i mean if this is the united states i mean it's interesting the area of northern syria there that's really serious all is ok and denying syria the ability to rebuild is when in fact you know telling the entire world that they will be sanctioned if you give money to the government in damascus to rebuild another round of sanctions against rebuilding a country that the united states is it has a great deal of responsibility for destroying in the first place go ahead in london well i believe the united states realized they were defeated in syria been a project in syria was completely defeated and russia got the upper hand. stage i mean it could be that the building of syria again so at least building needs money and syria needs the oil gaz which is and instead of that is where the oil fields are situated so it seems that america would like to prevent syria

prevent that action from actually putting their hands on the old reserves that is there so i don't think they will succeed here i have a lot of. information saying that the next stage could be actually their war against american forces in syria and also in iraq so if this happened like what happened after the american occupation of iraq in two thousand and three i think this would be the first stating to united states i believe russia wouldn't sacrifice its second if i says actually that heavy price which they paid in syria since two thousand and fifteen they. let me know that they wouldn't leave when we live in jeopardy we're going to go to a short break and i'd like to point out to everyone since the pentagon can do anything it wants because it has more money than god right now it is no longer a political issue in the united states that's a tragedy we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue with this. you know what's

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breath. but then my feeling started change you talked about war like it was again still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our ark and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral in the same as one enters my mind it's consumed with death this one to. speak to now because there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met him. make. things. welcome back to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing what's next for syria.

ok let me go back to mohammed into round i mean i started out by talking about this conference that's scheduled for istanbul that will turkey russia and iran mohamed it's really interesting what's going on with turkey here because again they're butting heads with the u.s. in northern syria and i'm not giving any of justification for the illegal invasion of syria by turkey but the interesting gambit that is being played out here is the two most important countries in nato are at odds with each other in a third country that has nothing to do with nato nato sphere of influence has put it that way. the interesting thing is that you see the turks are really looking at different options right now ok i'm not convinced the most reliable partner but a lot of people feel that way including nato and so we'll see i think we're seeing a real drift here i don't think turkey would give up nato they would want something

forward ok a lot of people are saying they're going to walk away and i know they'll leverage their way one way or another but that's really the changing shifting sands of what's going on because of this proxy war in syria go ahead and. well trump actually promised the turkish president the u.s. will stop funding the wife b.g. which is a carefully at a terrorist organization that's killed many turks and then almost immediately afterwards the military and the united states to make noise. we will continue to support. democratic forces which basically is a war. and peace. k. and so it's one wonders who's in charge example united states in this sort of reminds one of what happened in two thousand and sixteen when the u.s. administration and the u.s. secretary of state at that time he made an agreement with the russians and then

almost immediately afterwards as you order adulatory to bomb syrian government positions and they are those who are killing almost one hundred syrian soldiers and and immediately afterwards isis attacked their positions and took those positions as if they were. as if they knew what was about to happen so the united states is i think it's unclear who's in charge but we do know that trump has given the huge amount of authority to the military and the people in charge right now in the united states the sort of joint mcmaster calley and they're they're close friend. petraeus these people. they are revisionists alessa crook of congress conflicts forum the head of conflicts form wrote a very interesting article recently showing how these people maddest as well that these people are revisionists vietnam revisionists and they believe that if the

united states army had been the not armed forces had been given the authority to you know destroy north vietnam that they would have won the war and if it wasn't for the politicians and the military command the united states could have won so these are the sort of people with that sort of mentality and i think that that may partially be part of the reason why they're taking such a hard stand well it's in northern syria it's very i think a nobody but it's very very interesting there is it's very interesting though that it's harry truman would have given macarthur that kind of authority we would have had the third world war. you know if the general's report was a politician but it's a politician it's a wall and i think that's the case right now this is what. it will go tomorrow and beirut let's go a little bit closer to home to you there's a lot of open chatter right now with the israel's heighten involvement i mean it's you know what is that over the even the last year it is the legally. violated

syria's airspace and looks like now the syrians are not accepting that and they're making it very clear but there's a lot of talk chatter that israel is eyeing another war against hezbollah again fighting a war against lebanon and it seems this all kind of goes into it because that is the paradigm of hezbollah and iran that's their narrative right here interestingly enough you have the united states based in syria as well i mean all the puzzle pieces seem to be coming together go ahead in beirut. yes i definitely agree with that specially after the blow that was taken by the israeli occupation air force on saturday when the jet when the f. sixteen jet was downed by the syrian arab army over a syrian land i mean they were hoping for some kind of a war to start whether in the southern part of syria or with lebanon for that matter but after that ahead they are now thinking a thousand times before they do so even at dawn on thursday this week serve in the

strong was sent from israel into syrian territory and was also attacked by the syrian missile system i'm sorry the aircraft system and they fled they went back into palestinian occupied territories so now even a drone a survivor the strawman is not being able to go and attack the sovereignty of syria for that matter now when we talk about a possible war between hezbollah and the israeli entity i don't think that the front would be this time the southern part of lebanon the southern border with occupied palestine i think that the syrian golan heights would be the great place that we should all put our eyes into because first of all that's an occupied territory second of all it has been for the past six years at least where the resistance the armed forces of the resistance whether hezbollah or other allies have been putting their efforts in there to try and start some sort of a new front with the israeli entity because that's the front that israel is most a very tough. continue with syria here i mean

