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and that's why we do see that's why we do see people in wales often trying actually to get treatment in england rather than in rather than in wales people are dying said corbin people are dying because of overcrowding and long waits in our hospitals i think the prime minister should get a grip on it and ensure the n.h.s. now has the money that it needs to deal with the patient demands and then corbin referenced everyone's favorite scientist stephen hawking who died this week we started with professor stephen hawking and he said just a few months ago there is. there is overwhelming evidence that any chance funding and the number of doctors and nurses are in adequate and it's getting worse does she agree with professor hawking there was no answer from to resume about one of britain's best known scientists she had science on the mind though or revenge based on science one assumes britain would within hours veto the un resolution to
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investigate the atrocity in the south west of england well to take a better look at the russian threats narrative and how it may now affect the future of a post directed britain i went to the green outside the palace of westminster to talk to a member of britain's house of lords international relations committee lord delf well to take a better look at the russian threat narrative and how it will affect the future of a post directed britain i'm now joined by lord valve member of the international relations committee at the house of lords and former member of the european parliament. thanks for being here on the green parliament twenty three russian diplomats being chucked out of the country in the next few days your reaction to tourism is statement. i can't see what. i mean what it will achieve used presumably twenty three british diplomats will be thrown out of russia some say more than maybe. but so the. choice everyone is saying in the house behind us big. does she has the evidence that the kremlin ordered an atrocity
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in england. when that c.b.s. i mean what i have no to seize these apparently the russian authorities of oste need with the investigation to be given some samples of the nerve agent and that's been refused there that doesn't seem to me like trying to solve the problem because their industry is very clear that there was security considerations as to why she cannot reveal certain bugs the information just as in the public inquiry regarding the atrocity in mayfair in central london against p.m.a. six by the. but how on earth that we got so selves into this position. that that's the first question we should be also we have the evil putin regime is how we got it close as in we have some more who was exchanged came to live in britain he's living openly under he's not even a house and so we he's apparently meeting british secret service agencies the first
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thing i say he's had they not yet he briefed you know what he's going on there's all sorts of things that just don't add up but there has to be a consensus in the us a logs in the corridors of power there the about this that the security service is a telling the prime minister that. clearly something has to be done against the largest country on earth. something probably does have to be dark but he only has to be done because reports on cells into the situation and what we now are proposing to do is to reduce the opportunities for the two countries to work together and we seem to be forgetting that britain has a lot of business interests in russia. what would the reaction be here if there presumably would be some russian retaliation if they said well we'll have some sanctions against british business where do we end up with this we. don't gamed up
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in a good place and also we don't yet know what the full facts of this case law apart from the fact that anyone who tried to poison is obviously don't pretty competent because they failed obviously some ascribe the popularity of living here putin in russia to being someone who dragged in public to crack down on the oligarchs who stole all the money from the russian people and you do presume he backed the measures being taken to freeze assets i'm not sure they're freezing the assets in london and then giving it to the russian people do welcome those policies i think clearly the. seniors in particular would rate for russia and a lot of money went out of the country that belongs to the russian people and warm canary needs supports the government its attempts to turn that around i would be more impressed sorry if that had been laid to the british and russian governments cooperating about money of which so huge amount in london. concerned standing
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there isn't going to be any go operation whether it be have magnitsky act or whatever in terms of repat treating money that's been stolen from russia. to magnitsky act is actually cooperation that's not how many people would define certainly. but you know it just strikes me that we're getting ourselves into more more of a difficult corner and that we really have to have some dialogue and i know that i'm popular particularly in the parliament but in the end you have to talk. to one of the lessons of international diplomacy in the end this problem will have to be unscrambled in the end we will have to talk and that is for the good of both countries so you're not a popular law if you do support terrorism am there cancelling the visit. of the
