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did on my use site involves all object ball the ball coming over days going underground but first to our top story is the bookies favorite to replace tereza may as prime minister clarifies his visitation on the world's sixth largest economy leaving the neoliberal project that is the european union jeremy corbin supporting transitional membership of a trade union a stablished in one nine hundred fifty eight arguably confirms his opposition to the e.u. is always been about sovereignty and accountability. powers of come from. the european. commission to some extent the council of ministers these are quite serious matters joining me now is jeremy corbin's for the shadow fire and emergency services minister chris williams and chris thanks for coming back on just before we talk about the bricks and customs union initiatives or declarations in the past forty eight hours storms e the brit award winning grime artist what do you make of the fact that this petition has gone past the amount where they're going to have to debate in parliament grant felt our budget has
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a strength of failing and clearly the government have not covered themselves in glory at all the response has been woeful and there are i think something like a hundred families still in temporary accommodation and i really do feel the local community there and the wider public do feel that the people the residents the survivors of the ground for tragedy i've been basically let down by this government and indeed the local authority in the area because it was one of the worst fires many dead to raise i'm a downing street saying that may will listen to anyone with concerns about funds but i mean you can i mean storm in glastonbury when she was sharing a stage with your leaders and we heard the authorities tell the truth we urge the government to be held accountable for the i mean is that the kind of anger that you recognise very much so people are livid about the way in which they've been treated i've spoken to some of the survivors both in mark busty is the shadow found emergency minister on the deed in a proper plastic too and people do feel terribly let down i mean this is. just
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appalling religion choir e there's an inquiry but you know people want action immediately and the government promises that people have been let down i think the two things really warm a need and well we won't need a quick action in the first instance i mean anything that happens now is still too late boy at least something needs to happen swiftly now i think because people have been left on the scrapheap effectively so that needs to be addressed people need permits of accommodation for the survivors but the wider points about the inquiry obviously we need to ensure that there is an inquiry that does get to the bottom of not just what happened but how it happened why it happened because if we're going to learn lessons and we need to make sure that we're looking at the sort of circumstances allow those political decisions to be taken that actually resulted in the tragedy granfer last year let's move on to this news in the past forty eight hours i should say the silent march of the forty eighth of march for granville do you think the mainstream media little own the government understand your leader's position on that as regards the customs union there's been
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a degree of hyperbole leading up to jeremy's speech and if you look at our manifesto we were clear in that where we said that we wanted to retain the benefits both of the customs union and the single markets and you know people of people like emily form bree and others have made the case for there to be able spoke e.u. u.k. customs union and jeremy i think is just fleshing that out now and clarifying our position it does make sense it seems to me to ensure that we get a break see that works in the interests of the vast majority of people not the one accountable wealth which i think the conservative party be quite happy to see a kind of deregulated tax saving in this country you know provides a great opportunities to generate even more wealth for people who are already incredibly wealthy as it is we know what brussels did to countries that voted for their own exits from ireland to denmark to greece they're not they're going to be able to see through the sort of the well that i think so i mean these negotiations that call been. would be involved in would be pretty tough along the way because it
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was even chilly but i think the sort of place where we're coming from is that we want to ensure that we kind of have an arrangement with the european union i mean we have knowledge that there is an important place on your outflanking the european union negotiated if you were in government. well we would actually negotiate a whole lot in the interests of britain clearly to make sure that we as i said get a brics it is in the interests of most people that actually works to grow our economy to grow our manufacturing and you know i think the end of the day in the your opinion would get some benefit from that as well because they sold quite a lot of goods as we know into the u.k. as well as others wanting to sell goods there and then of course you've got the you know the point that jeremy made him in his speech to the the complicated factor particularly in relation to manufactured goods i think he cited the example of the car industry in many where you know across the english channel before it's actually completed on two or three occasions i've got sort of customs union in place that
