thirteen ok. left ok let me jump in here go to dan before we go to the break here i mean but at the same time you know you know outside powers that's why it's a proxy civil war because this is from the outside ok i mean bringing democracy to syria is the last thing this is all been about ok it's been arming jihad is to overthrow a legitimate government that it had done before we go to the break yeah i agree with what you say and i just want to comment on what sami was saying there is friction between between the u.s. and turkey and i would say that predates the coup attempt actually in fact really it goes back to the downing of the russian plane i would read seen obviously correctly as a low point in russian turkish relations but i see that really as a last dance let me jump in here to try and find a job we're going to go to a short break and say are you going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on turkey

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remind you we're discussing turkey and syria. ok let me go back to in oxford i hate going to hard breaks like that but it happens ok so i'm going to go let you finish your point with the proviso here i'm really glad we went to this point in talking about u.s. turkey relations because in the foreign policy blob's fear in washington the great swamp of america i mean there's plenty of people that are writing off turkey completely saying even we don't need them in nato i mean they're in this is in the national security council this is in. the state department defense department i mean there is a raging debate going on in the intelligence community as well is how important they want because this is what it gets down to the it's who's calling who's bluff and i hate that ok because everybody's got arms ok what is going on in turkey u.s.

relations this is what's really key here dan please keep going. here so after the downing of the russian jet turkey was hoping that this would force somehow the u.s. to actually come good on what they had seen as the u.s. promises to make to make this regime change happen turkey itself had allowed itself to be the spearhead of this western imperial regime change policy in syria and they seem to be doing so with very little actual help from from from the west in doing so so we really wanted to force the u.s. to put the cards on the table that help wasn't forthcoming so at that point i thought ok they're not serious let we're going to have to basically do something else some kind of deal or think again and it's interesting and no coincidence i think the month before the coup attempt was when there's the famous phone call between putin another one and and one began to make noises about perhaps outside has some sort of longer future than. relations began to improve that was when the coup attempt happened so the us is very worried it is bluffing that it can do

without turkey and nato is very worried about losing and losing turkey turkey is very angry at us or have been used and abused for its regime change project but i think turkey is perhaps walking into fall into a trap here walked into a trap because the same time as i don't think the us is particularly that troubled by what's happening in syria right now if one is happy to see turkish turkey we can because it was an operation all of branch i think it will be a better name because turkey is really beating itself here is weakening itself as the same time as weakening. the kurds and it's really once again helping to facilitate u.s. strategy no benefit to us so you know it's sammy you know i talk about that because you know i keep reading the foreign policy blah blah you know that turkey has to choose between moscow and washington i don't i don't buy that at all as a matter of fact because nato has no useful value whatsoever turkey is coming into

its own now it may be walking into a trap but it's coming into its own as a regional player dealing with other countries and we we had this consolation when we have baghdad damascus beirut. all of them are on the same page it doesn't happen very often in and turkey is getting into the parlay here i mean this is this is something that i think is really interesting not i but i worry about turkey because i really did like you know the no problems foreign policy well it has a lot of problems right now but it's this kind of a major paradigm shift sami in the region with what's going on with turkey. it's possible i think it all depends on whether the united states is going to dig its heels and. other areas where there are u.s. troops patrolling the streets alongside the i.p.g.

forces now this is where the main conflict is between turkey and the united states i do not think turkey will retreat on that question and the united states is. in a sense in a lose lose situation i slightly different from down there that the united states is losing in iraq it is losing in syria and they are in their fix because they either send more troops which they are out of loath to do but because they would like to rely on proxy forces often out of their day back those in afghanistan and iraq they started using proxy forces whether in libya syria iraq and so on and in syria they found a golden opportunity with about forty thousand. fighters whom the general of the special forces of the united states general raymond thomas raymond. thomas

he himself called them a proxy force yeah but if ted is going to go all out to prevent the emergence of such a kurdish enclave backed by the then you are looking seriously contradiction then you are looking seriously contradiction between the united states and territory and i think ultimately it's the united states which will retreat on the one otherwise they will lose their yeah but they tend to take everybody down with them before they leave let me go to you i mean how important is all of this to the turkish president because he's invested a lot in syria and he's gotten very little in return. i think dan is spot on he was egged on by the us in the us basically folded and the what is the political review repercussions for the president everyone if he doesn't get what he wants go ahead actually years and now you know after a year we have

a very important elections in turkey a presidency and this is the first time in two thousand and nineteen and then the before that i think to turkey try to finish or wrap up the syrian issue with some games you know in the beginning we started with the united states and the european allies and then they left us with russia and iran in the region now after two thousand and fifteen turkey started a new city on his own sometimes with the help of russia and iran in syria and he surely we have basically three you know iraq hates schildt and then it leap and then this olive branch operations these are really important operations in for turkey and i think the turkish people is support think is kind of operations then after that the turn will come to member i think this is the man beach is the most

crucial area between turkey and united states because an american. army is there if turkey goes further to membership maybe it might be a problem for turkey this is i think the most crucial think up to now but for us all a branch operation i think no problem with united states you know it's best not interfere this operation but if turkey goes further to man bitch it will be problematic for the region and maybe a turkey and you know. there will be a head to head in that area. up to up to now resident. support in turkey you know that's why i keep saying who is bluffing whom here again also the again the the one can surmise and in the end if you look at the long.