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russian foreign minister sergei lavrov to britain. counts he was equally key but willing to give me a lot of reviews are highly experienced polished diplomat and actually a pretty good foreign minister i mean well it's written showing that he's not welcome here but ok so what we say you're not welcome to talk if frankly far is the prime minister i'd be saying i hope he will soon come because we need some very frank dialogue about what he's going wrong in the relations between our two countries. and clearly if there was a poison attempt something has gone badly wrong and the russian state is one of the british state need to get to the bottom of what's happened aside from the geopolitical context and the atrocity and saw israel because the you're on the house of lords international relations committee and you mentioned business how will worse relations with russia affect breaks in britain it's difficult sorry to
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be quite honest we can only speculate at the moment but it's hardly going to make the russian government feel more co-operative towards helping british business experiment in russia and presumably the brits are going to do the same to the russians so it's not going to help. this great open trade agreement that we're searching for. and what why do you think those considerations are not to the fore. because some would say that there is a separation here given that russia trades obviously a great deal with the european union and with so much of europe's energy coming from russia we seem to have got also into great big standoff position and it doesn't make sense i mean you know to see it i mean germany and gazprom are cooperating quite well in energy supply to europe and i was tend to think that if you talked. people are going to get further than
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a few. natures or more predictably immediately said they support resume the white house what do you make of their reaction more temporary they too busy sacking people where. even before the signing of the secretary of state but he didn't do you think that in washington they realize relations with russia more important than immediate reactions. it so difficult at the moment to call russian american relations you know the state department is in chaos frankly there are a huge number of vacancies there you've had the last year with the secretary of state and the president basically each other's throats and it's difficult to see the united states is being a very credible foreign policy for the moment and there are many in the palace of westminster that we're expecting to resume to attack this station on t.v. surprised or but the fact that she didn't ban this channel in britain and the fact
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or shut it down very sensible of i mean i've never believed in shutting down the press i had a long long time dealing with turkey and now as you say to the turkish authorities let them say what they want to say you know have details in the open because if you drive it underground you were killed it will still be there but i think it's fundamentally wrong to baron a agent of the free press but of course the statutory regulator of call has been clear that it is listening all the time to what is being said at the dispatch box as to whether they should review the license of the channel. is that we'll know a period of free speech that's what they say and i hope they just keep saying i'm not doing global thank you ok thank you very much after the break. rex
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tillerson concern i very much appreciate the president his service i wish him well . the firing of his secretary of state rex tillerson because of the russia and to resume we speak to award winning gold for in rolling stone journalist matt tybee and andrew pierce the daily mail's consulting editor writes off jeremy corbin even though they just opinion polls show you may be the odds on favorite to be britain's prime minister coming up to him going underground. quite normal. the knot winds up. on the fleas off let down one might have snakes on the
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join me every first week on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sport that's less i'm show business i'll see that. welcome back well the stakes could arguably never be higher in what some are already predicting a dent into a nuclear confrontation between britain and russia no wonder some way to argue that labor leader jeremy corwin is seeking to decrease tensions whilst applying stringent sanctions of those who have stolen money from the russian taxpayer but that's not the way some see it from the makers of the most visited english language newspaper website in the world joining me now is andrew pearce consulting editor of
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the daily mail. welcome back what did you make of tourism is jeremy corbin's response to reason may is a very boring speaker she just doesn't very often get the complete command of the house of commons chamber but i thought statement this week was magisterial by her standards she had the commons with her she is a former home secretary so she was able to draw on her experience as being and responsible for security and terror and the leader of the opposition was shameful it was an embarrassment because the leader of the opposition has a job in my view to be supportive in a time of national crisis to sound at least vaguely patry otic instead he was peevish turn ish and in failing to condemn the state of russia for what is perceived to be a russian act he showed himself to be according to some of his own side on the wrong side of the argument and it was made worse by the briefing after the
