the refugees so no matter what happens no matter the fact that power is behind this problem no it's all russia and that's what's happening in the us it really is a mass hysteria in this country ok twenty seconds georgia mean no matter what the president of russia has to say has to say it's going to be taken into a specific context go ahead twenty seconds before we go to the break. yes oh always specific context then because it's always assumed that russia is an aggressive power in it because it's the that is the propaganda trope and therefore there is no context whatsoever in which you know what is it that what the west is to provoke this very different resources let me jump in here how we're going to we're going to go to a hard break and after that hard break we'll continue our discussion on russia's new weapon state with.

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welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some of brushes new weapons. ok not to go back to mary in london and i'd like to ask all of you basically two questions in this part of the program. how the russians implicitly at least acknowledge that there is a new cold war and very importantly mary you said you watched it. putin big reach out his hand to say there's still time to sit down and talk instead of all of the bluster ok because i think we are in

a new cold war i think we're going to find a new term for it because it's not ideological it's like more like a nineteenth century great power struggle but at least in those days you recognized and had respect for the other powers that's not the case today so those two questions are really new cold war and can the west reach out and say and sit down with the russians on these issues go ahead mary well my personal take on this is that actually we're not in a new cold war we're in something rather different we're in more of a sort of psychological stand off i think and i'm quite reluctant to refer to what's going on as a new cold war but i think implicitly you could read into what putin was saying and his approach that from russia's perspective it is treating this at least a bit like a new cold war and one of the things that i thought was so interesting you pointed out that he was calling for talks and saying you know there's still time for talks

but one of the one of the things i found quite telling about that was that he accused the west and the americans in particular of refusing to talk after the application of the a.b.m. treaty and. numerous as russia said. expressions of interest in holding talks with the americans the americans said no we're not going to talk and there's the clip of putin speech which was broadcast which was singled out a lot by russia watchers including by me where putin says well they didn't listen to us before they'll listen to us now. and i think that was in a way it was. it seemed to me that it was less of a threat than it was an expression of being very keen to be seen as an equal player to want to sit around the table with the americans on an

equal basis and that the development of these new weapons a new entitlement to sit at that table and that the united states had to listen you know well daniel i mean you're in russia is a very important nuclear power let's all face it ok we have an entire history of arms control agreements because because of the possibility of. a mistake a miscalculation that's why we have these agreements but they're running out running out in two thousand one hundred twenty twenty one and then we will have none of these things here so our i think it was prudent to reach out. but will the united states do it because considering the environment particularly in the united states i mean. trump has his hands tied i mean this is on these issues he cannot do anything go ahead danny. well i think it was a certainly a brilliant move by the neo cons they put in put him in a box they have prevented him from fulfilling any of his campaign promises if he

moves or even says putin without spitting. there he goes again these on putin's payroll so it is a disaster as to the question of whether in a new cold war i would almost say and i'm not the first who said this that we're actually in a new hot war during the cold war. the better minds in washington were doing their best to prevent an active conflict because russia is literally a threat as you point out because it has nuclear weapons in this new hot war with russia where russians are dying by the way you have people that are pushing usable nukes we need usable nukes in europe to fight another war with russia this is it's no longer the dr strangelove that we make fun of these are the people that are in power now so i think it is a far more dangerous situation than it was in the sixty's because george in the during the original cold war there was a code of honor you don't fight each other you use proxies and as daniel has pointed out we maybe we'll find out the truth because the pentagon is pretty

economical with the truth find out if they are actually intentionally targeting russian contractors and in syria you know george let me ask you something. i know the americans would hate this idea but why don't we have a global arms control agreement on nuclear weapons so you bring in the chinese also bring in the nato countries that have the bomb india pakistan israel it doesn't it it made it but it has it in everybody does know that and even north korea now see the way it is global and everyone knows the rules of the game but the americans would never allow that to happen because in the case of the neo-cons negotiation is appeasement go ahead george yes yes you know i think that's an excellent i date oh it was always a very strange that the only participants in these nuclear disarmament. negotiations were used to be like the united states and the soviet union whereas

britain and france and china or the other nuclear powers they were just. out of it they were they went to consider but i just going back to what daniel said i think that. he's absolutely right i mean that this is a more dangerous situation than was the case during the cold war because during the cold war i mean there were the crises in berlin there was a crisis in cuba but other than that it never looked as if the united states and the soviet union would actually get into a shooting war i don't think that one can be sold blood say today the situation in ukraine i think is is quite serious and the americans seem quite happy to escalate this they are in syria again situation is quite a dangerous there americans are shooting at russians any one of these could spiral out of control so the front lines of this new. cold war are now much closer to

