on the internet and they've done things which let's be straight forward all ugly things mr not unheard of the note on her blog. and not just specifically to rush as if it were actually going to hear nothing you hear at all i mean anybody who goes on the internet comes across. what most has done is he wants to prove that there is this vaastu intricate dangerous conspiracy he's put all this together he's labeled the internet agency in st petersburg is responsible and he strolled around to various laws that he can stick offenses against these people essentially what this was if you read the indictment well this was a commercial barket thing is what it was and and even the indictment itself admits that it was pro and trump. hillary clinton and for everything in between i mean there's no specific political for him to it there's no connections at all there's

not even any allege any connections between this. supposed company which is run by a guy who's known as putin chef because he ran a catering business but before and it is this that is even if they're catering businesses for russian school she was also although it's a lot of old food you know it was just dinner and they were all media so in russia there labeled him that and there's no connections at all to the russian government there's no connections at all to the trumpet ministration the truck campaign or any of the other four people on completely unrelated and you know spurious charges that we all or has charge any of the other four people who have been died on tax charges so anything else so we have four indictments before this now we have these indictments of thirteen individuals ever be tried in the three entities and none of them have any any. with the russian government or with any. or the drug trade.

or all of the collusion at least it's enough that they were russians they were alive when it was thousand and sixteen and they posted something on facebook that americans could see it doesn't matter that ninety five percent of the european media was very broad hillary truck during that campaign and americans could read nearly and five pages of their stuff during their campaign that's not important what is important is that these thirty russians did it well let me. make this see various court. bloomberg he is a writer for bloomberg he used to be able russian journalist now he leaves a broad writes about russia just like marsha gessen the difference is that he knows a thing or two about russian history and literature i like much i guess so here's what he wrote i am actually surprised i haven't been indicted i am russian i was in the us in two thousand and sixteen and they published coolum screed tickle of both clinton and trump without registering as

a russian h ok that goes for my next point alexander given what we just heard from my idea then christopher steele should be indicted as well he's a foreigner he wasn't registered as a foreign agent he didn't. report to the federal election commission about what he was doing. this is a glaring this illegally only lied you don't know anything that we have to go to confession according to the actual terms of its dimitri babich is the unnamed fourteen yes because people like to say it is because if you read the indictment there could be a very possible going to really let me go back to the ghost of christmas and steal because i think it's really important questions being answered i mean all the things that people have been indicted for all christopher steele has done he has lied to the f.b.i. he is into feet in the us election he has done so secretly he has been phoning up new spaces he has been publishing information in adults see it that serenity very little only. he hasn't registered as any kind of foreign agent so why hasn't he

been indicted why is the resistance on the phone to the justice department to india and this is probably what i find most puzzling of all xander is the trumps own d.o.j. and maybe it's a slightly different situation with the f.b.i. with the d.o.j. why isn't it moving there that was a mystery to me because it's the troops ok that answers the truck every move talked about it plenty of time to this before trump has no power of his own administration he's he's certainly given away foreign and military policy his own justice department is pursuing him and you know this cabal of generals mcmaster maddest mcmasters and kelly keeps him in a little playpen and you know his only real power is tweeting and i evidently he's not allowed to do that whenever he wants as well well i mean it's it's an attempt to use nineteenth century legislation twenty first century. i mean in the

nineteenth century maybe it was illegal to bring in pamphlets out of the king it is during the campaign now we leave it then electronically interconnected to what if i want my american friends to read my opinion trump all wrong i just post it to all the internet i paused to go because he doesn't know twitter doesn't know borders makes you a criminal exactly but it makes me a criminal if that is what mr ok well let's talk about election meddling a couple of days ago on the laura ingram program the former head of the cia james was lee was on and she asked a few questions about his reaction to the indictments and then she talked about election meddling but american election meddling abroad let's take a look have you ever tried to meddle in other countries elections oh probably but it was for the good of the system in order to avoid the communists from coming over for example in europe. in forty seven forty eight forty nine the greeks and

italians we don't mess around other people. only for a very good idea that you know for a good ladies gentlemen are good viewers that was the former head of the cia who wants to go first. let me let me speak about here in that way western media speaks about the former head of the former head of the cia former cia covert well you know if we use that language to use a boat to put out a car ok maybe a general form of the freedom caught up to that who set it to solve that's mr. mr mubarak we're coming after you which was actually true you know and he's not mad that he's not interfering in other countries elections you know just somehow i think. ukraine was the the crown jewel i mean looking for regime even legal change there i wanted to react to that

because you know they both chuckled in the. jar dropping you know you you're accusing a foreign country in a very powerful one russia of doing something against your country without any evidence whatsoever beyond a troll farm ok and there is ample evidence mountains of evidence the united states middles elections and has for decades it's probably doing so exactly right now. when i was in greece in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight when that was the. first greece. i was actually taken prisoner at the age of the people who carried out the u.s. back to the house where we used to live was taken over by a family from the u.s. embassy so it's not actually search light hearted funny thing what does it not mean if you look at the entire segment is a. you know if if the u.s.

