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with the torture the enhanced interrogation programs the destruction of video interrogation tapes. all under his watch and he should be also investigated for authorizing a participating in a virtual assassination program that is endowing the president authorizing the president to kill american citizens that he unilaterally decides were implicated in national security danger based upon unsubstantiated evidence mr brennan should be under investigation for assassinations and i would drink to that ok let me go to steve here were given a peculiar situation here do believe jim comi or entry mccabe. that's a dilemma that's a really sad sad state of affairs which when you get to believe go ahead you know what i'm getting at steve go ahead well here's what yeah well of course commies got the book coming out and he's been tweeting that oh i'm going to tell my story who cares but here's the deal call me testified under oath that he never authorized
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anyone to talk to the media about the sensitive information that mccabe reportedly or allegedly talked to the media about and mccabe said that you know he was authorized to do it so and they both said this on their oath so one of them committed perjury apparently this is so outrageous and really i mean if we had an honest media in this country the new york times would be putting this story on its front page every single day documenting every single thing we're talking about and more but they couldn't ok let me go to cause you have stormy daniels out there and whatever else i'm going to go to a philip before we go to the break here phil. i'm sure general flynn is watching all of this with great interest so we have a number of people that have lied under oath in line to the f.b.i. so why should there be a prosecution of the general flynn if there is. going to be prosecutions against
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other people that lied to the f.b.i. the f.b.i. lying to the f.b.i. go ahead philip you know this is this is really the interesting aspect of the investigations people are being gotten gotten by virtue of the fact that they lied about something and nobody's really looking at what they actually did if we look at what flynn actually accomplished or did there's nothing there but the fact that he lied his way the reason he's being hung out to dry and this seems to be the process that's being followed by the investigation when you think about it that's pretty scary and it is very very all right gentlemen to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on exposing the deep states with r.t. . for a single. training
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seething. going. oh. welcome back to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing exposing the deep state. ok let me go back to bruce in washington which is let me give you a hypothetical let's say in two or three months mother wraps up his investigation and let's say hypothetically there is a damning findings that the report reveals to the public how how will it be received if so much of the things that we've been talking about in this program and
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i've been talking on cross talk for months now when we don't hear or have any investigation into the clinton foundation about how the f.b.i. was politicized during the campaign how they manipulated the campaign tried to influence it and we have one report that we will probably go we could hypothetically again like i go into finances or something about his son in law but they don't go through all the myriad of other things that we've been hearing about or about people that or people that are actively search out information like people watching this program in the sense of balance and hypocrisy will be so apparent bruce go ahead well i don't know whether that can be launched at a report that would be filed by mr mohler he's not chartered doesn't include investigating the clinton foundation or that he can do anything a one sessions can investigate on his own he can know it is not through his charter is quite limited that is not true and yet you haven't looked at the. charter peter
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it's quite narrow and in fact if you can't afford it challenging it is indictment on certain counts ok all right you're a leon test telling you you're a lawyer and foundation i have read i've read the charter numerous occasions even under the wildest delusionary given interpretation of language it cannot include the clinton foundation that doesn't mean the department on its own can investigate crime that's how it ordinarily happens the special prosecutor is an exception and there's no reason why mr sessions couldn't on his own through the criminal division i knew the criminal division i work with the criminal division began an investigation of that sort the statute of limitations has not run now how should a report be handled there is unlike in the independent counsel era which had lapsed after the clinton impeachment and acquittal at the senate we don't have an obligation of a special prosecutor report to be published moreover unlike in the independent
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counsel era there's no requirement that anybody who is accused by a special prosecutor port be given an opportunity to file a response to the accusation so the public can hear and see both sides of the of the investigative report so here the department itself could however implement some regulations that kind of open book approach to any report so somebody accused has an answer as an opportunity to state and a response said in public then can evaluate it then we will have an ability to provide some measure of credibility to the accuracy of the assertions well well said your honor we could have philip right now but my question stands is that if there is an investigation into these other activities that we've discussed it and nauseum on this program here. or maybe i should ask why wouldn't sessions not.
