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six years ago and what we have to be quite. under and we have to see need to look at relationship is different than diplomatic relationships between different countries it be interesting to have your opinion how you think it's actually at the new coalition as formed in germany and how you think those relationships are going to develop in the future now that we've had ourselves here in russia i think it's open question it's a strong mood and germany to have better relations with russia and inside the party is a difference of opinion we are left wing party the i think we are for lifting the sanctions and having better relations not with all criticism but in general we don't want to have a new cold war. so i don't know what how this election with the effect of the government in germany will go this evening back to germany with our part of the research i would see. but i think.
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we should recognize that. a large majority of russians. voted as they will to. even if there were some cases of fraud. and. i think this will be recognized and or maybe it's a time space for having better relations with russia because maybe some of the last . debate we had were related to the elections and how they are this is going to be a difficult one to navigate germany though isn't it it's taken a long time so you get a coalition government a first place germany doesn't just act alone to the top of the polity you that itself is fracturing because of practice then that's the case of the policing of the spy that is seen e.u. leaders rally behind britain so in that sense geneva people in all directions as. well one thing is what was the office of the correction i criticize the call i. said. we have to have proof that we have to have examinations with the organization
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for chemical weapons not to make the breach of justice for what happened and written. about the other things i think there is strong understanding in germany that we need some kind of cooperation with russia. and the mood is not so. and it will talk to the people it's not for the russian. i think that there's a chance to have better relations and the same sort of work starts now that the election's over. german party m.p. many thanks for joining us simon rex well thanks very much. rob well let's have a look and see if there is any reaction from berlin or in the why do you up with those increased tensions with the west underway let's go live to our europe correspondent peter all about he same burleigh now hi again peter a couple of hours since we last talked to you live for anything from the top tables in the e.u. . yes we have had some reaction from the german government it's been delivered by
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the new foreign minister heiko mass as he arrived in brussels for a meeting you foreign ministers. pacific. the results of the election in russia which was as unsurprising to us as the circumstances of the election russia will remain a difficult but russia will also be needed for solutions to the international conflicts and so we want to remain in dialogue. we've also been seeing more and more reaction in the media here in germany if you have a look at what. to say they said that the the win for vladimir putin not to splendid as it may well have been they go on to say that the majority of media in russia was for the president that the majority of the state operators was for the president and that they would have expected this mr putin would have taken a larger proportion of the vote than it seems that he already has here in the capital the berlin a tongue has said well it's been looking towards the relationship between germany
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and russia and it's not a positive one if you take there they're reading from this they say that the relationship could it well is frosty and could continue to be more and more frosty but if we go back to saturday the main tabloid the most read tabloid newspaper building here in germany they began their congratulations that let me have putin in a bar bit away on saturday before a vote had even been cast and they also said that the skinny pile poisoning the attempted murder of that former spice and his daughter a year earlier that actually got people out onto the streets in russia to vote how he got them out to the polls to vote in fact the whole idea surrounding the whole diplomatic for already surrounded in the case is continuing at the moment in fact we heard some reaction from the british foreign secretary boris johnson as he arrived at the meeting in brussels of the e.u. foreign ministers we listen to that now. russian grew increasingly absurd
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this is a classic russian strategy of trying to conceal the needle of truth in a haystack of lies and of the station. johnson the british foreign secretary now he's in brussels to try and show up more and more support for the british side in this diplomatic spot with russia however he might not get the type of support he would want we heard as well from heiko must the new german foreign minister as he arrived in there he was asked what he thought on the spice situation and the sort of the poisoning incident and he said that it was a bilateral problem between a bilateral issue between britain and russia so there may no may not be the e.u. white support that mr johnson may be expecting going into that meeting. over in the u.s.