does it it's ok with anybody else does it isn't ok that's the double standard ok if you could bear with me a little bit i'm going to run for a little bit of literature i know you're prepared i know yes i write so this is about the projection from the u.s. on to other countries like russia of what it does the guardian revealed u.s. spy operation that manipulates social media this is from two thousand and eleven the u.s. military the pentagon is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-american propaganda and it specifically notes that the discovery that the u.s. military is doing this with fake on line personalities sock puppets could also encourage other governments private corporations and government organization we're going to also hear that when there was a program with the on twitter and they did does the same thing with these of a q but i'm very much on the seas this is the u.s.

message that what we've just heard alleged there there's no connection to the next one more one more minute before you read g h c q this is the british version of the national security agency does the same thing overwhelming evidence. we have a database from carnegie mellon using the u.s. government's own data they've meddled in other elections eighty one times only up to two thousand not counting coups and regime changes and of course the famous how can we forget this picture time magazine russia the americans openly helped yeltsin in a rigged election keep our yanks to the rescue they were quite proud about their meddling back then they even made a movie spinning boris congratulating the one hundred ninety six million eighty six don't forget to vote face you know well i think it's just a question of a double standards you know but you know that it's interesting if you're right but they don't see it that way they can't see this far away from their face when it comes to issues like this well you know the problem. also with no elite you know

the response of russian it is usually you are using oss in your internal struggle well for to tell you terry nigel would you with global explorations which is no reigning in the united states there is little difference between foreign and domestic policy and you'll foreign policy is spot of your domestic policy so you know they were trying to take on their interests when you get to a short break and after that short break we'll continue what it was gushing all those thirteen russian state with our.

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all right gentlemen let's switch gears here and go back to serious go back to the middle east. last couple of days we had secretary of state rex tillerson in ankara trying to smooth some feathers i mean both countries would realize that they're at a crisis point here after a three hour meeting with the turkish president. there is the impression it believes that some kind of agreement was made i don't get that impression the way it was what was released here what was the point of the meeting and what is the main bone of contention here because this is these are nato allies and they're going toe to toe no to nose in a country syria where neither one of them should be hit with this this was obviously two for washington to hold her guns hands try to reassure him it was it's there over there are meeting of the white p.g.d. on the turkish border. there's the kurds and owning a

a large chunk basically claiming as it of their own of syrian territory again much of it right on the turkish and and the iraqi border so turkey's extremely upset about this there were these optics didn't do much because even as tillerson was arriving there was the announcement that the pentagon is going to be giving another five hundred fifty million dollars this year to arm and otherwise support these forces that he's very upset about but there has to be a tipping point here demas i mean everyone is and is invested enormously in this. operation here of the branch i'm unbelievably it's called range in the region of the invasion of syria here i mean the united states is not making it better and it's saying the pentagon is saying it will stay in syria indefinitely against international law here something has to go one way or another well what happened was the united states indeed kind of provoked into moving and that's was that was

started by all foreign minister sergei lavrov who said because of the support of the kurds thought of the kurds and you know this border security forces. started talking about them or they didn't tell the turks didn't know exactly provoke or provided a pretext and basically i don't understand why mr two was on this talking to god because god has been saying the same thing says to him don't know about the united states in the last two weeks he accused the united states off helping terrorists you know so you can see how desperately the u.s. is trying to preserve its relationship with. the background of this is that we have an upcoming meeting in istanbul with iran turkey and russia it seems to me is basically checking out the terrain here ok because the united states is certainly not going to quote you are not cooperating with police in this regard when it comes to the kurds they'd it seems to me it's patently obvious that the u.s. wants a state where it wants a partition of the israelis wanted the saudis are. looking for it and they want

their own and they and we have to look at the occupied territory where the u.s. says if this is where the gas fields are for syria again no money for reconstruction ok so no one is looking at the horizon and i think he's looking for maybe he's going into the grand bazaar go ahead these are two equally invasions of syria to nato allies which are working at the moment of cross purposes they are dangerous for syria and i think it is important point to remember as for. he. to try and balance the fact that he's now in conflict with the united states so he is now trying to get some kind of arrangement with the russians and the ukrainians to try and balance the am i really the usa being what he proposed that the turks and merican his work together militarily when the when the americans are in bed with the kurds i mean that's not going to. get out there this is the problem at the same