bad blood between iran in the united states as one of the reasons why the united states wants to keep a footprint there it really is quite amazing the doing the bidding of riyadh in tel aviv all the time because there is now absolutely no strategic interest of the united states or the anyone in the european union about syria and i think that. it's always misguided the more they listen to riyadh in detail of the the opposite happens iran's influence continues to expand when are they going to learn go ahead dan here that's true iran has in some ways benefited from the disasters wreaked on the middle east by the u.s. in the last few decades but i would completely disagree that europe and the u.s. have no interest in containing iran or destroying syria the u.s. certainly does and the west in general and especially britain and the usa do are very concerned as i said. to destroy any independent or potentially independent

force in the global south of. israel and saudi arabia the. bulldogs if you like of western power in the middle east the watchdogs keeping that area basically under the domination of the united states and britain so. i don't i don't buy into this idea of saying oh the u.s. is doing the bidding of tel aviv in. the part of the same the same program of maintaining middle east under western domination maintaining the global oil production and the levels that they want to. price they want it being sold and the currency that they want and the dollar and so on i don't see these ok. ok but for this and i can let me go to sammy i think you have bring a very interesting point stan. and i don't necessarily disagree with them. but sammy you know going back to what i said earlier if we could just start and it's

not arbitrary two thousand and three and go all the way up to the present every single strategic initiative the united states and its allies have initiated in the middle east have failed and there's been only blowback ok i mean this ridiculous policy that tillerson announced that anyone the sends aid to syria will face sanctions i mean that that is you know what they want to do is they just want to keep and i'm now i'm good i would agree with dan here is this to keep every single player weak and broken ok and and that's going to backfire is well ok because the region is going to stay not necessarily outside players they don't they don't always say they usually leave go ahead sami i think the main reason for it they had a fairly right to point to their failure is that there is enormous opposition to their presence in the region if we talk about the middle east and all the way to libya and so on there is popular opposition to their presence and there is this

fundamental contradiction between the united states aims of trying to control the region for its own interests and interests of the peoples of the region and there is no way this contradiction can be resolved unless the united states withdraws from the area admits defeat and gets out this is unlikely to happen so therefore we have this continuous conflict of us imperialism trying to dominate to region and the peoples of the region insisting on their independence and they are mad against iran because iran regardless of what you what we think of its. tico system is a very independent country from us. this very hate and i down there and they have been very all that they are to question sami that's iran's greatest sin its sovereignty gentlemen we've run out of time many thanks to my guests in london

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as one of the biggest police corruption scandals in the u.s. and we report. on what triggered the case and some of the mystery surrounding it. german intelligence that the children of islamic state could be recruited to carry out terror attacks in the country describing them as living time bombs we hear expert opinion on the possible threat to children that are trained to kill direct agenda on the agenda is to kill as many people as possible victims of crimes. as a world we've got a duty of care towards the. public and professional backlash as a controversial criminal case against a doctor patient died outcry a. day

here in moscow and you're watching altie international line with me. welcome to the program one of america's biggest police corruption scandals ruffling in the city of baltimore officers from an elite police unit tasked with reducing crime seem to have actually been adding to it they're on trial accused of turning the law on its head they came at me like a gang or something i remember one of the officers saying i looked like someone who . needed to be robbed everybody's life is destroyed because of this my kids are afraid to go in the house the so called gun trace task force is made up of plainclothes officers and has been trying to tackle the city's increasing murder rate however the unit has been dissolved and officers arrested with charges against eight of them ranging from drug trafficking to planting fake evidence.

artie's americana reports on what triggered this case and how the police units crimes were exposed. well it all started with an investigation into drug trafficking in new jersey then as the case unraveled federal authorities found out that the baltimore police department was also involved mostly its elite gun traced task force unit months of recordings recovered from a device planted in a police cruiser repeat that officers were involved in drug trafficking robbery falsifying reports and planting fake evidence in one case a high speed car chase resulted in a crash which the officers tried to cover up one of the indicted ex detectives involved actually broke down in tears in court it was a really bad accident none of us stopped to render aid to see if anyone was hurt we were foolish although i was doing so much wrong it got to a certain point where too much was too much altogether six officers have already pleaded guilty and two are still being tried but there are indications there's more

to the story than just one rogue police unit court records show that the city paid over half a million dollars to settle claims of misconduct and falsifying reports involving the very same officers and dating back as far as twenty fourteen so why did the author choose to sweep it all under the rug we're kind of used to this those offices of very well known industries for door without that door and this is. where it came up it's been it's probably been plenty of complaints you can't go an extra help because you're afraid that this particular might just do some so you might pencil and comma when we see them coming we go to opposite direction if we can and if we can't we deal with this circumstance this has been corruption for a long time you know just because this is one as in a way as though they decide to you know come forward or you know they got caught for what they've done is stops that particular but at the same time as not going to