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senior politicians are already laying into putin after his victory republican senator john mccain a long time fierce critic of the russian president accused him of trying to artificially inflate the voter turnout meanwhile top democratic congressman adam schiff attacked putin for supposedly eliminating opponents there's also been reaction from n.s.a. whistleblower edward snowden currently living in exile in russia to attention to alleged cases of voter fraud i mean while it's been reported that ninety eight percent of registered voters are broadcast their ballots in this election some outside the consulate in new york past the time by singing the russian classic katyusha. you. join in if you know the words the voters kept up their spirits in the cold quite cheerfully singing along while waiting in line in manner. this was the first presidential election for the only woman in the race for the crime. reality show
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star turned politician was running as part of the liberal opposition platform and presented herself as a candidate against don't know that she got a little more than one point five percent of the vote she hasn't lost heart was at her campaign headquarters when the results began to read. liberal opposition candidate thirty six year old showed up at her own h.q. just minutes after the last polling station in russia closed but really there was nothing to celebrate back then it was already clear that she was going to come forth but with less than two percent well regardless of that. as we've heard many times today likes to portray herself as the new prominent opposition figure and this country and perhaps that explains the heat and the debate she had a little earlier with alexei vali who is one of the most fiercest critics of a lot of our protein in russia but as we remember he hadn't been allowed to take
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part in this election under a law that bans people who were charged criminally from running for president people to. deal with. so if i look on the bar leave some time or yes they do concede that but if. they mean me to spar with zealots in wars and. who does not win you might see a store you could see. in me over the top of the u.s. post lennox when you opposable among. the floor but not for the room. as a small medium like the one you would assume that if you ask any politician any presidential candidate around the world if he or she would be happy with that kind of disappointing result you'd expect the and certainly no vast majority of cases but as saying a subchapter told me in an exclusive live interview she doesn't see it that way
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course it's not the result i would dream about but my campaign was not a result my campaign was about talking truth on their purpose in distinct channels of federal t.v. . in russia this result is higher than of any other liberal candidate and that makes the platform for readmission if we take your result the result of the gore you beats and mr t. top as well and add them together still i think that's just under five percent so is there much room for improvement here and are you hoping to improve in the near future education is the most important value of my program educational russian people of telling them truth about the situation they leave in trying to make them interest on the collection between their level of life and corruption that is there
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in the contrary the only real way to make this five percent growing to fifty one percent is to make people understand this connections after the debates with alex you know why are you confident and that kind of future for a so-called united opposition bloc i'm very disappointed by the discussion because i came there to discuss all future six years with putin and how we will fight with me but in stand we were discussing heavy in my instagram which is ridiculous to my weight what is your maybe adjective or a few adjectives that you can use or some other words to describe this it's a success of freedom of speech and this is our most important success during this campaign was the vote itself i mean we should be realistic about this huge amount of support of putting this result well maybe it would be you know the seventy five percent but sixty eight or whatever the steel we should have made that the majority people now really want this president. wealthy
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businessman turned communist party candidate preval and gruden and came second in this race to the kremlin caleb maupin i was at his headquarters in moscow on sunday and joining us live now it's had a very long. kind of twelve percent where does that leave the communist party that's record low numbers for the communist party that's the worst that they have done since the fall of the soviet union now last night we were at the headquarters and a long time communist party chief zyuganov he was there and he addressed the press along with the candidate. and it was an interesting exchange now one reporter actually asked the question and said you know we'll good dean and continue to represent the communist party in these elections let's remember when zyuganov ran last time he got seventeen percent this time they didn't even pull twelve percent so when that question was raised it got a little interesting in the room this is what happened. we're going to which is.
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what's interesting about your book is that if you're going to give me. a bit of the killers if we're. going to. get the users. which is good news. now good demon he's not actually a member of the communist party he's just the candidate who they chose to represent them in the election and he's quite wealthy and he's the director of the lenin cooperative are this this farming cooperative that essentially provides quite a few services to its workers they grow strawberries and such their workers go to very good schools or their children go to very good schools they get good quality health care that's been provided and on the campaign trail he made an interesting wager with the reporter who interviewed him now he said that if he didn't get a full fifteen percent but he would actually shave off his iconic mustache that
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mustache is part of his image it's a very iconic and he said he would shave it off now the reporter who made that promise to has already put up on instagram a picture of a razor saying it's time to pay the piper it's time to shave that mustache off so we have actually a photo shopped an image of what grew demian would look like. without that iconic mustache let's take a look at that how we got it there on the screen for you but it has not yet come into fruition we haven't seen a half as of yet he's taken the dive and gone ahead and shaved as he promised to do on the campaign trail but not a good showing for the communist party at an interesting and interesting result not the best for them they've done far better in every election since the fall of the soviet union and it's going to show you can i put me in you know if you know any phone over there keeping it on instagram yes we'll be talking about with that any any any new developments in the mustache department and i will i will keep you up to date but it you know it was an interesting campaign in addition to you know pulling from the legacy of the soviet union and marx and lenin they emphasized what you might call scandinavian social democracy and the need for more of
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a welfare state so it was kind of a new turn for the communist party in the election so we'll be keeping an eye on that mustache and see what happens next but not a good not a good result for them they were pretty far ahead of all the other parties a pretty strong second though not as strong as they would have won it for me a bit like the kind of thanks very much for that. i was going to turn out to be standing almost sixty eight percent it's a little more than who turned out for the election in twenty twelve that you might expect people from all walks of life and those that. are. looking for.
