door show it was an excellent program on net neutrality learned an enormous amount and ok it would probably be let me go back to you one of the things that i find really disturbing in our political discourse is that everyone if you post someone they're a traitor they act in a treasonous way and i criticize donald trump for that and i certainly i certainly criticize and this n.b.c. and c.n.n. for peddling the same thing go ahead rob. well one of the things that really is to infuriate me when i was a regular contributor to fox i've always been a democrat is i had people that would suddenly contact me on facebook or via twitter or they are e-mail and say i can't believe you're a traitor and you're on fox and then i will would respond and say well what did you see me when i was on this week no i won't watch it well then how do you know what i'm saying or what i'm contributing and really as a result of fox i've met a lot of interesting conservative people that i never would have met who follow me

on twitter or i've spoken to on sirius radio and i really enjoy the interaction between us one of the things i think that we have to make the distinction about also is that there are news shows and there are opinion shows the problem is that the opinion shows have taken over and the news shows many of them are letting too many opinions creep in and it can be with a raised eyebrow or an inflection and that's wrong if you're supposed to be a reporter and you're giving the news and you're supposed to let the you know or the reader let me say i've been here before you could write that you know we're going to bring but i can't think particularly with this russia gate thing and it was a liberal corporate stations facts get in the way of spin for them and i think that's why you get so few facts i mean the memo the contents of the memo was a really discussed but it was not the timing of it well you know we have the memo we could read it we could talk about it now but would we'll have to wait for the democratic one. i mean this is what you're against me gentlemen we're going to go

to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the media and they're divided in america state with art. about your sudden passing i've only just learned your yourself and taken your last wrong turn. your attitude up to us we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each breath . but then my feeling started to change you talked about more like it was a game still some more fun to view those that didn't like to question our arc and i

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welcome back across like where all things are considered i'm peter lawwell to remind you we're discussing the media and the divide in america. let me go to you in new york here i i asked rob about using the word traitor and being considered treacherous or treasonous here it's very difficult to have a conversation with someone after you've called them that ok and this is what i find very dangerous i mean i can give you a real life example you know from the great saga called russia russia russia ok i know all of the name calling of leaders around the world and then how do you sit down and talk ok and i think that this is what's really foolish. about journalism when you get that hyperventilation that you know you get the the adrenaline rush and you feel really great but then when you you know think about what you just said and you're supposed to be some kind of. play of some kind of public role adding

value to the public sphere and then you call he's a traitor you're a traitor you know it doesn't get down to it's not disagreeing with someone now it is the are morally. unacceptable that's not what we should do in journalism go ahead who you. well i think that the problem is the word moderate has become a dirty word i think that the left has gone far to the left i think the right has gone far to the right even to the point where you have republican ton of republican infighting i mean we've got phrases like rhino sellout republicans anytime you know they want to make a deal with the democrats so that's kind of the world that we're operating in right now but unfortunately it's being fuel i think more or less because the larger and the larger percentage of mainstream media sources although that's kind of a dirty word that we don't always like to use are so skewed against the president you know they've been trying to undermine president trump this entire time so

that's why they're reporting right now it isn't really necessarily reporting it's one hundred percent spin that's almost like their news programs have become opinion programs and there isn't really a lot of you know let's say moderate or middle of the road news that exist anymore in america you know ron i saw trey gowdy on face the nation the country needs more people like that you may disagree with his politics but at least he listened to hard questions and he acknowledged. some give and take which was so it's so refreshing to see it was a really remarkable moment but you know what what i would get if we compare let's say hannity and rachel maddow you know both of them have one thing in common one phrase our democracy is at stake our democracy is being threatened but for very very different ways again maybe i'm off on this here but it's the status quo the new status quo that's coming into being that they don't seem to understand here you know we have a f.b.i.

