it's ridiculous because the most recent international international institute of strategic saw these think based in london. published the assessment of this review saying that they don't think russia is that stupid to use their nuclear weapons so i don't know what who on earth pentagon is having this assumption or is trying to put trade or implement and you know persuade the public opinion you know the russians or the people who are running russia you know the barbarians the madman who are trying to subdue the whole world in fact it's all the way around ok michael i interrupted you and you continue please well we do see russian military exercises that envision early use of nuclear weapons we do see here is really how we actually only way in retaliation and escalation let's be clear about that that

is their military doc i don't think i don't. listen i like the doctrine i'm not convinced however that it would always guide russian behavior i want to get back to the world you're describing where the united states and russia are both very clear that they don't feel each other as adversaries and they don't envision you needing these weapons against reading that read the work that's the world reading that report is very adversarial i mean almost every few paragraphs it's very adversarial i mean i'm sorry michael but it was directed against the united states in china ok ten seconds before we go to the break go ahead michael. it was directed against russia and china you're right and i agree that it's a unfortunate state but i think it was brought a bond brought upon largely by perceived russian aggressiveness in this domain whether you agree with that perception or not that's what ok well so we're going to go to a break here but i want to point out to our viewers that it wasn't russia that overthrew

the legitimately elected government in kiev in february two thousand and fourteen after a short break we'll continue our discussion on the nuclear posture review state with. manufacture consent to public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. with the final. lift certainly the one percent. we can all middle of the room see.

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welcome back across like we're all things are considered i'm peter a belter mountain we're discussing the nuclear posture review. ok kevin i'd like to point out to our viewers you know this is a very heated here but this is a very important topic of course michael did write something in usa today but it's gotten very little coverage in on the cable stations which i think is really an indication of just how. these kind of issues were taken out away from the public square because i think people should be talking about these things they're having said that kevin it seems to me that there are some lessons being on learned here

and we call that mad mass destruction and it seems to me the u.s. is on learning that all the major nuclear powers all understand that you know that's probably why they haven't been used ok since the first used by the united states at the end of the second world war it seems to me the u.s. weeding this past year is moving away from that again thinking the thinkable go ahead ken. well these are all weapons and here we are in the era of trump where you know christmas of two thousand and sixteen trump says mr brzezinski flippantly let it be an arms race so you know no lessons are learned from history here it's fascinating how this goes back to world war two if you look at a book like it says the decision to use the atomic bomb a big part of the american decision to use atomic weapons in japan in august one thousand nine hundred five was to tell the soviet union where to get off that the united states was in charge little did the us know that the soviets were just four

years away from their own nuclear weapon because they had infiltrated the manhattan project at los alamos and montréal they had spies everywhere getting that information and then with the hydrogen bomb it was an even quicker turnaround between the americans and the russians we have to get over this american russian chinese thing these are on the side of weapons we can wipe out our species as dan ellsberg warned in his book we're talking about in the late one nine hundred fifty s. the ability to kill six hundred million people in a short period of time those are the old days we're now talking about the ability to wipe out in full scale nuclear war many billions of people very quickly and with nuclear winter that may take care of the rest of the human population so if we want to survive as a species we have to abolish these weapons it's as simple as that well i mean the united states is a member of the nonproliferation treaty and it is obligated to do that again that's not mentioned in the report least that i didn't see it a deal in let me let me go to you here i think there's something much broader going

on here and i think this posture is really all about how the united states sees its you know polar moment with the end of the cold war shrinking that window is getting it's closing and i think it is lashing out it's threatening it's saying that the that russia and china are revisionist powers i have a hard time believing that both countries want to go back to the basic principles of the. did nations charter ok as i mentioned before the end of the program the united states trips around the world overturning governments involved in seven different wars without any kind of united nations mandate and they say that russia and china are revisionist powers i mean that is like the pot calling the kettle black go ahead adrian london. this is this is simple orwellian double speak from america. i'm not talking about american people i mean i have many american friends. who are. intelligent people when it comes to.

