as an elimination of terrorist leaders anyway the geneva negotiations notes nothing in order to please other parties that happens with other negotiations too and that's where such a comes in but we should expect too much maybe some expect the situation in syria will be resolved right after a declaration when announcements in sochi but we know how politics works these negotiations are just a stage for. the us treasury has released a declassified list of russian individuals as part of a sanction flitton or signed by donald trump in august the so-called a kremlin list includes the names of some two hundred top officials and business leaders although they're not actually being targeted with new restrictions. joins me live with the details now in the air so what's the reaction been from moscow. nicky hi well for now the russian government won't do anything about what's been

dubbed the kremlin list that is how the russian president for now made up his mind about the u.s. treasury document and in his first reaction to this list mr putin said that american officials weren't doing us russia any favors with it. shows muscle to get used to union human i don't understand the logic behind this move but it's definitely a hostile one and further complicates u.s. russian relations and our security services share intelligence that helps prevent terrorist attacks do they need this or not will we start working together or not we can do without that but i think it's in everyone's interests it would be absurd to reduce our relations to zero so i should mention that when you get a. lot of our potent also say that u.s. officials were basically putting the end tire russian population on that. just in

a sense that there you can find many of the country's richest entrepreneurs that are also job creators here in this country once again what the u.s. treasury came up with was a list of the russian politicians in fact there were one hundred fourteen including the prime minister dmitry medvedev and the minister of foreign affairs surrogate plus there were also almost a hundred top businessmen from russia america says that being included in this list doesn't necessarily mean any kind of punishment this year but the list is also a result of the so-called countering america's adversaries through sanctions ad how does that bind together that is a good question now putin's press secretary dmitri peskov who also found his name on the list said that for now this list doesn't mean anything while other russian high ranking politicians from the document perhaps decided to have

a little laugh for instance the deputy prime minister arkady dvorkovich said that basically the u.s. treasury published a book that may be called who's who in russian politics while another senator said that they just basically shared a kremlin phone book with everyone. ok thanks on this day thousands not easily but trying to reporting from central moscow that well let the list includes the names of ninety six russian businessmen who happened to be exactly the same ninety six billionaires on forbes that russian rich list and the names of top politicians also much they may just start and care fishel is page of the kremlin's website one of thirty trying to get to the bottom of this now and bring in our guest mark elements director of the crisis research to insist institute in oxford thank you for joining us live on the program mr owens now we're being told it's not about sanctions so what do you think is the logic behind such a broad list. well i suppose it's

a reflection of the discontent and the early nation of the us political elite from russia and from what they feared would be transfer russia policy in a sense there are two aspects to this the majority of the u.s. congress and if you like the majority of the permanent diplomats and so on were afraid that doll terms campaign rhetoric that he was going to improve relations with russia would see him concede what they think of as key geopolitical points whether over syria over ukraine and so on so they would be campaigning on the idea that he was elected because of his russian influence in the world of the twitter sphere and so on and then also that this implies particular you mentioned the rich list as it were of russians that there's some kind of sleazy financial aspects which are implied but never actually spelled out because this list is as we are told constantly not necessarily as to people to be sanctioned but it is a list of people who are in a sense perhaps to be. traduced or intimidated by being put on such

a public display and i think it may be very counterproductive because if i was being macchiavelli and i wanted to split the russian elite i wouldn't want the whole russian elite together in the same to make them be more cohesive yeah we don't closer inspection it seems that this list mostly seems to have been copied and pasted from russian government websites and the forbes yeah. they think that undermines it undermines its credibility i mean it could been put together within five minutes also. well you know if it's a lot of so-called intelligence is gathered from newspapers and news media sources but as we saw for instance with tony blair's dossier on iraq quite often it's plagiarized from rather simple the not particular sophisticated sources as would seem to be in this case and so it's really a public relations exercise and it's a public relations exercise primally with the american public to keep going the theme of trump because. in some way he's

a kind of cat supporter of president putin in russia but of course in real the real world it is not particularly helpful to have a situation where the bad relations between russia and the united states are compounded by a relentless alienation of pretty well anybody who's of influence people will see russia is being presented in a very negative light by the u.s. establishment and president putin reacted to the lead steadier today we went to him live. he said that for now russia will refrain from council measures about something that surprises you. were. part of this is a year that there are particular russian businessmen have assets abroad and also business link support so there's an attempt to destabilize the capacity of russia to for instance engage in trade to engage in finance to get loans for investment and so on so it would not necessarily be helpful for russia to so-called retaliate because it would simply perhaps play into the hands of those who want to trade an

economic war but certainly one of the problems for the russian economy potentially from this sort of list is that third countries britain germany france and so on may find that their banks and businesses fear getting involved with the russian businessmen and named because at some point i was to say with iran you would have secondary sanctions on yourself if you were to be doing business with somebody the united states decides to sanction so this is in a sense a theme of economic warfare that is going on the war has not been deterred by publicly sanctioning people but by naming them as potential targets of sanctions these business of the businesses could perhaps find that it would be difficult for them to deal with other countries third country i think a mark on the director of the crisis research institute in oxford thank you for your time. and money is coming up for you after this short break to stay with us.

