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and i would like to get back to or instead of worrying about what could happen ten years from now what could happen if russia gets tossed out of the united states we should focus instead on how do we continue to build on that positive and cooperative relationship but i wonder why it's not happening is what you're saying is wonderful and i wish you were secretary of defense or head of nato today because times have changed and so unfortunate i always see right now is ramping up its defense expenses in response to a threat from china and russia when russia's military budget is seventeen times smaller than american military budget america's spending more money on its military than the next eight countries taken together why why how can it still feel insecure . i am very sure and with this increasingly hostile relationship building up to trying it between the united states or my own view is that the cause of it is coming from both nations there's actions and
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statements made by russia as well as actions statements made by the way some of them are response to each other we ought to somehow find a way of turning that around looking at the for that seeing the worst in each side's trying to see the best and. and that's i said we have a history of working together pardoning cooperate cooperate we know we can do it and i'd like to see it get back to that and i think it's going to take changes in attitudes and changes in statements and changing positions both in the russian government and the american government for that to happen i'm not pleased today with the positions taken by other government to pair are going to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to dr william perry a former u.s. defense secretary talking about russia u.s. relations and what's going to happen with north korea stay with us.
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and we're back with dr william perry a former united states to secretary perry and then there's the sanctions business despite congress specifically passing the russian sanctions trub actually chose not to enact them but instead he unveiled a list of who is in kremlin and who is still in the russian business so i don't know how you see but we thought that maybe he was kind of making fun of congress there. i'm not pleased with that list but i have a few read nor read the list but you read the statement with it it makes specific statement and there's nothing listen these people there's nothing they've done nothing there's nothing the line about we intend to take notice that we have no plans to put sanctions on them it's very specific that this is. just in response at the request of congress made i don't agree with many things the trouble ministration is but i think their action on that this was very wise where they
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explicitly stated that this is not a list and. these people. well the current congress which is pretty hostile towards russia white house which is last hostile to russia do u.s. russia relations stand any chance honestly speaking or to they have to come back this is silly what's going on right now. i agree that the actions taken by the congress today and particular on the sanction list. made no real sense but i also observe they were not actually moving towards more aggressive actions to each other it's. i would like to see a much better relations and everything that the united states and russia are doing and i hope we can get to that point but in the meantime we should not be
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misinterpreting things like that so-called sanction that was really not sanctioned this was just a list of names i would also like to see statements made by our leaders both the russian leaders on american leaders be more moderate and be focused more on the positive aspect of our relationship but i do believe we will get through this. i think. we have a history of positive relationship there's no reason why we can't get back to that relationship again in the many many reasons why we should not pursue this negative track we are today we and by we i mean both the united states and russian governments i don't i'm not pleased with what's have you what are the government is doing. dr perry you have said that with emergence of malicious hackers we are now in greater danger than accidental nuclear war than during the cold war i mean i agree that technology brings along
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a new threats but defense systems have become much more sophisticated as well you know i mean how can they still be very vulnerable to external attacks being sophisticated doesn't mean they're not vulnerable to attack in fact the more complexity a system has the more different avenues it has for failure the bigger and more complex the system is the more points of failure you might find in the system so i am not at all in fact when i talked with our. generals about our warning system at the north american air defense command they say we're relieved we're not so much worried as you are because our systems are old fashioned they don't have the the openings for vulnerabilities that some modern systems have they're not open to being hacked for example. so being modern in complex is not necessarily meaning being better the important thing i think is not the different complexity of our systems or the village attack it's recognizing that any system no matter how modern
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no matter how simple how complex and the system is volatile mistake that they seem to do fail humans make errors as long as that happens we have to be sure that our political system doesn't respond falsely to those errors so the important thing is to. move away from the position where we believe we have to launch or the russian government believes it has to launch on a warning but instead of willing to step back and say why would the russians launch missiles or the russia there why would the americans launch missiles at us and once you understand the answer that question they wouldn't do it then you're not so apt to make a mistake so if you machines fail if you whom humans feel the political system has to use good judgment i state this must be a mistake we're not going to respond to it but i still wonder about the technical side of the i have to ask you mean this is just mind boggling to me that so many years on and it still just takes one person and one push of