when we hear again from the trumpet ministration assad must go here i mean what does that mean is that the justification for the united states to say because of so that we started out the program in why does the united states want to stay in syria and not make peace in the leave like everybody wants to leave everyone including their sometimes on our friends in iraq go ahead in london. peter i agree with you there finitely that american military presence in syria and iraq actually is not the legitimate one now that syrians and the iraqi are calling for the americans to pull out their troops because they don't want them anymore simply because they where to fight the islamic state there is no more islamic state as they put it in that or as they were talking about now the situation is completely different about two weeks ago the israeli media was talking about some sort of

agreement between the united states and israel to destabilize iran and syria and it seems that that downing of the israeli f. sixteen s on this on the syrian after the sit in that attack actually it means that it is a clear message from russia to the united states to israel that we are not going to go ahead with this plans to destabilize so it's nice to have allies iran and syria so i think that american will face a huge trouble as a russia as last year now is strong there and russia has the upper hand in syria turkey is standing against america saying that you stopped us in the back you will see you not five times more vietnam experience and syria and in the region so it's the syria now actually threatening that any israeli warplanes violated their

airspace will be shut down so i believe it is it is tension but that the three major power superpower in the region iraq turkey sorry. tacky and the russia they are actually waiting for the american to do something stupid and i believe when hezbollah got about a hundred and fifty thousand missiles and we don't know how many. thousands or one hundred thousand. and that on arsenal or in the theater i believe that there is huge now we have to wait for ideas to confidence and it will be in this field but i think also that the two the two tripping points the tipping points that i'm worried about is israel attacking lebanon again i mean if you listen to israeli military officials active duty and retired it's full on the airwaves of course is never reported in western media never report it never hear about that mohammad let me go

go to you i mean if you look at the israeli criticism and justification for its violation of syrian airspace the most recent spat it's all because iran has bases supplies there they are if it was if syria doesn't even exist ok but of course it doesn't exist in the minds of of israeli foreign policy makers it doesn't at all there are no sovereign countries around israel there's places where you could go metal but that's what when i looked at the response and of course it was echoed like a stir in washington d.c. they said exactly the same thing as the israelis but it's really directed against iran and. adel said something a few minutes ago waiting for the americans to do something stupid well the stupid thing would be in conjunction with israel attacking around go ahead. well the israelis like to use iran as a scapegoat to justify their aggression on neighboring countries and also subjugate

the palestinian people is very similar to what it's for apartheid regime in south africa used to do when they were demonized they end the now and then they end they were communists and in the west they passed laws against them too in the united states they in theory was a terrorist organization and so was president mandela when he was president the law wasn't changed so when he would go to the united nations general assembly he'd have to get special permission the present. south africa to enter the country because he was the head of. a terrorist organization so that's by using communism apartheid south africa a person with those policies against neighboring countries in the end of the african majority the black majority and israeli regime the apartheid regime just the same but i think there is a big difference now today than before first of all israel israel does not have the mabel superiority that it had before its its trade is vulnerable to missiles from

in the mediterranean its air superiority is questionable and i personally think that there are there are more advanced surface to air missiles out there that are being kept under lock and key in on the ground israelis have lost the war to hezbollah before and this time around you have syria two you have gaza and you have many people the people from the popular mobilization force in iraq who would come to the aid of syria and hezbollah there if there is a war and the government in lebanon unlike before is that supports the resistance in southern lebanon so i don't think it is go at all a winnable war and they can do or or i wouldn't rule it out to be much more devastating time but with what we've discussed in this program is certainly in the shifting sands in the region many thanks to my guests in london beirut and in iran and thanks to our viewers for watching us here dark you see in x. time and remember.

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the u.s. indicts thirteen russian nationals over at ledge to online meddling in the twenty sixteen presidential election which will go calls. u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson visits turkey in an attempt to improve relations between the nato allies as tensions grow in syria over washington support for kurdish groups that turkey considers terrorists. and an american literature who won the silver medal in south korea's launch the russian rival who offered in his sledge as the olympic spirit is embraced by competitors from around the world at the winter games. brazil specific russian athletes he offered me help technical help the fact that he was willing to reach out and help me in such like

a desperate time shows that sport can bridge you know cultures it can bridge politics. you know watching on t.v. international broadcasting live from moscow i'm kate partridge thank you for joining us. our top story this hour the u.s. justice department has indicted thirteen russian nationals over and meddling in america's twenty sixteen presidential election however deputy attorney general rod rosenstein says these charges don't mean any alleged russian meddling altered the election's outcome artie's caliber weapon reports. it's being widely reported that these individuals thirteen russian individuals as well as three russian entities are being charged with meddling in the us election but if you actually read the

