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the m.p.'s have been immediately is free of dissent blaming russia and also insisting that the british government to take a really strong conductor you know carry a strong response but we don't know at chile what has happened that is long and shows fifty minutes now may have said that this is a moment. and nerve agent of terror that has been produced in russia. we really don't know and the one thing i would really like just stress is this in the u.k. we have a real recent history of extraordinary really a collective intelligence of the government reactions we've seen that in iraq with the children we've seen that also in libya and it's a great house of commons rickshaw to actually looking back over libya in the intelligence and the way in which the government really sort of social intervention
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based on essentially action very very little would still intelligence so one of the things i would say is teams that careful showing really an exception if we have a recent history of these quite. once worrying terror. but he had a dozen. parliamentarians much of the media seemed to have forgotten that very quickly and rather than being cautious and say ok let's investigate let's find out what's happened and let this with russia and so there is a real draw i blame russia immediately and to call for a strong response from the government it was pretty clear there were lot of high emotions in the in the commons there a lot of calls for action among them. a call for sanctions or the there were a couple of calls for r.t.d. to stop broadcasting what was called its propaganda in the u.k. i didn't see the connection between the poison attack and and artie's broadcasting
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or any evidence of propaganda but that was mentioned also the question was put is russia fit to host the fee for world cup so i'm rather rambling to subjects that realistically what can the commons do the house of commons well. in the end this will be decision for the british executive and i suspect as it's fair as it would be out it would be a real shock you know if wednesday three of them a stood up and said no we actually don't have enough proof to claim to discuss go so we're going to go back and spend more time investigating which of kind of dots not going to happen we can know with a cigarette in an extremely kind of situation. so i suspect what will happen will be sanctions and maybe a diplomatic expulsion he has i imagine crime was do you think we'll ever see the proof i mean at this reminds me of the meddling in the us elections claims where
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the proof isn't forthcoming because it said it's too sensitive will the proof be put forward so the public know that the government of made the right decision and the made the right call and the sanctions or whatever punishment is justified well i don't really think so because it's highly unlikely that this investigation has been conducted i would have thought in its finest fairly dry sensible rational manner i mean it seems extraordinary that within such a short space of time we could be making such kind of concrete claims so to me that's actually all a bigger worry in fact you know states such as russia and britain do conduct all sorts of undercover and unpleasant operation. but what i but i think a bigger worry for us in the u.k. i would say is that both our politicians and our media very happy to.
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push for action and retaliation. and measured kind of investigation discussion and response and i think ultimately that's the bigger problem for the u.k. in the long run so are a group of times thanks for coming on art international my guest this hour tara mccormack lecturer in international politics thank you thank. go to move on to other news now because the u.n. security council which was supposed to be focusing on relief efforts for war ravaged goods in syria has descended instead into threats the u.s. envoy war but washington is ready to strike the syrian government we also warn any nation that is determined to impose its will through chemical attacks and any human suffering most especially the outlaw syrian regime the united states remains prepared to act if we must it is not the path we prefer but it is
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a path we have demonstrated we will take and we are prepared to take it again. because from a killer morgan joins me live from new york he was covering events. misunderstood that sounded like a clear threat from the u.s. ambassador. indeed in her remarks u.s. ambassador nikki haley essentially used the language often used to justify u.s. military intervention saying that the usa essentially reserves the right to attack the syrian government now the meeting was convened to discuss the situation in eastern guta this is a rebel held on play where there is fighting taking place between terrorists and extremists that are trying to overthrow the syrian government and the syrian government itself now when nikki haley got up to speak rather than simply touching on the situation and the plight of civilians and efforts to make sure that civilians are not hurt she actually chose to make a barrage of allegations against russia iran and syria and in her remarks she went
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as far as saying that the three countries were actually responsible for some chlorine attacks now that we heard a response from the russian ambassador who said this is simply a decision for mation campaign this is what we heard from nikki haley and the response from the russian representative and in the past sixteen days there have been three separate allegations of chlorine gas attacks this is no ceasefire this is the assad regime iran and russia continuing to wage war against their political opponents for a constant when you want to build up look we understand that the goal of this decision from asian campaign is to manipulate public opinion and convince people the syrian government is using chemical weapons or we have reasonable concerns that their own preparations to stage fake chemical attacks in order to later excuse the outside government and according to our data on the fifth of march terrorists used