russia and. another much more dangerous so and i think which wasn't true during the cold war the original cold war there is a feeling among policymakers in washington that russia is basically very weak and that in any armed confrontation between america and russia america would win pretty easily and that the then the russians would have only one resort which is to escalate and you clear weapons but they're there they already think the russians would risk doing anything to so foolish and therefore they're awful just simply back down and accept the u.s. had germany and realize that there's no way in the world that they can ever rival the united states and i think this is very danger there is some kind of calculation like this going on in the among policymakers in merry way in on that because you know you know i get maybe i'm just way too close to it because i. lived here and lived here for a long time. and i you know i go and see the victory parade. commemorating the

end of the second world war it's very moving it's very real and it touches everyone in this country and my sense is that in reflecting on what george had to say. if the americans press hard enough the russians will defend itself by all means available that's not a bluff and and no president i don't care who it is of russia would stand for that whatsoever this is you know it's really you know we've talked about this involved i think was two years ago is that there are so few real russia watchers left because when the cold war came to an end they defended it then you became i can eat you specialise in arms control specialist but me you know not no hard core russian one and i see people in western media talking about russian they have no idea really what they're talking about that it's all. exaggerations or character churches and i

these are the people that are influencing policy this is scares me because the russians don't bluff when it comes to existence go ahead mary. no i agree with you that russia doesn't bluff and i also agree with the other two contributors that. there is a sense in which the situation today is more dangerous on the ground in conflict areas such as syria such as ukraine because of the absence of the sort of rules that existed during the cold war. but i think in two respects things are slightly different one of them is that the scale is so different and the feel in the two in the two capitals is so different even in washington you have this incredible frenzy against russia but it's against russian interference in all sorts of things in a sort of cyber dimension in a propaganda dimension it's not really about assault or really disappoint really

and i think there's something else that i'd like to add to this which is that yes congress and the cold war republicans in particular have contained donald trump they've limited his room for maneuver in the most effective way they've been able to do that but i still think that if you look at the responses from donald trump in person and bloody mayor putin in person when they talk about each other they still retain i think at the back of their mind the hope that one day it will actually be possible to have proper talks and to have an improvement in relations and you can see that all the invective on both sides at least until now has been delegated to if you look on the russian side it's been to quite warlike members of the duma. and people are are the ones who make the

warlike comments against the united states and there's something similar happening from try. team as well so that at the moment i would say that trump important have held themselves quite effectively above the fray and also communicating which with each other quite regularly by phone now obviously there are a lot of people who don't like this and the publicist before it is. is not huge but i think that still there's just this slight that could be an improvement ok danny let me go to your give you the last word here with these new weapons and weapons coming from the united states and russia the time for a leader it used to be you know up to five five to fifteen minutes to make a decision now it's getting down to a minute or so and so if the americans are so terrified of you know leaving the

light on it night and looking under their bed for russian spies it doesn't give me hope at least in this environment that we're any safer go ahead. it is astonishingly dangerous and as your previous speaker pointed out americans seem ready for war look lindsey graham the senator from south carolina said just a couple of days ago a war with no north korea attacking north korea not a big it probably be worth it the worth of reminds us of madeleine albright when she talked about five hundred thousand dead iraqi children he believes a million dead north koreans and south koreans would be worth it this is the mentality of people ok i'm going washington not very good fight along on where a depressing note to get ideas have the impression that the inmates have taken over the asylum many thanks to my guess the new york london and lake jackson and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. the next time and remember crosstalk.

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welcome to this latest life thirty minute news update from you first british police say they're treating an incident involving a former russian spy and his daughter is attempted murder the country's top counterterrorism officer says the pair were deliberately targeted with a nerve agent and they both remain critically ill with the latest from london police. we've just heard from the assistant commissioner for the metropolitan police mark riley and what was quite unusual was that he was with the country's chief medical officer as well dame sally davis giving you a bit of an indication how seriously they're taking this he said this is a major incident and they have determined that it's attempted murder by administration of a new agent who was. in a position to be. far as a result of exposure. will not be providing credit for most. of the executives of this has been identified he said that public safety remains

a priority and for any concerned locals in the area of souls bre where this all took place he says that at the moment there's no evidence of any why spread health risk a new development that we got through what he said was that a police officer one of the first responders at the scene when. his daughter was found unconscious on this park bench that police officer is now also in a serious condition in hospital earlier on the home secretary rod she chaired a cobra meeting which is a highly unusual step in itself that normally only happens in response to the national crises like terrorist attacks or things like major floods and she everyone in this situation to keep a cool head take a listen to what she had to say we need to keep her cool and make sure that we collect all the evidence we can and we need to make sure that we respond not to

rumor but to all the evidence that they collect and then we need to decide what action to take you could have thought she may have been speaking to the country's newspaper editors because they certainly had a field day with the speculation on this story before we had any facts to talk tabloids and talking about furious boris tough getting. with mad. as one about a headline on one newspaper talking about putin swearing revenge on this former double agent so the investigation is clearly a foregone conclusion for many in the british media a number of tabloids were speculating about the fate of the world cup and a potential boycott all that was sort of hypothetically floated by the foreign secretary when answering urgent questions about this in the house of commons coming back to the police investigation and the facts in this story well they've said that this is now in the hands of london's anti terror police said the investigation has

