and so in the room and start watching the hawks. you get the. real deal with. the bottom. like you know that i got. this. week so. rather than watching the harvest is always i robot. that is always on tap a lot of people will see what happens tomorrow sort of as the are oh yeah well six hundred shows more than six hundred fifty shows and you know as always but there. is no there is i believe a serious disconnect in not only media but also in culture

and it might be country to country you know i've traveled a little bit i don't know but all the countries of the world but especially here in the united states there's a disconnect in how we cover violent tragedy and i wonder why why does that disconnect exist that's the question of my blood why do you think that domestically why why do we overthink things here or why don't we look at war deaths and why the same way as we do like that's on the street in baltimore. i mean if you are with i mean i understand tragedies tragedy doesn't matter where it happens or who but at the end of the day we should be getting just as outraged over the shooting in markland as we are we should be getting just as outraged over the deaths in chicago as we are with the shootings and part parklane just as already over the bombs dropped and civilians killed in iraq and syria as we should be for you know the young men and women killed in chicago and parts. with another school sure but

that's the thing we don't hold all life equal otherwise black lives matter wouldn't have to search through we wouldn't have to save lives matter these lives matter feminism women exist equality we would need the patriarchy if we didn't have that you know everything would be great if we did saul under this the auspices of all being equal but they're not because you know a black male being shot in baltimore is under the auspices of he must have been doing something to deserve it he did something wrong he was in a criminal act so that's how that works so that's that's different that life is a little different. you know parklane shooting these are kids well until they start saying you know have feelings or thoughts of their own and remind everybody that you know some of them are eighteen and could vote in the prayers just don't court cotto like that it may go ok let's actually do so that's different but war is noble . war is noble we are never supposed to question it's it's tantamount to

treason to question the war of that you or that little east the united states everyone else should question why their governments are worried but we we've been taught very much don't question it's always noble it's for a good cause we've heard it recently it's always patriot how we meddle elections because it's for a good cause and that gives us this idea and this privilege that those deaths. are somehow don't count as much or they must have been bad or they were enemy combatant it brings up a really interesting point about that it's a great point is that we also live in a war so it was all the time of power but that's because the u.s. led coalition says it conducted about twenty nine thousand if you can believe this thousand strikes between august twenty fourth even january twentieth according to the official word from the government says only about eight hundred forty one civilians were killed but during that stretch of time so that doesn't jive at all with the data that airborne got in from like just for one year right now i gotta

say one year and the numbers are right based on the pentagon released stats that significantly reported the twenty seventy and it was the deadliest year for civilians in iraq and syria you know where we are doing these things or act in syria so kill totals falling between thirty nine twenty three and sixty one hundred civilians that's the fact that oh maybe three to six thousand civilians were killed in air strikes that the united states with iran and our tax dollars essentially paid for a good portion of coalition forces our tax dollars are still probably paying for a lot of those weapons that's on all of us as taxpayers the same way when someone gets shot in chicago or any other city that's on us because that's part of the culture that we have to change with a madman goes into school shoots up kids that's on us as a culture to change we can't keep writing it off as the actions of something beyond our reach that we just can never fix that to fix. in twenty fifteen a

man walked into the new hope minnesota city hall and shot two police officers with a gun he had purchased legally from the dilute police department but that's not the only case of guns sold secondhand by law enforcement ending up being used in a crime most states allow or even require law enforcement agencies to sell confiscated firearms and many even prohibit them from disk. drawing the weapons a recent a.p. investigation found that washington state has sold dozens of a k forty seven era fifteen's and what most people would consider assault weapons since two thousand and ten most sales are done through and houses pawn shops or gun dealers who in turn either trade the weapons for equipment the department needs or is there bought for cash to supplement budgets and while some states like michigan specifically have language in their laws stating that the law enforcement agency selling a weapon is not liable for any injuries or damage to property arising from that sale were disposal of the firearm but there isn't that language to that effect in washington state where some six thousand guns have been sold by law enforcement

