and lost korea. could be even worse if north korea has no intention to denuclearize because any talks which. you know wish doesn't lead to decry zation or in which no script confirms is intention not to do to denuclearize under any circumstances that could strengthen the hand of those in washington who advocate a military option so. if nothing comes out of the talks the tin sounds in the north or the thin north korea and the us. i think. you know it makes it it will. become those who. who look for diplomatic solution and

the tall scan confirmed that diplomacy is useless is north korea has no intention to diena cries north korea has warned both south korea and us against a resumption of annual military drills the two countries hold near the north korean borders my understanding is that they will go hadis planes now will the drills i'm knol all the progress made between the two koreas at the olympics well i'm i'm not sure where those korea has always been opposed to joint military drills i don't know how do you from they are this year. if they are desperate. to. reduce any pressure for. sanctions and military option which stand in the way of their ultimate call of nuclear armament. then i think. military drills can be only

a temporary. us in the road to into korean. dialogue even at the summit level. president moon was invited to visit the north and he replied to the invitation by saying that the two sides should create the right circumstances to make it happen what would the right circumstances be here well i think it's important to known. before hand will kind of outcome will be produced by the summit because a summit could be worse than no summit if it doesn't produce anything or it only confirms if it only confirms that north korea has no intention to abandon these nuclear missile programs under any circumstances as a set that will only. you know lead to it will only justify military option against north korea so there could be. more dangerous than no

summit at all so i think he will he may wish to go to a pillion. with a reasonable chance of producing a positive outcome that would lead to a stronger peace rather than two were good but where would you get the guarantees that the outcome with will be positive i mean when you're going to those kind of talks it's always you know a game of you never know what's going to happen you take a chance you take a risk yeah if the chance is to take a chance is very dangerous this time because it's not just. try. and odessey it if it doesn't produce anything because no positive outcome. we'll i wouldn't say it will guarantee but it will as i said strengthen. the

arguments for military option and it will. press t v can those who believe in a peaceful diplomatic solution so this very dangerous so i think through preliminary talks between the south and north. present one will have to find out how how interested north korea would be what would be the chance to produce. a positive outcome from the meeting otherwise i think he should be very careful in falling into into the trip of those who are looking for a military option north korea is accusing united states of aiming to and the potential thought between the two koreas and us has been accusing seeking to drive a wedge between say well in washington now you rely on the us militarily and you seek peace with the north how does so well plan to maneuver in this blame game

well i don't think anybody is interested in the illusion of a piece of false peace a bubble of a peace because that doesn't that's not the same thing as a real peace so what's going on now is only producing. bubble delusional fears it doesn't have any million unless it leads to real peace which can be. no guaranteed only by those christina preservation so the process is one thing process of toffs. and the appearance of peace is one thing but what we need us and the republic oriya what they need is real peace. a piece which is based on denuclearization so i think much will depend on how all these talks will lead to progress in

denuclearization or north korea's commitment to denuclearization and it welcomes serious talks without. north korea's commitment to to nuke radiation will go nowhere and will be worse off in the end now during the olympics present moon was a charmer and true the north koreans while mike pants north them on purpose saying this sounds a mass age that north korea has to abandon its nuclear weapons do you think that was wise on his part i mean did he miss an opportunity for an informal talk or a preliminary talk like you put it well my understanding is that. if i was president and pence was a willing to sit down with a north korean delegation in a meeting about north koreans refused to talk to the americans you know just before the scheduled meeting so. what the

way vice president the parents behaved at the opening ceremony i think it was intended to. to neutralize the fact of charm offensive that north korea was. was doing in the olympics so i see nothing wrong with the present tense is. added to there. but i'm better at that was actually in response of vice president pants ignoring and snubbing the north koreans during the olympics. we've done no we've not just speculation there's a speculation but i think for most korea. in might have been better i think of a smart decision to not to talk to the americans because if they are not. ready

to commit to denuclearization meeting with the american this very dangerous because that will confirm if that confirms. that most korea has no interest in the new craze ation and those who still believe in diplomacy will become the biggest losers in washington so i don't think north korea is ready to accept or to nuke radiation at this point and even if the meeting took place i don't believe it could have produced any positive result it could have been. it's more likely it was more likely to produce a contest trophy rather than a positive result so in that regard i think. whatever the reason most korea was a smart. too in some ways to refuse to sit down with the american vice president if they were not ready. to to accept the new president.

as a principle but ambassador united states demands of north korea very trusting saying a complete abandonment of nuclear weapons do you think this all or nothing approach will work well it should be made to work and the denuclearization doesn't mean anything if it is not complete if we allow north korea to keep. a part of the nuclear arsenal for a republic or for japan. for those who live in this region. so same spread from most korea it doesn't make much difference so it's not the new cries asian and digital cries asian is meaningless unless it is complete all right ambassador we're going to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to chong wolf former national security adviser to the president of south korea is causing prospects of