the upper echelons of of american political sphere. get the sense and feeling that they are behaving like a spoiled brat who is dissatisfied with the fact that world is no longer looking towards them with the emphasis as it was before. the attacks on russia today with the attacks on russia as a whole as a. teen or you know china it is emphasizing it is insecurity that. its values or its point of view can be a challenge and this is whole thing about move to polarity that you and i can you know go to the t.v. screen or whatever go to any country and get the source for ourselves to know the news and then assess them according to our knowledge and intellectual abilities but

america doesn't want that and it's you know it's funny. to me as a grotesque as a person who was brought up in poland. knowing radio free europe radio liberty was the radio that you know my grandparents or my you know my my parents were listening you know with their friends in some places. far away from the by the communists i mean and. i know we have to today i lived in poland in the one nine hundred eighty s. i remember all of that had a very very clearly. only remember that from from my view you know from my family's you know stories that you know they were gathering in some you know this place is going to be not all right the police will not get distracted here michael let me go to you i mean do you see any circumstances were the united states would resort to nucular weapons over some islands in the south china sea or poland i mean or

ukraine excuse me no i don't however i can let me say one thing to frame a little bit of where this is coming from i understand why people who see donald trump and some of his behavior and some of his rhetoric would think of this in one way i want to underscore it was secretary of defense jim battles of moment of this document obviously it was we all know we are now doing the topic to the world about donald trump it was not about because the i'm going to be very. my go go you are going to have a very long go ahead you are very long and your comment got me to my grief in my head my comment is secretary of the matter is a very thoughtful guy and he's not going to use or recommend the use of nuclear weapons cavalierly and he does perceive a strong russian assertiveness in the nuclear government ok he thinks he might go back again ok they don't want to because. hang on here michael you know it's madness is madness bluffing is just a bluff then. is this whole document a bluff to scare people it's partly it was that no but it's partly psychological it

is partly to point out to russia that if they're going to be threatening with exercises with buzzing aircraft with doctrines or concepts on who to dion who has border and recently who was on the order michael america's border on that on the eastern seaboard of california is out there is not the border you're talking about you know my views on ok really i mean you know my views on nato expansion i think it's gone far enough i agree with your concern that we need a new security architecture for eastern europe i hear your point on that issue but nonetheless it's russia that's buzzing nato airplanes that's attack it whether it's nato arab league perceives it and that's what i was saying russia's borders you know if the russian planes had that on the same base as a regular basis over new york what do you think the response would be outrage ok we've already had that kevin let me go to you here is there going to be a new arms race here because you know what the u.s. this kind of document is what the third report this year about its posture it's all

military it's all force it's all about head gemini ok it is and you know because of the hostility that comes out of washington towards beijing towards the moscow they will react with a what is a u.s. one hundred an arms race then they'll get one ok what good does that do for the world go ahead kevin right there it will be an arms race trump said let it be an arms race let's spend a trillion three or more you know look how close we came you mentioned the buzzing of borders look at the cuban missile crisis if not for vassily off on a soviet sub voting against launch of a nuclear tipped torpedo that the u.s. did not even know was there we we could have wiped out the human race in october of one nine hundred sixty two the man who saved the world it happened again in one thousand nine hundred three with stanislav. a soviet nuclear commander who refused to. believe the glitch in the computer that mistook a sunrise for

a nuclear watch by the united states we have played with fire for seventy five years with these nuclear weapons and if we continue to do this it's going to be the end of our species that's what beatrice fan of the international campaign for the abolition of nuclear weapons warned just a couple months ago at the nobel prize ceremony we either abolish these weapons or they will abolish us that's what's at stake here. one of the things that if we get these lower grade weapons don't you think that's going to entice countries for example south korea japan and saudi arabia i mean if you can play with little nukes ok that's not so bad ok i mean it what it is is it normalizes nuclear weapons for a second tier powers i mean how does that make the world safer i can't understand it i mean maybe brazil and you know argentina will get in the axe to i mean the united states has said oh a positive precedent the only country in the world to ever use nuclear weapons