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point new counsel because i think it's imperative right now because as you said earlier in the program in russia gate it's so flimsy you can make it in anything you want but a lot of other things are very factual people lying under under oath unmasking leaking all of these things have legal. implications here you know talking to george papadopoulos in a bar you know i don't see the legal jeopardy but i would peter struck talking to his girlfriend looking for insurance i think we should perk up our ears and look at it more closely go ahead philip. well i hear what you're saying peter but the problem is i think that the the corruption is so broad yeah the united states government that everybody has an interest in not letting it be investigated and we probably need something go like you remember the church commission in the seventy's right basically looking into the intelligence community we need something maybe that has
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a broader brush but. as bruce has has has correctly said the mandate for from ruler is fairly strictly and narrowly defined and that of course was deliberate to add to to make sure that it doesn't really get into other issues that would expand this this investigation so broadly that it would be. a ten year job to investigate corruption in the u.s. government which we all know is pervasive you know that you're going to see that would be a career but i that would be a good this is go ahead go ahead a rush now go ahead right now right now that the the there's nothing that prevents the house dominated by republicans and the senate dominated by republicans civil fifty one forty nine forming a church committee i mean they have the majority so why have the white roosted why don't they do this why is there sessions why will they do it because we have a weak and cowardly we have a cowardly system where people do not step up for their own responsibility and we
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talk about lies as well i'll tell you one the department of justice our prosecutor right now mr james clapper then yes rector of national intelligence yes tells a lie to the senate intelligence committee that he is not gathering data on millions of americans i guess there were hundreds of millions of his statutes of limitations have been revised at least to be prosecuted the statute of limitations and all he was promoted you know he got a pay i would actually be has his passion here steve let me go to steve here could say you know bruce brings up a really good point and i think steve and i agree. on this point here where is the will power i mean the i mean we don't know what's going to happen after the midterms but between now and the midterms just exactly what breaux said is true you know we could get a church committee together but why don't the republicans get their act together go ahead steve the republican the republican leadership is feckless now and it's always been feckless said the worst of group i've ever seen
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a communicating there should be a press conference held every day with every revelation that comes out ryan and mcconnell should be there with the chairman of the various committees say this is outrageous where are you mr attorney general appoint a special prosecutor i don't know what's up with sessions i've got on many shows on i think even on that last time i was on with you peter and said by the way as anybody seen jeff sessions there very well may be an investigation going on behind the scenes into the whole f.b.i. investigation process and to hillary's e-mails and the clinton foundation but you know what i don't care about behind the scenes say this deserves a special prosecutor and do it now and if it doesn't happen i have to wonder what sessions has to fear because maybe someone's got something on him and he knows it you've got it all these things pop into your head it's that no praying or give us a special prosecutor you know you know philip you know. a really good point here if there isn't transparency you know we're going to continue down this path what i
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really worry about is that you know we will go through additional election cycles we won't learn from the mistakes of the two thousand and sixteen and will get more and more politicized and then you get a banana republic you know i mean we this cia and the f.b.i. were never set up to to work inside of domestic politics in it and there's ample evidence that that's happened in least in the last election here and if there isn't a church a committee like thing i don't see that will be able to avoid it will just keep getting repeated probably even intensify go ahead philip. you know i have i absolutely agree i mean we're you know we're kind of looking at the minutia of what's going on and there's something really big behind it that we're afraid to touch because too many special interests and and too many people in power would be affected by this and again i mean to me the the horrific thing that has has been emerging from all of this is the fact that our national security institutions and