that has gone rogue it's been gotten rogue for a long time it's nothing new it's just the the curtain is revealed this isn't going on a long time to design dimity remember j. edgar hoover i mean i do ok guys my child at least ok so i mean you know using this you know. our democracy is is under threat and i find that really hard to believe in and i thought it very disingenuous go ahead ron. i'm one hundred percent with you and fact whenever somebody says to me hey trump hijacked our democracy you know i don't like trump of my responses well we were kind of overdue to look into a new one anyway so maybe that's a blessing in disguise and you hit the nail on the head with the status quo comment peter what nobody really wants to talk about in the corporate media is that the status quo is broken and it really oh i would say to you you know i think on a lot of issues we probably don't see eye to eye but i think that the reason that moderate has become a quote unquote dirty word isn't necessarily because being moderate is right or

wrong but because the status quo is so completely broken and people are disenfranchised as a response to that you know donald trump ran on this idea of some kind of outsider some kind of you know guy that was really going to disrupt the status quo you know and whether folks bought that or not you know i personally didn't i don't think that's what he is at all but that's what he ran on and that's what he sold in people bought into that because they're so tired of the status quo in neo liberalism ok well the rabbi who has done it on some levels though continue go ahead who knows that he has done it on his own or the owner of the home we've seen as keep going to go ahead go ahead go ahead to new york go ahead. ok i'm sorry i apologize if the delay i'm sorry nobody has done that on some levels and i think

that that's the reason why there's been so much opposition to him you know it because we're going to finally i think and they're going to do this to themselves i think the elements that were anti trump are going to lead to you know uncovering a lot of the things that went on during the obama administration you know things that were conducted by hillary clinton things that were conducted by barack obama the justice department you know on the right a lynch eric holder all this information is going to come out as a result of their crybaby and being anti trump because he was ultimately seen as a threat because he's not really necessarily in bed with you have a lot of these people that were the holdout as well for you bring up you bring up a really interesting point in let me go to rob right now because it's something that i've been mulling over quite a bit and then again it's this memo issue here is that you know it seems to me and i read the memo very carefully and i find it very believable ok i've been unfortunately i'm have to follow the story twenty four seven is forced on you it's and it's a fictitious story but what isn't fictitious is malfeasance at the highest level of

the d.o.j. and the f.b.i. i mean i'm i'm convinced of that and i thought the memo was very well laid out and a very interesting narrative but rob the problem is is the mainstream media just denies it and i find and this is what the part of this cultural civil war that is brewing in the united states is that you're going to you do have a part of the population of the public that is aware of these what i think are reasonable facts to believe and then you have the corporatists here in the media denying it and i think that you can't it can't be that can't be elevated in the air for very long because people are going to say well i mean flynn is going to go to jail matter for it's going to go to jail but comi lie clinton lied to the f.b.i. and they're not going to go to jail and at that point there's going to be a train wreck go ahead rob. first of all i think we're getting into way too much supposition which is

a big problem right now in the media the media shouldn't be acting on either side be it right or left or whomever absolutely jury and executioner absolutely and comparative ok and i just as an aside i'm sorry but i've been chuckling about this when i j edgar hoover got mentioned i thought what kind of nickname would trump come up with him and j. edgar but anyway. and i'm going to get a little to general here peter ok to ron and julio but one of the things that really bugs me and i feel that people who do what we do at least at the highest echelons and i'm talking about the highest paid people like a mad cow or or sean hannity if i were king i would force them to where it originates way down in the bowery and write it all the way up to one hundred twenty fifth street a couple of times a week because i like to do that i get stories there i meet people there and i interact with the actual public that i then speak to on radio television or via

a column and i think that if you're going to call yourself a journalist and you don't do that and instead you ride around in a limousine and make your thirty million a year or whatever it's going to be i don't understand how you feel that you can aptly communicate with the public so i think we have a big problem there i mean it's kind of like being a professional athlete now i mean are you really in touch with your fan base yeah i mean being a being a journalist on television is just another word for being a high paid celebrity ok i suppose you know they're going to have their own you know celebrity awards were but he shows up ok but you know. this is one of the things that i find worrisome is that you have a corporate media that has no interest in the public whatsoever they have a bottom line. they have their donors they have the sponsors and all that i mean for them that system is. beck did here but they get further and further away because i am convinced that it was the corporate media that elected donald trump by

calling the rest of us deplorable and running with the smearing at us and laughing at us and talking down to and i think that i'm from the midwest people don't like to be talked that way from both coasts ok it's going to happen again in twenty twenty if they don't change their tune go ahead ron yeah you know i don't disagree with that i mean i do think that the corporate media did elect donald trump and this is you know just the whole model you know i say that if you want to democratic experiment to be successful and you have the media structure that we have in the united states that would be a lot like wanting to open a gourmet restaurant and cooking exclusively with spam and no other ingredient i mean it's just not it's just not the right kind of structure to have this is side and we want the one silver lining in all that though is that i mean people are leaving cable television news dro i mean the confidence in cable news