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creates all sorts of problems and obstacles to our industry and obviously we need to i think find a way forward where we have a customs union not the customs union that actually works in the interests of both parties ok in brussels negotiation would say that's in return for loss of sovereignty there italian elections coming up who knows there will be italian politicians campaigning this week saying look we get it when there's a chance you can have a customs union with the european union and still maintain some degree of greater sovereignty than we would while staying in the european union what happens of this set of example across europe obviously that's a matter for each individual country to determine whether they want to remain or leave the european union britain is the sixth biggest economy in the world is an important trading partner with the european union. it has a law that we have in common i think with our european neighbors we're keen to kind of maintain those relationships with the european union the european people as it
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were and as i've said i think it's in both our interest to find a way through this where the labor party differs of course to the tories is that you know we haven't got these. ideologically driven absolutely crazed. hauled bricks tears who want to sever any relationship it seems. with the european union in its entirety and do indeed in my view want to create a deregulated tax haven but we were very very different approach to that and we're determined to make sure that as i've said that we have a break. that is in the interests of the many not the few your colleagues of yours in parliament have been on this program recently talking about british exports to saudi arabia which is we in again bombing yemen and stand you and. secretary and we thought. you know been tweeting about and you've written about honduras in central america what has britain got to do with the or socratic behavior of us back to your well it seems that there is no. regime that we are not
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prepared to export to and one of the things that in duras which is a very kind of repressive right wing regime that's been hostile to democracy and government yes indeed absolutely i think of two thousand and nine as a q two thousand a two thousand and nine and you know they've been repaired repressing the opposition repressing the kind of progressive forces in honduras and this government has allowed exports of spyware technology to be sold to the. government to spy on the you know the opposition in the thousand detained plundered zinj not so this is this is shocking frankly and it shows the desperate need for an ethical foreign policy that actually you know addresses these sorts of abuses of human rights and we know the government wants to get rid of the human rights act it seems that you know they're quite happy to trample on human rights anywhere in the world so long as they can make a quick buck out of it and frankly we would not subscribe to that and would have
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a different approach was really to thank you. well joining me now to go through some of this week's headlines is senior editor of independent news website evolved politics matt turner he recently got a u.k. parliamentary lobby buzz to possibly attend tonight's westminster. respondants dinner in the house of commons yes that is true how come i didn't get invitation last show now you've been on this show you probably the whole we've occasionally rescinded. your we called putin's mouthpiece let's go to office story anyway we've got labor m.p.'s who cozy up to russia should be ashamed to focus on the labor m.p.'s obviously. perceived to be quite politically motivated comment piece i mean i think the real issue here is the attacks and i say you know i don't come on the show clearly because i view r.t. as a kind of media outlet similar to evolve in a sense that. to marginalize issues there are a message from the mainstream press and that is no bad thing you know and i mean
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what do you think of the two when they say away from the labor m.p.'s through an r.t. is allowed to operate here says rupert murdoch's times i think that is particularly important and i think the attacks on r.t. are more out of kind of punishes and he russian point scoring than they are of any real concern of. political or journalistic integrity and i think that's made for with that argument of mine i should say the russian embassy has denied that two men claiming to be in the brewing industry approached labor and be at a community pub but they also have to say bars drugs enough threatening military action in syria strikes russian embassy in london saying that they may well be concocted the images of chemical weapons at pinewood studios i think i think they're slightly jerky anyway let's go now to liam fox because it gets more serious than rupert murdoch's papers in this next headline liam fox visiting brussels today indeed on the mail online liam fox into this in a way that they left with the soviet union's useful idiots and they have all german
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go and threaten the u.k.'s national security in the cold war we have to be careful because it was solicitor's letter has been sent and jeremy corbin has denied being a spy and traitor who betrayed his country yeah i think liam fox is said pretty much all he can without getting a legal letter. self obviously ben bradlee and the finance field i think his apology the vice chair of the tory party yeah yeah which was the apology which he wrote on twitter is the most three tweeted tweet of any conservative politician of any sign which is successful social media for the tories are getting better when it comes to being a so-called useful idiot for the soviet union i would kind of point to nearly that early day motion with jeremy colvin so i naturally supporting workers resistance against stalinism in eastern europe so it's clear from that i think that he wasn't a particular fan of the soviet union and simply questioning our foreign policy in questioning the agenda which we followed was certainly russia continually being abused over eastern and the attacks often unverified footage being used as