since two thousand and ten which is convenient since gun sold by washington state have popped up as evidence in other criminal investigations more than a dozen times the yakima police department used to sell their confiscated weapons but now melts them down to destroy them captain jeff schneider's reasoning was quote we didn't want to be the agency that sold the gun to somebody who uses it in another crime and while there is an almost unlimited supply of firearms out there we don't need to make the problem worse the n.r.a. obviously sees things differently criticizing law enforcement for expressing distaste in the program and i respect. the police use maybe i could sleep better if they went out and apprehended the criminals behind the guns and didn't worry about destroying perfectly legal firearms that are no more easy to purchase than a brand new firearm at a firearms dealer so should our local and state law enforcement agencies in the government be in the business of selling guns or is that something better left to private industry but there are so many different layers to the question because of

one hand as we all know you know. the way we confiscate people's belongings the way the wall confiscates people's pull logons listening to the very fact that they took the gold in the first place could be brought into question right away was some of them didn't get right it wasn't that n.c. and some major it wasn't ok so they just. ok because one more into the presidency wouldn't just we're going to show evidence. where there's a lot of different back there's a boy into that question and just to be clear i don't want to argue as if those twelve guns make up this huge amount i'm not trying to oversize the problems you're looking at that would have put it into perspective on what i'm going to get out of the six thousand guns that the washington state various agencies within washington state sold all those twelve there is they will focus on these twelve but literally because a two point two percent of all the guns that were sold legally showed up in another investigation that we know now that's a great perspective but at the end of the day i think the anybody in that department i'm sure and anybody else would say well that's twelve guns that's well

there's just too many there right six thousand and you know a five thousand some odd nothing nothing happened but twelve is too many especially if the guns coming from law enforcement if the chain goes back to harden porcelain not a good circle when the everyone. yeah there's a fridge views on this i mean does it really how i mean is melting them down going to make a difference i mean like it i mean it's true or not but i like we have sam and i had already decided that we possibly could need i don't think melting down a few extra guns is really going to change whether or not people have access to it you know now if the police took the gun from somebody and that somebody says oh you took this illegally from me or you overstepped your legal boundaries and you know acquiring this weapon for me then that's an argument to me that person should get it back right to me if they decide to burn them down i think for my own personal opinion i would i would rather not have

a chain of evidence some day be guns sold gun here it's black market police confiscate gun police then resell gun guns ends up in the hands of someone who then killed sales or the police officer and yeah exactly yeah i don't ever want to see that wild chant of events take place so why that just have them melt them down well there are literally last thing a lot of place this. that's incredible to me but a lot of woods in the world where you can go to a wal-mart and buy a gun or somewhere store or a pawn shop you know and it's interesting that you bring that up because it was a sure of will write a shard of county washington only sells handguns and rifles that are designed for sport hunting or basic home protection right you know in the new era fifteen in the quote unquote fun and when he says these guns are going to be out there by destroy them all i'm just helping remington or winchester. so what do you think is destroying weapons you know just going to help that's an interesting point is that really got because our if somebody wants that they're either going to buy

a used one or they just go buy a new one of those boys made a lot of money you know i would say to that is that because the way these guns are being sold they're sold in large blocks by the police to as i said auction houses pawn shops and these other i mean these are registered dealers are illegal dealers but then you're getting a whole bunch and you can't truck and honestly if there's no way to track that gun through it a lot of these in these incidences what you find out is that it was bought legally through one of these sales or through from a pawn shop or wherever and then that person sold it but i'm saying is it's putting things that are really being tracked very well police of a troubled time with tracking a figure that i was fascinated to some of the oh yes rocks or whatever were stiffs but this is the one that really you know it's just these connections where you realize as a as a law enforcement i can understand the p.r. perspective not winning the optics in one case in two thousand and fourteen amanda smith and wesson nine millimeter that he had purchased from

a gentleman who had bought it from one of these sales he did shooting himself in the head. out the bullet went through him through the wall into the neighbor's apartment and a woman who was i think in a bathroom leaned over to pick up her young son and the bullet literally like almost hit me and that's why i say it's just it puts things into an environment where they can't be tracked we don't know where they go and they end up in that place i also think there's a better way for us swords into plowshares of anything that we should be doing is melting them down even symbolically saying we're here we are that's ok all right we're going to break court watchers don't forget to let us know what you think of the topics recover first look at a twitter sphere poll shows that r.t. dot com coming up former cia travels governor of the boxes to discuss the cia's fight to keep secret what they already leaked stay tuned to watch from the hole.

