oh that far sophia i think it reflects the very sharp political dividing lines right now in our country and not just between the democrats and republicans but between within the parties themselves i think the democrats are struggling to reestablish their identity to decide what harder wing of the democratic party will move forward into the next election cycles and i think the republican party is there trying to decide how much the president some do some don't it's you know i'm not a true betraying any secrets here so i think there's there are there's conflict and tensions and instabilities within both parties again having watched this for much of my over sixty years i've seen other times in our country when we've seen just as confused and days and we generally emerge out of it stronger than we enter that so i'm overall confident that we'll get out of this phase that we're in stronger than we were before we entered it so one terror attack has already been prevented thanks to the cia sharing intelligence with moscow and put in has personally thanked the

americans for their help in that how does that work with the intelligence agencies and how do you call parade on some matters when there is general mistrust and hostility i mean how do you know you not think i think that's a great question and i love that question. yeah well i love the question because it gets back to the heart of what we are what i hope we are and what we strive to be and even on our on the days we don't we don't reach this ethics i would call it of intelligence our basic motto our basic if you will standard is we have a duty to warn we have a duty to warn anybody anywhere in the world if they might their lives might be threatened by terrorist activity and of course in my time at cia working in counterterrorism i personally instructed my officers to analyze and then provide the russian government with information that i believe prevented attacks on russian citizens during my time so i consider that

a high one of our best days any time we help one another prevent attacks where people might be killed obviously and so that's that's a great story and as we've done before this is just fortunately on this occasion there's a little bit of recognition that it happened and i think that's a good thing so getting there recent pentagon military doctrine shift from the war on terror to great power while great with china and russia given higher priority now means that the cia's anti terror effort will fall to her. i don't think so sophia because terrorism is not going away we fact i'm a little worried right now because every time there's been a relative lull in activity such as we've seen since a little bit of reduction of conflict in syria recently there's been a rebound and then the terrorists every merged in a new form so i'm not in any way believer in the idea that we were past this threat

of terrorism i think at the same time the great power rivalry doesn't necessarily imply that we're enemies again or that we're back to a cold war i think in a way whether you're that you apply this idea of rivalry to china or russia it's a recognition that both countries should be taken seriously and that their interests are sometimes a threat to the united states but i would describe it more as competition than adversarial. i've heard former cia officials lament the fact that the agency has fewer resources now than sure in the cold war but does new technology like the n.s.a. surveillance mean that fewer people are needed at the agency anyway. i generally am not a person that believes that intelligence resources are insufficient i think we have plenty of resources and we have to be smarter in how we go about things as you as you indicated technology helps leverage we can leverage technology to as afore we

call a force multiplier that makes us stronger there are other ways to do it too i don't think numbers is often the way to attack the problem i think we need smart people we need people who have the authorities they need the resources they need to do their jobs but i don't think the numbers indicate whether we have enough coverage in other words i believe or the u.s. intelligence community we have some we have sixteen different intelligence and it is within the what we call our intelligence community we have plenty of capability i think where we need to make more efforts is in how we decide what we do and then being more efficient in going about our missions so will the agency have less need for gathering old fashioned cold war style human intelligence like i don't know talking to someone or infiltrating a guerrilla campaign controls like hacking is dropping on phone conversations intercepting e-mails spying would. replace the human intelligence component. well you're talking to an old school person so i don't feel i need to reform my thinking

at this point my life so i'd have to answer you by saying there's always room there's been room for thousands of years for old old fashioned espionage spies go back to biblical times and you know as long as there are humans on the earth there is a need to know what our if you will competitors and adversaries are thinking and human spies will never be replaced by cyber or hacking or any other key or drones or any other technology in fact in the one nine hundred ninety s. in my view the u.s. intelligence can community became two and the armored with what i call national technical means whether that was satellites or other things to replace human intelligence we thought the world had changed after the collapse of the soviet union and it hadn't we're still living in the same world i was born in the one nine hundred fifty four so i believe in answer your question will always going to need understanding of adversaries and even some of our friends plans and intentions

because by having that knowledge will make better decisions and i also feel like more technology progresses with typewriters and old fashioned letters are the safest thing out there still all as well thank you so much i know that to be right as for exactly right thank you so much for this interview this wonderful insight always shoot all the best of luck for a talk until ralf larson two decades cia veteran former moscow station chief of about they cia's relationship with the trumpet ministration and it's well in today's cow to quote that's it for this initiative so it can cost you next.

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it's going to. russia is mourning the seventy one people who died in sunday's plane crash near moscow the jet came down just minutes into the flight leaving no survivors. local

slowly return to the syrian city of rock the once defacto capital of islamic state which has now left with no clean water or infrastructure but there seems to be a shortfall when it comes to footing the bill for reconstruction. second medal of the winter olympics in south korea taking silver in the figure skating canada getting gold in the u.s. coming. monday ten am here in moscow welcome to the program it's called in by with. real world news this hour. russia is mourning seventy one people killed in an act on sunday the regional passenger plane went down minutes after taking off from moscow there are no survivors. it's.

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want to. see when you were gone. i mean you can. see. how these were the first images of the crash site that emerged online off the tragedy around six hundred emergency workers were sent to that site record snowfall over the past week has made their task especially difficult. scott over an area of more than one kilometer such teams are having to sift through. what i guess you have reports from the scene. rescuers here working in shifts there are

dozens and dozens of not hundreds of them but one part of one group works at the crash sites another group breasts and then they switch. rescuers are also making use of snowmobiles ferrying supplies to and from the crash site itself because there's a lot of snow at the crash site that the jet crashed into a field more trucks and very quickly and for a right really every hour heavier stuff the conditions of the crash site are pushed the this is all because of this though because of the worry and. obviously they want to get this crash site in order quickly here is another ambulance moved likely carrying the remains of another victim or perhaps victims judging by the frequency by which these are passing us immigration is proceeding

rapidly lugo's have also been describing what they've seen. my friend say the bomb was so loud said the windows almost shattered. i was watching t.v. and heard the band everyone heard the noise. yes i heard a loud cluck i was lining the whole badly to duck and my cats hid it was a really loud. i would see it sounded like an explosion our house bounced. reports initially were contradictory some people said that the aircraft was. on fire while in the air others described the huge explosion when it crashed about a kilometer from here. is clearing away the snow and the roads there's already been a lot of speculation a lot of discussion as to the potential possible causes of this crash good thing

this is the gate to say they'll be looking at everything from possible technical malfunctions to human error to weather conditions and it's probably best to let the men and women digging through the wreckage do their job and to give us a definitive conclusive answers to what caused this tragedy. the plane was on route to or a city close to the russian border with kazakstan it took off from domodedovo airport in the russian capital four minutes later though the plane came down near a village about sixty kilometers southeast of moscow. memorials are being set up across the orenburg region where sixty of the passengers came from some of the victims' relatives and friends learned of the tragedy while waiting for their loved ones to arrive but in a coffin of a report. the aircraft that crashed just outside moscow departed from this very airport the why did the base one of the three major air transport

hubs in the capital and after the tragedy remains foody operational but over in the small city of force the airport there tells a very different story the shock has paralyzed it most of the sixty five passengers on board of that plane were from that region dozens of family and friends were waiting for them there are scenes of absolute grief a speak will come to terms with what has happened emergency crews are present at the airport and psychologists are ready to help those trying to cope with their loss the passengers who were due to fly back to moscow in the crash aircraft are handing back their tickets and even here at this fast paced airports which is forced to keep moving this tragedy ask.