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god either onshore and let our un force how many people like five on the third floor. today look like students it was one teacher and four students. so to do call the fire drill we want our side boom boom boom boom marriage gunshot i doze firecrackers but other lash out like oh. oh oh yeah. i'd. like to come in bring a gun to shoot at school you like start taking your family i love you because you
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never know i guess charge are these go we're not good describe how you feel because at that moment you're wondering what if my kid if he or casey say i am doing the shooting and many of the students were holed up inside classrooms posting distressing messages online we managed to speak to police elaine ik student in the school at the time. world. about to leave school those years before the bell we're supposed to and. we're starting so it's. like the school. and cry because it's not a fire drill it goes all grab and it's first like everybody still thought it's going to feel like they grew out of the they do in the schools but then we just here are the people started talking about life. is short you know like in the next
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village and. stuff i already got and this is serious. world as it all those will be on the floor like so nobody can see us and all that stuff like not to be on our phones and. it's like also when we realize this for you know we would just like for it waiting at some point they came and they told us like thirty minutes later this all goes well everything was clear around but like we're not going to let you out like right now because we need to do you know the school everybody was just trying to reach out of their friends and their family. world how much harm i just like feel very kind of lost because like i don't know what will i call it sort of like so stuff because like it's just never happened so me and i just don't think they're
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going to school is going to be like the same up there with. police have identified the suspect as nicholas cruz the nineteen year old former student of the school who was expelled for disciplinary reasons piece said he was with a semi automatic rifle and had multiple magazines cruz has confessed to police he carried out the shooting he's been in. charged with seventeen counts of premeditated murder fellow students described the suspect as troubled it's been reported teachers were warned about him some time ago given his enthusiasm for firearms and significantly the f.b.i. and the police have admitted they had received two paths about the gunman long before the attack but failed to investigate. we have covered at the broward sheriff's office where we had approximately twenty calls for service over the last two years regarding the killer the f.b.i.
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has a chairman there protocol was not followed. if the patient was not provided by me. in no further investigation was conducted that. we've seen time and time again over the last few years our intelligence agencies across the west dropping the ball in terms of getting tips being aware of potential threats and not following up on those threats and you take out the sense of measures it seems lessons not being learned they need to have a proper view about you know what exactly are the threats what are they trying to do how can they best protect the people of their country to protect against these threats and that doesn't seem to be done in a tweet president trump slammed the f.b.i.'s mishandling of the tipoffs about the shooter he suggested the blame lies with the intelligence agency because it dedicates too much time to the investigation into alleged russian collusion of which he added there was none. this week the first legal cases were brought regarding the alleged russian meddling in the twenty six thousand presidential
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election all those targeted were indicted with a conspiracy to defraud the u.s. and we will have all the details on that story later on in the program. still to come on the week the u.s. joins in the debate over a far leisel fight is returning to their home countries. by. looking at value surveys russians aren't so different from the european neighbors when it comes to individual rights and freedoms however they do have a very low tolerance for uncertainty in politics that translates into a strong electoral advantage for the incumbent making power transitions rare and precarious what would it take for russians to stop playing it safe politically.
