matthew decided to open the door so to speak and of course we had an influx tremendous influx in a short period of time until research seated in sort of good order and through that process. the most young people who tried to come to europe and germany really had reason to flee their own countries and in the process. more and more young people did not come because they had to flee but because they read wanted to come to europe and to germany and especially to enjoy the opportunities that that have risen in germany for a long period of time we had one of these processes in the sixty's and early seventy's mainly the sixty's when

a couple of when about two to three million immigrants if you want to call it that way from turkey from italy and spain but then from turkey came into germany because we needed. this time it is not an invitation to young people to come to germany but there was a resistance and there is a resistance within the book religion to have for immigration to germany because people were worried and this is one of the issues that he is playing on that the national character of germany might be changed to some way but mr been called i would agree with you that the a.b.c. is perhaps exploiting this issue too much but don't you think that part of the reason why they have been allowed to exploit it is also that the government hasn't had

a full discussion and open discussion of this extremely touchy subject because it's not just a moral issue as chancellor merkel likes to present it it's also a social issue it's an issue about how your country is going to look like for decades and decades and i when i say look like i don't mean the ask nick aspect of it but it's a serious decision and it's a serious policy change don't you think that that issue perhaps should have been discussed a little bit more with this society so that people wouldn't feel that migrants are being forced on them ever since the first measure of our going to america we are discussing it. it's not that the people are not as it's that that's maybe an impression in moscow but there's a very broad debate which has now subsided because an increasing part of the population is understanding that there is an economic

and social problem and social question is usually have a condom our own content so you cannot sit separate social and moral basic small issues well at mr been called we have to take a short break now but we will be back in just a few moments statement. apply for many clubs over the gays so i know the game inside god's. football isn't only about what happens on the pitch for the final school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the superman each of killian and bonus and spending through to the twenty million all plumb player. book it's an experience like

nothing else not to because i want to share what i think of what i know about the beautiful guy like great so what will transfer. and this is going to. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution two to crush the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be increasingly violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know we hear i mean i live with video and the bill is that i'm new school in the middle of the fall the ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four. of those who took part in this shit over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. politicians

to do something good to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. someone will want to press. you to go to the press this is like the full story in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters and the how. this should.

welcome back to worlds apart but we're getting called a better and german politician and former prime minister. mr putin called just before the break we were talking about let a ship and angela merkel has been in power for quite a long time almost as long as large an absolute sense that one of the benefits of staying in power for so long is obviously the experience but on the other hand there are multiple studies suggesting that one people stay in power for that long their perception of reality changes in many important ways you've been a political animal for most of the alive how long is too long for a head of state. if you has now had. has now three terms had three terms. if i would have asked her if she would have asked me i would say be very careful was trying to get

a force one the same problem arose was. cool and the the force he had was only really accepted because he had. two different blocks of terms. chance to decide. it divided germany and chancellor in a united germany. but if i were to. able to reform our constitution on that issue i would look very much to countries that have limited the election of person of individual to the top government position like in the united states where just one reelection is possible you can also have two maria lections but if you have a limitation then the government is almost forced

by the situation to think about the continuation through electing. people in the next term. you have more mobility now angela merkel and put in may have very different personalities but the political trajectories do you have certain overlaps both have been in power for quite some time and both now deal with the country's. going press following changes in germany it's the reintegration off migrants in russia its economic and hopefully political reforms do you think established leaders like that can change with the times in politics can you teach an all dog new. they don't change they have a political leader that has been in office a very long time usually feels that he has done everything well so he could

continue. and he's not very receptive to the idea that not the leader but for the general condition has changed much should change in response to the change in society you know that ties between that russia and germany have ever very long and perhaps a very complicated history and they certainly a big hit in two thousand and fourteen after the events in crimea and more broadly in ukraine do you think we will still see any improvement between our countries while i. live to move put in for that matter are in office so will we have to wait for somebody to replace them to a certain extent. both countries are interested and should be interested in relations. to have two or three objectives the most objective is to

maintain peace. jobless of conflicts may arise the second issue is. exchange and technological exchange but is specially trade trading between and there is a lot of trade third there is and must should be an offer to understand the differences. as have always been the relationship between russia and germany we have different histories way beyond back we have different philosophies we have different attitudes towards government and we have differences too. in the extent of participation of the population. in government issues so

we should learn why this is so and we should understand now you mentioned the issue of trade and i know that you come from east germany just last month we had leaders from five lands and is germany coming out with a statement saying that they are opposed sanctions against russia because they view them as both inefficient and unfair that point was that is germany is paying a much higher price for those sanctions than west germany do you think they have a point and do you think that voices are heard in berlin well i don't think you should put too much emphasis on these statements do have certain sanctions and we have considered them well and it is very difficult and of course vice versa would also russia would also try to influence the behavior of

germany and say restraint in trade and. commute forms of communication. i'm not a very good friend of sanctions but there are always some issues that one or the other country is trying by way of sanctions to change the attitude of the other party. and i don't think you can do it way of with that as to the size of germany german states in terms of population all of them the five of them have as much population the same size of bavaria. so that the five important but they certainly do not form. germany. so european. activities and trade feel now you mentioned the

sanctions one of the purposes of sanctions is that to change the behavior most of the german sanctions originate in russia's perceived behavior in crimea americal believes the borders should not be changed and perhaps i think it on some level even vladimir putin who will agree with her on that but the i'm sure you understand that for russia in crimea it was not only a matter of principle it was a matter of strategic security the expansion of nato the possibility of losing the the base in the black sea and those when you deal with strategic security it's very difficult to uphold principles even if you agree with that do you think russia could have played any other way alternatively do you think that russia is likely to . repeat what has happened in crimea this is

a very difficult question that i would have to say your vote because it reaches far beyond the issue of of sanctions that we have chests discussed. sanctions could be could be justified i'm just. as a business reservation in relationship to. the developments in ukraine or another border states. and as in the feeling of your or not germany alone of europe the development in. your career in your crane is considered to be unfortunate. the only the only way to ensure to put this. to put this to russia is not by just simply arguing but also. by.

introducing. corporations or. so solutions of conflict in this field so far they haven't been very successful. that well you know that the crimean issue at least for russia is closely linked to nato it's is for the expansion reach traces its roots back to german reunification and the promises. that's very made to moscow back down and that we're not necessarily saying is you know it's kind of promises have made that wasn't dead were not carried through while it is believed at least if this is an opinion in moscow that russia was promised that nato will not expand to the east.