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chlorine and injuring thirty two people whose. now nikki haley in her remarks said that the united states is putting forward a new draft resolution regarding the situation in eastern guta that wouldn't have what she calls terrorism loopholes now the current resolution allows for the syrian government to continue fighting against al nusra and other extremist groups that have been operating in eastern guta now the new resolution put forward by the united states according to what we heard from nikki haley would prevent that from taking place they would not be able to continue doing so now that would essentially leave the terrorists and extremists operating in eastern guta in tact and in power and allow them to continue staging public executions using civilians as human shields and doing other activities that the entire international community has condemned now again this meeting was supposed to be about how to take efforts to protect civilians in eastern guta however nikki haley used the meeting as
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a place to make accusations and essentially demonize and attack the russian government now this is not the first time that she's done this at the u.n. security council let's take a look at what nikki haley has said in the past. oh my promise to count how many times the u.s. envoy would mention russia during his state but i counted is twenty two russian russia russia russia russia trusted russian russians russia can russia russian russian russians and russian russians the russian the russian russian russian and the russians russia who just don't do political purposes only and not house of caravans with. now the purpose of the u.n. security council the fifteen member body that leaves the united nations is supposed to be to carry out the mission of the united nations but as we have seen it has
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recently become a forum for certain countries to criticize other countries now everyone in the u.n. security council seems to be in full agreement that the lives of civilians in eastern guta should be protected however there are some pretty strong disagreements about how that should be carried out and how and who is responsible for the situation there and we've heard some rather extreme rhetoric in the fifteen member body that leaves the united nations thanks killam open of course but in bring is right up to date live from new york. ok with me now is. where we go you've got to put on a big screen for this interview middle east expert and director of the think tank good to speak to. what do you make of the u.s. envoy speech at the u.n. security council i think unexpected nobody thought that she was going to be delivering threats. well we think that this is because the united states is trying to change the nature of its engagement in syria towards becoming more offensive i
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think everybody and we've heard a lot of calls in the west most recently the british foreign minister saying there is no hope that we can give to the people of east in order that the west is going to come and do some military engagement in order to you know change the position to a more favorable towards for them. so in a sense they're telling the people of eastern hotel we're not going to come and save you so we think this sort of threat is. we'll you know it be i would say limited but actually connected to other areas in syria that are respected to face the same. military operation perhaps north and homs and southern how mother sort of inclusive. or even northeastern circe of the united states what they're saying is that we we are willing to use force if the syrian military go
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beyond whatever line we've drawn and we're not going to tell it to anyone but definitely not for although it's quite incredible some people would interpret that as the u.s. is siding with the terrorists against the syrian government is quite a remarkable situation to consider there is it a serious threat. we think it's a circle it is a serious threat in the sense that the united snuffing that the united states have done in syria so far bringing all its military and airplanes is legal sort of there is nothing really preventing them from doing another thing that is illegal what the united states should be concerned about perhaps is the civilians there are three hundred or four hundred thousand people in eastern buttah that need to get rid of these militants they need to go back to their normal lives there are about six or seven million people in the massacres and the need to go back to who need to go back to their normal lives and everybody is expecting this operation to end up just
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like what happened in eastern libya with the militants going elsewhere and people and you know ninety percent of the population over there which is what happened in eastern aleppo going back to normal life kids to school and people to hospitals and work and everything so the united states need to be more concerned with the lives of these people i don't think anyone. can realistically say that everybody in eastern border is an anti syrian government surely someone must say well at least there is some proportion of people have used them all who want rid of those militants especially the islamic ones especially the extreme ones like jordan also and what have you but the united states isn't at all interested in that they're interested in forcing the syrian government you hand in order to effect a political change in the united states would like you know using whatever means they have and we think that you know the situation in north east in syria in specific whereby local groups local kurdish groups are becoming more and more