stop the corruption has to be done to stop the corruption from these criminals are cops and the cops the criminals then there's the unsolved murder of detective shawn souter that took place in. november last year souter wasn't part of the country's taskforce but worked with some of the officers were now under indictment and the day before he was set to testify in the corruption probe he was shot in the head with his own weapon while on duty and another unfortunate twist which some might find suspicious a patrol car transporting the dying officer to an asp it all got into an accident there's no suspect in the murder so far and no eyewitnesses except one unnamed partner and when the police commissioner tried to redirect the investigation to the f.b.i. the agency refused saying that the case had nothing to do with the corruption probe i'm growing increasingly uncomfortable that my home aside the directives do not know all of the facts known to the f.b.i. or the u.s. attorney's office that good if revealed to us assist in furthering this murder investigation in the wake of the scandal baltimore police have launched an overhaul

including a new commissioner vowing to rein in city violence but investigators still seem to have a very complicated plot to unravel samir khan r t reporting from baltimore. jeremy's domestic intelligence chief is warning that children all the islamic state fighters in the country are living time bombs and said they could be recruited for terror plots in germany we have to consider that these children could be living time bombs there is a danger that these children come back brainwashed with a mission to carry out attacks islamic state uses headhunters who scour the internet for children that can be approached and tries to radicalize these children were recruit these children for terrorist attacks. the domestic intel chief also said germany should review laws restricting surveillance of minors under the age of fourteen in recent years the country has faced several cases when minors were planning terror attacks for example back in twenty sixteen a twelve year old boy tried but failed to blow up

a christmas market in the west of the country there are also concerns that children back from syria and iraq could be targets for further radicalization according to government data about three hundred people who left germany to join eisel have now returned to the country the potential threat posed by ice or children is also a concern shared by a top counterterrorism officer in the u.k. some terror groups are training children to commit atrocities we need to not just understand the risk the mother poses but the risk that any child poses as well look at them an accused brachis breezes and the maybe you're arrested we discussed this with stephen moore is from the english democrats party and how much a freak the chief executive of the ramadan foundation. we always have this like little cuddly thing of children where they can do no wrong because bear in mind these are children that are trained to kill they are not just good in a mock in

a street bin antisocial these of a direct agenda and that agenda is to kill as many people as possible so we do have to clamp down on this our security services and police are doing a tremendous amount of work to a dentist five who those children now these are children they didn't make the choice. to go and live in syria it was their parents and we should not punish the children for the actions of the crimes of the parents i'm quite clear in terms of human rights universal declaration of human rights that we should welcome them back and help them rebuild their lives where we can help them but we should help them over there we don't have to bring them here what you've got a you got to do want people to bring them over here let them walk free while the been assessed well know what's the walking through it but we don't live in the law of the jungle they are british citizens are we as a government as a society and as a country have a duty of care towards them children in the u.k.

anybody below the age of eighteen is actually classed as a child a fourteen fifteen sixteen year old or seventeen year old can just go around the streets with a knife. just like anybody else you know so they are as big a threat is anybody you know you cannot just say just because they were under the age of eighteen this can go into the age of forty that they're no longer a threat because they are thin themselves are victims of isis and their crimes have been returned to do you k. i'm hoping that they'll get psychological help for the trauma that they've seen and the terrorism and oppression that they've witnessed whilst living in syria if it turns out that they are involved in extremism and they are involved in terrorism then we need to do as much work as possible to develop a closed them and to protect them protect themselves from such an evil ideology. russia's medical community has been outraged by a criminal case brought against a moscow hematology she's accused of medical malpractise that allegedly led to the

patient's death but many doctors and legal analysts claim the case is significantly flawed. has the details it was dr you learn them if you had a nose job to come to this clinic every day and work to save people's lives she was the mastermind behind this brand new unit which was meant to become the most advanced center for bone marrow transplants in moscow the plan was to open it in january but instead a court ruled that she must go to jail this is mr arenas office she has been gone for two weeks already we miss her she had a lot of plans and there are simon's for the next week on her desk it all goes back to a tragedy that happened almost five years ago she was treating a patient with leukemia and that required a morning by obscene a routine procedure for a doctor we suited up it all went fine and the patient went off to work by evening

he was suffering severe stomach pains and an ambulance took him to a private hospital then he underwent surgery and in two days passed away if a patient dies he is or her relatives always want to get justice when someone's life is taken due to somebody else i think that some punishment must follow but what caused the person's death the biopsy the surgery or something else it took the investigators and the court for years to determine that for an hour the verdict is that this office will remain empty for two years. but some of russia's top hematology called the ruling nonsense while dr masood innes callie's and former patients were simply stunned now i feel that future is being taken away from the person who saved my life and lives of many others that's unfair i am uganda michoud and.