continued business as usual for the democrats fired up losing. fifty years ago breaking within to come together as a sleeping pill does is what i believe because this is just the sort of things what terrible but. this is sure. across europe victims are still waiting legal battles demanding at least some compensation in two ways first will the physical damage itself as well that the concert mind the people who take this call it has never been the justice and there has been a come. back to politicking i'm talking with david jolly former u.s. representative seven. cents from tampa you spec'd any

meaningful action on the gun issue. i think we will see the laws change but the question is will they change in the direction far enough to really accomplish any prevention so what we are seeing at the state level is for instance that debate and also happening nationally do we raise the age we're also seeing do we harden schools are there additional restrictions on assault weapons but at the end of the day larry the answers are pretty straightforward we need comprehensive and universal background checks and that means every single gun transaction should be subjected to a deep background check that doesn't exist and really was unlikely to pass even in the current debate that would include the moment you go to purchase a firearm your mental health records do have to be evaluated if that's there that's a change in conversation for americans to have i think we need to address an assault weapons ban or whether or not we make them so difficult to get and we also need to address and forstmann president trump has. suggested through his

immigration policy and he has shown that he is going into people's homes and workplaces and removing people because they have violated our immigration laws he should put the same level of them foresman into enforcing gun laws and going after the people that illegally trade in these arms they can do that david during congress do be n.r.a. contribute to campaigns in my very first campaign and congress was the first office i'd run for so i didn't have a voting record and my very first campaign i believe they gave five or ten thousand dollars to my candidate committee and then they came in with about one hundred thousand dollars of negative independent ads against my opponent and coordinated with myself but certainly i knew they were spending money larry once i got to congress and started voting they weren't very happy with my voting record and after the polls nightclub shooting in orlando i went out on a limb and and offered a compromise bill to address the terror watch list i also became the only

republican to co-sponsor a bill require universal background checks as a result of all that the next time i ran not only did they not support me but they supported my democratic opponent because they were so angry with the votes i had taken that they did not agree with why did they have such power. so we do have to talk about the n.r.a. in two different ways first is the amount of money they have very deep pockets that they spend on races and in the united states we know it is very expensive to run a race that really is the undue influence of the n.r.a. but we also have to look at the influence that there truly is nothing wrong with it and by that i mean the voters i listen have a very mobilized membership that believes deeply in second amendment issues and if you're an elected official you don't get to choose the constituents you listen to and those you ignore and so the responsibility for a member of congress is to balance the interests and concerns of the second amendment advocates with those asking for more gun control the deep pockets out of

washington to distort accountability but we can't overlook the fact that there are voters who hold very deeply to the second amendment issues the president has already announced that he's wanting to again in twenty twenty you on this program said that you're involved in finding someone to run against him in primaries is there anything he could do in his first term to change your mind about that. you know i don't think so but that's a very important question because republican critics of the president like myself we do always have to ask are there things he is doing that are consistent with republican orthodoxy and there are but on matters of a president who continues to undermine democratic institutions the rule of law our judiciary continue to attack free press frankly on matters of some would say moral fitness of course we're no nobody is perfect but but the way in which he represents

the highest office in the land on those matters i don't think that people like myself can ever reconcile with this president's administration the attack on rule of law is something we've never seen in the likes of a republican or a democrat or when we have we've seen it rise to impeachment charges so i think the country would be better off with somebody other than donald trump and my efforts in two thousand and twenty will be towards that end david jolly as always thanks we have done today. great to be with you thanks larry i'm now joined on set by robert c. o'brien former u.s. representative to the u.n. general assembly during the george w. bush administration he was also senior advisor to the presidential campaigns of mitt romney and scott walker it's always good having him with us ok first robert so many things happen with this administration this news every other minute the director of the national security agency admiral mike rogers recently