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empowered by the united states in order to have across a state of some sort in northeastern syria and the united states my degree or heels over there i don't think anybody doubts that have been deaths in eastern gator and that included civilian deaths the u.s. is proposing to ban all anti terrorist opera. my question to you would be public will be saying this is great will stop innocent deaths but it leaves the civilians in the hands of the terrorists russia says are carrying out their own atrocities upon the people there will the people based in good to be any better off left in the hands of terrorists who are no longer under assault well the figures we have from the dissimilar operation we had about eighteen months ago in eastern electoral was that there was about according to u.n. figures there was about three hundred people three unfasten people story besieged in in eastern aleppo and when the the buses they ferried to the militants and their
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families out of eastern there were about thirty thousand people who chose to leave eastern europe and that tells you that there are nine out of ten people in east l.a. put chose to stay you can easily argue that those people nine out of ten were hostages and you could easily you could also argue that there is a similar proportion in eastern huta and not only that we're talking now about three thousand three hundred thousand or so civilians in eastern huta duma alone as a city in eastern hutto the main city in eastern had one million inhabitants before the crisis now a lot of people one could argue migrated from or deserted eastern or managed to desert actually because for the past five years no one was allowed to leave the militants area but those who managed to get out of houston although would also like to go back to their houses so you know not only nine out of ten in eastern good i
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would be happy to see the back of the militants but perhaps as much as million to one million and a half people outside would like to see them off so that they can go back and check their houses and see whether everything is fine or whether there is anything left at all. your time my guest amara walker for middle east expert director of the grossest think tank thank you. thank you very much all rebel held area of eastern good has been besieged as we've been saying by government forces this is been hitting three thousand and thirteen but the fighting there has recently escalated in the last few days the syrian government regained large chunks of that target it pretty much isolating the militants into just three pockets you can see on our map here local suffering on the militant rule in these areas have shared their stories and it is it is done and has more on the deal that allowed dozens of civilians to leave the fighting in that area. militants in control of the area have let them out almost two weeks after russia and syria opened humanitarian corridors not an act of
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good world on behalf of the rebel factions but part of a deal russia and syria led some anti government fighters safely flee with their families and in exchange fighters in ghouta of would allow fifty civilians to leave the war zone as well that we've been suffering horribly for seven years we all stayed neutral in misrata we couldn't lean can do anything they didn't let us leave controlled pressure on us that mr mansour she'd we haven't seen any of them to us we haven't seen any money nothing they took everything from us. militants treated civilians in is good as a bargaining chip making sure that if anyone flees they do it on the fighters terms the gloves were off from the start the russian defense ministry has reported that the pirates to safety were shelled almost religiously precisely to prevent anyone
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from fleeing to damascus trying to scape the hell fire between the government forces and militant groups whose fighters far too often side with terrorists ok some big stories coming out of the u.k. house of commons on the u.n. this evening join is in half an hour for more analysis. i lie. lie lie lie. lie lie lie lie lie. lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie. lie.
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the art of the deal is being put to the test can trump the former reality television host broker a deal with the north koreans will the deep state allow him also is the world into a new trade. north stream to gas pipeline from russia to germany in jeopardy opposition from europe and the united states can a project survive its core as well as the energy speaker of the christian democratic union party in the german been a stack fight for. a new russian pipeline to bring natural gas directly to germany bypassing transit routes. and states being cut out as well as
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making washington d.c. to europe into upsy for american gas instead. make europe even more dependent on russian natural gas cheaper energy for all. the political pressure from all sides will be tough and indifference. for the energy speaker of the christian democratic union party in a german bundesliga welcome to the show great to have you with us lots to discuss germany has given the green light to the north stream to pipeline which will bring the natural gas for russia to germany directly via the baltic sea polland and the baltic states and other e.u. members opposed to projects but opposition to the project comes from countries who currently do transit business with gas from and stand to lose if the pipeline is built does it actually about trying to reduce dependence or really about lost revenues. first of all i think it's good
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to have approached north stream too because it brings diversification diversification and the transport off natural gas and diversity more routes and more diversification means more liquidity in the european market and that increases the security off supply not only for cho many. increases the security of supply all over europe and so basically i think it's a good idea to have to set this new pipeline sharp but why do you think countries in european union oppose it because they're losing revenues or because they want to reduce dependence what is the core cause of the opposition i think i think it's a mixture of course may be a great day fia that they knew was transit capacity or trans.
