let them pay their debts but how are they going to pay back their debt if they're in jail i've never understood that logic like once you go to jail you care we're going to job you're not getting out the way were you get paid when you bought him our making license plates if you're lucky and what about school pay off your student loan but no it's going to be if you're a couple of packs of roman at the commissary and maybe one phone call in what's interesting is how many people have actually been yeah you turned over if you had asked well and understand this there's about seventy years an estimated seventy seven million americans have debt that are in collection are being run by a collection agency so to be out there if you're in collection on anything bad your we all have your your there's and your brothers in arms are exactly so you like is that the person falls behind on their bills they go into collection the collection agency takes them to court and so what happens is most of the time they don't get the they don't get the notices or like i said they get sent to the wrong people or they're not aware that this is happening and so in the case of the all the early couple the notices were actually given to a forty five year old man and. you know i want to i want to point out very quickly

jennifer turner the a.c.l.u. is principled human rights researcher and author of the report that did this and she said quote they are never criminally charged in the warmth or still civil but they still lose their liberty they don't have a criminal record but they suffer a lot of the same cause collateral consequences she's talking about people who go to jail for this kind of thing writing this and people over twenty three hundred dollars and all i mean are suppose you go to something i mean was it the a.c.l.u. phone cases in which threatening letters were sent for debts as low as two dollars two dollars are you going to send some of threatened letter for two dollars in jail so you've got one in three americans has debt managed by a private collection agency. it's incredible ninety percent of defendants it goes against them i mean criminalizing proverb poverty is wrong it is it is wrong it's definitely wrong and we will definitely follow that story because it's a big story all right as we go to break watchers don't forget to let us know what you. think of the topics we've covered

a very spoken for the first year full shows that are coming up we welcomed our colleague the founder of reaching america to the hawk's nest to discuss his organization work in solving social divisions and promoting real opportunities states to watch the hawks. stein is getting international recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos i'm in built it was decommissioned to do it looking like a million pieces and my compass to me is going up to the study hall maybe you know john no doubt a tough job with a ship the only palestinians who gets the most help from its jerusalem counterparts i don't think there's some of those who in the world under the oak vision didn't

know when you could get it. and though it is unfair advantage to have to this lady of the muscle that you had i'm going to compete in the gaza machine to do more commitments also don't piss off. his daughter from gaza today lest. we dismantle the settlements once we got good neighbors we've got to tell organisation that to launching a look at still our villages and i will keep them safe and dug tunnels so instead of having good neighbors we have a mustang which is a tell all state. apply to many clubs over the years so i know the game and so i got. the ball isn't only about. what happens on the pitch pull the funnel school it's about the passion from

the fans it's the age of the super manager kill the narrowness and spending two hundred twenty million on one player. it's an experience like nothing else i want to because i want to share what i think what i know about the beautiful guy a great so well more transfer. and thinks this minute. fifty years ago breaking within two cons again as a sleeping pill does this is what i believe because this is what it said this is the side effects were terrible but not on the road. across europe. legal battles demanding at least some compensation. in two ways first will the physical damage itself as well that the comes to mind

that the people who actually perpetrated this crime has never been before the justice and that has been the cause of. the united states today stands as politically and culturally divided as it ever has in our two century long history whether it be maga hot owners versus hillary voters or even clinton supporters and bernie bros gun owners and urban yuppies living in two entirely separate realities or the racial undertones of the war over police brutality and unconditional support for law enforcement the nation is truly divided and with every minute we spend watching the mainstream news media it seems like president lincoln's cautionary words of our house divided against itself may be increasingly relevant and prophetic but not everyone in the field of social

activism feels that we are irreversibly headed down this bleak road and many in fact are redoubling their efforts efforts one such american as their holly founder of reaching america and a pioneer and minority outreach to combat social divisions and inequality it's an equities and promote opportunity to discuss his work derek joins us today and nox nast there are an absolute pleasure in the store from the from what you do you know what is reaching america what does it do exactly sure rich americans more organizations are developed to address. issues that are impacting our communities and we're focusing all solutions not based on right or left wing views what makes sense for more united america. thank you it is the symbol i think. difficult yes it is about. your organization bills itself as spoken to so focused on african-american outreach that ignores and supersede sort of the traditional left right paradigm that this idea of you're either one or the other user or