indictment there are specific charges there is no such crime under the u.s. federal laws known as meddling at this point they're being charged with conspiracy to defraud the united states as well as violations of the federal elections commission is act and the foreign agents registration act essentially it's alleged that these thirteen people as well as three entities purchased advertisements on social media and gaged in some banks transactions and tried to influence the elections of the united states they supposedly were disparaging ellery clinton and favoring donald trump this is just the latest in the ongoing bob muller special counsel investigation being conducted by the department of justice into allegations that trump allegedly colluded with russia during the presidential elections and that russia is somehow responsible for the election results and now at this point there has already been testimony before the u.s. congress about the impact of these alleged facebook ads and how they may have

determined the elections this is some of what we heard before the u.s. congress showing that the impact of these ads may not be as broad as some of the mainstream media reports seem to hand. the film portals into our society russia has harnessed the tremendous and quite frankly to me frightening power of social media there. used to be very dos and discredit her democracy very or using our own social networks our friendships or family use and our biases and a few points against us. requirement for. we determine the number of accounts we could bring to russia and that we're tweeting election related content was comparatively small.

aggregate these ads and post were a very small fraction of the overall content on facebook but any amount is too much . these videos mostly hand move you count. now the indictments serve almost as defacto sanctions against the individuals and entities listed while these individuals what we apprehended in russia and taken to the usa they certainly won't be traveling to the united states they'll be unable to set up bank accounts and such so these are almost serving as defacto sanctions we do have a response to today's indictments from the spokesperson for the russian foreign

ministry tends out there with thirteen of them according to the u.s. justice department fifteen people were mentioning in the us that action against the billions on the budgets of the intelligence agencies against the intelligence counted teligent against the state of the art technology upset yes but this is america's move to political reality by the way why things he apparently that's the only number with bob this initiations announce that only hope at this point we also have a response from the president of united states donald trump who earlier was briefed by the department of justice prior to their releasing of this indictment now donald trump stated on twitter he said russia started their anti us campaign in two thousand and fourteen long before i announce that i would run for president the results of the election were not impacted and the trump campaign did nothing wrong and he repeated the phrase often used throughout the process he repeated the phrase ending his tweet with no collusion furthermore we had. a statement from the white

house press secretary on behalf of the white house in which they urged americans to unite against what they called bad actors saying that americans must unite to protect the integrity of democracy and elections urging urging urging folks to not focus on the divisions of the allegations of collusion rather focus on uniting against russia so at this point now we have also heard in russian media there has been a response from the individual named in the indictment and called kind of the mastermind the first individual listed in the indictment has responded saying that americans are very impressionable and that if you want to find a devil it's easy to find one so this is this is a wide ranging response from from the world that we've heard from trump we've heard from the individuals indicted we've heard from the russian foreign ministry everyone responding to this move by the u.s. department of justice. well to discuss this further let's cross knives now to

robert naiman policy directed the media outlet just policy robert thank you very much indeed for joining us well donald trump has tweeted the alleged russian meddling started long before his campaign and the result wasn't affected i mean will this make a difference to his opponents who think russia didn't sway the election. well there are people who have already committed to a certain rove who probably that's not going to be effective certainly people who want to put forward the russia russia russia story many of them will see this is vindication they won't care really what the details are as has been widely pointed out and as the justice department so put out in describing it damon isn't showing me. anyone in the united states. campaign or indeed any american it was they themselves said there is no evidence

that any of the americans involved had any idea that they were involved with these alleged russians nor is it being alleged as far as i've seen that this was. this lynch activity was directed by russian government supposed to russian private citizens again this is an enticement not only prediction of the u.s. system it means that a threshold has been met for. taking a case to trial doesn't even. prove. but the key thing isn't that in the broader story there's no there's no indication for the russia sold election story there's no indication that. these activities had any great impact. in also one thing i think is missing from context in the in the broader media here . you know yes there are. trolls electronic

trolls in russia there's also electronic trolls in saudi arabia it's not obvious why there should be such an exclusive focus on russian trolls or attempts of russian to influence us elections or u.s. politics as opposed to other countries like saudi arabia united arab emirates israel you know these countries have huge influence operations and washington's been throwing lots of money around. chinese government saudi arabian the u.a.e. pushing their war in yemen through their funded think tanks like the middle east institute all these things should concern us at least as much. as alleged russian attempts to. involve itself in the in the last year or so large were also rather sorry to interrupt i mean do you think the timing of this is coming sudan plumbing considering these indictments were released right after the

f.b.i. issued a statement on its failure to investigate the florida shitter. i think that is probably coincidence. you know i don't have any reason to think otherwise things these are both things that needed to happen and. the. they have been on the same day well ok. the it would have been worse for the f.b.i. if they immediately yesterday that they missed the tip on a florida shooter because no one strike the afternoon of the three a weekend that's not generally considered to be a great time to release new score it's a great time to release news if you want to bury it in there and also the document claims the indicted individuals who are carrying out operations to disparage hillary clinton in favor of donald trump i mean do you think this is aimed at discrediting the trumpet ministration. well they're not.