that i believe we have long term relationships we have also we are bound by the same culture from the hundred and forty million russians hundred million of the russians are christian so we share the same values when it comes to our identity we are patriotic countries as well we are the victims both of islamic terrorism in the past and even today we have a lot of trade so i think there is so much that we both could benefit from better relations of course there is also a lot of problems between nato the european union and russia and i'm not saying that i want to ignore all that but i believe that as to date if you only shout at one another if you only build up the almost wall rhetoric that at the end of the day you will not come any step further would you think of letting me putin is a is a world leader well runnymede putin is

a leader whatever you think of him and i criticize a lot of his policies but i applaud him as i applaud mr trump for being leaders that are standing there on behalf of the russian and the american people as i said before this interview we lack that kind of leadership in europe europe being a non entity countries combined almost thirteen hour days and still trying to enlarge whether was a total lack of common sense and identity and therefore i believe this to put in mr trump. more favorable than our own leaders when it comes to the policies also of course i have a lot of criticism when it comes to the amount of democracy and freedom of speech when it comes to the crim when it comes to parts of the policy of.

in the middle east when it comes to the relations with iran when it comes to the seventeen where once again i hope that they would work whoever is responsible work with the dutch authorities but still it's a country that we share a lot with that we have a lot of common interests that we i don't consider as an enemy there was a lot of enmity too much amity russia is not our enemy the russian people are certainly not our enemy we should understand each other better work together and not only talk in russophobia or in in wartime talk and that is what is happening today it's a disgrace that our minister of foreign affairs at to step down the day he planned to go to visit mr lovell of russia because he lied about being an adult share with mr putin and because he lied about the fact that mr putin would have sat that he

wanted to have a greater russia including kazakhstan even bella who was and ukraine and the baltic states and he had to step down because it was all lies it was all russophobia fake news and that's not how it will work if we need russia and america as an ally we should engage in responsible adult conversation you mentioned donald trump dhimmitude in the list don't trump because the media is very dangerous to believe what you read and hear in the media often but they regularly compare you with donald trump do you see any similarities to see big differences how do you ideologies can know maybe some of them speak about the hair i don't know whether it's true or not but now i'm not to be compared with donald trump or anybody else not because it would be insult or maybe a compliment but i'm my own man i'm in politics. mr trump

is in politics and with all respect to mr trump i don't need to look like him or anything else landis' liberation isn't it that's the thing that people and if you look at the policy he says america first and i don't want to have more immigration and i want to jobs for americans instead of mexicans or chinese and i want fair trade deals instead of deals where the american people have to be in some kind of development scheme for other countries to have more economical growth so yes i support that i believe today in europe we face even something worse than an economical problem we face what i call an x. the stench of problem because of all those open borders that we have in the invitations of leaders like uncle america who said to be a chef from this we will make it come into our society and for the last decades millions of people have come and they unfortunately not always assimilate that is a toxic combination to have open borders and no demands of assimilation integration

of foreigners in your own society i have nothing against the people i have nothing against muslims but i know that if you look at the end of the century the united nations predicts that there will be an explosion of the demographics in africa at the end of the century as we go from one billion people to four billion people at the same time there will be an decrease of people in europe and this also predict that one third of those four billion will leave africa or will come to europe many of them will be with an islamic background and unfortunately i believe that islam is not there to assimilate people can assimilate with the islamic ideology will not and europe is not an islamic entity either so this is what i also spoke about that in the duma and at the ministry of foreign affairs the stability in the region the stability in the middle east on africa how do we deal. mess immigration not only

today but in the future is something that we have in common with a russia or without russia i believe in the future it will be very much more problematic to deal and to solve the just to clarify because you you know the issue of islam and immigration is it fundamentally just islamic immigrants that you're against you know the opposed to just immigration on its own now today because of the immigration crisis of the last few years it's very difficult to have any more immigrants at all but we advocate my party at the stop of immigrants from non-western mostly islamic countries and today those are indeed the majority used majority of the asylum seekers or immigrants coming to the netherlands and to western euro is this because you feel that they're harder to assimilate for them to join in to become part of society well first most of them are not refugees i mean you have to make a distinction between asylum seekers and immigrants those are two separate groups