against what one would think in this day and age that is a very difficult objective considering how divided our nation is and how do you manage to do this without getting caught up in that partisan. there you are yes i still am trying to do it is ready to make the world order of things is we're not you know we do outreach events and i kind of thing i tend to stay away from saying the word republican ok that's sometimes can be a dangerous word depending on audience and a lot of times you know when i'm speaking to black audiences you know i don't mention the president either because he's going to get a negative response so i talk about the issues and so we start talking about energy and energy poverty and energy poverty exists when low income families spent i was at thirty percent of their total income on their electric bills and when that happens it puts people in a very difficult situation having to make tough choices like do i eat today or do i

pay the electric bill do i get a prescription filled or do i pay my lecture bill and so we start talking and put it in layman's terms like that now people i wait a minute what can i do to actually lower the cost of my energy bill and so now we start talking about the use of fossil fuels and so i'm very passionate about energy because my first graduate from college moved back home to norfolk virginia and i worked for norfolk southern railroad i was a break then ok. we are going to hook the hoses right up the brakes that every day and so our job the responsibility was to low coal ships that transport coal all around the world so i've always asked myself the question if our coal and natural resource are good enough of the countries that wasn't good enough for us right here at home and addition to that my grandfather was a black coal mine in southwest virginia so when i start talking about for gent i mean if you fossil fuels and energy now it comes across as very genuine and i've been able to i would say humanize fossil fuels and energy but obviously fossil

fuels is a divisive issue because it is you know given the fact the i don't think we can change the fact that we're pushing into a new green energy world you know and that eventually fossil fuels are going to kind of go the way of the dinosaurs and came from the president did that on purpose . but you know how did how do we balance that especially when we're talking low income especially we're talking people that you know they're not going to have access to the electric car but at the same time their gas bills super expensive are secure how do they navigate this shift and dynamic that we're in the middle of well we use right now more energy than we ever have in the history of this country and it's because of our mobile devices so good point and so when you start put it in layman's terms ok most of the time right now in this country we have an abundance of affordable and reliable energy ok that we can have if we can get access to roll back those regulations and make it happen and so and to and so when i start talking to people about going green and of course we all need to reduce our footprint i'm

going to green it with that and until we can figure out what's the best way to harness all of this renewables we need to use what we have right and so i will for you know the approach in terms of what's new what's what can reduce our carbon footprint what kind of thing but until we harness the sun and to harness water then we have the use of fossil fuels the god given. right here in north america i've begun we should be there god for the amount of fossil fuels that we have and it's going to be right here as opposed to other countries we have in brown and black males right now for us and for how does that connect to racial inequality because at the end of the day i start thinking when i think about how do we bring those costs down for low income people and anyone in any place white or black you know you're saying we how do we connect that with using what we have bringing down those costs moving into another and what how does your organization help people with that it's a lot of education and awareness and so we do

a lot of events where we go out and we talk about the talk to people about energy and why it's important to utilize fossil fuels and how we can improve their lives and we talk about the regulations that exist when you start looking at your energy bill so we would do it and we would have a panel discussion where we. talked about energy poverty and so people would actually bring in their electric bills of a thousand dollars and live in an apartment and so now we start talking about reducing those regulations to reduce your energy bill not make sense with people but again no one's been able to give deliver the message has been the message in the messenger which is why i think we've been embraced reaching america that's interesting the center one of the other aspects of do you guys who talk a lot about energy what are some of the other issues not just one of just a surprise or let's talk about that of course is a bipartisan bill right now with senator congressman mark walker from north carolina and the c.b.c. chairman said rick richmond it's louisiana so they have