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when so many find themselves worlds apart. she still looks for common ground. join me every thursday on the all excitement and i'll be speaking to us of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you the. united states is going very deep the mystic crisis shelling the supreme a seat. from russia notes from china from the inside all sides of this ink what you see around russia and. russia. is psycho understandable of times to find somebody outside the united states who is

responsible for while the real problem is inside. and we're back with sean young wolf former national security advisor to the president of south korea discussing both saw and the enter a korean relation and whether it's going to last a massacre i'm your main thesis seem to be the north korea needs to denuclearize completely and immediately well i recently spoke to us former secretary of defense william perry who went on a historic was a tipsy on yon in ninety nine and his diplomacy almost resulted in a deal back then but it fell apart soon afterwards well he told me it's now too

late to make north korea get rid of their nuclear weapons and maybe it's it's time to recognize a new. nuclear north korea and just live with it. well in my view desk very irresponsible of if he really said that i think it's very irresponsible. of him. whoa we know that north korea attaches great importance highest importance to nuclear armament and the only thing a very few more than nuclear weapons this is survival so i would admit that is more difficult to denuclearize most graham now than when bill perry was a special envoy or defense secretary yes there is no doubt about the last korea is far more diverse in their nuclear development down at the time. and that's why we need greater stronger pressure on north korea

so enough pressure to shake up their resume stability alone will be able to convince north korea that. giving up nuclear ambitions nuclear programs is better then. moving forward there with their nuclear programs well talk about pressure for years china has been supporting the north koreans despite the hostile opinion of the world powers now its border with the north is getting tighter it has implemented the new tough international sanctions does china not want to back north korea anymore. well i think it will be. useless to rely on china as a voluntary cooperation because china wants to seeing two things most prison resume stability. and denuclearization which i mused surely destructive

they cannot go together so as long as most of us china one still new president only to the to the extent that it doesn't the president doesn't just have allies north korea will never succeed so even though china is more cooperative the end before the sanctions that china has agreed to will make a fundamental difference in north korea's strategic take from us that will love to north korea's strategic decision to to nuke rights we're doing need these kind of sanctions that will be tantamount to total economic blockade on most korea they can really strangle north korea into economic. disaster otherwise i see no reason why north korea will agree to it in a crisis so it takes it takes greater effort on the part of us to change

china's policy not just rely on china's following through cooperation us alone has the means to pressure china into changing its policy toward north korea to attach higher priority on denuclearization than regime stability. commits have international trade sanctions create a dangerous situation inside the north cause a political crisis there i don't think the current sanctions will create any political crisis in north korea they can bear they can they have no create difficulties in bearable difficulties in sustaining the current level of sanctions what they are afraid of is a tougher sanctions a total economic blockade. which may be coming in the months and months ahead so the reason they tried to embrace the cells south korea is to avoid the

consequences to take a stim out of tougher sanctions and to avoid military option from the u.s. . so the north koreans usually want to get something before they get to the table food relief for sanctions easing or financial aid trade agreements is there a danger of the north playing this game again getting something it wants and then styling the talks when do you think the north seriously want some progress to be made though if we. as a reward for their return to negotiations if we decide or us are ok decide to give them to ease on the existence sanctions instead of. toughening the sentients that will. kill the chance of any progress and in a crisis. he said that sanctions will pressure north korea into denuclearization

but tough sanctions have been there forever and here we are pyongyang has nuclear weapons despite them how are you sure that more sanctions will actually work well i i don't agree with you that have been that there have been tough sanctions all the time they have never been sanctions tough enough to change north korea's strategic calculus thus far there have been a lot of. talk about sanctions more real sentients that north korea. was would be worried about. only recently after their six nuclear test security council has decided to adopt sanctions that. are ten really by north korea. the current sanctions are not going to change

anything there should be far tougher sanctions in place to change north korea's policy north korea's calculus. you know general i don't i don't either shared the myth that there were sanctions all the time yes there were sanctions nominal sanctions. solicitations yes but not the kind of sanctions that are necessary to pressure north korea into denuclearization that there have never been this kind of sanctions now and there's been a push by russia and china for a so-called freeze for freeze agreement where the u.s. halts the drills in return for pyongyang halting nuclear activities do you feel this is a possibility i mean will the south koreans agree with that i don't think it makes sense it does not sense because i don't think the what is what is the legal koreas. retaining north korea's nuclear armament is banned

by security council resolution is illegal under international law. military drills have been there all the time before north korea begin nuclear development and they are defensive. and i look and this is not illegal. so most korea is conducting military drills all the time also so i don't think. there is a moral equivalence between one of those crazed doing and what us and our ok are doing together or international community as a whole are doing together another reason is that freeze. freeze means to allow them to keep what they have already built up in nuclear arsenal and if they have no nuclear arsenal freezes

means at least postponing the time they could develop nuclear weapons but they have enough nuclear weapons now on to destroy peace in this region and i think only for is if it stands there for her own would be tantamount to. legitimizing those chris nuclear armament you have a i mean your stance. makes sense in a way but it's very tough stance was that sort of approach. north korea by association is very not all that whole lot let me finish my question but was that harsh approach don't you think that the north korea will be pushed into a corner where it will be obliged to actually fight back even harder. well it depends on how hard how hard a sentence proved to be if the sanctions are tough enough to create real.

sensual essential problems from north korea i think teams only think twice his very smart he knows how to accept. manageable risks and how to avoid and hedge the bets so if. the sanctions become tough enough and comprehensive enough to really fight north korea to strangle north korea into economic collapse then i think he will be more interested in peaceful to new craze ation then. the team eyes of his regime the present moon is a strong proponent of the two careers reunification but isn't what his nation really wants i mean i have a survey from the korean state for national unification which as that war than seventy one percent of young south koreans opposed the idea also protesters burt

they reunification flag in a post a so-called illusion of peace at the olympics well i think i'm not sure whether the president really wants unification at this point i think his more interested in peace through denuclearization at this point reunification is a distant dream and it's not something that ordinary people feel on the skin. part when the moment comes i think people think harder on your vacation but. for the time being i think the new crazy asian and reducing those queers capability to destroy peace on the korean peninsula comes before. cation. and that's i think what most korean people will prefer as well right ambassador thank you very much for this interview on inside we were talking to. former

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