john that he's trying to leverage the russians against the americans he's trying to use the americans to leverage against the russians so that he can extract concessions in syria can we which exactly he's quote clueless may be right cause just a few days ago when the reports about a turkish army using chemical weapons. appeared what was the reaction from the spokesperson for the u.s. led coalition. but the u.s. coalition has no information of this before when there were there was just a rumor about the syrian government using chemical weapons immediately they had was that while they had they had a lot of rhetoric for something they never ever happened they didn't even send inspectors there that they were so sure that this information was correct went to turkey somehow they preferred to be silent is the interesting thing to mark is that we have to look at the internal dynamics of turkey and everyone's perceived

american stance is very popular domestically for him so this is again another part of the spectrum that he's playing i mean he first of all he accused the u.s. of a coup trying to overthrow his government u.s. back to under the bed probably the only coup that i believe the u.s. has been in recent times but it's an enormously popular with his islam is based and their base is as long as that on top of that he's turned his country into basically the whole of the resort for all of the jihadi across the world who are beyond the barking in syria. for the last six years if he suddenly got does an about face turns away from al qaeda turns away from regime change in syria he's got to deal with them on his own sort of was there but he also has your view with alex is that again going back to this. meeting with mr ball with the iranians the russians and the turks is that. what everyone is doing is wanting to make sure that he is part

of some kind of peace process were two countries russia and iran can play a forceful role an instrumental role because the united states is the spoiler ok it's the spoiler countries not interested in any kind of conflict resolution that's the kind of gambit he's. also trying to use he's deals with the russians to extend his influence into syria he's now sending troops into syria. or teary occupation in syria with the us then he said he's sending troops into the province there obstructing the syrian. patrols openly with all clarity and that's that's that's where the that's the mecca of jihad right now exactly and of course he's doing that using these arrangements that he's made with the russians and the iranians to relate to legitimize that there is another side because of course that the russians are they say what we need the cooperation of. and there's going to be more and

there's a lot of chatter. that is really sort of looking for a real real meaningful scary conflict with the iranians also with hezbollah or do you see this is a part of a puzzle piece right now because you know that would you know for planners for american planners in the pentagon it would be nice to have a foothold in syria if an operation like that were to be pulled off i prefer to stay on the ground the fact let's just look at the facts israel has been firing missiles on the territory of a sovereign state. in the condition of a foreign intervention of the civil war several times or one hundred. times in a look at exactly. what a victim or a huge terrorist act three years ago and no one in the west even expressed condolences you know israel has been occupying lebanon since one nine hundred eighty two and that was the reason why it has but what came into being it didn't

have not existed before and now israel which has been applauded. for intervention in syria is concerned about its security and the increased influence of iran. but. a very. cold message that the syrians will start defending their airspace to what degree that will be put into play we don't know i mean it certainly sent a very powerful message we don't know to what degree there. are the russians or the remains were involved in that decision might i didn't think it was assad saying hey this is my country stop doing it as mark said you know enough is enough but look you know we've had this media hype this week you know michael war us dream has come true all the western media will be exactly where you are the former head of the cia thinks i'm going to be buried in syrian steel will start to kill russians he said we need to kill russians and iranians assyria to make them pay

a price for resisting what i have but russians have been i mean what happened was there near these oil reach areas of syria you know the syrian government i mean with basically illegal arms from there if you were the syrian government absolutely there were there were. full of the russians and syrians up five russians killed this is what the russian foreign ministry a contractor so they have a concept that is going to see if the united states doesn't use educating me blackwater and contracts so that western. try to make out of it a huge river waging like something that portion wants to hide if you are in. army or something like that things like that alex you know one of the things is that you know we keep tabs on this program is what's going on in ukraine and unfortunately i think we're going to be talking a lot about ukraine you're. looking at syria looking at ukraine it in its totality

it looks like american policy is just pure spite you know it's they their regime change in and ukraine getting work out the way they want it because they lost crimea they have a frozen conflict against warm every once in a while when even the heart and then we have syria where they lost again ok and you have been ok i mean. me i wouldn't call that mature foreign policy because i think that it is in america's best interest. its foreign policy by i think you know the anger is perhaps stronger than some bite and i think there is an element of smashing about but it's also partly i think intended to show american power if you frustration but there is an element there is a certain element of calculation in which that if if you withstand you we hurt and you see that a lot in syria mark for forty seconds here i mean i want to go back to the wanted

him to listen what's your feeling what deal was made and what the non deal that was made the i don't think there was any deal made turkey's proposal that they would basically do a joint invasion of syria that was right there but that was rhetorical that's not even that's not something that's happening on the ground like you have in the u.s. earlier promised turkey that all of its pet y p g branded as the s.d.f. would be withdrawn east of the euphrates which means in particular man b. this is what erdogan wants he wants african. drabble is quarter which he already has and man beach to form his new chunk of the autumn in the autumn and empire in fact he referred to giving the us an autumn in slap which if you actually look it up in the urban dictionary you'll find it actually is an indication of completely ineffectual this ok i'm not very insightful no and run out of time many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here this is the

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