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the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle the united states and russia have announced their nuclear weapons posture both countries are entering a new age of war the age of hypersonic weapons we are told russia's hypersonic weapons can render u.s. led missile defense systems useless can washington allow this to stand and are we now in a new arms race. across

talking hypersonic wars i'm joined by my guest george samuel in new york he is a fellow at the global policy institute of london and author of the book bombs for peace in lake jackson we have daniel mcadams he's the executive director of the ron paul institute for peace and prosperity and in london we have married a chef skee she is a columnist for the independent and the guardian all right cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate mary let me go to you first here are the reactions to president putin's address to the joint some bully. parliament last week was like a thunderbolt for a lot of people and of course it was roundly condemned no context was given except for the russians are bad and aggressive behavior that's what we hear all the time but the fact of the matter is and i'm sure this applies to everyone here and many of our viewers if you look back at. for example in two thousand and two when the

united states unilaterally moved away dropped the anti-ballistic missile treaty the very foundation of arms control speed up to the munich security conference in two thousand and seven read that speech read the speech that putin gave to the general assembly the united nations in two thousand and fifteen and then we have last week what i'm doing is connecting a lot of dots anyone that's paying attention understands perfectly well what's going on here ok mary go right go ahead. well i think that everybody sort of thinks that they understand what's going on but one thing that they certainly didn't understand or at least i felt that about the british reaction was that they did not understand that putin is in an election campaign so i think you have to understand that this was a state of the nation speech given in the context of a russian election in less than a month's time and it's all very well for people in the west to say oh it's not a proper election no putin's bound to win and there's no contest and all that is

probably true but the fact is that there is a campaign and putin needs to get his vote out and i think without that context the picture is incomplete but if we go back to the actual substance of what putin was talking about to end of course the spectacular visual effects that played behind him i knew i watched that speech live and i knew what the response was going to be as soon as he was talking i knew what it was going to be it was going to be about a new cold war it was going to be about russian war mongering and it was going to be about a new arms race and yet if you read very carefully or if you listened to what putin was actually saying he was talking about russian security he was talking about the american unilateral abrogation of the missile defense

treaty and about how the united states had been developing that particular branch of weapons technology defense technology and russia had decided and now achieved its aim of catching up very well i mean i don't think the election playing really has anything to do it is because the speech that he gave was supposed to be given last december. but the they were interested paving the nuclear posture review and they held it back so with all due respect to mary i don't think it has anything new with domestic politics ok but daniel the but one of the things is that i think and i've been watching president putin from the time he came into office he's not one prone to embellish or to exaggerate as a matter of fact it's very straightforward and to the point here and i think this is this speech was a reaction they digested all of these military and security reviews the trumpet ministration is put put out and well the russians are putting their marker down and

i think that it was it was and then i'll agree with mary i mean after all the broken promises all of these new weapons systems russia said ok we can push back and we will go ahead daniel. you know i think there is an element of electioneering and i think if it's not perhaps a somewhat more subtle but i can imagine that president putin has a lot of his he has a lot of vulnerability in a way on his right for lack of better term people in russia russian voters who are expecting him to be a little bit more responsive to u.s. provocations to nato provocations on russia's border to us occupying thirty percent of syria illegally i can imagine that's where his weakness is if he has any weakness among russian voters people saying why are we sitting there letting them walk all over us so in that sense perhaps that is entering into his mind but otherwise i mean if that is the case how different is that than any u.s. presidential campaign where they all try to outflank each other being more much

more pro-war than anyone else you know it george the a no in my in my first question to mary i mean i kind of gave the lineage there. it's really quite remarkable to me that how remarkable the response has been because if you're been looking at arms control and the u.s. russia relations over the last decade or so. you know russia is basically telling the united states that your threats against our sovereignty stop now and we have the means to react in very forcefully and it's called defending your sovereignty nothing more than that go ahead george though that's exactly right and that's why he. brought up the issue of the united states with rolled from the a.b.m. treaty but there's obviously a more to it than that i mean there is also the nato expansion right to russia's borders and there is essentially now but the

constant belligerent anti russian rhetoric now emanating from the western capitals and when you build up arms on russia's borders. and you start actually shooting at russians in syria and when you combine that with the russian hysteria in in washington in london in other capitals then you've got a very serious situation and i think you're absolutely right peter when you said that putin is not one to rhetorical flourish he's not want to exaggerate to bloviate he's not donald trump so he has a very serious person and i think he was putting down a marker and say stop this now before it gets out of control because we mean business exactly if you carry on like this it is going to end badly you know mary the over the years when they were before the negotiations with the iran nuclear

deal the pentagon constantly was telling russia that all these in these anti-missile defense systems in poland and remain were many they have nothing to do with you it's all directed against iran and then when the deal is signed they actually admit to that well we still have to keep them there is it because of russia well yes because ok i mean this is the kind of relations and partnership russia has with nato you can't believe what they say ok or they talk out of both sides of the mouth at the same time with russia did with putin did exactly what he promises his promise the russian people that a war will never be fought on this country soil ever again and he's making sure that happens go ahead mary. well i think that there is a perpetual problem between russia and nato as to who is on defense and who is on oftentimes and who acted first and we saw this most graphically and most recently with ukraine but we've seen it all before with the expansion of nato and we've seen

it since ukraine with the strengthening of the nato presence in the border states in the in the baltic states in poland where it said that this needs to happen as a reassuring defensive all nato is part because of what they see as the increased threat from russia and then of course you go to moscow and russia says well we've got all this sort of advance presence suddenly in the new countries of nato and we have to defend ourselves against that at which point nato starts talking about you remember the big or maybe not quite so big russian military exercise last summer which was completely hyped by nato spokesman and western ministers which turned out to have been a fraction oh they were too and of course mary these speeds these exercises are player now and still in advance they were made public observers are allowed to come

again this hype here i mean also daniel you know what also on top of it here you have lethal weapons being sold to the ukrainians if you look at the the pentagon's nuclear posture review it discusses the possibility of a first strike this is throwing away his entire history of arms control not only did they rip up the b.m. treaty they're actually even going further there's no interest in the west about a new start to intermediate weapons and they're no there's no talking about that ok again this is one of the reasons why putin said what he had to say go ahead dan you . you know i think the the anti-ballistic missile batteries in poland and romania that you referenced earlier was also about enabling a western first strike prohibiting retaliation i think president putin said many times before this is not about defense this is to enable all offense but you mentioned earlier you know hysteria and i think the u.s.

is is under such a cloud of mass hysteria that it's palpable you know this past week in italy there were elections where the non-mainstream parties did very very well and some one joke how soon until explained on russia well into today already has just a day later played on russia by none other by samantha power by samantha power and here's here in italy are parties that were elected on an anti immigrant anti immigration policy why might it be concerned about immigration because samantha power herself was in favor of regime change in libya and syria and elsewhere that created the refugees so no matter what happens no matter the fact that power is behind this problem no it's all russia and that's what's happening in the u.s. it really is a mass hysteria in this country ok twenty seconds georgia mean no matter what the president of russia has to say has to say it's going to be taken into a specific context go ahead twenty seconds before we go to the break. yes always

specific context then because it's always assumed that russia is an aggressive power in it because it's the that is the propaganda trope and therefore there is no context whatsoever in which you know what is it that what the west to provoke this is a different resource let me jump in here how we're going to we're going to go to a hard break and after that hard break we'll continue our discussion on russia's new weapon state with a. new global economic war is unfolding in the realm of education the right to education is being supplanted by the right to access education. higher education is becoming

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