gets lower and lower every year there's academic studies that come out constantly there was a harvard study recently that revealed that what the media talks about and what people actually care about is so disproportional it's about about seventy five percent to six percent and that's why people like me have a job that's why well you know that's why there's shows on you tube that are sustainable now or so thirsty a bracco news and they're finding it i'll give you mark dice i mean his daily. video i mean he can he's competing with the major networks this one guy ok i mean you did jimmy door does very well any time jordan peterson is on anyone's program that the hits go through the ceiling here you know i'm agreeing with ron let me go to ron let me go to rob because i think you know people are so desperate to hear different voices and stop being spin pounded down your throat all the time go ahead

rob. well the last time i was on the show what we discuss is one of my favorite lines from the classic film broadcast news is albert brooks says you know we're in trouble when we become more important than the story and there is way too much spin and we were also it's it's become so much about ratings and i started in scripted television on comedy shows and you know i learned early you know well it doesn't matter if you're funny or if it's good what one of the ratings and one of the nielsen say and. so you're striving for that rather than ultimately delivering the news or the real story and again from both sides i have to have certain sources i've used and boy oh boy have they been wrong but in the first week of december i sat down and have had an interview with with an attorney who is really plugged in and he was telling me too in two weeks kirschner is going to be indicted well you

know ok i mean i already said things had gotten from i got to i got to just be a meter guys we've run out of time i certainly miss walter cronkite many thanks to my guests to new york and in los angeles and thanks to our viewers for watching us here in r.g.c. unix times and remember. across europe municipalities are taking their water supply back from private companies. and this is the simple song alone even some companies from elsewhere they invite private companies to take over their utilities and anybody else throw blows. that's mr guess who got it well and to begin to go. this is a stick with them out of it of prohibition for you and i but the left bill brought

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on the eve of the winter olympics hopes to diminish for dozens of russian athletes fighting to have their brands overturned. a gruesome video of a live in children mimicking a mass murder goes viral our guest share their views on the in fact war can have on the minds of youngsters. execute. mock executions one at the what she was it online already with a watch. and if they push the first time guaranteed they're going to have struck the kid was probably mental health. and the new party is being launched in the u.k.

with the aim of reversing but the sport it's getting from across the channel is leading to accusations of french meddling. welcome to the program i'm jack and thanks for tuning in. the two thousand and eighteen winter olympics will be launching in south korea on friday and there's still some doubt as to who will compete the court of arbitration for sport has heard the case of dozens of banned russian athletes but no decision was reached on wednesday but the session adjourned for a day trying to reports. the olympic dreams of almost fifty russian asked they right now depend on the court of arbitration for sports and for the pm chang games this is their new home. the court convened for a few hours on wednesday but there was no decision we resumed the hearing tomorrow

. but simply a final decision can be rendered at the end of the day tomorrow what do you call them after the opening ceremony the goal is really to finish for you and then when it is going to so i would say to me the last moments of the announcement should be striving to but mostly. it is a huge court case as many as forty seven russian athletes and coaches with a clean doping test history against the international olympic committee but in a sense it's a battle between the court of arbitration for sport forecasts and the i.o.c. here's why a group of russian winter athletes were and this really a few months ago banned for life by the i.o.c. their medals were taken away but then all of this was overturned by cas last week regardless of that the olympic officials decided to flash a red card plus there were more russian winter athletes who didn't get lifetime

bans but despite the fact that they had never been caught cheating before as well they still heard that they can't come to pyongyang so it's the careers and the olympic dreams of at a swiss law firm is trying to save and the hearings are happening right behind these doors swished lawyers are saying that the grounds for the lawsuits are the nontransparent nature of the criteria plus the on lawful nature of the verdict itself and most importantly discrimination on basis of citizenship and remember that some of the people whose fate is being protected here are reigning olympic champions. movement does not consider me an athlete who deserves to be