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a little bit. well that's it from us for this hour then thanks very much for your company for all future lection coverage which continues for the rest of the monday plenty more reaction not only from the parties and voters in this neck of the woods but also all around the world but for now from me on the do it today thanks for watching.
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seem wrong. just don't hold. me close to shape out these days comes to educate and in. equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. kiev merican minutes one is the melting pot and the second is the ratio alger myth of the bootstrapping of anyone can succeed in america who works hard so this is a whole group of people all generation in america is saying that there is no melting pot we're not being assimilated there's no opportunities we can't live up
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so their response essentially is to go into conflict and this is a major. global war zone you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the chicken hawks forcing you to fight the battle for food still. produce offspring to tell you that will be gossip and coupled with the support. of the mosque that has tell me you are not cool enough to buy their product. all the
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hawks that we along the border will want. that was. was.
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the welcome to sophia shevardnadze he won oscars called in globe space films are cult classics part of american consciousness now all over stone's latest project was to film an extensive series of interviews with russia's vladimir putin. i caught up with the director himself to talk about the experience my over sounds great to have you with us today if you're having a great trip in moscow has just got here so your book companion to your extensive interest with is published by you called the good an interview for day to day she is climax to my strange life as an american filmmaker climax your career oh this is the best thing you've ever done. you know i have to take the point of view that it could be the last film too you never know time is seems more precious when you get a little bit older and as a filmmaker it's
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a very young profession you know and very few and america especially it kind of goes fast you don't get often another chance so i felt like this was a kind of a climax not that it's a feature film but that it's the most safe at this time in history the most forbidding character to american media to american and western europe you know i think forbidding kind of. cross into that into another world i'm glad i got here i mean i did mr castro and i did mr chavez i did mr arafat's and also as a young who was a character when he was out of office back when he was out of office he's now in power forever it seems but these characters all led me to this moment with mr putin . and i frankly i enjoyed the meeting him i met him originally on the at
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the one of my trips to russia because i was interviewing snowden a lot we were doing research with ed and a lot of the movies soden was represents what ed this point of view was so getting that information took time and we came back and we're trying to be accurate the last scene of the movie was shot in moscow so after a by one i met mr putin which is in the back room of a theater in moscow a play an old like hundred sixty s. play he was attending to promote folkloric culture. we met the back and i asked him about mr snowden and he gave me the russian version his version of what happened which was fascinating different than what we had been told in the public. newspapers and so forth but anyway long telling the story quickly is getting back to the end of the movie if snowden we shot in moscow to a weekend with with ed and then we turned around
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a few days later we went to the kremlin and we shot mr putin over three days and. at that time we didn't know if this would go on who was simply you know take it as it comes like you're doing and play it by ear it was spontaneous i gave melissa quick questions i was areas that i was going to cover but it wasn't limited he didn't say i was totally spontaneous i didn't have any limitation on the way to us and as you can see every day i look different he was always the same he looked very together i was sometimes. well here was blowing in the wind. i guess i changed appearances several jobs but. in other words i'm the opposite of an american anchor i don't look like megan kelly i don't look like you even. sam that's a compliment. i know what kind of great effort it takes to get that kind of access but. that's not easy i mean a lot of russian journalism top journalists don't get that kind of access right and
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i know how much effort it took you to make this happen and make it come together and then the minute this comes out it was so talked about in russia and obviously the whole american press right away lashed out at you saying yourself flattering to that you're a bad entry or just want to do you care to get under under your skin because that's a lot of work you do it with putting it was a lot of work but i didn't consider my i never said i was a journalist and i didn't pretend to be what i well that this is a book. a movie a film director you know me from the films and you may know me from some of the past interviews i did with the public figures but i'm not pretending to be anything else i know you said in response that you know you don't have an opinion about anything that you're doing that you're nurture role will the opinions of change because then i'm talking about the putin movie but at the same time i watched a series you said a lot of flattering things about you know do you feel like you manage to stay objective and neutral. i don't i don't and i think if you see the movies i do it's
