prize but to listen to those people now you mentioned a few practical matters that you're currently working on at the. vehicle number plays that you mention a little more recognition of diplomas there if you practical issues that can improve immediately prove the quality of life they learn of but how far can you go in addressing those practical concerns without tackling the most divisive issue which is sovereignty and independence well we have to pave the way we have some good example that i have in mind. my political constituency is to be the solitary rule is an italian province enjoys under commuter national treaty the gasper goober advance of forming this kind of the advance of thorn in me could be an example do look at. i'm aware i'm not naive that

disproved there will be not sold overnight but if we reestablish mutual trust for example if trans these terms accept the risk to to show all defy arms to them all dog and farmers in three months time it will be a very important gesture if moldovans would accept to make free soup for commercial trucks from transnistria to the rest of the west there would be another important gesture we have to pave the way so far there has been mutual mistrust we have to overcome such a situation but. if i may put a counter-argument to that i know that you often bring the example of italian provinces as a potential model you have another province of d.g. if i'm pronouncing exactly what i mention. but. which is populated by predominantly

german speaking people exactly but in order for that model to be accepted as a viable alternative what needs to happen is for the government in moldova as well as for example and the government in ukraine to recognize that the russian speaking minority is not some trojan horse that is trying to be a conduit for. the politics of another state but that you know those people leave there that they are their own citizens and they need to be granted certain rights do you think both moldova and to some extent ukraine have arrived there that they actually claim those citizens of those breakaway regions as their own is too early to say. i prefer to move the bottom up or commit to we have to create proper conditions to make it possible that ukrainians for example. this kind of people living.

but of course the result of the state to squeeze will come later after some i would see trust building measures been implement this is my working now all the way itself is facing a constitutional crisis for the president and the parliament being in active confrontation partially because of the different views on how to develop relationship with russia suresh it is again a major factor here. do you thing and moldovan consensus an internal moldovan consensus is possible on the issue of transistor when there is so divided and everything else well. we have a president go which is agreement we have a prime minister and the government and the coalition. which is going through electoral campaign time as i said many times. this is the only

potential obstacle i see to politicize transnistria negotiation for domestic problem and it has been politicized for decades has i saw a very interestingly opinion polls in moldova all e. eleven percent of moldovans are interested to the transnistria he sure if this is true i will be in moldova and in. beginning of march i don't know if discovery spawns to the real feeling of the population but if yes it could be it could be my warning to the leadership of moldova please. be aware don't politicize this is the only potential obstacle now many moldovan media describe you as a personal friend of russian foreign minister sergey lavrov and you yourself are on record saying that you have extensive contacts here is not a secret yes is that an asset or liability in trying to mediate this concert for

sure is an assett. knows me he knows me as an honest broker as anonymous person i will never give up my profile conviction but i will try always to cooperate and no doubts russia is one of the key players if you want to succeed him it was nice young please i will be meeting of course i had a consultation before with the s s r who is from russia and from ukraine was the american ambassador the scoundrel i will have with. you so all people that i had to consult i did i don't want him to do. or that i think in the current european environment and western environment being. even unbalanced towards russia is not always accepted well do you understand that

even if you are trying to be balanced that may work against you i criticize heavily european foreign policy for be unbalanced because of the russian federation i'm free to do i accept to the rule of special representative for the good or a c. and for the good of the italian presidency not for money not for everything so i can be free to criticize it but i don't think that that is going to undermine your efforts to bring peace to know because i would be fully transparent once the different points of view i would put the points of view on the table publicly and transparently. everyone would be able to evaluate now some of the one politicians and their friends in the west for example your senator john mccain how long called for divots drawl of russian peacekeepers from transnistria and back in one thousand nine and then always sees some in russia clutch to do that but never

follow through how big of an issue is this right now for world is simply not realistic talking about the russian military presence would be not realistic oh let's recreate a comprehensive package including other points like the stages of prisoners there was how to treat those people the imprisoned or the recommission the mutual recognition oban consistent all girls people should stay together i prefer to start from practical and tangible issues that are on the ground next step will be to address the bigger issues now not many people in europe know where transnistria is i think it is. a potentially dangerous flashpoint because it haas one of the largest and one of the oldest weapons depots and in

a former soviet union and part of the duty of the russian peacekeepers there is to guard that weapons depot i wonder if you see that as. as a bilateral or as a national issue between the two sides or is it something that should concern europe as a whole including their organization that you represent because i went to see him there is a security issue there as well it is a security issue it is a comprehensive this is why very happy that he is pro your return. and asking me to try to negotiated to make progress because is the an issue that can be solved all the bilaterally. i think the authorities in moldova aware that the first reaction of the deputy prime minister she's in charge of it broke in with me by phone was very positive. so i actually saying that they despite the

calling on the russian peacekeepers to leave also want them to stay to. perform the function of the very. people they understand that we have to solve the crisis to solve the frozen conflict by addressing one by one the existing issues that on the table the past the outcoming presidency or. presidency left on the table the package of a point my duty is to try to implement old those eight points well mr fenton we have to take a very short break now but to be back in just a few moments statement. the new global economic war is unfolding in the realm of education the right to education is being supplanted by the right to access education. higher education is becoming just another product that can be pulled and sold but it's not

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the. wounded. are. welcome back to worlds apart with franco frattini a former foreign minister of italy and the always seen representative for the. peace settlement process is different just before the break he mentioned before taking on this stroll your work quite critical of the eastern partnership program

and this was a special e.u. outreach program for former soviet states that incidentally excluded russia i heard you say that it was essentially making false promises to those countries without making any such commitment is that still your view or have you big become more neutral since july i said so when i was for the minister into gels and nine during the summit in poland there was the launching of that political european initiative i was calling because we cannot create false illusions we cannot give the impression that we have created a shortcut to become very quickly members of you all members told me that this would be a mistake unfortunately i was in the minority i'm staying in that minority position to steal my opinion because we got. no results in cooperation with russia and

for the race surely a moment toward crisis where russia is badly needed to address terrorism in the middle east in libya and so on and so forth and we got no results with those countries ukraine is in a pre-collapse a situation or crisis we have to help ukraine but if we don't provide them enough bonnie like we did promise we did not keep our problem is always possible they are in the. time and the same applies to door door for example the slightly different situation organiser by john because president aliyev refuse to accept the biggest mistake made by ear oh the alternative are do you stay with us or you are against in my view is not incompatible to be friend or russia and to cooperate you i think many in russia believe that that arrangement

was a little bit exploitive because those countries for encouraged to develop political affiliation if europe while also getting a lot of economic support from russia any form of subsidies well they did the ukraine was enjoying subsidized gas for quite some time i think moldova is also drawing certainly benefit from russia do you think it was. a sad obvious way intentionally or this is just anonymous. arrangement on the part of the e.u. because you said that in the ears not going to give ukraine money i think political decision taken in two thousand and nine was that all region and harnessed decision then there was or was it was reverted into a political is. all russian tendencies these. been in two thousand

and ten in two thousand and eleven and of course the all region will be krises their moment or do you really knew all of the e.u. ukraine agreement was the all region obvious plough janelle is coalitional decries exactly because the some countries for historical reasons some european countries are obsessed about the role of russian federation i can understand why you cannot agree frankly speaking but i can give you the example of a country that i know very well i am a person and friend the president of serbia mr bush he was in some cases pushed to accept exactly the same turkey are you candidate for european accession end as a consequence you close a.