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verified but this piece from drone was in a freedom of information request not on the news anywhere in this country involving a lot of money it's not a lot it's barely being covered at all of drone wars you know the cost of u.k. air and drone strikes in iraq and syria of recent huge everything is just under two billion pounds which is to say the ministry of defense or the british government say no civilians no evidence of any civilians being killed by this two billion pounds worth of drone warfare operations i think i would argue that see the no evil to liberally misleading especially when you kind of look at the figures where it says that the u.k. is actually spent less on humanitarian assistance in iraq and they have spent on trying to strike at the moment it's clear you know in the kind of words tony bennett you can find money to kill people you can fly money to help people or whatever side you are on the syrian civil war there's no doubt there have been masses of refugees so let's go to this next story about. about how britain is
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dealing with refugees yes this one from the canary about the yells with hunger strike which is going on at the moment a wake up call for the even humane detention policy un may not have been allowed to go in but the british government does maintain these are not really. anyway there are many of them are people who have faked their refugee status according to the government yeah there are hunger strike rate under fifty people among they all yeah and that is what brought them there was seven questions on their response to them because. what did you make of the point i think i think it's more of a pivot than a genuine answer you know we didn't address at home destroyed he didn't address the inhumane treatment which is seemingly going on here and i bought by kind of private contractors hired up by the government and this isn't a new issue you know there's been many many reports of kind of agenda by spotters that you also look for a long time and i think it's really important that we kind of keep up the pressure on this issue. and security council discussing syria today the humanitarian
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situation i think that we any mention of british treatment of those seeking asylum i would hope so i. will be social i'm sure they'll be more focused on the conflicts in syria at the moment sadly than the treatment of refugees who have less here and come here and i've ended up in a place like holes with which to build a snow but it's nobody deserves to be in a position like that until thank you after the break nature of war with itself is jokey deploys more troops to northern syria we did get both sides of the story all the more coming over but you were going to get. the. feeling of today in a period of a bottle of saudi shyness six oyur.
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an estimated eighteen since i was your age refugees are now living in greece. you know still more to go. to get a home and evil food during. the many sell their bodies just to make ends meet. i know that on the second on again and on the sense in that. nothing's going. to turn to dealing drugs to make a living. well that's just a little gentle of blood blood a little. game of the things. you need. in some american cities the police have killed themselves calling to refutation to people who walk on the streets of the united states who are at risk from the very people who are supposed to protect that
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poor people are no more afraid of the police than of. you can see something happening and this is why i don't want to call the cops let that happen rather than call the cops in those young black men lose their lives chasing the with their fingers on the trigger you never know better safe than sorry i don't know that someone else is going to pull a gun yet unfortunately around around here we end up on our guns on the death toll from such precautions true. welcome back as turkey denies pentagon claims over arguably the nato civil war in northern syria what exactly is going on and why does juries amaze government
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defacto support attacks on those allied to washington and moscow joining me now is michelle allison the women's representative of the kurdish national congress thanks so much for coming back on so nothing really in the mainstream media of nato nations about this what is the scituate. in africa human rights watch things we had sex in january killed twenty six including many children. the numbers are getting is much higher now from the ground it's over two hundred people civilians being killed a lot of children and love elderly's and women have been killed in their homes and also there is a tax a clearing guys you was used to exit go over a week ago to examine the nearly and the doctors in the hospital have verified seven people was injured that there are two very seriously injured i think one of the last is like one lost their lives and so the humanitarian crisis is really it's
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in a very very serious stage where nobody is talking about the turkish government denying any civilian casualties certainly the chemical attacks here of course they can't say yes we are doing we don't have any verification either we are talking with efren ephron bear in mind ephron was one of the region which i said could never penetrate into it and it was one of the region actually war never touched the people in africa have resisted all the you know all the external forces and they created the peaceful kind of a peaceful democratic life there and they have i think about one point five or two times more refugees over the i.d.p.'s from the syrian region into them into efren and they're actually helping them without any support and if they don't support or without any united nations scores of people or even families that have been families so this is a region that wasn't touch up until now a bunch of turkey decided to go and invade this is quite amazing that the why b.g. that are protecting this population i'm sure you would assert. is has got training