you saw than the last few years to europe millions of asylum seekers came who actually were no asylum seekers many of them travelled to five or six so-called safe countries before they entered germany or holland of the united kingdom or any other country because of their big fat welfare state they did not stop a dog area and they did not go to lithuania either. still if people seek refugee if people are unsafe i believe they deserve shelter whoever they are and whatever background they have but why not is it the case that today or in the last few years rich arab countries islamic countries like gulf states or saudi arabia who have the same culture the same climate the same ideology or religion who are not the poorest countries in the world why don't mean didn't they take in some of the real refugees as well even though i'm again. more islamic immigrants to holland

that that's not the same right that by claiming that all those people are bad people that is not the case there are also many people in holland from islamic origin that have assimilated and integrated and are doing very well we're all day with some muslims coming in to the netherlands how do you get them to adapt and not be one of the problems i would propose to have no more immigrants from islamic countries holland today we already have in holland out of a population of seventy million one million muslims and we have a lot of problems with them already now over representation in crime and social benefits the university of amsterdam which actually is quite a leftist liberal institution made a survey not so long ago that prove that eleven percent of the muslims in holland today which is a hundred and ten thousand people. sat there they are willing to use violence in

the netherlands in the name of islam it's twice the amount of the soldiers and the dutch army people are not acting like it today but are willing to do that in the name of islam so we have a huge problem so i would say no stop no more immigration from islamic countries for the people already and our societies if you as many very luckily do and i. certainly the first one to admit if you abide by our laws by our constitution by our values you are not only welcome to stay but you are equal as anybody else and we wish you the best life for you and your children your family but if you don't if you cross the red line that is called the dutch law that is called our constitution if you start acting according to sharia law a lot of surveys if you don't mind telling you said that more than fifty percent sixty percent of dutch muslims find that islamic law sharia law is more important to them than the. which civil constitution and the dutch civil law made by

parliament that is totally unacceptable in any democracy so that's why i'm talking about an ex the stand your problem we don't hate people but we want to stay free and in order to stay free and to for our children and grandchildren to exist we have to stop the islamist nation of our society and this is something people might find it surprising but also russia is talking about is thinking about there is an islamic community or russia that existed as long as russia that is integrated and assimilated but they also have today a lot of working force coming from other parts of asia to russia today and if you ask people on the street it's not like like holland or the united kingdom or denmark or germany or belgium or france today they sense the issues and we can work together here i'm sure.

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stability within the region that is the board then. we're there to be the no one has done or for the region the presence of foreign troops inside of one is not born with the region for a one month. fifty years ago britain and within to come together as a sleeping pill and justice would turn to justice. the side effects were terrible but not on. the wall. across europe victims are still watching the legal battles demanding at least some compensation in two ways first will the physical damage itself as well that the concert mind. the people who actually perpetrated this crime has never been born to

justice and there has been a couple. who join me every thursday on the alex simon sure and i'll be speaking to get us from the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. another gun some is not is not a good place is not a good country and. just to give the minister a live bunch of among us well i love to stump. you this but that's a distro that is glued. to the culture. of the cold with this issue of the. tragedy of christmas. morning is just the embrace from the muslim of themselves to be the middle. mostly albums fossil of. play almost anything from the

members of the base the lot of their kind our dad john said on based on our much heard us no one can i do not blast color we just rise from topic matter how not it came. from a shallow tummy and cannot. confront mom i cannot move he was almost feel now with will to fuck a moment. could not see this or to my son enough hours ago show he is able to sit out only to go to the snooze in the micra voices in his or the one of the street the. cinema of our government allows us. to see others who are supposed to. you've proposed in the past the travel ban in the e.u. so i want to know how you feel about e.u. policies when it comes to immigration well you know my party supported the current prime minister's government. a few years ago for two years time they'll go to one

government was for the first time in the history was a minority government that's very common in scandinavia it was the first time and without the support of my party the government would not have been able to exist and we made a deal in exchange for our support for some billions of austerity measures that my party didn't like to be honest that we signed off on it we got in return a tougher immigration policy so our minister of immigration travelled through all the european union because we send the way we gave away the key to our front ball already we are not in charge of our own immigration policy anymore and had to travel and he was not able to find a majority or even a qualified majority that you need a europe to support the idea that the dutch would have a stronger immigration policy the belgians or the eastern europeans are as they thought well if all of this stuff they will probably come to my country more