told congress that the trumpet ministration is not doing enough to counter russia's efforts to cyber meddle in elections i know you know mike what do you make of that . the russians have been our adversaries for a long time you know i grew up in an age where you know we thought we'd go to war with russia someday that didn't happen which was great the end of the cold war ended but the russians have kept up their their efforts against the united states have never given up they were active during the obama years are going to be active in the trump years and we have to be vigilant we have to push back against vladimir putin and russian aggression against our allies in europe but also their attempts to meddle in our elections that's just something we can't we can't allow why do you think the president doesn't take among congress once sanctions he doesn't implement them. are you concerned about that look i think president trump has done something that you know president obama didn't do and he's showing a real toughness we're rebuilding the american forces in eastern europe general mattis has been there are multiple times with government reins training in norway

so you know folks can look and say he's not saying enough or you know his rhetoric isn't right but when you look at what we're doing we're reinforcing our allies we're putting american combat brigades in eastern europe and poland and estonia latvia lithuania the russians know we're serious look we you know they've killed probably two hundred russians in syria a couple weeks ago no one's talking about that i don't think that what happened in the obama administration so i think president bush has to airbases me present trumps take a tough line on the russians but rhetorically he's maybe dialed back a little to you know why would you guess what you know look you'd have to speculate why larry you know we don't know all the negotiations are taking place we don't know you know there are things going on in syria obviously where we need russian cooperation we need the conflict in syria we need to try and protect the civilians who are being slaughtered by bashar al assad in syria so there's a whole range of issues where we have to cooperate with the russians but there are

also issues where we have to push back hard to meddle in our elections is one of those red lines where we do have to push back hard on the russians your advisor to mitt romney he's going to room for the senate in utah president's already had dorst him even though romney slammed the trump as a phony and trump call romney a loser. will lead him to where he's a shoo in in utah right if he were under communist rule in boston you know he's going to is going to win in utah i actually told the governor it is going to win by fifty points it's going to be so goddy it's in a look like one of the african strongman elections he's is the one very big and utah and look he's going to go on to be a great senator i think that the senate needs and i was speaking with a ranking republican senator the other day who said i'm really looking forward to having governor romney as a colleague and i think he's going to bring a real breath of fresh air in the united states senate i've got a way for him to criticize from threw out of the democrats put them on their ballot to. you know they're going to have a candidate but i think they're going to

a lot of democrats in utah who probably vote for governor romney just because a they like them and they and think he would've been a good present maybe they feel guilty because it will stand as a trump do you think when he disagrees with them i think will it look governor romney is not going to you know go to the senate to be a rubber stamp i think he is going to agree with present from for people who think he's going to go lead some resistance in the senate that's not going to the case governor romney is a republican he's going to support a republican agenda and where we're the president and governor romney agree on things i think he's in a fine support but there are going to be times when they disagree and i think governor romney will be be forceful in those disagreements according to new york times robert united nations experts have found that north korea has been supplying the syrian government with materials for chemical weapons lending credence to the long held suspicions that syria is continuing to use the weapons against its own people but your reaction it's just terrible i mean you look at what's happening now i thought that you know after rwanda after serbia and bosnia that we wouldn't see

this again we're seeing innocent men women and children slaughtered with with chlorine gas and and chemical attacks that are just the most dastardly things that you can imagine and it's hard to watch t.v. it's hard to watch the pictures of these kids those in with us. well he's going to whatever it takes to cling to power those are you know those are hamas rules he learned that from his dad who kill your own people is dead killed fifty thousand people in a city called on the killed everybody that was in revolt against them and they literally paved over the city bulldozed down their houses and paid it paved over their cities he watched his dad do it i he's going to do the same thing and look he's backed by the iranians who you know their goal is to have a an empire that stretches from the mediterranean you know all the way to the red sea and they want to they want to have their influence in iraq they want to control syria they want to control lebanon through hezbollah alternately they'd like to

encircle and conquer israel if they could these are very brutal people they're very hard people and and we've got to stand up to south korea wants is to talk to north korea good or bad. look it's always worth talking there's you know i don't i'm a i'm a diplomat i think you always have to talk it has to be backed up by strong policy strong sanctions policies and we've got always leave options on the table but there's no reason not to talk. the south korea says don't have preconditions now you're a veteran diplomat why are there preconditions to talks you know what you don't want to deal with some of these dictatorships is that you don't want to give them face or give them something for nothing and for them to be able to to show up at talks often allows them to go their own people or to go to influence other people around the world sand look we're we're standing next to the americans or we're standing next the american president so you want to make sure that they're coming to the table with real intent to talk about the issues that are important but in this case let the north koreans know what we want we wanted to in the nuclear