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organs have been corrupted by this process where essentially they become part of the political system that is this is the kind of thing that occurs in. a tyranny or an autocracy where the national security is basically there to protect the party in power and that's essentially were were heading you know you know bruce way you know we have a remedy here though i did for peter let me tell you to go to bruce right now cedar point here and i want to insist yes i think what the remedy is right in the oval office mr trump in the next five minutes could tell mr sessions you appoint a special prosecutor to investigate clinton foundation or i'm firing you if there's nothing that impede to me has that power under article two if his team isn't doing the right thing he can fire them why doesn't that he'd also release mr sessions is not going to get over it really can a fire they'll get somebody who will go ahead steve steve that he could declassify
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it all that is right all the press is wives on his own candy clad yeah he can declassify it right nice any information he wishes. and that's for sure but i just saw a point out here as harry truman said rockwell lighthouse steve go ahead if you like it don't forget the role don't don't forget the role talk about the deep state the state department the f.b.i. the cia they're still full of people who don't like never like trump and are loyal to the democrats and obama and they're still in there and obama has theirs in my opinion this sort of shadow government working where strings are being told there is week after leak after leak of the most confidential conversations the president has and information from the white house and here and there and don't think that's not orchestrated so when we talk about deep state it's holdovers and again yes that's could be trouble fall to it fire them all and really drain the swamp but it's not been done ok filipino one of the things you think is you've served in
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government. former spook yourself do you think that there will ever we'll ever find out. specifically who did all of the leaking in the first hundred days of trump's administration because that's the legal those are felonies people go to jail for that do you think there will be a follow up on that go ahead philip. well i'd like to hope that there will be a follow up on that. the thing that. is notable in all these cases that there's always kind of a paper trail or there are people that are sitting in the room that basically hear what's going on and later on come out with it we have to hope for that kind of shall we say integrity in the process where the we're picking up on the things that occurred that have been carefully hidden i'm somewhat optimistic these things have a tendency to come out of ten chile and i think it would be good for the country it would be good for our democracy well also and we're going to finish on this side we
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have been there on what peter i want to correct one thing really when we don't have an official secrets act in the united states it's not automatically a crime to leak information even classified information there is an effort to get a statute like that but it has to have certain elements of aiding the enemy sabotaging the national day out under the espionage enemy can you enemy is a day to be a single lead the enemy is a model we've got a great pair gentlemen the enemies the media many thanks to my guests and want to do new york and leesburg and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time remember across. the far right britain isn't just on the march it's taking violent mother's action i know you might need to read that years you know you and i see these organizations
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continues to grow its entire life if it was thirty years old you might have a two ton fish out there and yet they don't get that big today because we're way to good catching. and it's only remnants of a much larger population was once there that was much more widely distributed we have politicians that are in office for a few years they have to get reelected everything is very very short term our system is not suited and is not cleared for long term survival and that's why we have a contest this is only a. few . a. few. under.
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the sun. the headlines on r.t. facebook is under fire after data of millions of its use is repeatedly gathered for political purposes by u.s. presidential campaigns we debate potential meddling. i understand that's kind of party line which is whatever whatever the rush. toward you know there's large things we'll see is the fact that facebook is a tool all our proxy you feel well. and also a warm welcome inside and protests outside the u.s. president talks more arms to the saudi crown prince while demonstrations call to stop washington support for the bombing of yemen. cry.