a bipartisan bill that's out right now and so that's something people can unify because bipartisan and so everyone in america would appreciate some type of c.j. our criminal justice reform and so the president right now he talks about there's going to be an executive order coming down right now where there's going to help some of the returning citizens and so when we even when i debate people on my show my podcast reach america on demand you know people have to agree ok some criminal justice reform over criminalization that's going to help a lot of people we definitely need it we were far too much of an over criminal society i think i think it's it hurts our standing when we say that we're land of the free and we have people incarcerated right now in the world because you know it's cost to everything that's in a position where we have had jobs going overseas and all this stuff and we're see it all is connected and i think that's what's interesting activists often forget those connections they get so caught up in a message or keeping that hash tag going and staying on that message how can

activists fine tune with their doing i mean you fine tune to come up here and say like coal is great and not have me like right. that's. good that's going to big it's like you're having a conversation what is it activists can do to fine tune their mess. in a way that we can have these feelings and make it personal it's about human it's a good thing is all i'm trying to improve people's lives even when you talk about you know education ok i'm of the believe the school choice is the way to go and when you look at some of the school systems particularly in our area and we call prince george's county they're ok they just went through this whole thing out with with a change of test grades in pushing kids along that this should have been promoted well that's that's an example what's going on a lot of public school systems across this country and so even in prince george's county you have a lot of parents who send their kids already to private schools for high school because the high schools are just they're not up to par so any time you send your

child to a school outside of your district you're for school choice and so a lot of people offer school choice and support it but don't really know that amherst and i think you think maybe my father worked for a public school and he sent me to a private hell i probably have adviser was in there and got so it's so interesting how we can find those connections to people that it's not always one one way but i know and i think i think it's also important i think you understand this is that is that in this country because we have so many different political ideologies and somebody's different cultural backgrounds and everything like that that we really should be focused more on finding the best set of ideas rather than just one or the other. you know because i think that when you can have a balance between you know like you say like coal and green well then you're helping the least off the dangers of both you know and when you talk about schools like you know i don't necessarily want to see a completely you know kind of capitalize privatized school system i think you need a combination of both so you know but we have to reform the existing school system

and we have to make sure that the capitalized school system doesn't turn into like the university problem we're becomes all about the money and then it's only a people going to the debt just to send their kids to grade school you know it's like you know i don't see that i don't know as i do the right and i really i think it's good that you can sit up here and we could have these kind. decision whether that's one of those would happen i think reaching america is good for that i'm glad that you're out there doing that and hear them grudge come up here and have this conversation over we're all glad to come back. real quickly what what's the next thirty seconds or so what are you guys focused on that right now we're we're going to go out we have tour dates lined up right now we go well and again we speak to individuals about our different issues and we're going to kick it off here in march in cincinnati ohio and the carolinas coming up in texas and we're going to be talking about all of our issues including energy criminal justice reform occupational lives as a reform research good as free speech is praised in praise of all that is what they are americans who are obviously going to. take their lives for you instead they're

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for broadcasting live direct from our studios in moscow this is our two international i'm sean thomas certainly glad to have you with us the russian ambassador to the un has called for urgent action to resolve the humanitarian crisis in the rebel held region of eastern in syria addressing the security council he criticized the way the media and foreign powers have been influencing the situation. there is a must of psychoses in the mainstream media which is spread in the same room as day after day it doesn't help to understand the situation that's who the book food would be idea that there are only hospitals in eastern guta which the tsunami of fighting against now what we just heard was the russian ambassador to the united nations responding to what he characterized as

a smear campaign now the meeting was called in response to the situation in eastern guta that this is a suburb of damascus located to the east of damascus and at this point it's an enclave of rebels and terrorist forces now there's been increasing hostilities in eastern guta as the syrian government is fighting to retake the city from terrorist russia was responding to some of the very heated words and accusations we heard from other countries in the chamber in the lead up to his remarks systematic targeting of civilians in disregard for human life attacks against health care and hospitals constitute would crimes the regime wants to keep bombing and gassing these four hundred thousand people and the assad regime is counting on russia to make sure the security council is unable to stop their suffering now in his remarks to the fifteen member body in the bed he was very clear that situations in eastern guta are rather dire however the situation is much more complex than it's being made out to be but essentially civilians are being used as human shields by the

terrorists and isn't this what the international community should be doing should they not be fighting against these terrorist groups to point out the some of the more extreme allegations being made against russia and syria are being made by the forces that just leveled the city of raka the u.s. led coalition leveled syria's rucka this is in the recent post should be forgotten so the phone just went to happen for some reason nobody did that international. it was still a thirty year we were forced to leave homes because of ice and when we returned we found everything which used to rubble and look at all the devastation is a ghost city ninety minutes when live in the midst of destruction we feel completely abandoned everything around has been destroyed.