program we're not going to ease up on sanctions and so i don't i don't see any reason not for vice president pence or for whoever else in the ministration what you know wants to talk to north koreans i don't see a danger of that as long as we don't have sanctions ahead of time president wrote was asked about the latest relay of sanctions assuming that the. less course would be to human vision do we could go to war with north korea. look it's possible we want to avoid it at all costs because it would be an extraordinarily difficult war to win and we would win it there's no doubt about that but it would be at the cost of significant blood and treasure and it would be very very very hard on our allies in south korea you know what i've called on in the on your show many times in the past and we're starting to see it is we've got to have crippling rhodesia style sanctions on the north koreans we really have to cut them off from the outside world so they can't get money for their nuclear program they can't get money for their elite to continue to live the high life whether people are starving

and we have to pressure them so much that it no longer becomes worth it to produce a person with a nuclear course now whether whether that will be successful or not i don't know but at least we're given a shot right now and we need china. it would we china's shares a border with north korea unless china is going to cut off the fuel to north korea unless they're going to cut off the the supply of missile components and and armaments to north korea then it's not going to work so we don't need the chinese to play ball they're going to scrap the existing presidential term limits in china they want or they want a perennial dictating you know we're seeing a very dangerous trend that's happening the world we're seeing with what amir putin in russia we're seeing it with aragon in turkey we're seeing it with the g. it's the return in china we're seeing the return of the strongman and ultimately while in the short term it may bring stability to a country in the long term being run by a dictator is not good for a country it's not good for the chinese people and and there's actually been you

know somewhat of a a revolt on social media against scrapping the term limits against president and in china and the censors have been working overtime to shut down their equivalent of twitter to make sure that the chinese people can't air their grievances over this north korea china russia what keeps you up the most at night short term north korea they've got a madman with a nuclear weapon and again we've talked on your show over the years that when he didn't win when he didn't have a delivery system when he didn't have the i.c.b.m.'s to get him to california or denver or chicago or washington d.c. it was less of a problem for us but now he has he's got the nuclear weapons and he's got a delivery system to put us in danger so short term that keeps me awake at night long term the chinese are are becoming very aggressive and now with with the g. taking this you know president for life type position we've got to be very wary of the chinese always great having the rank you serve great guests love them thank you for joining me on this edition of politicking remember you can join the

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about his country's efforts to navigate the political waters between russia and the . call welcome to. shevardnadze serbia cherishes its political neutrality and trying to stay away from global confrontations but how will that play out with serbia's aspirations for membership. in belgrade today to talk about all of this with serbia's foreign minister. serbia was firmly on course to join the european union just today to being a pariah state by the west yet the legacy of war during the ninety's is putting a roadblock in belgrade. was old question of kosovo could still succession

what are you prepared to do to secure the membership what happens if it's forced to choose between old alliances and new ones under one point during the relationship will build great finally draw the line. for i said that she said it's really great to have you on our program one more time it's been a couple of years already lots to talk about so the president wants to join the european union but he also says that there's no way he will allow serbia in russia relations to go sour you know and russian relations right now are not at its best and. we don't know when they will get better so seeing how all the other e.u. members fall in line regarding sanctions against russia why do you think that you will be able to defy brussels when the time comes. but we'll live in a time of russia in the world. so when i was in the white house and talk to the

national security advisor mcmaster he literally said that the american influence is good in the russian influence as harmful in case of serbia it did not prove to be true in the past seeing how over the past few decades many principles of the international law have been violated in the example of serbia first of all the borders of serbia have been changed by recognition of the unilaterally declared independence of kosovo serbia belongs to europe joe graphically politically and historically and it's only logical that our interests in becoming the member of the european union is based on i would say personal experience. i held different positions in government as prime minister and as the minister of foreign affairs and i have never heard anyone from the russian side speaking negatively of our wish to join the european union is the only thing that russia expects it will not result