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logistical support and equipment from the law trump administration in washington is arguably being protected by vladimir putin backed troops how is. how are they how is seventy civilians dying if you have the world's two major military superpower supporting you america is not supporting much people free in their political they're not hundreds of millions of dollars don't go as money you're talking about air power from turkey that turkey is bombing from the air and they're the second strongest nato army and they're using about thousands of jihadists on the ground and they're much more acute than actually the kurdish forces and the kurds don't have any air power and you know and then the airspace is open to turkey to come in go and bone and that resurrecting hundreds of bombs during this time the tourism is foreign secretary. it's turkey is right to want to keep its borders safe
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so that's the position of the british government is very much against arguably and washington and moscow for all the saving is him because it was the kick against y.a.g. terrorists allow the y.p. g.-d's the people of kurdistan region they've been there that people in that region they leave their and they leave their their families are there so they're protecting themselves against isis bear in mind between two thousand and fourteen and fifteen when isis was actually except if in but isis was all or around the border with turkey turkey did not complain about it and then it was the kurds who fought against it and turkey was watching on the other side and in fact they were even letting a free access in and out of the country thousands tens of thousand jihadists are told that they've crossed from turkey into into the region in the border and turkey was not concerned a sudden isis is cleared and isis and the midst of isis finally war against isis is almost nearing and turkey start to be very uncomfortable and it's your contention that major britain's nato ally turkey has been arming isis diaster according i mean
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there was a columbia university i mean we know we know from a lot of information that turkey has been. you know allowing for access in and out of the art of it and even jihad is some of the arrested sheriffs are saying and we know that there is turkey is only one way to get into for the jihad is to travel into syria and if that is the easiest way in which they've done are you encourage that the white house has not certainly not confirmed claims by the turkish foreign minister the dog. has said to mr one no more funding for the white p.g. so that could save another massacre using there may be a massacre being blurred the lines between the turkey and the groups that they're using isis and i says alleges and some of the isis militants are just changing clothes and becoming their owners for the next they kind of you know it is. a very easy conversion between between the forces and i think we're going to is there to finish what isis couldn't finish with the people of the region with the kurds and
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also the going is there to go to all the way to aleppo because he's saying you know a little was autumn and autumn on land then we will go there and they will start praying and the mosque will be praying praying in our local mosques so his dream is not to stop in a friend his dream is to go down all the way to aleppo and not on his dream but a lot of majority of turkish people are saying you know we want our land back in this land was also it was invaded by the ottoman for a certain time and it was then sort of recovered from them i suppose and the so turkey is there to stay and they can openly say that and it is the politician who says that it is the people go to social media the t.v. the british mainstream t.v. the b.b.c. would not cover anything about what's turkey you know what turkey is doing because they're selling hundreds of thousands of what weapons and turkey is using every day dropping on the people and the people's towns and villages and houses and so turkey's saying we are there not to come back we're there to stay here thank you
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thank you we contacted the turkish embassy in london about the allegations. and in this interview and they said these expressions are unfounded allegations jewing the planning and execution of operation olive branch all necessary measures have been taken in order to ensure that civilians on its harmed country to the allegations any type of ammunition that is prohibited by international law and agreements is strictly not used by the turkish armed forces turkey has long been at the forefront of efforts to counter terrorist organizations including the p.k. k k c k p y d y p g darwish al qaida and their affiliates and turkey is a key stakeholder in the fight against arash it should not be forgotten that an area of almost two thousand kilometers squared between. us has recently been cleansed from deitch terrorists. well to get the other side of the argument now i'm
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joined by turkish political scientist and storing dr mehmet parents second is currently in moscow russia and welcome to going underground again we've heard their horrific allegations of turkish military using chemical weapons of killing hundreds in the african against the u.s. backed and defacto russia backed why p.g. in african what is turkey trying to achieve there yeah but. let's go problem to lest. before the military men tension they publish all is like that in the for example before iraqi war to be told that saddam has mass killing new poems and after be apologize for it but i want to underline that in the operation all of branch turkish armed forces are fighting against a terrorist organization not. senior people.
