powers you could actually see improvement in the cooperation and that may build some trust back into the relationship now during the john kerry years so that this approach of working on some issues while clashing over others will actually lead to a comprehensive amending of the russian u.s. relationship but that hasn't materialized why doesn't tillerson continue working this line. well there has been you know a sea change and nobody saw this exactly coming but you know obviously there are dead there difference here is on the interpretation but most americans believe that there was russian interference in the elections so and they see that as an attack on american values so during the kerry years and even before that during the clinton years there was more of a willingness to in their mind reset relations after they had.

deteriorated on one issue or the other host ukraine crisis and certainly. particularly now with with still the investigations on what happened in the elections going on it's very hard for tillerson or any or trump as we've discussed to make the case to the american public that we should have better relations now despite the hostility if they americans and the russians so i say why when it came to fighting isis and now the terrorist state is all but defeated i mean should we expect the u.s. to distance itself from problems like syria and play out well. i would say under the troubled ministration there is been more disengagement. although there are as efforts now in the state department elsewhere to begin

thinking about reconstruction in syria i would say in my own mind i think you know both russia and the u.s. have big interests and share big interests. in syria i mean both of us don't want to see more instability or terrorism but there is a huge disagreement on tactics you know u.s. is not. making it a condition anymore that assad leaves office but nevertheless there's still strong anti a sawed sentiment all right matthew we're going to take a short break right now and when we're back we'll continue talking with dr. i have that iran analyst and a former national intelligence counselor and we'll talk more about the challenges they today's world order facing stay with us.

the memo his come and gone but this controversy is far from over the political bias of the deep state has been revealed and the illegal activities exposed who if anyone will be held responsible. what politicians do. put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president and you. want to be preached. to go on to the

press that's what before three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the water. and we're back with dr matthew barra's a cia veteran analyst and a former national intelligence council are discussing u.s. russian spat and other issues causing global concern and i think turkey a nato member who is currently attacking the syrian kurds who are here u.s. allies is washington going to do anything about this or are they going to throw the kurds too who are lying on it under the bus i think. washing it is very concerned about turkey. where turkey is heading.

so yes there are efforts to to or to warn turkey against its attacks but. you know it is a nato member when there is an effort not to alienate for further turkey there's been you know tense relations between us and turkey for some time so i think the effort is to handle this in a very low key manner out of the public eye does do us didn't have enough leverage to stop turkey anyway i don't think we have the leverage you know there's. i mean in the past turkey has taken unilateral actions that have highly displeased the washington. turkey believe this is very much

a threat and you know in the case of any country that believes that they face an existential threat from some sources it's very hard to to deter it from carrying out actions to eliminate that threat. now for decades you've been analyzing and predicting crisis for the u.s. government how do you expect the turkish intervention to unfold and what consequences will it have well hopefully turkey doesn't mean that it's warning the us but does not. tries to avoid hitting certainly us first and now. and also. draws backwards on here its actual. actions against the kurds.

you know as i say i think this is a difficult negotiation but i don't think turkey wants to completely alienate the us. pentagon has recently revealed a new us to fast track which sas that interstate strategic competition with russia and china is the number one concern for the u.s. is terrorism no longer the biggest threat to america it isn't i mean this is a dramatic switch it on terrorism is still a big threat and you know any u.s. president does not want to see a repeat of the nine eleven episode so we have been hardening our borders. and we continue. in the middle east and elsewhere cooperated with countries who are fighting terrorism and following also. the spread of

extreme extremism in the u.s. or elsewhere to try to date and to any terrorist attacks but increasingly you know u.s. is foreign policy elite believes that we're falling behind china. on technology certain technologies or that they're moving ahead on certain technologies. and they actually despite having lots of problems with how foreign policy is executed under president trump actually the foreign policy elite both republican and democrat would agree with those statements in the national defense strategy. to us and in fact abandoning the war on terror are returning to a cold war type of thinking and if so why i wouldn't say it's abandoning totally as i talked earlier but i do think that it does worry that.