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transport. fees but. i personally think that it will crane will. be indicated in the future as well but they also have to have west and infrastructure because the infrastructure is quite old and there are billions of investments needed and there is opposition from poland as well poland fears to be even more. dependent so russian gas but if if they think if we have a diversification and if we have more routes. a pipeline to which we have an option one definition we have a model we have to grind it drowns it we have several. capacities and popular mediterranean sea and then we have a lot of elenchi terminals and at the moment they are. not fully
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used capacity is only used by fifteen to twenty percent and so i think this brings competition to the gas market and we also have storage capacity all over europe and competition normally bring slower prices and so what the consumer and also always industry can benefit for it and therefore i think we have to convince a lot of european palms that it's a good idea gas a plaster here of have been disrupted several times in the past years because of kiev moscow disputes over ukrainian gas import debt so isn't moscow's goal to avoid the unreliable transit partner legitimate enough and isn't north stream two going to bring a more reliable gas supply to europe. most free to is the shortest
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way to bring to gus to central europe and the european union we still working on to having a. single market on energy and on us gas as well and so we implemented for example reverse flow with so that we can also supply. the countries and europe or in eastern europe so hopefully. we will have an additional increasing off to security of supply so of course when it comes to gas and oil and energy in general it. oftentimes becomes a political thing for instance the polish prime minister says nordstrom too as a political project aimed at undermining central europe there's a ukrainian member of parliament his comparing the annus to today molecule ribbentrop pact in the thirty nine how are statements like that affecting the project's perception in your country in germany. we say and we think it's not to
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put it to go pro checked it's private approach it's privately motivated it's privately financed there is no public finance if you look maybe to what the post polish government now at the moment tries to add to this that pollution. elenchi terminal they have lent you to i mean one day old so on to build a new pipe and that this system may be or will be supported for example by the european union and i welcome this brooch act as well because also it diversifies their roots and to diversify. the markets and so we can bring more competition and more security of supply now the european commission wants to take over and not stray into negotiations from germany and bog them down in the opera sea and red tape all the germans insist it's their rights to
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handle talks on their own well berlin confront brussels over this we are negotiating at the moment and. it mentioned before we want to have a single european and achieve market also and gas as well but we also have a national. end of she makes so far for example to terminate we decided to face out nuclear others decide to face it nuclear or to stay with nuclear and if the european commission would take over responsibility or they would give to final approval for. pipelines or for oil and cipro checks or also for storage maybe facilities that it would take directly this nationals over and it t. on the energy mix and so i think. that's not a good idea to have it for if this perspective of the economist magazine quotes
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a european commission official as saying that if it was dinner wage and stadol oil that would be no problem so this has nothing to do with gas this is a european commission's personal grudge against gas from the right. i'm not sure about this if this is. against gospel but the. european commission and a lot of. member states and also from critiques from the parliament from other european parliament they are afraid to be more dependent to russian gas and so that. because the resources we have into europe in you wouldn't in all three are shrinking norwegian or in the north north sea or in great britain also in the netherlands and so there it there is the fear that the dependency but if you have
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a pipeline this pipeline you can move it if you like ship or an oil tanker at the he can go from qatar to japan as well as to western europe for example and a pipeline east area so i see a pipeline. brings up both way dependence we need the gas russia needs the money from the gas to and. for the. for the federal budget and the two. to do out of i don't think so. i'm not afraid that that will increase i'll attempt and dependency so like you're saying to europe's gas demand is expected to rise within the next decade with british and dutch production falling in norway freezing some of its oil and gas projects brussels wants to pull the plug on gas from in europe but does it have a backup plan for the day here or faces a gas shortage. that there are
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a lot of scenarios and i'm a lot off perspective if the gas. demand will increase or. stay. the same nobody knows exactly what we are doing heavenly. we're working heavily on the renewable sector for example but i think gas will play a key role even in the renewable in the future if you look to electricity we need backup capacity and this has to come out from conventional and i think also from a two point from a de colonizing point of few it's better to have gas and makes in the long run then for example hot coal oil. coal so i think gas is. intelligent patna for the renewables and we can also use this pipeline system for
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transporting hydrogen for example or. things so this infrastructure is not only limited to the fossil h. and therefore i think a pipeline system combined for storage capacities and then she terminals all over europe is a quick thing and i would win situation for all participants here paying commission wants to amend the e.u. gas directive and the proposed changes will actually harm nordstrom to germany saying that they possible amendments aren't applicable under here opinion or international law so why would russell's come forward with proposals that are known to be bad. yeah that's a good moment to be negotiated and there. at the moment they are talks and at the moment there are. some lawyers on. working on that and finally we have to find a solution and i hope that.

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