labels the internet agency in st petersburg is responsible and he strolled around to various laws that he can stick offenses against these people essentially what this was if you read the indictment well this was a commercial barket thing is what it was and and even the indictment itself admits that it was pro and trump. hillary clinton and for everything in between i mean there's no specific political for him to it there's no connections at all there's not even any allege any connections between this. supposed company which is run by a guy who's known as putin chef because he ran a catering business but before and it is this that is even if they're catering businesses for russian school she was also although it's not a cold you know it was just going around the world media so in russia there labeled him that and there's no connections at all to the russian government there's no

connections at all to the trumpet ministration the trunk campaign or any of the other four people one completely unrelated and you know spurious charges that we all are his charge any of the other four people who have been indicted on tax charges so anything else so we have four indictments before this now we have these indictments of thirteen individuals ever betray the three entities and none of them have any any. with the russian government or with any or the drug trade. oil or any of the delusion at least it's an offer that they were russians they were lively interest thousand and sixteen and they posted something on facebook that americans could see it doesn't matter that ninety five percent of the european media was very broad hillary trump during that campaign and americans could read millions of pages of their stuff during the campaign that's not important what is important is that these thirty russians did it well let me cold. make of this

various court. bloomberg he is a writer for bloomberg he used to be a russian journalist now he leaves a broad writes about russia just like marcia guessed on the difference is that he knows a thing or two about russian history and literature i like much i guess so here's what he wrote i am actually surprised i haven't been indicted i am russian i was in the u.s. in two thousand and sixteen and they published corms critical of both clinton and trump without registering as a russian h ok that course of my next point alexander given what we just heard from . then christopher steele should be indicted as well he's a foreigner he wasn't registered as a foreign agent he didn't. report to the federal election commission about what he was doing. this is and he married me live i don't know i mean that we have to go to confession according to the actual terms of its dimitri babich is the odd name fourteen for actually thought yes because people like this is crucial if you read

the indictment there could be very possible i'm going to get really let me go back to the. steel because i think it's really important so the questions being answered i mean all the things that people have been indicted for all christopher has done he has lied to the f.b.i. he is into feet in the u.s. election he has done so secretly he has been phoning up new spaces he has been publishing information in adults see it that. he hasn't registered as any kind of foreign agent so why hasn't he been indicted why is the resistance on the part of the justice department to indict this is probably what i find most puzzling of all alexander is the trumps own d.o.j. and f.b.i. maybe it's slightly different situation with the f.b.i. with the d.o.j. why isn't it moving there that was a mystery to me because if that trumps ok that answers the trial judge you know every. we've talked about it plenty of time to this before trump has no power of

his own administration he's he's certainly given away foreign and military policy his own justice department is pursuing him and you know this cobol of generals mcmaster maddest mcmasters and kelly keeps him in a little playpen and you know he's only real power is tweeting and i certainly he's not allowed to do that whenever he wants as well well i mean it's it's an attempt to use nineteenth century legislation twenty first century. i mean in the nineteenth century maybe it was illegal to bring in pamphlets in favor of a lot of the king it is during the campaign now we leave it then electronically interconnected to what if i want my american friends to read my opinion trump all wrong i just posted on the internet i paused to go because he doesn't know twitter doesn't know borders makes you a criminal exactly but it makes me a criminal if that is a misstatement ok well let's talk about election meddling

a couple of days ago on the. program the former head of the cia james wos lee was on and she asked a few questions about his reaction to the indictments and then she talked about election meddling but american election meddling abroad let's take a look have we ever tried to meddle in other country's elections oh probably but it was for the good of the system in order to avoid the communists from coming over for example in europe. in forty seven forty eight forty nine the greeks and italians we don't do that we don't mess around other people will. only for very good don't do that through. our good viewers that was the former head of the cia who wants to go first. let me speak about him. and he just speaks about the former head of the head of the cia. cia could know know you. if we use that language to use a boat to put out a car ok maybe

a general form of the freedom caught up to that who set it to solve that's mr. mr mubarak we're coming after you which was actually true you know and he's not mad that he's not interfering in other countries elections you know just somehow i think it is likely not to come to. ukraine was the the crown jewel i mean looking for regime illegal change there i wanted to react to that because you know they both chuckled in the. jar dropping you know you you're accusing a foreign country and a very powerful one russia of doing something against your country without any evidence whatsoever beyond a troll farm ok and there is ample evidence mountains of evidence the united states middles in elections and has for decades in it's probably doing so exactly right

now. when i was in greece in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight when that was a coup he refers to greece. i was actually taken prisoner at the age of six and the people who carried out the u.s. back to the house where we used to live was taken over by a family from the u.s. embassy so it's not actually such a long time funny thing well does it not i mean if you look at the entire segment is it you know if the u.s. does it it's ok with anybody else does it isn't ok that's the double standard ok if you could very with me a little bit i'm going to run for a little bit of literature i know you are here i know you are right so this is about the projection from the u.s. on to other countries like russia of what it does the guardian revealed u.s. spy operation that manipulates social media this is from two thousand and eleven the u.s. military the pentagon is developing software that it will let it see. currently