it's margin i mean the u.s. believes if you go back to the past twenty years you know there was a period in the ninety's when the u.s. believed it was the unit polar power so clearly above every other power in the world and able to take unilateral action what you've seen in the last decade or two is the fact u.s. seeing china particularly rise very quickly and there is a warri on the economic side you know china is six seven years away from becoming the biggest economic power in market value terms so that is the concern i think were approaching in an interesting way another spot nick moment. as you remember in the fifty's when the u.s.

worried it was falling behind the soviet union and technology development russia and china are cold reversion is power a cell want to shape the world under thera modelling the latest u.s. to fan strategy so to me it sounds that an american mindset there is to american world to you which is right and there is all the rest which are incorrect or adversary revisionist and need to be confronted how can the us exist in multiple reality with this type of uni polar mentality well that's that's a big difficulty and that's something that. i've been worried about for years because i think the u.s. is going to remain a great power in whatever sort of. world order we have but if it continues to play its cards you know like it did in the

ninety's believing it. was a unipolarity power and could do these things unilaterally then i think we could be in for a rough ride because i don't think it's just not china or russia but i don't think other powers want to see a you know polar world with the u.s. as the top power now in your book the future declassified you say that america has to take charge and direct the needed changes in the world what about all the countries of the world that aren't excited about the american direction i mean do you think they should be forced into following america's elite no i mean i think way to you earlier said about a poly centric world is correct and if you have a poly centric world then that means that the u.s. has to sit down with other powers. and players in the world and we have to to think

about how we can work together we do have an enormous of a number of and we've talked about some of these shared interests so the effort should be thinking about how do we cooperate in dealing with the shared interests. so and if sand you're talking about the u.s. adopting a sensible strategic policy and going through with it but if we try to look at it from a non american point of view we see that since iraq invasion in two thousand and three american foreign policy has been impulsive and quite chaotic and focused on its own interests rather than the common one and has contributed to the mess in the middle east rather than solving anything and after two decades of this how can the u.s. regain the trust of the international community and its leadership ability because i mean so far and i repeat from an outside point of view it's not been ticket well i completely understand you know your view on it and i think

many americans would also share your view that the invasion of iraq was a strategic blunder and disaster for the u.s. and they were very unhappy about and that's why they the popularity of george w. bush went down in his second term. but you know americans look on this is well we had good intentions. we were trying to deal with what we thought was a threat of weapons proliferation. and in afghanistan we are trying to rebuild the the country now that doesn't exist the good intentions doesn't excuse what it happened and the disrupt jund disarray that happened in the middle east but that is kind still how a lot of americans look on that the rest of the world is very focused on the

disastrous results the us public and elite tends to think more more about the intentions were. seeing those as good intentions almost a decade ago. you set summer security force a top threat now the pentagon has recently proposed writing a nuclear response to devastating cyber attack into the u.s. military doctrine what kind of a hostile action in cyber space what merits a nuclear attack well i think in the in the. pentagon's mind it would be to disable critical infrastructure so for example like the electric grid in the u.s. or the functioning of financial institutions in the u.s. . now whether they that would actually i'm not sure that even those

actions. would. they certainly don't justify in my mind a nuclear attack but i am not sure if they would actually trigger one. because i think you know most americans are very scared about what would happen after they did trade nuclear attack and that would be particularly against russia china or another nuclear power there would be retribution. on that optimistic note thank you very much. you were talking to the maurice and cia veteran analyst and former national intelligence counsellor about all the major challenges that put our hold order to test it for this edition of the next time.

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develop new ways to lie cheat and steal their fellow schemers here in washington d.c. i've also had themselves quite the busy weekend since the trumpet ministration unleashed the controversial and much talked about pfizer memo on friday written at the behest of the house intelligence committee chair republican governor knew me as the memo claims the f.b.i. and the justice department abuse their surveillance authority of trump's twenty sixteen presidential campaign you see apparently they used the illustrious and controversial steel dossier to secure a surveillance warrant from the pfizer court against the trump campaign's carter page but actively chose not to disclose to the pi's a court that the dossier was paid for by democrats and republicans as opposition opposition research against donald trump and had not been legitimately verified or corroborated. since the unredacted memo drop we've seen an incredible amount of

