or leading media proprietors with democratic control i'm not so sure i see it so much as a threat per se in that you know our media has for a long time not necessarily reported everything in the news as we've uncovered much in the film but they have taken a certain view perhaps a polemic few of the world and i see it is more he's writing that balance that's there particularly in. my understanding of his statement is that he's not increasing regulation but he's actually going to open the media up which in my view is much needed we were rated the beginning of your film news international composites of terry smith says it isn't what is in a newspaper it's what isn't just expanded on that so what terry was saying is is twofold one is that the newspaper editors decide what news we see and you know the

differences between this program and as you mentioned the b.b.c. can be quite vast and and one of the things that i learnt from terry particularly was to look beyond that to look at what isn't there as much as what is so for example when we finished our interview with terry i rushed home and spent the next couple of days going back through all our research trying to find out what was missing and i think in addition to that there is a lot of people are popularly calling fake news is around i call people not necessarily doing their jobs properly or not being given the time to do their jobs properly you know they have to rush through stories etc so where is the impetus of checking. those but i encourage people to look at all scoops of news and then make their own decisions and the nexus of power in your film there between the unions. fighting against this nexus of media government in the case of mrs thatcher's government obviously during rupert

murdoch's rise to power as it were and the police. explain how or possibly i mean i do think i remember this the b.b.c.'s star war reporter kate ady could have possibly we hospitalize were police in london fighting arguably to protect the interests of rupert murdoch and in the film as well terry says that they knew which night so there was going to be a. and of iraq because the police first went after the media and it wasn't just katie to show photographs in the film of the i.t.n. crew there are reports that we've found actually the russian press complained to the government we couldn't quite get into the film because it was a bit of a tangent but this was a sustained. approach which came about partly because of a new place handbook. just been released on. policing in public

order but also it went beyond that you know there was in my view from all the research we've done there was a sustained lack of control to the policeman on the ground they were being the operations room was far away you know quite a number of miles away so there wasn't any control there and yet all the evidence stacks up that there was potentially collusion between murdoch between the government and the police in order to not as the public. view is to reduce technology but actually to reduce the power of trade unions to move then forward so they can control the news and we give an example in the film from where during the miners' strike the trade union stopped the front page when i was growing up i always heard that that was because there was too much trading in power when i now look at it and when the evidence was presented to me

and speaking to various people. the trade unions believed that they were holding the integrity of news to account and this is a front page of the morning as leader of the scargill doing a doing a story a hitler salute and we've seen the original copy that you know was written at the time by the editor or we believe it was by the editor and we've got the original front page that was stopped we showed that in the in the film and they put a panel in instead because the trade union stopped the front page zero obviously rupert murdoch i think probably today would say it was he who is standing up for a free press that's why he fired six thousand workers that were stopping his journalists being able to print a newspaper with whatever views they wish to put forward but then i'll throw that back at you and say well is there a difference between in between news and reporting the news and taking a political view and supporting the political agenda of the time that for me is the

difference. controversially or not i'm not sure that certain newspapers in this country should be called newspapers anymore because our the unless they are reporting the news. in the reporting things that are not factual as we've seen with the recent potentially seen recently with korb and. that is to me is called into question what is a newspaper nowadays you're talking about things in eighty one the brixton riots miners and so on into in twenty eighteen you found it difficult although you do reveal previously on revealed information you found it difficult to get information from say corporations and other departments alone the british government i think you know certain certain departments surprises and were great some of the information came from the home office within seven days of our request other information we got letters saying we'll give it to you next month give it to you

next month the scottish office centers information a couple of days after the break read into that what you will and other people point to point blank refuse particularly you know the cabinet office. years later thirty years later yes by using those well there's two reasons one they say that i wrote the freedom of information request strongly pretty much most of the mentoring of the muslim religion here. this is the second one of the other reasons they didn't write the wrong idea and. one of the other reasons they say is because it's the formation of government policy and yet when we appealed we go information on the trade union but not on the corporation so there is an inequity in how people are are treated there. files were also pulled from the national archives back to the home office in regards to orgreave for example because we we

did have a look at that does all grieve well mine is my right as well at all which to resume is ruled out an inquiry exactly you know there are files that have been pulled back to the home office that we don't have access to except as so yes of course it's curious the freedom of information act in my view needs rewritten. we do not have a transparent open and accountable government partly because of the freedom of information act in my personal view. because it is a struggle to get that information and you know we got more rejections than we got here is the fight here or the files just finally him and briefly a lot of it is about smearing union officials and so what do you think this time or would you recall when it may have backfired for the murdoch press and the press and by all the barons the smearing of him being so vehicle when a spy in the goban is using it against them well i think that the overstepped the mark in that there wasn't proof as far as i understand that these things took place

in fact i understand he was in chesterfield the night he was meant to bet the soviets right. so yes i do think it's backfired partly because of social media i am concerned about what happens next in the future because treason me when she was home secretary spoke a lot about if you don't think like cause them you know you're in the realm of being in trouble with the law even if you haven't broken the law. and in terms of the internet you know she her focus is also on that and if the internet hadn't been able to respond in the way it had then perhaps other news organizations wouldn't have looked into it so closely and find that there weren't there was an evidence in relation to that so possibly backfired but i thing. they'll come back so unfortunately like livingstone thank you thank you very much after the break the chair of the british association of social workers tells this program that will