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practices the oppressive measures being deployed against the palestinian people everywhere the. theft and the. devastating things that they are doing of course the cool. and. welcome back to the weekly the u.s. is joining in the course of growing concern coming out of europe of a foreign eisel fight is returning to their home countries washington has urged its allies particularly britain to pay more attention to citizens who fled europe to join the terror group the u.k.'s defense secretary has previously said they should
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not be allowed to return home i don't think they should ever set foot in this country again they turned their back on britain our values and everything we stand for they are the worst of the worst. we are working with the coalition on foreign fighter detainees and generally expect these detainees to return to their country of origin for disposition at present i saw terrorists of u.k. origin who return home do face prison sentences while other european countries have tried to integrate the former militants back into society in denmark for example x. jihadists have even received apartments and jobs to promote reintegration. we put the issue of how to deal with returning to harvest up for debate. initially britain said we're going to make them stateless remove their passports not going to allow them reentry other countries then said let's take a more light approach some of the nordic nations said let's try to repatriate them have cut radicalization programs which in part have actually been quite successful
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in some areas at the same time then the u.s. is now taking the lead and the u.s. defense said foreign countries need to repatriate their own citizens and deal with them using the rule of law and i think that's a sensible way to go we should not come back here it's as simple as that because they've committed the crimes abroad so why should the taxpayers foot the bill for all this rehabilitation and all the short probably they do in jail for quite a while that cost more when these crimes are being committed aboard let the authorities deal with them under the rule of law in them. you know there are lots of different stories about what happens to these people if we make them stateless stenciling they will stay out there they will keep breeding extremism terrorism and radicalization and they'll keep killing and they'll keep hating us so we have it's a problem have to deal with you can't hide from it you cannot fall back on this british passport so you know i committed atrocities abroad but all for we british passport into the mix so we get sent back oh no how do we know people have
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committed crimes without putting the evidence in front of them and putting them on trial just assume people went out there so i don't want to go out of here in london and regularly on trial i'd like to go on my own regularly cause well these are obviously the the u.n. is so weak it's laughable the you again is so weak just nonexistent the should have . should have at the un peacekeeping forces making safe and so we could properly categorize these people rather than these people go into fight for whichever side these people fight. against but now because they fight for the kids to be classed here it becomes a ridiculous situation. nearly a hundred members. craney and ultra nationalist right wing organization have thrown eggs and stones at the building of a russian agency which administers civilian foreign aid in kiev they claim their goal is to stop its work it came during
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a demonstration against russia on route to the protesters also stopped outside a branch of the russian banks pair bank and threw stones at it the buildings windows that were left shattered and the leader of the demonstration called for the bank to be totally destroyed another russian bank alpha bank was also targeted although police were present at the present arrests that have been made it comes just a day after dozens of ukrainian nationalists tore down a russian flag russia's federal agency and set it on fire. the u.s. justice department has indicted thirteen russian nationals and three companies in connection with alleged meddling in america's twenty sixteen presidential election but as there's no such criminal offense in the u.s. as meddling the defendants were charged with conspiracy to defraud the united states among the three enterprises indicted is the st petersburg based internet
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research agency which is accused of conspiring to sow political discord and the other is a catering company which is suspected of having helped fund the whole scheme the thirteen defenders allegedly used methods ranging from organizing political rallies to posing as grassroots activists some of their reported methods though were off the wall for example driving a hillary clinton impersonator dressed as a convict in a cage in the back of a truck they also allegedly bought facebook ads to promote a rally titled support hillary save american muslims but despite the lengths they apparently went to these ploys were said to have had zero impact. there is no one elevation in the indictment that the charged conduct alter the outcome of the twenty sixteen election they wanted to quote so discord by. breaking into elections no stealing the numbers no changing the numbers no voter
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fraud no vote by merely providing information through advertisements thirty listings and social media accounts that were shared by americans the only ins of dollars that have been involved in the russian investigation so far special constable council muller has indicted for people for that that's all he has to show and so far nothing has been done let me remind you that we still don't know what russian collusion is we still don't know because deputy attorney general rosenstein today made it very clear that there was no evidence that anything that these russians or any russians did russian nationals or people who speak russian or people in the russian government but there is no evidence that any of this affected
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the election whatsoever isn't that fascinating and if it didn't affect the election what's the point of this. here's a reminder of our breaking news story at this hour four people have been killed and several injured in a shooting in russia's southern region of dagestan the incident took place at a folk festival when a gunman opened fire with a hunting rifle at a group of people leaving church thoughts according to the interior ministry the shooter who was identified as a twenty two year old local man was killed and we will of course bring you more information on this story as soon as we get it. i'll be back at the top of the hour with also do stay with us.