teeth gnashing in the sanctimonious hypocrisy by both members of the major political parties here in the states as well as current and former surveillance state icons all declaring that the memo and its release are an outright attack on our sacred law enforcement institutions namely the in jellicoe folks over at the federal bureau of investigation from john mccain tweeting that the latest attacks on the f.b.i. and the department of justice serve no american interest no parties no president only putin's to former f.b.i. director james comey standing up for his former colleagues declaring all should appreciate the f.b.i. speaking up i wish more of our leaders would but take heart american history shows that in the long run weasels and liars never hold the field so long as good people stand up not a lot of schools are streets named for joe mccarthy. you're right james weasels and liars never hold the field they just get f.b.i.

headquarters named after them. so what the fire is a memo out doing justin timberlake for the biggest bomb of the weekend let's let the eagle soar and start watching the hawks. because. it looks like. it's like. it gets to the bottom if you. like you know that i got. because. it was. this week so. welcome everyone to watch the tyrrell ben turner joining me today the great city of texas is the former euphoric strata due to youth vote strategist and spokesperson for the twenty sixteen from campaign author and dentist one salad lost to the third sal always a pleasure having you on great to be here so many have to sure poring over the memo

and all the chatter surrounding it as a as a as a young trump supporter what did you what did you take away from it what jumped out at you the most. well i mean it's everything we need if you've been following this story like many big supporters and for a couple of the campaign have you expected this to come out we knew there were abuses especially with the characters involved like mccabe rosenstein and others so it wasn't a surprise to me. i am glad it finally came out i'm glad that they put gabby at the front of it because i think he holds a lot of respect on both sides of the aisle when it comes to him really giving everything in equal opportunity under the law so i'm glad he's out there and talking about it and i think we have a long way to go on this like penn said and others there's a lot more memos to come out and this is only the tip of the iceberg most definitely most devil you know it's interesting keeping with our wonderful football metaphors the hypocrisy of football was being thrown all over washington this week

in the wake of the release what's what stuck out to you was the most egregious example i mean for me it was going to be democrats defending the f.b.i. as an institution that you know during the bush years they shredded i think justifiably for agents consistence kind of bending and abuse of our constitution the bill of rights that jumped out to me what else jumped out to you is the the wonderful hypocrisy football was thrown around. well i think it was keeping the truth from the american people i mean you look at what schiff and other democrats have done they first tried to fear tactic that this was going to release you know valuable information to our enemies and counterintelligence tactics which it did not it's not reveal any source is there anything and then now they're going into destroying people's careers like nunez and others who wanted this to be public so the so that's what has struck me the most is just their ability to. try to deceive the american people and be go after honorable people who create so i just trying to

to follow the trail on all this crap and that is and it's an interesting dynamic and i think especially when you look at the fires of course i mean you've had people sounding off about this for a long time journalist radley balko recently tweeted quote you know the pearl clutching over alleged misleading info on the page warrant application reminds me of gaffes over the no knock raid on man afford when the political class gets the tiniest taste of injustices inflicted on regular people daily they make themselves in the mendell of it's a great quote just how disconnected is the washington political elite and these guys on the hill who are voting for this kind of surveillance state tactics and then you know and then suddenly when it's this kind of brought to them it suddenly all my goodness was this exists i can't believe this yet all of us the civil libertarians and the a.c.l.u. and all that have been talking about this for years of these tactics. exactly and i think it's time we put it check on this i don't think any american would agree that

we need to get rid of this completely there definitely needs to be checks and i think you're definitely seen the hypocrisy going on with congress i mean if if everyone in congress doesn't know already that every single one of their e-mails as well as every every other american citizens e-mails are being looked at or can be looked at by the f.b.i. and that these type of you know political inclinations can happen when going after certain issues like with carter page you know something have to be done and it's a hypocrisy i mean we do have the democrat memo coming out so it will be interesting to see but i thought one thing that was interesting since we're talking about hawkers see is according to the latest numbers when the republican member was brought to the house members where they could come and read it before it was released to the public you had over two hundred think hundred twelve republicans read the memo with about fifty eight democrats you read it now the democrats and those four house members to come up and read and i think eighty nine or ninety republicans have read it and fifty seven democrats have so actually less democrats