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no. welcome back we heard in part one from or a gleaming stone about historic allegations of the destruction of trade unions by the collusion of government the police and the media and that was before the current western economic crisis triggered by the twenty eight crash joining me now is guy shannon the chair of the british association of social workers the largest

professional association for social work in the u.k. on the sixth of march he'll be joining others fighting austerity cuts at a meeting in london to galvanize support for what some argue is collective economic punishment thanks so much guys for coming on what about this meeting on the sixth of march were you hoping to achieve well the meeting on the sixth of march is actually part of a campaign at the spring into life in the past year or so has been organized. and started by the british association of social workers together with the social workers union in alliance with a whole range of other organizations just explain that there's a union and there's a professional association pressures associations historically have been much less keen to get involved in politics sometimes even affiliated with the conservative government that might be the case with the british association of social workers created a trade union. several years ago which is now an independent trade union associated

with the professional association and we work very closely together in fact the social workers union is i believe the first. this growing union in the country at the moment what have the a story verity cuts meant for your members. well what the cuts have meant for our members is we can't do the job that we want to do properly really. and that has a terrible impact on the people that we are here to serve i think it's well documented well known that susteren say affects people in poverty affects the poorest people in society more than other groups and social workers by and large the majority of our service users are people who are suffering from poverty so sterrett is actually affecting the work of social workers every day in a whole range of ways this drill down to one specific problem as your members may perceive it i mean i understand there's been a closure of more than five hundred children centers is that how does that have a knock on effect on the work of your members not only enormous effect and that's

part of a want a picture of cuts in family support services i mean that's that's a huge loss to lose five hundred from of hundred children centers in since two thousand and ten and social workers need to have available support services such as to consensus to work alongside to to refer parents on to and to be part of the care and support the social workers coordinate and offer you for that which is a provision in britain for your own families has collapsed as some of its i think is collapsing is collapsing in many areas and i understand that your members also have to take the slack after the government introduced disability testing what is the overwhelming view of your members about the work capability assessments which have been very controversial of course well i'm not i'm not i don't know about a poll of our members but i there is widespread. disquiet dismay about the the use of the work capless assessment i mean many people wanted at least reformed or

even scraps. i suppose you're going to say that your members are all to reporting an uptick in the number of mental health cases that they have to deal with the government says it's doing more for mental health problems in this country than any other previous government i'm not sure what the government saying about it but we know that mental health services. the limits i mean one one important part of the campaign that we've launched is to give a voice to service users to collect stories realize stories of the impact of austerity and if i may if i could just. as an article here which is got a collection of stories in it and i want to read out the words of jane who's a survivor of mental health difficulties who said recent cuts understand the measures me that after decades of crucial secondary mental health services support i have not been discharged i had at least initially some online guy did support via

something called big white wall but even this is now being withdrawn after i reach my free six month usage limit the harsh reality as i enter old age is that i have no support to keep me well now except for the samaritans seems to me in twenty first century britain with the the wealth that we have as a country that situation shouldn't be allowed to be the case what are your members seeing when say sanctions are brought in at welfare offices in this country do they do they see people coming to them i mean before hopefully they have to see n.g.o.s like the samaritans they do yes they do and they have to send people off to food banks so we had experience of this when we were the campaign that the meeting on the six a much as part of was really kicked off by a hundred miles notice what we did last year from birmingham to remove you walk that under one hundred yes i did. many of the social workers and supporters. we met the coordinator of the food bank can run corner he told us about you know the

queues that they have their food banks we met a number of people that run for buses happen. so what our members say and hear about is paris that they're working with having to spend some of that time test for food killing for food banks to see the government again and again say obviously they're trying their best but say on the carrot and stick approach to welfare sanctions the government say the sanctions are only used when someone failed to meet requirements without good reason this is a minority of cases people are given every opportunity to explain why they failed to do so before a decision is made and there have been some celebrations of the increased food bank use as a show of the big society david cameron's old for it i think anyone that's actually had experience of food banks and. anyone who's watched the film i don't you'll blake for example which was a graphic depiction of what using food banks islamic couldn't possibly cite i think that's

a comment by someone that's removed from from the actual reality of the of such charitable provision i mean it's it to be reduced in the twenty first century so to people to not start of the children to not start of to have to be reliant on charity which is simply in the gift of people it might be given it might not be as opposed to benefits or provision that people receive is a right that seems to me a terrible state of affairs and i should add you said your union may be getting most of corruptions any other how can a union and association like yours help to be the sort of vanguard of this movement against austerity well it can help in several ways i mean you can launch the campaign that we have that we're talking about here in this interview. it's crucial to act collectively social workers can't absentee on their own you're frightened of being demonized by the press i suspect we should be supported by the press for taking such action. for speaking up on behalf of service users people the poorest