manipulates social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-american propaganda and it specifically notes that the discovery that the us military is doing this with fake on line personalities sock puppets could also encourage other governments private corporations and government organizations are going to also hear that when there was a program with on twitter and they did does the same thing with ease of e.q. but i'm very much the c.s. this is the us message that what we've just heard alleged this new connection to the next one more one more minute before you know the right g h c q this is the british version of the national security agency does the same thing overwhelming evidence. we have a database from carnegie mellon using the u.s. government's own data they've meddled in other elections eighty one times only up to two thousand not counting coups and regime changes and of course the famous how could we forget this picture time magazine russia the americans openly helped

yeltsin in a rigged election keep our yanks to the rescue they were quite proud about their meddling back then they even made a movie spinning boris congratulating the ninety six million eighty six don't forget to vote face you know well i think it's just a question of a double standards you know but you know that it's interesting if you're right but they don't see it that way they can't see this far away from their face when it comes to issues like this well you know the problem is also with oh elite you know the response of russia is usually you are using office in your internal struggle well for it to tell you terry and i go with you with global explorations which is no rein in the united states there is little difference between foreign and domestic policy and your foreign policy is part of your domestic importance so you know they were trying to take on their differences when you go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue with a question on those thirteen russian stayed with already.

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welcome back to crossfire for all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. all right gentlemen to switch gears here and go back to serious go back to the middle east. last couple of days we had secretary of state rex tillerson in ankara trying to smooth some feathers i mean both countries would realize that they're at a crisis point here after a three hour meeting with the turkish president. there is the impression at least that some kind of agreement was made i don't get that impression the way it was what was released here what was the point of the meeting and what is the main bone of contention here because this is these are nato allies and they're going toe to toe no to no it's in a country syria where neither one of them should be hit with this this was obviously too for washington to hold her guns hands tried to reassure him it was

it's there over there are meeting of the white p.g.d. on the turkish border. there's the kurds and owning a a large chunk basically claiming as it of their own of syrian territory again much of it right on the turkish and and the iraqi border. so turkey's extremely upset about this there were these optics didn't do much because even as tillerson was arriving there was the announcement that the pentagon is going to be giving another five hundred fifty million dollars this year to arm and otherwise support these forces that he's very upset about but there has to be a tipping point here demas i mean everyone is and is invested enormously in this operation here all of the branch unbelievably it's called. invasion of the invasion of syria here i mean the united states is not making it better and it's saying the

pentagon is saying it will stay in syria indefinitely against international law here something has to go one way or another well what happened was the united states indeed kind of provoked into moving and that's was that was said by all foreign minister sergei lavrov who said because of the support of the kurds thought of the kurds and you know this border security force. started talking about them or they didn't tell the turks didn't know exactly provoke or provided a pretext and basically i don't understand why mr two was on this talking to god because god has been saying the same thing says to him don't know long about the united states in the last two weeks he accused the united states off helping terrorists you know so you can see how desperately the u.s. is trying to preserve its relationship with. the background of this is that we have an upcoming meeting in istanbul with iran turkey and russia it seems to me is basically checking out the terrain here ok because the united states is

certainly not going to quote you are not cooperating in this regard when it comes to the kurds they'd it seems to me it's patently obvious that the u.s. wants a statelet it wants a partition of the israelis wanted the saudis are going to want to work and they want their own and they and we have to look at the occupied territory where the u.s. says if this is where the gas fields are for syria again no money for reconstruction ok so no one is looking at the horizon and i think he's looking for maybe he's going into the grand bazaar go ahead these are two illegal invasions of syria to nato allies which are working at the moment at cross purposes they're dangerous for syria and i think that's important point to remember as for him he has to try and balance the fact that he's now in conflict with. the united states so he is now trying to get some kind of arrangement with the russians and the iranians to try

and balance the am i really the usa being what he proposed that the turks and merican his work together militarily when the americans are in bed with the kurds i mean that's not going to happen get out and this is the problem the same john that he's trying to leverage the russians against the americans he's trying to use the americans to leverage against the russians so that he can extract concessions in syria can we which exactly he's called to us may be right because just a few days ago when the reports about the turkish army using chemical weapons. appeared what was the reaction from the spokesperson for the u.s. led coalition. to get the u.s. coalition because no information of this before when there were there was just a rumor about the syrian government using chemical weapons immediately they had was that while they had they had a lot of rhetoric for something they never ever happened they didn't even send

inspectors there that they were so sure that this information was correct went to target somehow they preferred to be silent is the interesting thing to mark is that we have to look at the internal dynamics of turkey and everyone's perceived american stance is very popular domestically for him so this is again another part of the spectrum that he's playing i mean he first of all he accused the u.s. of a coup trying to overthrow his government u.s. back to under the bed probably the only coup that i believe the u.s. has been in recent times but it's an enormously popular with his islamist based and their base is as long as that on top of that he's turned his country into basically the whole day resort for all of the jihadi across the world who are been barking into syria for the last six years if he suddenly go does an about face. turns away from al qaeda turns away from regime change in syria he's got to deal with them on