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statement by his press secretary seamus milner seamus miller's got for he's been to russia at the expense of been literally and he's a great supporter of the state of russia and he elaborated us to why corbin refused to accept that russia is responsible and he peddled out that line used by the russian embassy that britain should actually give over a sample of the nerve agent so the russians can test it oh great idea what are they going to send over back to the russian embassy and get some scientists to test test it and then they'll say. because it's nothing to do with out you know ridiculous idea russians are saying that is under o.p.c. w. treaty that they have to do that danielle days not twenty four hour deadline but let's just get back to the cold war yeah literally a cold war is a cold because in the next twenty four hours of britain already probably feeling it there's a cold snap russia's response could literally be difficult to switch and stop british shows being heated and and lit is that price worth paying the fact is we
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don't have enough gas it is running out and we buy some of our gas from russia it's been a matter of great concern in number ten not just under this government under the previous government and putin could do that i suppose but of course russia needs our money too and they need to sell the gas to us because they need the cash to build bell from the first of this show is saying we need partners in a post rex it world i know the european union has come to help in this time of defacto war with russia presumably both brics that we're not going to have any great trade deals only with russia and its allies maybe even its brics allies in the in the rest of the world we will be it will be announced next week that britain as part of the brics it process can start negotiating trade to us that's a huge change by the european union it's a big win for trees amaze negotiate just once was going to beijing or together well
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we will be doing trade deals with china we'll be doing traitors with the united states i suspect we will be doing a trade deal without me putin anytime soon but then trade with russia isn't huge in any case but the idea was it supposed to grow well with other countries with other countries and will russia no just not russia as well unless of course russia comes to its senses and stops assassinating or trying to assassinate people on british soil loads of people aboard about international politics in this country and don't really care one way or the other of course they care about the tragedy of a british police officer and so forth. is that way to resume could never have said that the england squad can't go to moscow i think it's not inconceivable that that made position may change so so far the prime minister has said no member the royal family will go prince william is president of the football association in this country a job i imagine he loads because we all know he can't stand for much happier on the polo pitch old chap but he won't be going no officials will be going so i'm sure that to me peter will be devastated that the sports minister tracey crowd would be
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terrified by that is camilla are still bulls as well but there is talk of the possible that could be to may not go and it would be it people say you can't involve sport politics hang on the british prime ministers were heavily involved in trying to get the world cup to britain but russia won the bid with the help of mr blatter who of course is suspended from international football for corruption. and it is hugely significant and i suspect there's a possibility even now that we may not go to the world cup because. it's going to be tarnished that would mean those in marine you know the actual manager who are just taking on to do commentary that might be a mistake what do you think about the fact that people like him are told not to appear on this channel and indeed m.p.'s from both sides of the house who are so keen to appear all of them some of them even saying we should be shut down as well i completely disagree with the idea that. we're disintegration network quickly and
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i was in for britain is a haven for free speech we're just a few hundred yards from the mother of all parliaments and if people don't like russia today or they don't like its output don't watch it but do not close it down off come to my understanding have got no problems with the output and it would just be churlish frankly andrew pierce thank you well it's been quite a week for u.k. u.s. relations mainstream us commentators were quick to assume donald trump fire. if secretary of state rex tillerson via a tweet was connected to tillotson support for tourism a in her war with russia hopes for the torrent would soon be dashed as trump's un ambassador nikki haley echoed may's attacks on moscow and then washington reportedly introduced new sanctions even before any u.n. investigation of the chemical weapons atrocity in england joining me now from new jersey in the usa is award winning rolling stone journalist and author of insane
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clown president matt taibbi in math welcome back to the show i'm going to start actually with the fact that the russian federation has warned britain not to threaten a nuclear power how do you characterize relations from between britain and russia regardless of america and russia i'm in. the nuclear doomsday clock because right now at an all time low or at it's i think it's the equivalent or a now is a one nine hundred fifty two levels and hasn't been this low since one thousand fifty two this is an extremely perilous time in the relationships between the west and russia. i think there is a variety of factors that are that are going into the danger zone one of these is the situation going on in one with the poisoning incident but just as serious as the situation in syria when we have. u.s.