immigrants we don't want that to happen so my point is that i would. believe that if you want to have a stronger immigration policy it cannot be done within the context of the european union that's what you want the netherlands out of the european union because you're part of a club that playing by rules that you don't agree with exactly and i believe that next it the dutch the netherlands leaving the european union would be the best for us and my party issued a report about the consequences of the netherlands both leaving the european union and leaving the euro zone and it was commissioned by a prestigious bureau of the united kingdom or even won the wolfson prize of economics who really. prestigious bureau and it proves that as is happening in the united kingdom today that in the first few years to be honest it would hurt it would hurt a lot but after that if you would have not the ties of. the european

union if you would not have to pay the bill of the southern european countries that we did with greece with cyprus with portugal maybe in a future with countries like italy where then the eurozone you know we have to cut expenditure of the dutch pension is we have to raise the premiums of our of our own social security in order to send the money to greece people don't want it people don't like that so i believe we should get out of it it will hurt in the beginning but the end of the day we will benefit from an even more important i believe that the real democracy can only for orosz in the concept of a nation state and a nation state needs a national flag a national anthem a national culture but also to be in charge of your own budget and to be in charge of your own immigration policy it's everybody who's looking to this program today will understand that if you lost or gave away the front the key of your own from

the off your own house you are not in charge anymore of who will or when the guest should leave there can be no national sovereignty if you don't have the key to the front of your own house so i believe we should do that and of course i want to work to get the european union how it started in the fifty's as an institution with economical cooperation holland was one of the six founding members it was perfect it was ideal but it unfortunately it came from an economical union it transferred in the political union if you look at what's happened in america are you not concerned that you know pushing for an exit and being anti immigration might split your country right down the middle like it seems to them with the united states to not look at them and think maybe that's not the direction we're. to go it. well i don't think holland will become america tomorrow we are a different country again we share a lot with the americans but we are not americans i believe that what we want to

what america has even though it's a federal state what we were long for is national sovereignty we are patriots there is nothing wrong. about being a patriot going above ground do you think vince the many people who don't want these policies that it's the best thing for them because it's certainly not work for donald trump and he's fighting at every turn of the country at least wouldn't you be in the same position well you know maybe it's even easier for donald trump because america is more or less a two party system. you get all you get nothing and whatever you think of mr trump he won the elections and he's the president of the united states both as today it's far more difficult to holler once again my party became the second biggest party one and a half million people voted for us but indeed for majority it's not enough our parliament because this even our government consists of four parties the biggest

party of the dutch prime minister today only has twenty percent of the vote you need three four five parties to get a majority still in order to beat this what i called mention to you this x. this problem which is more than about immigration it's about national values it's about the security of our people is about the safety of our children and grandchildren it's about our identity it's about our economy there will be no alternative and the longer we wait. the tougher it will be to create that country that another is that you want do you need to be the prime minister do you want to be the problem is of course every politician who. says you that he does not want to be the prime minister is i think more liar than telling the truth of course i would lie. to be the prime minister. but even though still if somebody else would be the prime minister that would be fine as well as long as he's taking into account the

interest of the dutch people everybody can criticize mr trump that he believes that he's fighting for the interests of the american people everybody can criticize mr putin but mr putin thinks about only one thing and that is the interest of the russian people in holland we have a prime minister that i believe doesn't even know what the dutch people are like egos to brussels and he has the wheel and deal with all the other european union countries and and then go to copenhagen and then for lunch to undergo a miracle and then the find a compromise from a compromise from a compromise and nothing will change so i'm longing for leadership and i of course i would like to be the leader myself but to any leader who takes the interests of their own people first and of course you have to work with other countries and of course you don't have to build a wall around your country i will be a favor of economical a corporation or corporation and the level that it doesn't have to be institutionalized in a body like the european union where we transfer national sovereignty to it can be

done on a voluntary basis on behalf of a country after the national parliament says it's ok a lot of people listening to your views on islam will be thinking what are you yourself are you religious do you believe in god well i wrote the book marked for death it was published in america not so long ago. and translated and i'm very i'm very inversion and there. i explain that i am an apple state i. don't really believe in a god but i cannot deny that there is a got a little bit more important than that i believe in christian values you know if you disagree with each other you either have come. passion or you talk with one another and you engage in a debate i don't believe in if you decide if you disagree with our totally tarion ideologically ideologically like i said islam or you want to leave it the penalty

