you know i'll give another for instance you know m s n b c it's owned by comcast you've not seen an honest report on net neutrality from m s n b c you haven't really seen it in any of the corporate media but especially not from them because they're owned by comcast a very anti net neutrality company you know went to apple what's going on all of the corporate media fox news c.n.n. m s m b c they're all funded in large part by ole oil and gas companies so of course they're not going to tell you what's going on in terms of water protests where do you hear about that you hear about that from the journalists that are on the ground you know we're on last run on that good man i'm not even like that on that point i do remember watching across the board and almost one of those rare moments of unity everybody said it to important period we didn't get anything more than that ok i learned more about net net neutrality listening to the jimmy door show it was an excellent program on net neutrality

learned an enormous amount thank you it was probably me let me go back to you one of the things that i find really disturbing in our political discourse is that everyone if you both someone there are traitor they act in the treasonous way and i criticize donald trump for that and i certainly i certainly criticize and this n.b.c. and c.n.n. for peddling the same thing go ahead rob. well one of the things that really used to infuriate me when i was a regular contributor to fox i've always been a democrat is i had people that would suddenly contact me on facebook or via twitter or they are an e-mail and say i can't believe you're a traitor and you're on fox and then i will would respond and say well how did you see me when i was on this week no i won't watch it well then how do you know what i'm saying or what i'm contributing and really as a result of fox i've met a lot of interesting conservative people that i never would have met who follow me on twitter or i've spoken to on sirius radio and i really enjoy the interaction

between us one of the things i think that we have to make the distinction about also is that there are news shows and there are opinion shows and the problem is is that the opinion shows have taken over and the news shows many of them are letting too many opinions creep in and it can be with a raised eyebrow or an inflection and that's wrong if you're supposed to be a reporter and you're giving the news and you're supposed to let the well you know or the reader and i mean i've been here before you could write that you know we were going to bring but i can't think particularly with this russia gate thing and it was a liberal corporate stations facts get in the way of spin for them and i think that's why you get so few facts i mean the memo the contents of the memo was a really discussed but it was about the timing of it will you know we have the memo we could read it we could talk about it now but would we'll have to wait for the democratic one i mean this is what i mean gentlemen we're going to go to

a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the media and the divide in american state with our two. the u.s. is losing into a summer on the climate denier as precluding them from the dissipating in this new economy number one. the effects of the climate change the weather catastrophes the

global you know migrants that are the result of it all this other problems are hurting the u.s. economy on the other side of the trade so you've got a double. welcome back across like we're all things considered i'm peter remind you we're discussing the media and the divide in america. let me go to you in new york here i i asked rob about using the word traitor and being considered treacherous or treasonous here it's very difficult to have a conversation with someone after you have called them that ok and this is what i find very dangerous i mean i can give you a real life example you know from the great saga called russia russia russia ok i

know all of the name calling of leaders around the world and then how do you sit down and talk ok and i think that this is what's really foolish about journalism when you get that hyperventilation you know you get the the adrenaline rush and you feel really great but then when you you know think about what you just said and you're supposed to be some kind of. play as some kind of public role adding value to the public sphere and then you call he's a traitor you're a traitor you know it doesn't get down to it's not disagreeing with someone now it is the are morally. unacceptable that's not what we should do in journalism go ahead who you. well i think that the problem is the word moderate has become a dirty word i think that the left has gone far to the left i think the right has gone far to the right even to the point where you have republican ton of republican infighting i mean we've got phrases like rhino sellout republicans anytime you know

they want to make a deal with the democrats so that's kind of the world that we're operating in right now but unfortunately it's being fuel i think more or less because the larger and the larger percentage of mainstream media sources although that's kind of a dirty word that we don't always like to use are so skewed against the president you know they've been trying to undermine president trump this entire time so that's why they're reporting right now it isn't really necessarily reporting it's one hundred percent spin the toll most like their news programs have become opinion programs and there isn't really a lot of you know let's say moderate or middle of the road news that exist anymore in america you know ron i saw trey gowdy on face the nation the country needs more people like that you may disagree with his politics but at least he listened to hard questions and he acknowledged. some give and take which was so it's so refreshing to see it was a really remarkable moment but you know what what i would get if we compare let's

say hannity and rachel maddow you know both of them have one thing in common one phrase our democracy is at stake our democracy is being threatened but for very very different ways again maybe i'm off on this here but it's the status quo the new status quo that's coming into being that they don't seem to understand here you know we have a f.b.i. that has gone rogue it's been gotten rogue for a long time it's nothing new it's just the curtain is revealed this isn't going on a long time to design and maybe remember j. edgar hoover i mean i do ok guys my child at least ok so i mean you know using this you know. our democracy is is under threat and i find that really hard to believe in and i thought it very disingenuous go ahead ron. i'm one hundred percent with you and fact whenever somebody says to me hey trump hijacked our democracy you know i don't like trump but my response is well we were kind of overdue to look into

a new one anyway so maybe that's a blessing in disguise and you hit the nail on the head with the status quo comment peter what nobody really wants to talk about in the corporate media is that the status quo is broken and ileo i would say to you you know i think on a lot of issues we probably don't see eye to eye but i think that the reason that moderate has become a quote unquote dirty word isn't necessarily because being moderate is right or wrong but because the status quo is so completely broken and people are disenfranchised as a response to that you know donald trump ran on this idea of some kind of outsider some kind of you know guy that was really going to disrupt the status quo you know and whether folks bought that or not you know i personally didn't i don't think that's what he is at all but that's what he ran on and that's what he sold and people bought into that because they're so tired of the status quo and neal liberalism ok well rob who has done it on some levels though continue go