that's geysers financial life they say money the bell i. know you could use it this is a central plank of the four dying of the limits on the problem right now it's a stop to that. in some american cities the police have built themselves cling to reputation people who walk on the street to be united states who are at risk from the very people who are supposed to protect that more people are no more afraid of police than the from the as. you can see something happening in this is like i don't want to call the cops. rather than call the cops in those young black men lose their lives chasing the. dream goes on the trigger you never know better safe than sorry i don't know that someone else is going to pull a gun so yeah unfortunately around around here we end up killing our guns on the

dance told from so much because of this place too. fifty years ago britain and within to come together as a sleeping pill does the switch on the images are just as we said just on the side effects were terrible but not on the road. across europe. legal battles demanding at least some compensation something to wait till the physical times itself as well as a constant reminder that the people who actually perpetrated this crime has never been booked the justice and it has been the cause.

for a number of defensible and perfectly sensible reasons the national intelligence community enjoys a legal right to keep certain information away from public eyes in the interests of national security yes you can argue that the classification process has been vastly stretched and misused in order to protect politically sensitive information or that the intelligence community hired some of its very own abuses by claiming secrecy but at the end of the day it's hard to deny that there are certain state secrets like our nuclear launch codes and the identities of undercover sought spies spent to infiltrate isis that are kept from journalists and bloggers with very good reason and yet and typically ironic fashion nothing has said more in recent times to torch that argument and the hypocrisy of the very same intelligence community which will valiantly fight to protect the classification secrecy process while at

the same time using perfectly to. i'm leak the carefully selected secrets to achieve some very very political goals to discuss this double standard in the intelligence community self-regard above b. and beyond the rule of law we're joined today by former cia analyst right mcgovern welcome ray. thanks right it's always a pleasure having you on especially to talk cia given your many years working in that wonderful family oriented organization a fascinating story that caught our eye recently focuses on journalists out of jobs to this lawsuit against the central intelligence agency in which he argues that the agency does not have a right to claim secrecy over information it has already been leaking to carefully selected pro cia journalists the agency's response has been that by sharing some classified information with a friendly unauthorized journalist or two in order to kill a story does not necessarily mean the information should now be public radio is

there even a promise of transparency at all in the intelligence community any more were we not seems a little ridiculous to me well you got that right carol so what i'd like to do is give a little perspective on this so you mentioned that i was at cia for a lot of years twenty seven to be exact. and i watched the roshan of the ethos of intelligence in one way or the p.r. function that never existed when i started there's now a thriving thriving operation what i mean is the public relations person and people and the vision at the cia it's not only a matter. of denying people who shouldn't have access to sensitive information it's actually more a case of working with closely selected journalists so that they can leak this or

that sense to of thing for this so that political purpose and what is what this person who is suing the cia is trying to say is look you know we should count for something where american citizens if you can leak this stuff to people who will do your bidding and the new york times washington post and well she channel but one hundred clear us would like to know what you're leaking to these folks in eminently sensible argument and the judge came down and their side but it's a lot more sinister than that you know i work toward the end under a felony name bill casey and the first thing he said at the white house and i want to i want to quote him correctly the first thing he said at a waste house staff meeting and i know this from barbara one of your who was there ok is this quote we'll know when our this information program is complete when everything the american public believes is false period end quote wow

wow incredible stuff that was this started as a lot of. talk about perception management while and how this came into play time. just before. and i'm sensitive to this because it's exactly because fifty years since we had a last chance to prevent that terrible war in iraq what do i mean. i mean it can be told now that my good friend scott ritter was so upset with all this garbage all is drivel about weapons of mass destruction which he knew were not there since he was the chief u.n. inspector for iraq if i only pulled his hair out couldn't see hillary clinton could see anyone even though he was a new york resident so he went to newsweek. and he gave them the transcript of the

deep briefing son hussein's son in law helen named hussein kamel who whose who suydam had put in charge of. iraq's nuclear chemical biological and missile programs he defected in one thousand nine hundred five few people remember this and he was briefed extensively by m i six by cia and by the un what did he say he said there are in there no weapons of mass destruction left there because they were all destroyed and they said come on how do you know he said we haven't done your homework i was in charge i mean like i was in charge of the press and i ordered them destroyed yeah but did you know that we destroyed well i don't know how it works in your country but i said i was in charge oh yeah i did i

