resolve the problem unless north korea. is willing to abandon his nuclear programs missile programs as well so paul's between us and those korea. could be even worse if north korea has no intention to denuclearize because any talks which. you know wish doesn't lead to denuclearization or in which no script confirms is intention not to did to nuke rise under any circumstances that could strengthen the hand of those in washington who advocate a military option so. if nothing comes out of the talks the ten thousand north or the ten north korea and the us. i think. you know it makes it it will.

weaken those who. look for diplomatic solution and the tall scan confirms that diplomacy is useless is north korea has no intention to edina cries north korea has warned both south korea and us against a resumption of annual military drills the two countries hold near the north korean borders my understanding is that they will go haddest planes now will the drills i'm knol all the progress made between the two koreas at the olympics. well i'm i'm not sure where those korea has always been opposed to. joint military drills i don't know how do you from they are this year. if they are desperate. to. reduce any pressure for. sanctions

and military option which stand in the way of their ultimate call of nuclear armament then i think. so and military drills can be only a temporary. to us in the road to into korean. tire log even at the summit level. president moon was invited to visit the north and he replied to the invitation by saying that the two sides should create the right circumstances to make it happen what would the right circumstances be here well i think it's important to noam. beforehand look kind of outcome will be produced by the summit because a summit could be worse than no summit if it doesn't produce anything or it only confirms if it only confirms that north korea has no intention to abandon its

nuclear and missile programs under any circumstances as a set that will only. you know lead to it will only justify military option against north korea so there could be. more dangerous than no summit at all so i think he will he may wish to go to appeal young. with a reasonable chance of producing a positive outcome that would lead to. a stronger peace rather than to work yet but where would he get the guarantees that the outcome with will be positive i mean when you're going to those kind of talks it's always you know a game of you never know what's going to happen you take a chance you take a risk yeah if the chance is to take a chance is very dangerous this time because it's not just. try.

and odessey it if it doesn't produce anything because no positive outcome. will i wouldn't say it will guarantee but it will as i said strengthen the arguments for military option and it will. press t v can those who believe in a peaceful diplomatic solution so this very dangerous so i think through preliminary tulse it in the south and north. present one will have to find out how how interesting north korea would be what would be the chance to produce. positive outcome from the meeting otherwise i think he should be very careful in falling into into the trip of those who are looking for a military option north korea is accusing the united states of aiming to and the

potential thought between the two koreas and us has been accusing seeking to drive a wedge between civil and washington are you rely on the us militarily and you seek peace with the north how does so well plan a maneuver in this blame game well i don't think anybody is interested in the illusion of a piece of false peace a bubble of a peace you know ten thousand that's not the same thing as a real peace so what's going on now is only producing. bubble illusion of his it doesn't have any million less it leads to real peace which can be. no guaranteed only by those christina presentation so the process is one thing process of talls. and the appearance of peace is one thing but what we need us and the republic oriya

what they need is real peace a peace which is based on denuclearization so i think much will depend on how all these talks will lead to progress in denuclearization or north korea's commitment to denuclearization and it talks. serious talks without. north korea's commitment to to nuke radiation will go nowhere and will be worse off in the end now during the olympics president moon was a charmer and true the north koreans while mike pants north them on purpose saying the sun's a mass age that north korea has to abandon its nuclear weapons do you think that was wise in his pod i mean did he miss an opportunity for an informal talk or a preliminary talk like you put it well my understanding is that. if i was president of parents was willing to sit down with a north korean delegation in

a meeting about north koreans refused to talk to the americans you know just before the scheduled meeting so. what the way vice president the parents behaved at the opening ceremony i think it was intended to. to neutralize the effect of charm offensive that north korea was. was doing in the olympics so i see nothing wrong with the present tense is. added to that there. but i'm better at that was actually in response of vice president pants ignoring and snubbing the north koreans during the olympics we've done no we've not just speculation there's

a speculation but i think for most korea. in might have been better i think of a smart decision to not to talk to the americans because if they are not. ready to commit to denuclearization meeting with the american this very dangerous because that will confirm if that confirms it. that most korea has no interest in the new craze asian and those who still believe in diplomacy will become the biggest losers in washington so i don't think north korea is ready to accept or to nuke radiation at this point and even if the meeting took place i don't believe it could have produced any positive result it could have been. it's more likely it was more likely to produce a contest trophy rather than a positive result so in that regard i think. whatever the reason most korea was

a smart. too in some ways to refuse to sit down with the american vice president if they were not ready. to to accept. as a principle but ambassador united states demands of north korea very trusting saying a complete abandonment of nuclear weapons do you think this all or nothing approach will work well it should be made to work and the denuclearization doesn't mean anything if it is not complete if we allow north korea to keep. a part of the nuclear arsenal for a republic for japan. for those who live in this region. so same spread from most career it doesn't make much difference so it's not the new

craze asian and digital cries asian is meaningless unless it is complete all right ambassador we're going to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking to chong wolf former national security advisor to the president of south korea discussing prospects of peace on the korean peninsula after the olympic games are over stay with us. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to us of the