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a button to blow up half of the world and their machines malfunction and even the more complex they are the most likely they are to malfunction in some respect humans are humans to humans there and so any system that depends on machines never failing or humans never and is a bad system we have to have a system that dissipates there will be failures and acts accordingly and that means you have to have safeguards building in your decision process that accommodate the possibility of machine failures or human furious. as you were a policy coordinator on the north korean nuclear problem and even one on that historic visit to pyongyang in ninety nine and i know that your diplomatic efforts almost result is in six aspects than until it went sour again what is it that the current us administration is doing wrong what north korea
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i think really is where north korea is working right now they are moving forward with an i.c.b.m. program moving forward of the nuclear program the nuclear program even includes thermo nuclear weapons so they are putting together very. substantial threat in the face of international opposition in the face of un resolutions of the contrary that's the problem we're faced with today and the question is how do we deal with the politically and my understanding of the north korean suggests that while i'm concerned about the nuclear weapons program i do not believe they have any intentions of using those offensively against any other country. they are not suicidal. they're not seeking martyrdom they're seeking to protect their country against an attack in other words if they see the nuclear weapons as being for deterrence. the danger there is not that they will use the weapons the dangers with
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that there was a blunder into a war with them and that danger is a very good danger i think it's very important that the united states in dealing with north korea understand that they're not intending the use of more fancily but we could trigger and that we could mistakenly take an action which triggers a response so we have to be very careful in dealing with north korea but we should not delude ourselves into thinking that they're tending to fire those missiles at us. there is a lot of hope right now about the resumed talks between the two koreas and there recently i spoke to the south korean president advisor and what he told me is that the only thing that north korea really wants is to tom directly to the united states do you think america should be talking directly to north korea maybe a lot of good things could come out of it i think that's quite possible when. i
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went to north korea ninety nine that was true they wanted to speak to the united states we had very constructive discussions then we had an agreement. the basis for an agreement by which they would give up all the nuclear weapons and all the long range missiles and then i think we might have been able to pursue that and i don't think we can achieve that today it's too late to get back to a negotiation to get them to go to the nuclear weapons at this time we have to focus on what we have to do to deter the use of those nuclear weapons and then the diplomacy we use here should be focused on how do we lower the danger of the nuclear weapons if we think we're going to have a diplomacy to get allows them to get rid of the by which they get rid of the nuclear weapon i think we are deluding ourselves they have them they like them they're going to keep them trumps rhetoric i mean he's so-called bloody nose preemptive strike on north korea. it's not very dangerous when you
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just hear that but it could have some consequences no i think first of all it would be dangerous to conduct a preemptive strike i mean fully opposed to doing that but i also think it's somewhat dangerous to even threaten to do it because if north korea really believes we're about to conduct a preemptive strike on them is going to be significant in a serious preemptive strike that may. they may be. motivated to make it to try to beat us to the blood to have their own first strike so it's very important to keep the rhetoric down as well as keeping our military we have a very capable defensive military capability and north korea and we can be confident about that but we should not be threatening military action that could lead to undesirable consequences when it comes to north korea we hear secretary masses actually talking diplomacy it's trump that's talking war carefully yet do you think
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the defense secretary has enough elaborates on trump to actually prevent him from doing anything i can you know where your personal relationship is but it is certainly true that if the president wants to take military action on north korea he has to take it through secretary trub i mean secretary brothers so i have a lot of confidence and secondly it's after him as he's very. experienced and very. cautious about the use of military power he has and he's not reckless at all so i. guess it gives me a good feeling dr priest thank you very much for this wonderful inside our shell the best thank you come back to us and our.
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the u.s. indicts thirteen russian nationals over alleged online meddling in the twenty sixteen presidential election and decision moscow calls absurd. u.s. secretary of state rex tillerson visits turkey in an attempt to improve relations between the nato allies as tensions grow in syria over washington support for kurdish groups that turkey considers terrorists. and an american illusion who won the silver medal in south korea launched the russian rival who offered him his sled as the olympic spirit is embraced by competitors from around the world at the winter games. brazil specific russian athlete he offered me hope for technical help the fact that he was willing to reach out and help me in such like a desperate time shows that sport can bridge you know cultures it can bridge politics
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. r.t. dot com has the full story on those and all the latest headlines while here we're talking international the big picture is all new and coming up next. another week and more thoughts and prayers this doesn't happen in any other country and this week it happened again. i'm holland cook in washington this is the big picture on r t america. as of this valentine's day massacre the gun violence archive has thirty mass
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shootings and twenty eighteen and it's still february and twenty seventeen there were three hundred forty six in the usa grab a pen we're going to tell you how you can make a difference in just a few minutes but first half a world away misery and gaza and scandal in israel r.t. america's on the apparent pill is on the scene. high on your thank you for being here and the work you're doing very this week is conspicuous while the other cable news channels are obsessing on the rob porter scandal you're covering a story there that the mainstream media seems barely aware of here put us on the ground in gaza what is life like there now. thanks for having me on holland. i've followed the situation here from where you're sitting in the united states for