his all sort of it was there but he also house you deal with. again going back to this. meeting with mr ball with the iranians the russians and the turks is that. what everyone is doing is wanting to make sure that he is part of some kind of peace process were two countries russia and iran can play a forceful role an instrumental role because the united states is the spoiler ok it's the spoiler countries not interested in any kind of conflict resolution that's the kind of gambit he's. also trying to use he's deals with the russians to extend his influence into syria he's now sending troops into syria. terry occupation in syria with the us then he said he sent in troops deep into the province they're obstructing the syrian. patrols openly with all clarity and that's that's that's without that's the mecca of jihad right now exactly and of course he's doing that

using these arrangements that he's made with the russians and the iranians to relate to legitimize that there is another side because of course that the russians are they say what we need the cooperation of. there's a lot of chatter. that is really sort of looking for a real real meaningful scary conflict with the iranians also with hezbollah or do you see this is a part of a puzzle piece right now because you know that would you know for planners for american planners in the pentagon it would be nice to have a foothold in syria if an operation like that were to be pulled off i prefer to stay on the ground the fact and let's just look at the facts israel has been firing missiles from the territory of a sovereign state in the condition of a foreign intervention of the civil war several times or why. one hundred exactly going to look exactly you know they rainy and they ran but what's

a victim huge terrorist act three years ago and no one in the west even expressed condolences you know israel has been occupying lebanon since one nine hundred eighty two and that was the reason why it has but what came into being it didn't have not existed before and now israel which has been applauded. for intervention in syria is concerned about its security and the increased influence of iran. but they got they got a very. cold message that the syrians will start defending their airspace to what degree that will be put into play we don't know i mean it certainly sent a very powerful message we don't know to what degree that. the russians or the remains were involved in that decision might i didn't think it was assad saying hey this is my country stop doing it as mark said you know enough is enough but look you know we've had this media hype this week you know michael war office dream has

come true all the western media were exactly where you are the former head of the cia thinks i'm going to be buried in syria and steal will start to kill russians he said we need to kill russians and iranians is syria to make them pay a price for resisting what i have but russians have been i mean what happened was there near these oil reach areas of syria you know the syrian government i mean with basically illegal arms from there if you were the syrian government absolutely there were there were. full of the russians and syrians up five russians killed this is what the russian foreign labor contractors concept here is going to see if the united states doesn't use a cave to me blackwater and the contractors so that western media try to make out to be a huge revelation like something that didn't. wants to hide if anyone is going to read it army or something like that things like that alex you know one of the

things is that you know one we keep tabs on in this program is what's going on in ukraine and unfortunately i think we're going to be talking a lot about ukraine you're. looking at syria looking at ukraine it in its totality it looks like american policy is use pure spite you know it's they their regime change in and ukraine getting work out the way they want it because they lost crimea or they have a frozen conflict against warm every once in a while when even the heart and then we have syria where they lost again it's ok and you have been ok i mean. me i would call that mature foreign policy because i think that it is in america's best interests it's its foreign policy but i think you know the anger is perhaps stronger than somebody and i think there is an element of that and of smashing about but it's also partly i think intended to show american power if you frustration but there is an element there is

a certain element of calculation in which that if if you withstand you will be hurt and you see that a lot in syria mark for forty seconds here i mean i want to go back to the one in tillerson what's your gut feeling what deal was made and what the non deal that was make the i don't think there was any deal made turkey's proposal that they would basically do a joint invasion of syria that was right there but that was rhetorical that's not even that's not something that's happening on the ground going to happen the u.s. earlier promised turkey that all of its pet y p g branded as the s.d.f. would be withdrawn east of the euphrates which means in particular man b. this is what erdogan wants he wants african drabble this quarter which he already has and may be before he. new chunk of the autumn in the autumn an empire in fact he referred to giving the us an automated slap which if you actually look it up in

the urban dictionary you'll find it actually is an indication of complete ineffectualness but if you say i'm going there on that very insightful no or run out of time many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for our extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember cross talk rules. show seemed wrong. but all wrong just don't call. me. yet to stamp out this thing becomes active. and engaged because the trail.

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is getting international recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos remember wolf it was dismissed. like you know. this isn't my cup of tea is going out on sunday oh maybe you know john. the only palestinians who gets the most help from jerusalem counterparts i don't think some of those who are under the vision not only could do this. and the desire to display. an identical to the a muslim seem to do more in the middle. but there's also.

grieve for the victims of sunday church massacre in southern russia which may have been an act of terrorism according to investigate. the turkish president reportedly threatens consequences if the syrian army enters the syrian city of afrin after unconfirmed reports that forces loyal to damascus were preparing to help kurdish militias repel a turkish offensive. the former cia director admits that the united states does interfere in other country's elections but it is quote for a good cause comments coming in the midst of the alleged russian.