did verify couple sites had the gall but hey look. are you trying to say me are you trying to get me to say that they weren't. so this is all in the transcript right what this scott ritter do he gave it to newsweek when did he give it. in the middle of february so when big sickly fifteen years ago what did newsweek do with it you know it had this little periscope section i don't read as we get out but i really hardly know that you know john barry to his credit wrote the thing up and he told the whole story because this little parish folks think you know now that the mainstream media so call can easily ignores such things but what it appears even in newsweek and you know the word and study it. lest they be. accused of misfeasance or else he's it's well you know to check it out right so they went to this fellow at the cia. the p.r.

person for george tenet and they said how about this what do you think about this and he said ah i'm glad you mentioned that it is incorrect bogus wrong truth those for our people if they want to have a hold of that he gives them all the time ok now. what did the sturdy newspaper people with media people do when they heard that from so well incorrect bogus roman. thank you sir thank you. for what you thought we might want to write an article about how but wow thanks now that appeared in the newsweek. electronic version on the twenty fourth of february two thousand and three when did the war started exactly. almost exactly a month later ok you know it if in the first year in the future version of third of

mort show here is gross incompetence a report of the media you know i describe the relationship between syria and the media as it is so flicking a screen cools. well it's about that's interesting i like that analogy actually exactly something that wasn't the what the question and as he was hearing all of this and you know i was at newsweek in two thousand and two and so well to say i don't believe there's a whole lot of politicizing begs though and i know that there were people that were working there that were clearly essentially what i call writing press releases for the pentagon and that's the sort of stuff that i wonder are they doing it because they get something out of it or are these journalists how much control does the intelligence community have who should we be judging like to be judging the journalists just trying to get the information out or should be judging the intelligence community who is pushing it on them knowing that they're not going to

question a certain amount of it as the official story. well let me say first. that i think feels right for journalists these days they have to make a living. but if they can't make an honest living i think they should do something else now can they make an honest living not really and the paragon the example that is my good friend the late harry now was a real star. and covered the wrong country fingered the northeast there are all kinds of wonderful investigative reporting got to know about newsweek and we're in newsweek again and we got the news because it was such a star polk award and everything else and the head of newsweek says and bob told me this story so you could tell other people newsweek say hey we're having a soiree we haven't quite come down from new york and that it's going to be great and it will be tipped back to twelve people bob can you con sure enough so it was

twelve distinguished all men of course. we're talking one nine hundred eighty five eighty six ok so they're all there and there's a fellow from wyoming. representative called cheney dick cheney had was it was general scowcroft there who just quit being the national security advisor for reagan and it pretty you know in the civil list they're having their shrimp cocktail right mbox is a pretty good cocktail so so general scowcroft i don't know are says you know on tuesday the successor admiral poindexter sest if i before congress and i would tell him if i were telling him and i will be advising him. then we should tell tell them that we never told ronald reagan anything about iran contra now kerry not used to this company see drops is for it shatters the glass ice

a little just crystal thing and and without thinking he says joe scowcroft. are doing to say critically you would advice your successor to perjure himself before congress. now. this is. what it is like an hour but was probably about a half a minute and then and it is week where i'm around batman he said now sometimes you have to do what's best for the country and that. this was just gentlemanly banter. or i'm not a nutter that truly is. that ok and there are very few people with bob's courage when he did it right away at least go found a website or should new stuff i recommend will keep reading it because we're trying like hell to keep his reputation in this one to what and i think you said it right on the nose there ray is that you got it hope that the journalists are out there like the bob perry's r.i.p. yeah you know the are out there fighting and fighting for that truth and making the

good decisions that are just taking whatever the cia or government tells them to to print a mcgovern always a pleasure having you on thank you so much today for coming on and giving us your presence you're most welcome all right well ladies and gentlemen of that is our show for you today remember everyone in this world we are not told that we are loved enough so i tell you all i love you tyrone and turtle and that have a lot keep on watching those hawks in our great day and night. from north korea to syria's president donald trump's foreign policy is literally all over the map north korea says it is open to direct talks with washington only to be met with preconditions in syria peace is within view but this is not what the trumpet ministration wants. the bomb.

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