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join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics small business i'm show business i'll see you then. the last sell you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the chicken hawks forcing you to fight the battle for food still. to stop for the tell you that somebody gossip the tabloids myself or your. mother often advertising how they think you are not cool enough to buy their products. these are the hawks that we along the border worth watching. in america a college degree requires a great deal. a decades long. study
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so hard it requires. going through humiliation to enter and it lead society. sometimes quite literally. want other true colors of universities in the us. the welcome to worlds apart when you look at value certain race russians are not that much different from their european neighbors when it comes to individual rights and freedoms except for one thing they have every long tolerance of
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uncertainty politically that translates into a strong electoral benefit to the incumbent making power transitions in russia a precarious will russians or stop playing safe politically all to discuss that i'm now joined by admitted with call for a russian opposition politician and a former member of parliament mr it's good to talk to thank you very much for your time now you're not running in the russian presidential elections but i think you may have contributed more to voters in gauging and then some of the candidates are really appreciated the program that you created in the listing citizens or voters as monitors which i think really helps to energize the base but why do you think projects like this capacity building projects democratic projects like this so rare in russia. that there is a new threat or is it to produce a big. in the election and if we don't thing that it's a real elections because you know one of the. critics at least in the army
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just was bound to purchase a billion there's elections there is a serious police in the position so. i said i want to launch an electoral campaign to break all those elections i soon that we need to support those cordons critics who will be in the belak list so or try to unite the people from different strategists into the project we would like to organize overs in moscow in order to provide every polling stations with at least two worse in moscow of the three thousand five hundred polling stations and we would like to recruit seven thousand people to more new tour elections in order to create a big political force for the future elections in moscow i'm going to run them the way relations and i am going to lead those people yeah you know the way you phrase it you pursue obviously a personal goal but what i find actually far more important is the citizens and
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gauge of it because in russia politics is still about getting votaries we should i think is a rather primitive very limited form of political persistent patient being monetarists requires a much bigger commitment it's just fourteen hours of monitoring on the election day plus all day education the training that goes into that in my view that's much more important for democracy than where there are no if you will actually and yes of course because all these people will be involved in the politics it will be very important for the future elections for all democrats who are positioned leaders in our country so we will need to work of the grassroots level and this will help us to win sometimes maybe in two thousand and twenty two on big because the main goal of the opposition to be represented in the parliament. after two thousand and twenty one the we're creating and we're trying to create a big political force in order to go to unite all people who want political force
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and political parties now it's very well known statistically people in urban areas well differently from people in the countryside or in the national republics and it is believed that the number of voter fraud is much higher in the countryside done in moscow now you said that you have a very clear political interest in moscow that's why you're doing that from a democratic point of view when it has made my job better sounds to go to the regions and it drives the base there rather than staying in moscow where already people are quiet in gauge politically there is another. we should to normalize people and be suitors we need to go to them to come to the polling station to go with we need to raise a turnout on big cities where we have more chances to win that's why we decided to work in more school and voters. so we
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come to the municipal campaign in moscow we have two hundred sixty seven independent deputies we have majority and seventeen districts in moscow. two thousand and ninety and we will have a municipal campaign in some pictures of earth so we will try to repeal this. city as i think that campaign was actually groundbreaking and many will give the credit to you whether or not they support your idea logically but i read in one of the interviews that you while you were helping in selecting those people who are running for the minister knowledge if you ask them questions about what they think russia's policy in ukraine and what they what is their stance on crimea why on earth do you need something like that why do you need to bring big politics into that rather than focusing on that capacity building and the gys in the base isn't it more and. what and to the point when they were asked for it why why then he asked them about their views on foreign policy because as you know i was sometimes a member of
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a just russia and i know what happened to this part to. this party has been destroyed. and there will there was a serious pollute between people who supported putin and who wanted to oppose pooja that's why we decided to support only those candidates single minded people are people who share the same values we support of those people who want to restore relations with the west with support of those people who. want to have a democracy in our company a people and didn't use a pallet just need to take care of the yards of the local the russian authorities all of that they don't deal with ukrainian issues etc why don't you need to why don't you support and educate people off any political persuasion because we we want to unite people with the same values with the same ideas and it's very important because a today they have all like lego for florida's but they want changes not only in the
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district not only in more school they want changes for russia. to more room there will be united in the political party that you share into saying well yes and it's very important for us but people who support cushion and people who support you may actually have the same values in having the rule for him having local in gage meant in having. you know corruption compay in but why did you give all i've been it's impossible. because. i count most people supporting who put two will be members of our political party well here i am with the example just as i told you before the beginning of this program i recorded it into your monitoring program but i'm more or less pushing but i do believe and i think i've been to some of the training that your party has organized a list of those you're exceptional no no not at all there are