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apart. just to look for common ground the. welcome back taking you back to our top story now the pentagon has apparently instructed the inspector general for afghanistan a watchdog overseeing the situation in the country to keep quiet over how much afghan territory is in the hands of the taliban amid a string of violence that has shaken the country recently was discussed this further let's now bring in our guest mohammed amin karim the his best islamic parties chief negotiator for peace i welcome to the program sir now what do you make of this latest decision by the pentagon not to disclose information on how much afghan territory is being held by the taliban. as you know we are facing very strong apart from the insurgency.

specially in the kabul city the. military strategy from the very beginning through the liver was a failure. has been moved forward to goods this goods since sixty years. the only thing is remaining is the. syrian. peace negotiation. measures and that's the only really destroyed to choose that has been declared it august is that this is still clearly or because it's just to try to prevent the feel of the big cities and the subjects. here tell us more about how the situation on the ground in afghanistan has changed since the president trying announced his new strategy last summer have there been any improvements at all. in the military ground there is

absolutely not a positive step or has been taken by the this new strategy i think we could even call it the new strategy is just a defensive position in order to avoid the fall of the city of hundred thought about for the afghan people the station has become worse and worse every day and every day in kabul city we are facing it in the hundreds of people around the country and especially in the big cities so if no change at all if washington did decide to pull out of afghanistan do you think the country's government and security forces i would stand any chance in the fight against the taliban and i so . i think the problem is coming from the envision of this country by the. mid to late the countries and now we are facing

a situation of kills the real solution would be peace negotiation and reasonable timetable in order to be clear that if the taliban are ready to stop negotiation with the afghan government the u.c. is ready to leave this country told about also should accept this because. of saying that if they. are ready to leave afghanistan to the service members by people to really to start a peace negotiation this is the only solution for this country and for the region. at present trying has said washington quoting doesn't want to talk with the taliban now is he implying that the u.s. was previously prepared to come to the negotiating table and if so what's changed. we should hear from the u.s. say that they are supporting an afghan led. negotiation and that they are ready to leave the other side if afghans together. to leave the country i think of

such a. clear result of the give you to the taliban would be ready to go. after government should be sure. to stop. in karim has the islamic party chief negotiator for peace thank you for your time sir. but i'll be no were russian flags flying at either the two thousand and eighteen winter olympics or paralympics in south korea that's after the international paralympic committee upheld its ban on team russia though it is allowing clean athletes to compete as neutrals two months ago a similar decision was taken by the international olympic committee despite all eyes on russia when it comes to doping allegations are surfacing elsewhere in the world. in the run up to next month's winter games the issue of doping has taken the main stage once again seeing the majority of russian athletes banned and those

eligible to participate forced to compete under a neutral flag and frankly at this point when you hear doping you think russia but is the problem really reserves or just the one country i'm afraid the answer is over the counter no an investigation conducted by a group of international researchers at two separate sporting events back in two thousand and eleven produced a rather shocking conclusion where more than two thousand and the athletes were surveyed anonymously to encourage honest answers doping abusers remarkably widespread among elite athletes and remains largely unchecked despite convent logical testing that report revealed that the thirteenth athletics world championships in south korea over forty percent of those competing and made it to doping in the past year and almost sixty percent at the pan arab games in doha whereas was only came back with point five percent of test as positive in south korea and three point six percent at the pan arab games needless to say that is a massive discrepancy and the other surprising thing is that the research was

actually funded by wada and yet no one heard a peep out of them about the results which they've known about for years we would note that there was a delay of nearly six years between the completion of the data collection and the publication of this paper due to negotiations between wada and i double a f and subsequently between i w f and the authors regarding the authority to publish the results now goes on to say that neither of the organizations impose restrictions on the writing of the report although i'm not sure how a six year delay isn't considered a restriction the president of germany's athletics federation for one was infuriated by the hold up banning that publication has impaired the possibility of taking important measures in the anti doping complain much of this is more than annoying you could also call it the scandal and guess what the report was actually released months ago but i'd bet good money that you haven't heard a thing about it because for some or. it wasn't made into nonstop breaking news no probes were conducted and no bands were seen this was a study which of course would raise alarms with the world anti-doping agency

instead of pursuing it and doing further tests to determine the accuracy to try to verify or disprove the results of that study they simply blocked the publication so in my mind it's an example of the lack of transparency and the bias and the efforts to censor. studies and news that is problematic from their standpoint well we managed to speak to the authors self that reports they told us that was that indicates a doping i think demick. at international track say we asked or made forty six percent and and fifty seven per cent of our fleet these international track meets were doping much harder than we expect our quarterly results newspaper i would call it africa.

i mean when you're when you were talking there house of athletes said an international track meet are asked to major to be doing some kind of deal. i think that's just problem for athletics and that is certainly a problem how big it is again i go back to my previous on without having that i could prevent estimation we don't know but even if we settle for a lower figure that just for the sake of argument i'm not saying this is the actual thing but for the sake of argument if it's some percent. it's also important read the storm percent happen if ten percent of all the medal winners is the program had them all and based on this what we probably is is quite high the concerns over. is we don't know much about the athletes' compliance.

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