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not good but the high try to stick to what i feel is the truth and i don't take i didn't say one false word to mr p. at all i did say what i meant when i said it when i said to him and one of the i think one of the first the things i said was it strikes me that you're this you're a son of russia because when you came into the country at a time when it was just in the dumps it was one nine hundred ninety nine two thousand the place was a mass. the real economic story and what you did was you turn things around no one can take that away from you and i think that's one of the reasons he's still popular is that because he brought a sense of place destiny a sense that we we are russian we have much to be proud of we have a history and he really is certain the concept of a sovereign country which was crucial because russia was not a sovereign country from approximately ninety one two to two thousand it was losing
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that sovereignty completely the united states was and other people were walking all over the place and basically monitoring whatever they want and they were all over the the nuclear certainly in the industry but look the point is that putin gave russia something that is really important in this world and we can get back to that because that's the bottom line is we need an anchor in the world we need a resistance to exist to the whole of the dominion of the united states i know that you know and talk about politics but this is a very happy type of question you have sighted people. who have done movies cost chavez putting them this are strongman you know obviously have attraction to strongman do you feel like this is diffused here of politics leaders like that they're very strong uncompromising. very controversial in many ways or should politics the about dialogue and political correctness well it is about the long term and these men all were open to dialogue and you can argue who did who said
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what to who but the point was that castro tried to negotiate with the united states for a long time and he was rebuffed not only was your buff he was insulted in the they tried to assassinate him many times so you know where what is dialogue dialogue is important and mr chavez certainly had a point of view he was if you remember he shook obama's hand he really who is hoping that there was going to be a new approach from the united states didn't happen so it is about dialogue it's about compromise politics and above all. give you an overall opinion of mr putin he said he's the ultimate negotiator you wear you out he really believes in talking out everything there's no there are certain points of interest for every country has its national interests and he constantly hearts on this russia has its national interests and he's open to the gut to negotiating anything but those national interests and when you cross the line. he will let you know as you know i
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pushed him whatever people say i pushed him and certainly i could feel his irritation when i was pushing him hard on the democracy question on this the question of his succession in what's going to happen next year there were times i riled him more than once but i am concerned and the reason i undertook the series was i was very concerned about going back to my relationship to russia what happened to the american russian relationship that had existed in two thousand if you like your film can change american perception and put in because it hurt because i'm doualy it has to some degree i tell you more than several million people saw it which is and this is on a premium cable channel show time is not on a national channel like in russia so you have a limited prescription audience that it was seen and seen again but it was also shown in europe in a lot of places and we had a very good debate in france i was public television channel three in france and.
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you've heard vedra in the x. foreign minister of mr beattie all defended the movie very well i thought against and the several other people against the opposition it was the debate was very french but in other words in europe in germany france these things matter italy very important now whether things change as a result it's hard to tell because the recently as you know the united states congress which stuns me voted almost unanimously for sanctions to be expanded against russia. this happened recently so it seems to be almost a reaction to trump. as putin says a domestic politics doesn't feel like trump is trying to sort of way emulate leaders like putin behalf he is i'm not sure i can't tell you what is in donald trump's head on all the anyone can and if they tell you that i don't think he's stupid i think he's a very sharp guy and i'm sure he wrecks risk. ex things he may misunderstand mr
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putin too so i don't know but he certainly hasn't lived up to the idea that he gave many people during the campaign that he was against any foreign of the interventions that he thought the united states it squandered its resources its assets in wars abroad so we there was his thinking that it would change but it hasn't changed not because of his willpower at that because he hasn't been able to get anywhere in his administration it behaves been stuck in gridlock from the beginning opposition has been severe also because of russia now because no let's can i ask you really that has been the excuse the has been attacked profoundly for russia there's no evidence as yet i've seen that indicates that russia is in any collusion with mr with donald trump i mean he's not this meant suring candidate and i thought there was a surprisingly stupid story but it got a lot of traction in america which worries me and shows you how frankly stupid the
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american voter can be if you believe that i don't believe most of them do but i could i don't know that the polling is off on it it doesn't make sense if you're saying no one that is elected gets to change the system does it even in america you know what for in america yeah well that's what mr putin says at the end of the interview if you remember he says he's been through four presidents and i asked him what's changed and he said basically nothing. so he's indicating that there's a bureaucracy he called it a bureaucracy in america they call it a deep state a bureaucracy that has been resistant to change certainly the policies towards russia have for the most part united states been highly negative since one thousand nine hundred seventy since the revolution when mr wilson president wilson set american troops to siberia to join the british expeditionary force.

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