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a deal back then but it fell apart so nuff towards well he told me it's now too late to make north korea get rid of their nuclear weapons and maybe it's it's time to recognize a new no new nuclear north korea and just live with it. well in my view desk very irresponsible of if he really said that i think it's very irresponsible. of him. whoa we know that north korea attaches great importance highest importance to nuclear armament and the only thing a very few more than nuclear weapons is their survival so i would admit that is more difficult to denuclearize most grenada than when bill perry was a special envoy or defense secretary yes there is no doubt about the last korea is far more diverse in their nuclear development down at the time. and that's why

we need greater stronger pressure on north korea so enough pressure to shake up their resume stability alone will be able to convince north korea. giving up nuclear ambitions nuclear programs is better then. moving forward with their nuclear programs well talk about pressure for years china has been supporting the north koreans despite the hostile opinion of the world powers now its border with the north is getting tighter it has implemented the new tough international sanctions does china not want to back north korea anymore. well i think it will be. useless to rely on china as a voluntary cooperation because china once to think two things those crystal

resume stability. and denuclearization which i mused surely destructive they cannot go together so as long as most of us china ones to new craze asia only to the to the extent that it doesn't the pressure doesn't destabilize north korea will never succeed so even though china is more cooperative the end before the sanctions that china has agreed to will make a fundamental difference in north korea's strategic calculus that will love you to north korea's strategic decision to to nuke rights we're doing need to ease kind of sanctions that will be tantamount to total economic blockade on most korea they can really strangle north korea into economic. disaster otherwise i see no reason why north korea will agree to it in

a crisis so it takes it takes greater effort on the part of us to change china's policy not just rely on china's following through cooperation us alone has the means to pressure china into changing its policy toward north korea to attach higher priority on denuclearization than regime stability. commits have international trade sanctions create a dangerous situation inside the north cause a political crisis there i don't think the current sanctions will create any political crisis in north korea they can be or they could they have no create difficulties in bearable difficulties in sustaining the current level of sanctions what they are afraid of is a tougher sanctions a total economic blockade. which may be coming in the months and months ahead

so the reason they tried to embrace the cells south korea is to avoid to constantia is to take a stim out of tougher sanctions and to avoid military action from the u.s. . so the north koreans usually want to get something before they get to the table food relief for sanctions easing or financial aid trade agreements is there a danger of the north playing this game again getting something it wants and then styling the talks and using the north seriously want some progress to be made though if we. as a reward for their return to negotiations if we decide or us are ok decide to give them to ease on the sentence instead of. toughening the sanctions that will. kill the chance of any progress in the in

a crisis. he said that sanctions will pressure north korea into denuclearization but tough sanctions have been there forever and here we are on your own has nuclear weapons despite them how are you sure that more sanctions will actually work well i don't agree with you that have been that there have been tough sanctions all the time they have never been sanctions tough enough to change north korea's strategic calculus thus far there has been a lot of. talk about sanctions more real sentients that north korea. was would be worried about. only recently after their six nuclear test security council has decided to adopt sanctions that.

are ten really by north korea. the current sanctions are not going to change anything there should be far tougher sanctions in place to change north korea's policy both korea's calculus. you know general i don't i don't i lose shared a myth that there were sanctions all the time yes there were sanctions nominal sanctions. list sentence yes but not the kind of sentence that necessary to pressure north korea into denuclearization that there have never been this kind of sanctions now and there's been a push by russia and china for a so-called freeze for freeze agreement where the u.s. halts the drills in return for pyongyang halting nuclear activities do you feel this is a possibility i mean will the south koreans agree with that but i don't think it makes sense it does not sense because i don't think the what is what is the legal

those koreas. retaining north korea's nuclear armament ease banned by security council resolution is illegal under international law. military drills have been there all the time before north korea begin nuclear development and they are defensive. and this is not illegal. so most korea is conducting military drills all the time also so i don't think. there is a moral equivalence between one of those crazed doing and what us and our ok are doing together or international community as a whole are doing together another reason is that freeze. freeze means to allow them to keep what they have already built up in nuclear arsenal and if they have no nuclear arsenal freezes

means at least postponing the time they could develop nuclear weapons but they have enough nuclear weapons known to destroy peace in this region and i think only for is if it stands there for her own would be tantamount to. legitimizing those chris nuclear armament you have a i mean your stance. makes sense in a way but it's very tough stance was that sort of approach as north korea by association is very not all the whole lot let me finish my question but was that harsh approach don't you think that the north korea will be pushed into a corner where it will be obliged to actually fight back even harder. well it depends on how hard how hard a sentence proved to be if the sanctions are tough enough to create real.

sensual easiest social problems from north korea i think tim's only think twice his very smart he knows how to accept. manageable risks and how to avoid and hedge the bets so if. the sanctions become tough enough and comprehensive enough to really fight north korea to strangle north korea into economic collapse then i think he will be more interested in peaceful to new craze ation then. the team eyes of his regime the present moon is a strong proponent of the two careers three reunification but isn't what his nation really wants i mean i have a survey from the korean state for national unification which us that war than

seventy one percent of young south koreans opposed the idea also protesters birt they reunification flag an opposed to so-called illusion of peace at the olympics. well i think i'm not sure where the president really wants unification at this point i think he's more interested in peace through denuclearization at this point reunification is a distant dream and it's not something that ordinary people fill in the skin. pot when the moment comes i think people think harder on your vacation but. for the time being i think the new craze asian and reducing those koreans capability to destroy peace on the korean peninsula that comes before. cation. and that's i think what most korean people will prefer as well right ambassador

thank you very much for this interview on inside we were talking to. former national security advisor to the president of south korea about the ways out of the nuclear crisis on the korean peninsula that's it for this edition of something called see you next time. seemed wrong well we just don't all. get to shape

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