but the last year their relationship has gone to a very very problematic stage i mean only about a week ago american officials warned their own citizens about traveling to turkey and taking did exactly the same to our so many issues. like this kind of big problematic case of results at all as well as the if that's creating a lot of impediments for a court the other relationship between these two nato allies you know jonathan it's really interesting is that syria's kind of a backdrop. overlooking the crisis in turkish american relations this is these are supposed to be nato allies here you have you have other nato countries that are quite nervous we have to point out to our viewers that turkey is the second largest military in nato and they see there they say what are their allies infringing upon the sovereignty of another country and we have erred on actually wanting other nato countries to start joining in on his security efforts security

problems that he has created for himself the more he gave medals with the syrian situation the kurdish situation in syria the more it hurts him down the road just as we pointed out this is a very domestic issue as well it's not one in syria actually it's also in iraq go ahead jonathan. well no i mean i've seen is absolutely right i thought is analysis of turkish foreign policy in the contradictions was spot on i mean the problem is that there's no reason why there should be a conflict even in turkey itself yeah there was a peace process for two years and one was talking to a larger line on the leadership people and they were making progress and then he just threw it out of the window because he wanted to present himself to the turkish domestic electorate as strong or stronger tarion man who wasn't giving in because at that point he was trying to win a referendum on a new executive powerful presidency so it was electorally. modified

moderated. negotiated and he just couldn't just poured it on the floor the courage and just poured but now he's got to continue in syria because he's convinced that the s.d.f. in a corner to northeast syria is somehow beholden to the p.k. k. which is no longer true yeah you know mohamed how much you know we talked to you started out with your first comments about the first year of the presidency your trump isn't here in the middle east i mean how much of american foreign policy is actually driven by some kind of vision that president trump has which i doubt to be honest with you or how is it really coming out of tel aviv in riyadh because it seems that you know trump has really cozy. tel aviv in riyadh in his presidency in a very simplistic and i think dangerous way but how much is he being pushed by those two countries go ahead mahmoud. what i think there are two shifts of war taken into consideration in the position of the administration one trump was always

critical of the obama administration policy toward syria he said that he was not effective and he was not kind of put help in the syrians and now we're looking at the situation where basically it is no clear sort all. in the midst of all this chaos shift number two is an overt and exaggerated over on counter terrorism in the international relations of the unite of the united states with the middle east and i think what we saw in the summit was too much investment in this. to the extent that now it has overshadowed the complexity of the whole syrian crisis and all the chaos and there's also another problem now i think. between eighteen among. trying to simply fall

who to blame which country or british government is responsible for the escalation in syria and then i think the blame goes around starting from the u.s. and some really not of powers who thought the money in new power inside syria and in the region and guess what the all of this exaggerated investment income and that there are a lot of them is now bringing in to the realization that it is still a more complex conflict then we're back in two thousand and twelve you know i've seen one of the interesting things is the more countries like saudi arabia and israel blame iran for the region's woes you know that just gets more and more influential because it doesn't make these geopolitical blunders that these other characters do in the region here i mean iraq was a catastrophe what's happening in yemen is

a catastrophe syria is holding its own here and you know always looking to blame iran and iran are by almost doing nothing comes out on top don't you think they should learn something from that go ahead. yes i mean certainly when you do look at what has been happening in the region over the last certainly. fifteen years since the invasion of iraq by the united states a lot of things that has happened in the region somehow ended up. benefiting iranian position within the middle east the invasion of iraq kind of. the rise of isis and so on and of course it is not only about the iranian policy it is also about kind of miscalculations and wrong policies of the ukrainian primarily here we're talking about saudi arabia but the situation is changing a little bit now we have a president in the white house who has

a very kind of narrow iran centric kind of understanding of the region according to his kind of naive perspective all the problems in the middle east all the instabilities in the middle east all of the sudden can be resolved if he could confront iran and the best way he thinks that he could confront iran is to kind of undermine this historic deal and now increasingly there is more evidence to suggest that maybe within the next three or four months we going to see the end of this very important security deal and if that happens it can create some serious new problems for for the region so iran should not take account of its recent victories in the region for granted because the situation is changing the corridors of power in washington is certainly in favor of saudi arabia is all to the

point i'm not even sure if mr trump is acting on behalf of american interests or the interests of israel and saudi arabia or their region because if you do look at his policies he's effectively undermining their account interest or even worse than . interests in the region in all. of the foreign policy discourse of both israel and saudi arabia let me go to jonathan i would add on to that promote we just heard from. and also splintering nato and the european union over the in randi oh ok because the united states look at nikki haley you know in that vast hall she's all alone or virtually all alone and all of these issues here and you know i was highly critical of obama's foreign policy the only thing that he did in his foreign policy that i agreed with was the iran deal i think it made pragmatic sense ok and now we have this reversal here john of the one last minute here i mean. from what we did i mean is it really just all about iran and preparing some kind of conflict

with the ram because you know all the pieces on the board kind of point in that direction go ahead. well no that is certainly true and what i said was right again i mean israel has always wanted the u.s. to change the regime in tehran they hoped they would do that fifteen years ago they thought iraq was going to me they were pushing for iran and they were caught and off i was being told we'll move to on iran later after we've done iraq and that it's still now the policy of the trump administration of course it's a complete diversion the real problem in the middle east as it has been for fifty years is the israeli palestinian issue but of course it. in the interests of netanyahu in the right wing in israel to try and minimize the palestinian things or no no iran is much bigger threat and its much bigger issue it's trying to take over the whole region and so on and unfortunately the u.s. so many people long before the trumpet ministration of fallen for that ploy they certainly are all right gentlemen that's all the time we have but it's very fascinating discussion and i'm unfortunately i'm sure we'll be talking about syria

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a de facto turkish military operation has begun across its border now this is been corroborated by the syrian kurds the white people who say that since those day night some seventy shells have been fired by the turkish military on to their villages now it's one of the only a statement by the turkish president and the one in which he said that the united states has admitted to establishing a terrorist army on the turkish syrian border any chord on the united states to deal with that terror at its infrastructure and these comments by the turkish president so infuriated could see living in the afan region that earlier they took to the streets also they were protesting against what you see happening slowly on the ground which is turkish tanks needing to literally this is what citizens of africa have to say. right now our freedom will be the ones graveyard today hundreds of thousands are protesting to tell him that the people of our friend will never leave their land. the international community should send

a message to turkey telling them to stop have bought the white b.g. and so we can depend on what sells. well this comes after the statement that the coalition forces were working closely with the syrian democratic forces to establish and train a new syrian border security force but what we've seen happening is the american administration backpedaling now on plans to establish such a border force essentially after it created such a huge and furious backlash from america's close ally turkey the u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson has said that the entire issue has been mis portrayed and misdescribed the u.s. state department has this to say is he saying that when the pentagon says we're going to try to commit forces because the people that took that.