in an anti russian position which serbia is not at all interested in doing. one of the conditions is to harmonize our foreign policy with that of the european union and that is where russia comes in. joining the sanctions against the russian federation you know there are some countries which posed this question at every meeting you probably know which countries i'm referring to the always criticize serbia for not joining the sanctions against the russian federation but were surely not going to join the sanctions and in that sense we shall continue to develop good relations with the russian federation. of rove has awarded you with an order of friendship which is very high wart from the russian government in this piece that you call off third. you have denounced the either with us or against us pro. foreign policy but the way people see it is that if you're not part of any camp then you're not anyone's friend really. our position that

we're not on anyone's side who would like to be members of the european union but on the other hand we have good bilateral relations with the russian federation and we have no intention of those relations just to become a european union member on the other hand who love serbia have to take care of our national interests as well. pursuing untied russian policies would be to our detriment so we're not sitting on two chairs we have our own share. because that's exactly what a representative of the state department. said you can't be sitting on it to charity do you feel like america could pressure you some point but. he resigned so i don't really have a response to his claims that i'm more into the view that serbia should seek common ground with the western interests in

a sense that they should take an impartial stance towards us we have had good relations with the united states and the u.k. we were allies in wars but during the crisis of the nineteen ninety s. they practically diverted a lot from us which resulted in their airstrikes against us. and then there was this operation storm in croatia as well not to mention the unilateral declaration of independence by kosovo. in that sense it is necessary for the western countries to understand that there will be no peace in the region without searching for a common solution without searching for something that is acceptable to all and speaking about the relations between russia and the united states we hope that there will be some sort of a warm up in these relations i was chairman of the o. s. c. in two thousand and fifteen it was the fortieth anniversary of the. i read a statement in written in one nine hundred seventy five by then president of yugoslavia and the statement that was made in helsinki with

a little adjustment for the times that's exactly the statement that i could have made today he was calling for detente alleviation of tension between the blocks even henry kissinger recently said that he hoped there would be some warm up in the relations between the united states and the russian federation because the next face gone like this would be war and no one should be stupid enough to enter a war that would lead to total destruction on those things before unless you know the best way to have a determined right now between america and russia is to find common ground for something and i know that law said that russia and the united states could become part of the cost of the serbian negotiations do you think an attorney could help here. we have never heard from the united states that they would like to take part in those negotiations. billions from course of or see they are actually seeking the

involvement of the united states in addition to the european union's involvement on the other hand we have to keep in mind that those proposals are put forward we have to acknowledge them and in that case we would like to invite the russian federation to join as well in the talks that president had with president putin and with foreign minister lavrov and myself russia has expressed readiness to join the process but actually we don't feel it is necessary to expand this story right now on. i know the president supports. but. that there's no way to recognize. dependence get something in return what kind of concessions are you looking here for. it's been ten years after the unilateral declaration of independence of course of all and it's still an experiment regardless of the fact that cause the way has been recognized by some states also hasn't completed its independence from because it has not become

a member and member of other organizations there are a lot of countries that do not recognize it like russia china india indonesia iran iraq. argentina mexico ethiopia south africa spain five e.u. members haven't recognized cost of all. over the past few months we've managed to have some of the countries revoked their recognition means that the process is still alive and not over yet no one can have a session without an agreement with the country from which they wish to seem in that sense for dialogue some european countries say that serbia has to say that serbia must recognize kosovo's independence but that's not a compromise serbia will never recognize the you know lots of really declared independence of course when the countries which advise us to do so when they do that themselves there are some other standards put in that because from the tone of

president. people gather that maybe there is a chance that there could be a compromise for instance i know that the serbs that have been living in the north of costs a lot they have enjoyed the fact independence they will always been supported by great great wants them to integrate with the cost of us what is what if i don't know for instance as an option serbian access to northern part of costa little populated with a serbs and maybe recognize independence could that be a working compromise. we have our own proposals on how the compromise could look like. and pretty no i don't consider it mrs. to even enter a compromise they don't want to discuss they just want to discuss that recognize their independence and that is unacceptable for us we can have discussions on other issues we have an internal dialogue on how do.