ahead julio's that he has done it already or the one of them all we've seen is four keep going to go ahead go ahead go ahead to new york go ahead. ok i'm sorry i apologize if the delay i'm sorry nobody has done that on some levels and i think that that's the reason why there's been so much opposition to him you know it because we're going to finally i think and they're going to do this to themselves i think the elements that were anti trump are going to lead to you know uncovering a lot of the things that went on during the obama administration you know things that were conducted by hillary clinton things that were conducted by barack obama the justice department you know on the right a lynch eric holder all this information is going to come out as a result of their crybaby and being anti trust because he was ultimately seen as a threat because he's not really necessarily in bed with you have a lot of these people that were the well for you bring up you bring up

a really interesting point in let me go to rob right now because it's something that i've been mulling over quite a bit and then again it's this memo issue here is that you know it seems to me and i read the memo very carefully and i find it very believable ok i've been unfortunately i'm have to follow the story twenty four seven is forced on you it's and it's a fictitious story but what isn't fictitious is malfeasance at the highest level of the d.o.j. and the f.b.i. i mean i'm i'm convinced of that and i thought the memo was very well laid out and a very interesting narrative but rob the problem is is the mainstream media just denies it and i find that and this is what part of this cultural civil war that is brewing in the united states is that you're going to you do have a part of the population of the public that is aware of these what i think are reasonable facts to believe and then you have the corporatists here in the media denying it and i think that you can't it can't be that can't be elevated in the air

for very long because people are going to say well i mean flynn is going to go to jail matter for it's going to go to jail but comi lied clinton lied to the f.b.i. and they're not going to go to jail and at that point there's going to be a train wreck go ahead rob. first of all i think we're getting into way too much supposition which is a big problem right now in the media the media shouldn't be acting on either side be it right or left or whomever absolute judge jury and executioner absolutely and comparative ok and i just as an aside i'm sorry but i've been chuckling about this when i j. edgar hoover got mentioned i thought what kind of nickname would trump come up with him. but anyway. and i'm going to get a little to general here peter ok to ron and julio but one of the things that really bugs me and i feel that people who do what we do at least at the highest echelons and i'm talking about the highest paid people like

a mad cow or or sean hannity if i were king i would force them to get on the third avenue bus with me where it originates way down in the bowery and ride all the way up to one hundred twenty fifth street a couple of times a week because i like to do that i get stories there i meet people there and i interact with the actual public that i then speak to on radio television or via a column and i think that if you're going to call yourself a journalist and you don't do that and instead you ride around in a limousine and make your thirty million a year or whatever it's going to be i don't understand how you feel that you can aptly communicate with the public so i think we have a big problem there i agree it's kind of like being a professional athlete now i mean are you really in touch with your fan base yeah i mean being a being a journalist in television is just another word for being a high paid celebrity ok i suppose you know they're going to have their own you know celebrity awards were but he shows up ok but you know. this is one of the

things that i find worrisome is that you have a corporate media that has no interest in the public whatsoever they have a bottom line. they have their donors they have the sponsors and all that i mean they. them that system is perfected here but they get further and further away because i am convinced that it was the corporate media that elected donald trump by calling the rest of us deplorable and running with the smearing at us and laughing at us and talking down to and i think that i'm from the midwest people don't like to be talked that way from both coasts ok it's going to happen again in twenty twenty if they don't change their tune go ahead ron yeah you know i don't disagree with that i mean i do think that the corporate media did elect donald trump and this is you know just the whole model you know i say that if you want to democratic experiment to be successful and you have the media structure that we have in the

united states that would be a lot like wanting to open a gourmet restaurant and cooking exclusively with spam and no other ingredient i mean it's just not it's just not the right kind of structure to have this is side and we want the one silver lining in all that though is that i mean people are leaving cable television news dro i mean the confidence in cable news gets lower and lower every year there's academic studies that come out constantly there was a harvard study recently that revealed that what the media talks about and what people actually care about is so disproportional it's about about seventy five percent to six percent and that's why people like me have a job they have pets why well you know that's why there's shows on you tube that are sustainable now i mean you are so thirsty for actual news and they're finding it i'll give you mark dice i mean his daily. video i mean he can he's competing

with the major networks this one guy ok i mean you jimmy door does very well any time jordan peterson is on anyone's program that the hits go through the ceiling here you know i'm agreeing with ron let me go to ron let me go to rob because i think you know people are so desperate to hear different voices and stop being spin pounded down your throat all the time go ahead rob. well the last time i was on the show what we discuss is one of my favorite lines from the classic film broadcast news is albert brooks says you know we're in trouble when we become more important than the story. that there is way too much spin and we were also it's it's become so much about ratings and i started in scripted television on comedy shows and you know i learned early you know well it doesn't matter if you're funny or if it's good what one of the ratings and one of the nielsen say and. so you're

striving for that rather than ultimately delivering the news or the real story and again from both sides i'd have to have certain sources i've used and boy oh boy have they been wrong but in the first week of december i sat down and had had an interview with with an attorney who was really plugged in and he was telling me too in two weeks kirschner is going to be indicted well you know look i mean i already said things hang on her ground i got to go i got to just be a hero guys we've run out of time i certainly miss walter cronkite many thanks to my guests to new york and in los angeles and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at our d.c. unix times and remember. the

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