against a civilian population a country that didn't have those weapons they were going backwards go ahead. i mean . that recent move america just literally. in the food because. it opened the opportunities for other countries to you know to say look if the americans are grading themselves what of all of us there's no you know the safety of any more talking about you know north korea and attacking north korea were to me what doesn't mean mini nukes it is still a nuke is a still nuclear weapon so it still harms people who are over there so our i will never you know before this motion i'm strongly against using a any type of nuclear weapons because as you've mentioned you know we were less and i mean at least us you know my generation had the lesson from the hiroshima

nagasaki so i don't want to see people in the career my contemporaries being you know so much devastated as the japanese where. time so i don't believe and you know it's posing one serious question if america wants to lead the world what does it says their moves their recent move moves and you know the actions we're going to limit let me jump in here i want to be fair i want to give michael the last word here michael you know maybe maybe the silver lining in all this is that maybe russia china and the united states can actually sit down and maybe start thinking about a new architecture for the use of these weapons maybe go ahead michael. yeah i hope so peter i'm hopeful that we're actually at the worst of it now or maybe even coming out of it and i do agree with president trump's inherent instinct that u.s. russia relations should not be so bad and that we need a new approach unfortunately as you know we're still bogged down in the twenty six

thousand election debate here so it's sort of impossible the united states right now to move beyond that at the moment but i am hopeful that we're going to be able to move out of that on the tactical on the issue of the low yield. nuclear weapon i think you're exactly right peter earlier when you said there really is no meaningful distinction we shouldn't think these weapons are somehow more usable again if i want to interpret for you what i believe the pentagon views as the reason for doing this they see that russia has a lot of tactical nuclear weapons they don't want russia to get the sense that somehow only russia can engage in this kind of coercive activity and therefore i want to push back on that on a hopeful that wants to move on that last point there we have run out of time gentlemen many thanks to my guests in washington and in london and thanks to our viewers for watching us here see you next time and remember.

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a glittering opening ceremony holds the start of the twenty eight thousand winter olympics in south korea but people in chiang celebrate the event protesters take to the streets there angry at the participation of the north koreans and again. for dozens of russian athletes the opening of the games is overshadowed by friday's decision of the court of arbitration for sport at the very last moment pass dismiss their appeals against the doping related ban. right supporters clash with police in an italian city that suffered a racially motivated shooting last week and then massive debate over growing nationalist emotions in the country. and

a prominent anti harassment activist of the meaning to the movement is accused by at least two men of sexual misconduct. good to have you with us this evening my name's neil harvey this is r.t. and. the winter olympics in south korea have officially begun it all kicked off with a grand opening ceremony in the host region yong chang nearly three thousand deaths from ninety countries took part in the opening ceremony of what is the fifty third winter games our correspondent philip are trying to has more from the event. the young chang is flashing lights i've heard it roar a few times it is happening at the opening ceremony of the winter olympic games

waiting saying oh the koreans these guys definitely know how to put up a show and done the audience just take the famous rapper psi who wants to rock the world with his hand on the dial but to this opening ceremony is special for many other reasons so let me just name a few that is the north and the south korean team was marching under the same flag then the oh a our team or the olympic athlete from russia marching without their flags and this is the first time we don't see them wash and black out and a little bit opening ceremony since one thousand nine hundred two back then the athletes from the former soviet republic march under the i.o.c. flag after the collapse of the soviet union also at today's ceremony the american team consisting of exactly two hundred forty two athletes the biggest national goal again in the history of the winter olympics i can tell you that most people don't

have that seeing around me are three or four perhaps the only reason why they're a little bit disappointed is that they're not inside that arena but believe it or not just meters away from where i'm standing right now locals are protesting instead of watching the opening ceremony of the olympics being glued to their t.v. and just a couple of hours ago i saw punch and wags being burned and pepper spray being used by police. the on just hours before the opening ceremonies protests have erupted outside the. unpick stadium as you can see this group of people that's carrying american and israeli flags south korean flags as well are protesting against the invitation of the north korean team to the piano chang