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troops and russian you know contract mickie on the other side of the euphrates river. we have a lot of sort of bombastic talk by leaders on all sides about the nuclear capabilities the new states. and the little girl were full of and the. russian sentiment you know particularly in the united states is at a place where i haven't seen it my lifetime and i interact. remember the reagan years during the when he was talking about the evil empire and then after the shooting down of seven so this is. the we're in an unprecedented place right now the british politicians in palm and with a few honorable exceptions some of them are saying we now need to launch a site of cyber attack on russian institutions and all manner of other levels of
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response and that russia is a rogue state so it will not respond to reason and i don't understand i mean i do understand look there are a lot of political. angles to this story. there are things that are going on that have always gone on these two countries have always meddled in each other's the shares there of zero is there have always been. games back and forth between russia and england and russia in the united states you know there was an excellent book written by one of your countrymen the called the great game that details this activity dating back to the late seventy's hundreds early hundreds i lived in russia in one in the ninety's when the united states openly meddled. in boris yeltsin's reelection campaign there was a cover of time magazine after after yeltsin won reelection there were the it's
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a picture of yeltsin and the headline of the yanks to the rescue because we had advisors american advisors to reporting directly to bill clinton. who were aiding yeltsin in that victory and this is just part of the way views with the countries of operated toward each other forever we've always been interested in each other's affairs i think the difference is now that there's a political angle towards demonization of russia that is inspiring so. politicians in the sitting room and in america to make up a public issue out of this in a way that they have they would now be floor that they wouldn't have to have. sated. such a heated situation in the past over what essentially is a domestic political aim to scare people into you know being
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a certainly politically to town allotting america is of course had to register as a foreign agent from this the nazi era act don't trump tweet a lot about mainstream media but he seems unable to ban it using your version of calm the f.c.c. . surprised that in britain the prime minister can say things and immediately the regulator will take steps or or talk about steps in closing down the television station one of the benefits of the american system of media. is we've we've gone quite a long time in our history without really having a strong official national. media regulator we do have the f.c.c. they did play an important role in the formation. of t.v. and radio stations with
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a couple of key laws in the late twenty's and early thirty's there was the communications act of thirty four. there the federal radio commission and actually twenty seven also had some things to say about what radio station should be but for the most part. there is no regulator for print media and the communications regulator is a very very weak one in the united states which for most of us in the press we've long considered to be a good thing that the government mostly stays out of our business. you know for it to take the step of forcing our to register as a foreign agent under star opens the door for an incredible. amount of abuse that could be directed at almost any kind of foreign news agency in the future and i think that's in an age mistake. and i'm not thrilled with the
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decision to to retaliate against r.t.e. and britain either i think this is similar to a decision that they made with the olympics american a.t.u. if you have a political issue with a country you don't go out after sports you don't go after the media you you you take more serious diplomatic measures that thank you and that's it for the show but i should add now that in last saturday's broadcast on the tenth of march mit professor theodore postol claimed that george mamiya called him an isis sympathizer after the brokers mr mom b.-o. contacted us to deny the allegations made he said i've never said anything about personal being and i sympathize a when i challenge personal claims people accuse me of being an isis sympathizer a paedophile being blackmailed by the government and a mossad agent well professor postol has since contacted us he said george monbiot is corrected by quote summarizing one of his pa statements was not exactly correct the exact quote i had in mind is personal is without question guilty of white
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washing mass murder in syria mr mungo told us that he stands by these claims in a week that marks the eighth year of hostilities and a with the president bashar al assad now controlling most of the country that if the show went back home when he was alleged. british forgotten old edmonds alleging corruption of the british banking system till then he would have tried social media will see on monday fifteen years of the day of the launch of u.k. u.s. operation iraqi liberation or else later changed to operation iraqi freedom which are still would not displace tens of millions. he says. the church secret indeed just like priests accused of sexually abusing children can get away with it quite literally i like to call this the do
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graphic solution so what the bush admin's to do then he finds out that the priest is is a perpetrator is simply moves him to a different spot were the previous standards not the highest ranks of the catholic church conceal the accused priests from the police and justice system did that and it has not as the i and then i included tuesday's out in. itself through. a batch or sudden passing i have only just learned you worry yourself in taking your last abang term. here at us we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry for the kite so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each
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breath. but then my feelings started to change you talked about more like it was again still some more fun to feel those that didn't like to question our arc. basically promised to never be like it's sad one does not need a funeral the same as one enters the mind gets consumed with death this one difference you speak to now because there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met its maker. at the plate for many clubs over the years so i know the game inside out. football isn't only about what happens on the pitch to the final school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the shaper money just billionaire owners and spending two hundred twenty million
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your. brushes defense ministry claims extremist groups in syria are planning to frame chemical attacks to give the us a pretext to strike the assad government. that says rebel control of the syrian area crumbles and die before he eight thousand civilians flees free from monetary encourages. and moscow expels twenty three british diplomats nearing the step taken by the u.k. in response to the kremlin's alleged poisoning a former spy service and his daughter. this is r.t. .
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