been stepped up to the top level it could be at say that they have hundreds of detectives working on this now around the clock trying to establish how sergey square powell and his daughter came to be poisoned by what we now know was a nerve agent so to remind you briefly who is he used to serve in the russian military intelligence service than a tourist in two thousand and six seems he passed the identities of russian secret agents working in europe to the u.k. he was then subsequently caught and sentence for that thirteen years in prison that another turn in twenty ten he was released as part of a high profile spy swap with the us and flown to britain. as polly mentioned the script continues to dominate the news in britain and the little is currently known about what actually happened to reporters or wasted no time in the lesson speculating that it was an attempted murder orchestrated by the kremlin a claim moscow strongly denies that's got a view from the u.k. john white liberal commentator and journalist john morning to you

a former police officer we spoke to earlier on said the media speculation is creating a thought learn healthy environment for the investigation do you think media outlets should be more concerned about their. we should because their rhetoric on this matter before the very. the geisha even began before it was even determined what were responsible the substance that was used in this attack if indeed it had been an attack has been reckless and irresponsible and could only have hampered the investigation though i'd like to think that the british authorities have enough professionalism to resist being and any we flew into by this rhetoric but when it comes to britain's foreign secretary borders johnson we're talking on an entirely different level of stupidity and when he stood up in the house of commons a few days ago when this incident first came to wait and opportunity to engage in some anti russian hyperbole he did not do so or speaking as britain's foreign

secretary i suggest but as the foreign secretary of the times newspaper the daily mail the daily express in short the u.k.'s stablish in media that has been engaging in this anti russian hysteria and for whom it is no become a religion yet but of course since he spoke before yesterday now as it is here now the case has ramped up now the police are talking about an attempted murder case and of course crucially this a nerve agent was used that takes it up so many more levels is in there and change the story. it is a very grievous serious crane and this is why i'm in full agreement with britain's home secretary when she says that we need to keep a cool head and let the authorities conduct an investigation with enough time and space to do so professionally and thoroughly everyone's pointing the finger at the russian government of course what we do know is that the russian government has the

capability to carry a pack of this nature that has the capacity the question is does it possess the requisite stupidity because and i think of this nature that any tame especially this time on the part of the russian government would constitute a monumental act of political. zero harm resulting in severe and significant reputational damage across the world or the russian foreign ministry spokesperson iran said that in previous instance involving russians or the u.k. for example the very famous one of boris berezovsky the full details would never disclose in the end but of course the rumble the room is still continued to express the same thing that happened this time will we ever know exactly what happened. well it's hard to see of course i do believe you treat the provenance of this nerve gas i.e. where it was developed where it was made that would help to shed some light on the nature of the case we need to know more details about mr script files activities in

the u.k. it seems incredulous given that he was granted a state pardon by russia in two thousand and ten and he was part of the famous spice warp of the scene year and they lived in the u.k. under openly and not under conceal data entity for eight years and to my knowledge he was not engaged in any activities that could constitute a threat to russia or its national interests or that doesn't seem to be any water of on government level but again assist speculation at this stage we need to see where the investigation leads and into course more details hopefully will come to light as long as i worked in russia for last ten years or more no twelve years ago but almost when i start of the death of alexander litvinenko in two thousand and six color ruptured relations were between the u.k. and russia though there was no proof of course that russia was ever involved to spread a similar kind of diplomatic rift this time that will go on on and. well certainly

because relations between the u.k. and russia have never been worse relations between russia and the west and its entirety of never been washed and this can only play into this investigation into how this issue is dealt with on the level of politics in regards to mr litvinenko case if you recall in two thousand and sixteen the high court judge to rubber or and. judge the bloody probably approved of his assassination i would suggest you use the word problem probably has no place in any legal system worthy of the name we have to be careful that the evidence does not lead into the marquee world of politics and it's not influenced as i say by this anti russian history that has been cultivated by the u.k. mainstream media of late will follow this goes of the next few days john my political journalist thanks for much for a come on the program tonight. france has laid out a new plan for tackling the spread of islamic extremism in schools prisons and on

the internet the mcconnell ministrations says it will be more effective in past anti terror initiatives as it focuses on prevention and seeks to try to stop the problem at source now as part of the drive therefore counseling it seems now will be given to the children of islamic state fighters who've returned to france following the collapse of the terror group self-proclaimed caliphate it shiela did bensky reports from paris this morning on the threat posed by radicalized youngsters. they're just children born innocent into a world of brutality that while most children are playing with dolls and cars these are being taught to play with guns and knives and some have even been trained to kill. cops of the caliphate. would be actually true.