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years now but nothing compared to coming and witnessing the situation in the gaza strip with my own eyes it's unlike anything you can read or even see on the camera . is undeniably an open air prison of entire population two million people are trapped in this tiny strip just to get through i had to have permission obviously from the israeli government but then you feel like you're entering a prison because to to meet our fixer on the other side we had to walk through a long metal cage the gate ones are on the palestinian side and on either side of you for miles you see. wall a border wall built by the israelis to keep palestinians locked inside there's a remote control machine gun on the top of the wall which they aim at protesters which come every friday to demonstrate against their conditions there and there's
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a drone hovering right above from the moment you walk in as for this is you asians are people there are holland you know in two thousand and fourteen there was a devastating. war the israelis destroyed over one hundred thousand homes and killed over there around two thousand five hundred people including five hundred children and surprisingly almost sixty percent of those homes have been clear the rubble has been cleared and the rebuilding process has started but it's almost as though that's not even really what matters the situation in terms of just getting electricity is impossible israel bombed gaza's main electricity planned several years ago and they've been unable to to rebuild. it so people there now only have four hours electricity of electricity every twelve hours hotels like the one i stayed in are lucky enough to have generators but average
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people in gaza don't they don't have the luxury of something like that i just to get to an interview with r.t.e. had to wait downstairs for almost ten minutes to get someone to turn on the generator just so the elevator would work and we wouldn't have to walk up thirteen flights of stairs to get to a studio. basic goods aren't allowed in people aren't getting medical treatment a report was released this week documenting over fifty cases of gaza residents who died last year because they were denied a permit to leave and they don't have the ability to offer palestinians radiation therapy in gaza because the israelis don't let this equipment in it's the deliberate punishment of the entire population and to accept this you would have to believe that every man woman and child that i met there according to the israelis is a terrorist and after seeing it but it sounds extreme you already can see something
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like that it's not true but once you go there and meet these people for yourself it really hits home because it's just not something that i think anyone would accept. they say timing is everything in luck favors the well prepared and as you were there covering story a this whole scandal with benjamin netanyahu has broken out he's defiant about the corruption charges that the police are leveling against him how does this change the equation well so far it may not change the equation just because at this point all that's come out as a recommendation from the israeli police that netanyahu should be indicted in two cases of corruption one which says he. accuses alleges he cut a deal with the head of a major israeli paper to restrict circulation of a competitor in exchange for favorable favorable coverage is coverage of him and
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then in the in the other case he's accused of accepting lavish gifts such as cigars and champagne so that he would support basically tax cuts for wealthy israelis at this point it's in the hands of israeli attorney general mendel belleek to make a formal indictment against netanyahu though this is an individual who has political ambitions of his own and is part of netanyahu inner circles so talking to people here they're afraid that even with this recommendation from the police israelis wonder well the general may be dirty himself or not willing to. indict netanyahu someone who he's very close to and arabs and palestinians i speak to here could really care less about. corruption charges against netanyahu because . well i spoke with one member of the israeli knesset actually
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a palestinian member. jamal's the hulk who told me it's kind of like catching. al capone for tax evasion because palestinians would like to see netanyahu tried for crimes he's committed for example in a place i visited in the gaza strip which was completely decimated by the israeli army multiple times under netanyahu is watch what are the politics behind all of this meaning what drives. the israelis to put palestinians in gaza in this position well it's a it's a good question hollande as i said i've studied this issue for a while i've read books for example like jimmy carter's palestine peace not apartheid i was aware that. nelson mandela himself has characterized the system in his and while he was alive characterize the system here as apartheid and
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now i've come and see it for myself that's what drives that's the politics that drives these policies holland it's the fact that israel wants to maintain an ethnic purity meaning it needs to be a jewish state while i was here the israeli justice minister minister islet shock and said we need to maintain this jewish majority even if it means we disregard human rights and that's clearly what's happening and it's not just palestinians in gaza who suffer palestinians in the west bank suffer as well. you know had this incredible man who was my fixer took me all around the west bank he told me a story about how for example he has he showed me this beautiful land he has in the west bank and he tried to plan olive trees there a few years ago and the illegal jewish settlers came and burned it within days destroying our land and it's all in an effort to make life unlivable for the city and so that they leave and that israel can maintain its jewish identity across the
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land sank you are to use an apparent kill troubleshoot. this week's black history month salute is stuff unsung medical miracle workers inoculation was introduced to america by a slave only some of us is thought to have been born in africa in the late seventeenth century before cameras and before he eventually landed in boston he spoke of in knockhill ation which had been practiced in africa for centuries today we an ocular late with a hypodermic needle back then what was scraped from the infected person was scratched into the skin of a healthy person rendering him.
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