a part of it without even providing an explanation i've never given a reason to doubt my honesty and my integrity. the games in korea were to be the first in my career together with my partner we've been working towards these in the mix for many years it was my cherished dream. and i was shocked to be lympics my dream and i was working towards this goal throughout my entire sports career i've given no reasons to doubt and i'm. so to put it very mildly cason the i.o.c. don't see eye to why the court clears a group of russian athletes but the olympic officials can't be bothered this situation put the two organizations almost on a brink of conflict the secretary general of cass says that there is no crisis but see for yourself who these kind of decision is she streamlet disappointing

these decision to meet for reforms in the internal structure of castes i must support my traitor's and so far i think the procedure was fully respected the reaction was very strong in the stand disappointment of the i.o.c. because they expected another verdict but we should not. it's better to wait before criticizing the decisions themselves because they are not being drafted yet so again there is very little time for cast to make up its mind the opening ceremonies coming up on friday february ninth but whatever the decision is the russian sport cas and the i.o.c. will know. ever be the same again. we heard from a russian skater who did not receive an invitation to the games despite being cleared by cast

a week ago. it is sad for me to see other russian athletes posting videos and photos from korea clearly the first explanation which comes to mind is that they want to get rid of the strongest competitors maybe they were upset because we were ranked first at the sochi winter olympics they give no explicit nation do not share their reasons that's why the fear of losing seems the only plausible motive behind a decision i saw those looks from my foreign colleagues i heard them sneaking around some foreign athletes even took pictures of me it wasn't a pleasant feeling when other athletes refused to enter in the elevator with me and i felt helpless because there was no way for me to prove them wrong. alarm representing some of the athletes currently appealing the i.o.c. ban told us that she hopes the decision will reflect the facts i believe necessary to take all legal steps available to us to ensure participation.

in the uk. we hope that the independent panel that was composed were truly. at the fact of the law in front of them and. to the right decision. the i.o.c. has almost plenary power to even ignore what the court of arbitration for sports has decided and i think nations would probably say we don't want the i.o.c. making arbitrary decisions that while it may one day affect our athletes international sports community and member nations really need to get together and create a body that can enforce rules fairly and across the board equally because we do not have that right now. earlier the i.o.c. issued strict rules regarding russian athletes uniforms as russian competitors are only allowed to compete under a neutral flag the uniform should bear the words a limpid athlete from russia or its acronym zero a r it should also be of

a single or dual color and we know it will be grey no russian flag or any of its colors white blue and red are allowed however that doesn't stop one russian design company from showing its support for russia's athletes by launching a line of special t. shirts putting on the acronym one of its designers to share his motivation behind the line. what. is stupid to deprive people of their own country and identity because whatever uniform athletes wearing we all know that their own russian athletes and that's why we came up with the project using the strange name prolific teen of the olympic athletes from russia. we want to show you that for us and for athletes truth and sport and what drives and all these bonds and sanctions are just political games because we've released a huge number of these principles noncommercial use their intent to find this and we hope it will encourage around fleet's they'll see that we support them and that we need their records in victory. meanwhile north korean delegates arrived on

tuesday among them over two hundred cheerleaders the women crossed the demilitarized zone dressed in red and black wearing d p r k flags as they did some chatted with journalists the delegation is almost three hundred strong making it reportedly one of the largest border crossings between the two countries leader kim jong il the star is also expected to attend the games the north and the south have agreed to march together under one flag at the opening ceremony seen as a sign of thawing relations but while the north is on the charm offensive u.s. vice president mike pence who is also going to the games has a very different message than i am announcing today that the united states of america will soon unveil the toughest and most aggressive round of economic sanctions on north korea ever we will continue to intensify our maximum pressure campaign until north korea takes concrete steps toward complete verifiable and irreversible denuclearization. a recent poll has found that most

americans believe their media is biased it comes at a time when ever more former senior government employees are moving into t.v. punditry with the uproar surrounding the recent nunez memo giving them lots to talk about so american explores if there are grounds for presumption of bias. many people seeking expertise on the nunez memo must be switching through channels these days so is it a big deal or is it underwhelming was the right to release it well here's a familiar face to answer all of your questions the fact that the newness and republicans denied the ability of the minority the democratic members of that committee to put out its report is just appalling he has abused the office of the chairmanship yes that was john brennan former cia director and now a member of the m s n b c family as a contributor breading was a prominent figure in the intelligence community appointed by barack obama but that background doesn't necessarily mean he's biased.