in society to say that. to say that people should be treated more fairly that should be social justice a consummation any right thinking newspaper would think differently than that. thank you well from getting out of storage in the u.k. to class war in space now fifty two years of their first apollo program saturn test flight we caught up with britain's first astronauts in space helen sharman written out of some subsequent narratives arguably because of russian involvement sherman spoke to me at london's royal society helen sharman allegedly to take us back to there was a strap line for the program that you were bored of or wanted no experience and as . there might be other scientists and i was working in industry and driving my car home from work and i actually heard a radio ad that astronaut wanted no experience necessary and actually it was a chance i had never thought would happen to somebody like me but britain had

decided to take part in the soviet space program send a british astronaut it wasn't into the taxpayer funded but a company was set up to to manage the mission supported by the government but not funded by the government although there was only geo political about it to it was also partially to foster better london more secure relations well i think that that wasn't why it was set up in the subject space agency this is back in one thousand eight is realised that they could actually sell a seat on the soyuz spacecraft so they could get it's a nice hard foreign currency by sending other astronauts from other countries and a very similar way that sent cosmonauts from mrs comegys friendly countries in previous years and they've been a bit of a low in this international collaboration and now that they realize they could they could do it again but this time instead of it being political reasons they could just make it for financial reasons britain then one thousand nine hundred ninety

sided that it was going to continue its stance of not funding human spaceflight. but thinking that it was a good idea partly because of course it would cost international relations with between britain and the soviet union that they would support it it's long as it wasn't funded by the taxpayer so it was great for makes i got the chance to good patcher space program you have been speaking about the fact that we know more about the apollo program really and we're coming up to a big anniversary in twenty million team of neil armstrong moon landing important was the soviet space program i think a lot of people. know who is you regarding people never heard of the first person ever in space people often don't remember because the nasa p.r. machine was fabulous and it's still very good the soviet p.r. machine was much more low key so i think it's great that we've have had the communication about about the apollo missions and so much else that nasa does but i

think also sometimes it's nice to redress the balance a little bit just to remind people that the only people to go into space haven't been americans or have been others and some great first great achievements of happened by other countries in particular the soviet union some people will wonder whether you did go to space because major jim was the first u.k. astronauts both what you could find on the internet where this is quite interesting is that we do you fear of course was the first british just wrote the first u.k. astronaut the first briton in space however you want to write it and. tim mission was once it was decided he was actually going to fly the u.k. space agency did rather think that it could perhaps make it into a better p.r. exercise if they called him the first british astronaut and so that's what they decided to do in case i thought the first british just draws a commonweal is that they thought that people might just forget that there had been one already but i've had

a lot of support since that you gave him advice i would say to every astronaut. i just love looking out of the window and i think to take some short missions which i know tim had a bit of a long mission a night it is quite a few months he was in space but we often so keen to do a good job and to repeat the experiment and communicate with mission control and to do the best that you possibly can that we often forget sometimes just to take a look out of that window and enjoy the view so yes that was my message to tell even some will agree with you though about the p.r. given that they've been trying to make representations to the waiter's donald trump who is one leaked paper looks set to cancel the u.s. contribution to the space station what do you think of that if it indeed if it indeed comes to pass so i think also that really ultimately in the years to come this is the way that space missions will go anyway as we have aircraft now that a society funded by the taxpayer will have spacecraft that aren't commercialism in

space is rapidly getting the mentor and the dangers that they're dangerous potentially in terms of health and safety and it has a regulation environmental regulation that say that once those space debris around the world we don't want to pollute other planets if companies are going to go there so the some elements we have to be conscious of but actually i think it's a jolly good thing also mentally it makes absolute sense for let's say the international space station to be much more commercial and for the taxpayer then to be funding other missions but yet companies don't want to do because some would say the reason why governments defunding it is not only the banking crisis is the failure of science communication and the failure to explain why programs because once you were on a recent programs so important to society at large what about the state of science communication i think now science communication is better than his it has been for decades actually spaces helped because it had

a few really great high profile events with landed on the comet we've been to jupiter and we can see further. besson with hubble than we've seen before with fantastic images we get and also we're able to reflect on that as a human race and what that means our place in the universe so it's more than just the sun something that springs it was a knife so well that's really great because certainly in britain who people still in the media seem to be proud of ignorance in so it's well is the sun so it's divided still all pervasive here in britain it's getting better but yes you're right there is there is an element of the idea that some by some people that is cool not to understand science you notice i don't understand shakespeare that would be a definite no no but it's sad to the sun math so i can't do chemistry that is apparent in ok thing to say so that we need to turn that around lots of people have a lot of opportunities now that never never would the gentlemen thank you.

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