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and. terrorist organizations et thing bought into syria and in turkey his organization is also it's possible for a large number of terrorist acts in iraq and in iran to that's why the operation of the turkish armed forces is their contribution to peace and security in the region i think why do you think then that the trumpet ministration has poured hundreds of millions of millions of dollars maybe into supporting the white b.g. . elliot's yeah yet the people who presumably the white house would say they're doing that because they want to fight isis there yes try because night isis was funded by usa and you'll see it is using isis to legalize the kurdish separatism it's very important isis there. the. are fighting you invent there were america
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wants them to and then they cooperate but we had by the new u.s. ambassador to london on the program i'm sure he would immediately deny that the united states government began and created. tramples status and part of the gate to p.q. it and since the beginning of the cry just into syria pewee helping support the directed by the united states the american chief of stop called this organization and be the its land force and according to their own us. five thousand tracks lot of people and what you are saying zinni describing in a civil war under article five that would allow the current to bomb washington. is this seriously the state of nato the nato alliance of today yet you turkish forces are fighting against their power quantrill directly by the us city and you
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live one on one of these train leaves portal reported after an operation with the headline not an off me and it does arrive i think because we quite feel it is not between turks and kurds you're the continent is between turkey and nato or between us if you don't like washington what about the fact that it's russian backed troops that are also protecting the us trained y p g in africa no i think turkey and turkey and syria is on the. syrian side but there is a syrian the hooghly forces are surrounding our friend backed of course by russia and iran no i think there's no cooperation between the mosque in pure id the successful operation of two. army. me there for the
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big i'm just sort of syria what do you think that will happen if turkish troops kill one of donald trump soldiers in northern syria yeah. of course cries about. area is ending and united states claim form to roll up the muscle or off the rope has clashed the rising groks off the eurasia attempt at night the. full didn't like the contras in the region is hampering. the continuation and growth of your asia but i'm kind of think so finally you are happy though with britain's position dres amaze foreign secretary saying that turkey has the right to protect its borders is britain definitely not supporting washington or moscow defacto enough for him yet it's of course a good because. you can see that it america is now alone in the world.
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they have not bought those and. he really didn't you know i could give them was the run up to the important partner of us but now trump is alone and their parents like thank you andy and that's it for the show will be back on saturday to talk to the venezuelan government as sanctions against the nation with the biggest known oil reserves in the world come into force till then he was going to buy social media was he was out there and he has the day the california arabian standard oil company struck oil in commercial quantities in saudi arabia money from that saudi oil is today used to purchase u.k. weapons threatening millions in yemen.
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from north korea to syria's president donald trump's foreign policy is literally all over the map north korea says it is open to direct talks with washington only to be met with preconditions in syria peace is within view but this is not what the trump administration wants. more of my guide to financial survival this is on. my shoes by professional scallywags to earn money. that's right. clearly not accountable. to the. destabilizing global economy you need to protect yourself and get in for. your.
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headlines on. russian efforts to introduce a humanitarian corridor or a serious eastern ghouta criticize. the state making accusations some of us are those in the liberation. to look for the very first time the existence of so cold. in the country. the belgian government faces a backlash over plans to make it easier for the police to conduct a raid on a housing migrants in the program we speak to one woman whose home was raided.
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