a lympics. though it looks like the small mark trying to use the opening ceremony to deliver their message we have two countries south korea and north korea we didn't make we are not to cater. through the regime's. rule redskin. trying. now at the very same time on the other side of the street there is a rival protests a much smaller one but the slogans there are completely different it says against war for peace young to go home so these people it looks like they're in favor of the steps that the governments of north and south korea have made to make sure that

something is happening between the two countries during the winter olympics and young chang the number of police officers is growing so is the number of protesters these people are definitely going to stay here during the opening ceremonies so this is going to be the background of the opening of young chang twenty eight. the conflict over the korean peninsula is casting a shadow over the games and it's not just to this clashing over the crisis but also politicians to. that's what's going to put. the problem so you can see the. difference

today's military parades will show off the powerful status of the democratic people's republic of korea as long as hostile policies from the u.s. continues and mission of the korean people's army can never change. the. united states of america wolf sinew to stand shoulder to shoulder in our effort to bring maximum pressure to bear on north korea until that time comes when the finally and permanent in your reverse of what abandon their nuclear and ballistic missile and. the. feel. in the

south the. north korean leader kim jong un sister arrived in south korea friday to attend the opening ceremony south korean officials greeted her at the airport where she arrived on her brother's private jet in north korea kim jong is responsible for propaganda and i do take she's the first member of north korea's leading family to visit. the south the one nine hundred fifty s. the mali south korean president shook hands with north korea's ceremonial head of state that was at a pre opening ceremony reception athletes from the two koreas marched together under a single flag at the opening ceremony that decision itself was reached a breakthrough talks initiated by the north earlier last month. earlier in the day a last minute appeal from forty five russian athletes and two coaches against the

ban preventing them from competing failed the court of arbitration for sports secretary general announced the ruling with just hours to go before the games got underway at least lawyers have branded that decision sanctions in disguise gas arbitrators of concert but the process created by the hour you see to establish an invitation list of russian athletes to compete as olympic athletes from russia could not be described as a sanction but rather as an eligibility decision. not demonstrates that the manner in which two special commission system by the i.o.c. was carried out in a discriminatory arbitrary manner my colleague nic here and discuss the court's decision with artie's daniel hawkins. well reaction from the i.o.c. and water certainly would have been positive they would perhaps have viewed this as a victory for sport as justice served against doping if you will from those of

appeal from the laws of course perhaps when one of surprise those forty seven russian athletes and coaches have appealed based on the grounds that a large part of the group initially didn't face any sanctions from the i.o.c. whatsoever and another part of the group of course did receive bias had their medals their awards from social twenty fourteen taken away but those were subsequently overturned because of lack of evidence by that cast this isn't just about a week or so ten days ago the coach is representing the athletes of course pulled no punches in criticizing this cast this isn't a take a listen i don't know what to say i'm really disappointed i can't understand the cast decision first they cleared the athletes and now they say sorry you can't go to the olympics this is some kind of madness it's terrible not just for athletes but for all of international sport did i expect cas to reach this decision fifty fifty especially after thomas back in one of his latest speeches pressured the court of arbitration for sport after ruled in our favor he was literally

threatening the court he was almost seeing he would dissolve the court if it ruled again in favor of russian athletes who have been claims from the head coach of russia's news team that the i.o.c. was pressuring cathy this decision is that the case that the i.o.c. president thomas spock was certainly scathing about the decision when that came through it would have been viewed very much as a decision on the mind of the i.o.c. it or thirty and also very much put a spoke in the wheel of water their investigation and undermining also the credibility of the mclaren report cost a decision it is a extremely disappointing and surprising for. the i.o.c. we would never have expected these are these a decision of the church and the need for reform. in no the interludes structure of.