life years horrible this is and rubble have to be to remove the debris with all money there's no running water so we have to. use the u.s. coalition caused the destruction of records and has a responsibility to rebuild the city we need to help with restoring the water supply and clearing the rubble as the meeting went on and different speakers took the floor and addressed the u.n. security council was very clear that everyone agreed that the life of civilians in eastern guta was was of top concern however there were clear differences about who is to blame and that certain countries felt as if the situation was just squarely on the shoulders of syria and russia there was disagreement on a centrally what what the russian ambassador characterized as a smear campaign against russia. the u.n. earlier called for an end to the fighting in eastern good calling the rebel enclave

hell on earth earlier we spoke to a representative of doctors without borders about the situation there. so we have six be supported and. three seats i hope to nations in the last few days. overthrow markets and the number of wounded people has increased dramatically in the last. few days reported thirteen hundred people wounded. two hundred. seventy people. but the biggest problem for the moment the ones that still function is. supplies as long as the fighting just going on a medical supply so some sort of agreement that. these medicines and especially i repeat surgical supplies in a static can enter into the. place the surgeons. can do their my saving work. who has

reported extensively from syria's war zone takes a closer look at who is in control of the strategic damascus suburb. east ghouta is not a nice place to live in surrounded as it is. a constant war zone within and without. islam the army of islam holds most of east ghouta as the name may imply these guys crusading for democracy and when they aren't busy killing each other they share power with nuestra while kiat in syria and

a number of smaller groups. these are ruthless people they cage civilians literally put woman and the elderly in metal cages and hoisted them onto roofs where they left them and literal human shield made of civilians to protect themselves their fighters from strikes these same people jihad ists who say they're fighting to free the country from outside then turn their guns on protesters when they day complain about the jihad ists themselves. these infamous incident being one of them

a crowd of demonstrators fired upon by rebel fighters john kerry himself once called the rebels holding east ghouta a subgroup of isis and al qaeda remember what the u.s. . led coalition deeds to isis in mosul. one of its kind of as of yet. they leveled an entire city thousands of civilians dead yet they say there is no choice the terrorists were sponsible by using human shields a sad fact of war two billion casualties are a fact of life in this sort of situation do you agree that some of the the high level of i think ridiculous standard that we had previously is now created this.

behavior by ice is that they now realize that they take human shields are going to avoid being struck and that actually this is adding to the problem congressman i do believe they understand our sensitivity to civilian casualties and they're exploiting that and i do agree that as we move into these urban environments it is in become more and more difficult to apply extraordinarily high standards for the things that we're doing although we will try for some reason this time around they seem to be avoiding any mention of who it is that controls east ghouta all but the same job that's when the islamists blindly shelled damascus every day and slaughter more and more civilians well that's war when the syrian army responds suddenly it's an atrocity remarkable isn't it how the rules change entirely depending on who's calling the shots well state department spokesperson heather nauert gave a statement claiming russia is responsible for the devastation in syria and even

went as far as blaming this channel. and you take these questions to our teacher sputnik ask them those very questions what are they doing to stop the devastation the deaths and the murders that are taking place in syria i'd be curious to hear their answers they could do a lot more they certainly very unique responsibility we'd like to see them do i think what you're trying to say is that any kind of civilian deaths that take place in the course of the syrian government offensive are the responsible of the russian government because the russians are supporting the syrians so therefore anything they say the syrians are guilty of russia is guilty of to that same principle could be applied for example when the iraqi forces recovered a bosal from diane or one of the kurdish led forces the s.d.f. recovered rocka from di actually both cases with strong american air support which took a tremendous civilian.