is death or we will put you in jail so that the values of christianity are shared by so many people in western europe and even in russia even though they do not consider themselves christians the amount of christians i believe is on the decrease in many parts of europe but the support for christian values and the fight for freedom against the totally tarion ism of islam is on a winning mode from my own personal experience i would suggest that if somebody is hated by large portions of society or organizations are either doing something very very right or very very wrong have you ever just realized yourself and just thought you know i'm on the wrong side of this will history judge me that i got this wrong have you self evaluated yes and i believe. i'm not a historian and i cannot speak about future people are they remember me that would

be court desk will not do that but i really truly believe in what i'm doing and a lot of people once again one and a half million people voted for me and my party which made us the second biggest party in the kingdom of the netherlands which is for party that only exist for ten years. an enormous accomplishment and i believe that i'm doing the right thing i'm even willing and i gave my personal freedom for that and all the people today we have municipality elections in a few weeks time and holland will go for my party and stand up and our candidates for the municipalities are heroes because you are right they are loved by many people but they are hated by anybody else and this is the situation maybe in many western countries certainly in holland today that if you speak out if you are not afraid to tell the truth if you address the issues you know it will love or hate it

. where are you then in realizing you'll you'll goal your dream for the country you want the second largest party was not a success for you in the last election how do you build how do you create the coalition it sounds like you would need a coalition to achieve your goals yes well we did not become the first but that's true so. a lot of people hoped for that my body would become the number one party in holland and we did not achieve that to be honest but we want seats we went from fifteen seats in our lower house to twenty seats so we were one of the biggest winners the party of the prime minister who became the biggest party lost a third or quarter of a seat in parliament so there was the biggest party who lost and we the second party who won still because of all the issues we are talking about today stopping of the islamization getting out of the european union other parties unwilling to

work with us the only thing you can do and the only thing i always did and will do i lost my own personal freedom for almost fourteen years now i live on the twenty four seven protection my wife and i left an army barracks in prison cells just in order to be safe because organizations like the taliban put a price on my head and i know one thing never given as the great winston churchill once said never give in if you believe you are doing the right thing whatever the price and the consequences continue and it might be difficult and you might not achieve it to morrow but if you are doing the right thing i'm here russia it was on the eight o'clock news as we spoke before in holland that they tried to make me very unpopular because of that but i believe i'm doing the right thing on behalf of a big part of my own people and that's why i do it and that's why i will continue to do it.

in some american cities the police have built themselves cling to wreck each nation people who walk on the streets of the united states who are at risk from the very people who are supposed to protect that poor people are no more afraid of police than of us from the most. you can see something happening and this is like i don't want to call the cops let that happen rather than call the cops in those young black men lose their lives chasing the with the fingers on the trigger you never know better safe than sorry i don't know that someone else is going to pull a gun so yes unfortunately around around here we end up killing our guns a lot to me from such precautions to. every single p.-l.

and every single corporation in america has a guy sitting at a desk using gage and fraudulent training to attract money from the markets and back up america and causing taxes to go up because of fraudulent programs like obamacare rip it off because infrastructure projects that god causes people to living on the street living in their own feces because guys on wall street are think it's necessary to create scams to just rip capital out of these markets. still in the country in a genuine evil bottle maasai in china six oir get. an estimated eighteen fastens under-age refugees are now living in greece. you know still more go. to your home in there you go food shopping and. many sell their

bodies just to. you know the one the second oh yes you know all the sins in there that. this isn't good enough things. to dealing drugs to make a living. and most of the. game and they've been. focused on ending the war and that's not intermingled the humanitarian concern which is the bombing of hospitals or bombing of civilians the shelling of damascus by rebel groups that's not enough so the bombing by the u.s. as much earlier there's a mix of that with the political objectives which some people may still have.

teaching it terror a u.k. court conviction islamic state follower who showed school children images of beheadings and was attempting to create an army of young extreme. western media speculates about an arms race between russia and america after president putin reveals details of his country's a new and cutting edge nuclear arsenal we'll look at whether the headlines are reflect the reality of the situation. and we hear exclusively from the controversial leader of the dutch party for freedom who is under fire at home for promoting russian other ones relations and during a recent visit to moscow.