have read the democrat memo and then read the republican memo this is the hypocrisy it's all about politics right now it's all about saving face i mean the d.n.c. is dead broke hillary clinton lost they have nobody to replace obama or bernie sanders right now and so democrats are kind of lost and and right now politics is getting the better of them when it comes to this important issue and that's one of the things i want to ask you about too you know as someone who you work for campaign in two thousand and sixteen how how are these controversies you know one after another whether legitimate or not you know how are they playing on trump supporters and you know have do you feel they're going to be a big factor i mean from the memo to everything else are they going to be a big factor come come the twenty eighteen midterms i mean it's a very we have a huge drop in the stock market the government hard on him because he's tired of success a lot of times verbally to the stock market so how is this playing out and when your pain. he has mentioned the stock market a lot he didn't mention it today at all if you notice that we're going to. we're

going to be very you know cincinnati he's stayed away from that but i mean if you look at the economy the economy is great all the signs are pointing towards great economic growth in the future for this country and i know donald trump has said a personal goal of reaching thirty thousand on the dow jones before his eight years are up so we'll see if he gets there but you know there need to be a correction the you know the market doesn't always go straight up all the time and we need a little correction and hopefully that's what happens in and with the great things donald trump has done like tax reform and reduction and regulation reform that will continue to see growth. but going forward to the twenty eighteen midterms i know you've asked me this many times on this show and i've yet to say that i'm worried you're seeing the polls bounce back for a publican's in the midterms the r n c is raking in a record amount in number one off election year and i think with the memo and more things that are going to come out before then and hopefully as well getting something done with immigration reform that's the kind of energy that needs to continue within the basin within donald trump supporters to get them to the polls

as they did in two thousand and sixteen so right now i am still not worried and i think these type of things only keep energizing the base and i have yet to come across any friends or other people that i've known that have disliked donald trump or like him have that support waiver and i've seen those never trumper they're coming around so you combine the twenty sixteen electorate with those never jumpers come in around him maybe stayed home or go to third party transfer over to donald trump you could see a big big turnout for republicans in twenty eighteen you know i want to ask you this is kind of a interesting thing outside of the trump political realm. after looking at pictures of the amount of best i could say kind of police state style security on the streets so many apples during the super bowl should we be rethinking our form the mess the policies i mean if we have to turn this i don't know if you've seen them but it's incredibly sheriffs drive had like soldiers you know if we have to turn our streets into a d.m.z. just to play a football game something's going wrong here we have to you know that's not just

security it seems. yes you want to be safe but you know if we're that worried that something bad is going to happen then not a mover like you know we need to step back and rethink this. i think it's a sign that we need to step back and rethink immigration like chain migration and other issues that donald trump is wanting to fix of course we don't like to see those images in the united states we're not a third world country we're not an issue a country that has to deal with an extremely high crime rates like others do but it is a concern i mean terrorism is a big concern for many people in this country and you know we've had a lot of recent attacks foiled that could have been worse and they and they where you've seen you know concerts being attacked like you're on the ground but there's a certain point those were when you look at like policies overseas if we're drone bombing you know weddings and you know obama the drums continue escalate of the drone war that's what creates more terror you know we can all agree on that so you

know at the end of the day shouldn't we be rethinking that foreign policy i mean from did wrong on kind of hey we need to pull back and do this less and you know in order to stop you know creating this kind of animosity we're going to come home and do it to us. could there be more analyzing of that and a half step back i would agree with you on that but donald trump also run on letting the military deal with the military knows how to to and that take out enemies and right now those are terrorists and so i think donald trump might be getting too much freedom and trust in those commanders and what they want to do because after all i mean that's what they do they go to war and they take out the enemy and so maybe pulling those reins back a little bit might be a good idea to reassess that but you know that's something we'll have to look at in the future and hopefully there can be bipartisan support for that look at us both agreeing on that topic i like that ok i like seeing that when that happens you know it's interest.