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a lot of people of many ages of many political persuasions what actually are interested in making sure that those elections are conducted in a free and fair manner in accordance with the law as you see there is really high during the end some so super in the media absolutely yes but who is for that how can you support pushing. that in this case you should share my i will use some way to use and support with a good call for my support of jimmy i do want to get a preview of the some super media but it's not about the values when you deal with the country you deal with the current problems and i agree that the t.v. environment the media environment in russia is constrained but i don't think it was i think that you were for the independent court system right absolutely of course i don't for the independent courts and i'm sure glad you put in a independent learners is only the new clothes you support of these scams with usually legislation that gives him the authority to appoint judges for example so
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it's not a vote independent core system. there are about of changes for russia well i don't think he appoints those judges and gives them that permission to be pliable to outside pressure i think on a number of occasions he also talked about the need to reform that system and in fact from what i know he has actually just initiated the ad in the other justice reform that was long advocated by alexei kudrin they're well known liberal and i'm sure the person who you'll share some values with so there is all. always and work all hour of their lives to cauldron is going even the member of the government appears still very influential what do you think it will do me and very influential well if the person in his program was accepted as a blueprint for reform doesn't mean it was are you going to remember what you manage to carry out if you if you look at the polls their latest other polls show that there is a strong demand for change in russia i think you would agree on that and even put
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it would agree on that but i think the way this demand for change manifest itself in this country is people saying we wait for the changes we want the authorities to make the changes to remember that famous song by a victorian soit we are waiting for the changes rather than saying we are to change and there is a fundamental difference between these two positions where you place the authority but they replace it with the the government or with yourself and that thing be changed about russia people's expectations of who will be there are running the country whether it is the government or whether it is that. i think that people don't like to take risks they want to just but they want to take risks and i don't believe them the figures of the polls because i can give you some interesting facts about russian polls for example according to the polls putin has said. to one percent of support things that i'm so lonely they're also mentioned i don't believe
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all those figures because according to the same polls. it's one third of people never tell the truth the pollsters. because you can imagine if somebody comes through a door or coal you and ask if you support groups to put them is better to say yes putting of course it's the most popular politician in our country to our food out as a maybe to six to see eight percent of support which would still be enough for him to carry the illusion of fear of the police to go. in eighty eight you can read the book or for good. in the room for you will find this in figures so you know what your fifteen percent of support in there to a in the into a two line you have fifty two percent of support just one year before that on the important mr good cause i don't believe your story and historical parallels i think i don't think they ever of work and this is perhaps simplifying. the matters a little bit but can i ask you why i just want to tell don't believe in any polls
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that are for the situation can be changed drastically after the split of the loop and i believe some split over loop because you know. the moves in the parliament and the government and the closed circle was put him there is a consensus in the loop can i ask you a question about that because specifically about the power transition and the change of power in russia all the candidates in these elections including putting himself say that in principle they support. powers need to be changed in their regular bases but i think for the kremlin the question is always not why but when and how. putin tomorrow wakes up and decides you know i've been in power for way too long i just need to find something more exciting to do with the rest of my life do you think our country the state that it is right now with its very weak checks and balances from a different system that exists today with
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a law enforcement that exists today with the levels of corruption do you think the country based system can withstand that. would have to change within six years pushing. of the know the president or another constitution although there isn't a do to start in the constitution order to come for like put through for a model because you don't please enter into the well if you were in the distribution campaign again and that people will start fighting for property that the corrupt people. exist within the system will try to heal monopole lies deposition and get get some precise fandoms out those that we don't believe will have will help us to reach. this changes because i know that they want to. restore relations with the west because they're one don't they don't want russia to be as a lay to the they want to restore relations with the west because they have already
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their children to study by elites and they have assets and these are you know your station of the day we do russian side you know the russian means that properly is ready for that will be a trigger to changes but people bottle it's not a very democratic they just say you know i don't know but i know that his through our country it will be. like movement towards each other the lives of the people saw their opposition will work of the grass the grass roots level the elites will try to support this movement and i believe from changes but i think that it will happen until two thousand and twenty four because. the look of the problem in three parties. for example i just russia there is no just russia anymore they have no even the young leaders young politicians elder while he was in office
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q his seventy two or seventy three it's his last campaign so there is no oil deposit so we will have changes we will. you will see the change of political decoration in the element after two thousand and twenty one they like to call it political decorations and we need to build the base for the future political party at the grassroots level but at the same time there is a technological revolution we have the internet we have like hundreds in technologists mr gadhafi you know that we do not edit this interview that's why i have to give our viewers a very short break we'll be back in just a few moments.

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