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and schools of civilians are killed as a series of rebel shellings target the suburbs of damascus one of the rockets hit a crowded market. hello there well can you watching r.t. international this wednesday afternoon is just turned two o'clock in the russian capital our top story the hash tag delete facebook has been trending on social media after it was revealed the tech giant failed to protect the data of millions of users from being used for political purposes the scandal involves the british data gathering firm called cambridge analytic it worked with multiple u.s. presidential campaigns including donald trump some reportedly harvested the details of his many as fifteen million facebook profiles for its operations the company is
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now under investigation and has even suspended its chief executive. has the story. political campaigns have changed they're no longer about running the most t.v. spots or spending the most money they're about to spend the smartest money finally a political communications company that really knows how to pitch and then they came rich and it's a house prestigious and academic connotations to again very convincing small money must mean smart ideas writes we have a unique extra layer of data about personality decisionmaking and motivation this creates an unparalleled rich and detailed view of voters in the issues they care about so you know exactly who to target with exactly what type of message cambridge and i think a claim they can do all this with a mix of data analysis and strategic communication that current list is want to boast about trump cruise cost and the list goes on so impressed so far but how
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exactly do cambridge and it's a target bosis a company now accused of using the private data of millions of facebook users to directly target potential american voters facebook is under growing pressure to explain how to protect americans personal information from people wanting to exploit it for electoral gain data analytics firm that harvested information from millions of americans without their permission tricked by tensing conditions wow suddenly doesn't seem so impressive especially when you end up in a legal feud with the social media giants and it tends outs cambridge on earth to have a not small skeletons in their closet according to britain's channel four news and they're on the cover investigation they posed as potential clients interested in the outcome of the share lankan elections last month they found cambridge on the list because secretly works to influence over two hundred elections worldwide and the tactics when so squeaky clean the two fundamental human drivers when it comes
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to taking information on board effectively our hopes and fears and many of those unspoken and even unconscious. it's no good fighting an election campaign on the facts because actually it's all about emotion but that's not what cambridge analytic publicly admit of course publicly they say that advertising is not coercive they'd also tell you they never use any ditty tactics bartz you mentioned intelligence gathering as well as part of the mix didn't you yes we have relationships and partnerships with specialist organizations that do that kind of work you know who the opposition is you know their secrets you know their tactics since some girls are run to the candidate house we have lots of history of such things with years of practice cambridge and then let's go have become real pros that having the result they want if we are working and then we can set our free cady's and websites we can go in our students doing research projects attached to
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university we can be tourists there are so many options we can look at i've had lots of experience in this at cambridge i'm a little we are creating the future of political campaigning. so it's a story with twists out tens of action meddling thwaite in the minds of voters using dirty tricks but something is missing oh and the narrative that russia must be behind it all now that it's an impressive result mr sethi reporting there will donald trump's campaign is not the first to use facebook's data gathering for political purposes a former official on barack obama's campaign revealed how in two thousand and twelve they obtained much more personal information than their republican rivals carol davidson added it was all things to loopholes in facebook's privacy terms at the time. facebook twenty five election we got people to opt in and the privacy policies at that time on facebook worried that if they opted in they could
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tell us who all their friends were where this gets complicated is that freak facebook out. so they shut off the feature so that is out there you can't take it back so the democrats have this information well we discussed this issue with richard goodstein he's a former adviser to hillary clinton's campaign and also with legal media analyst line. looks like it's undisputed that they did things that either were clearly against the law campaign finance laws the involvement of foreigners and u.s. election campaigns let alone kind of the moral approach of basically pretending to be something that they weren't. so they either clearly would over the line or they they went right up to it and i think that's what investigators where the state attorneys general i'm sure congress will look into it whether this justice department looks into it because donald trump was the beneficiary of his campaign that they worked with i wouldn't exactly hold my breath on that happening the
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entire point is being missed here is not cambridge analytic is the fact that facebook is a tool a proxy if you will of that government and it's a surveillance unit it was conceived it through darpa through seed money this this phasing this oh do you think they use the information against there are you kidding me facebook apple everything that we do is basically sucking up every bit of information we have where has the world big you're living in and the pan optic on and when barak obama was the you beneficiary of facebook data i'll be it not cold and gleaned by these characters like especially don't forget legs and in action american you say that and that immediately turned that's the
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dog whistle went missing the point this is about a surveillance world that we live in that's being utilized by everybody constantly look we've already had facebook why publicly about what they did and didn't know they finally had to come clean right because i actually think they have a bit of a guilty conscience having worked with to try. campaign to do things that are frankly kind of un-american so you know we'll see i understand that's the kind of party line which is whatever whatever the russian box may have done was dwarfed by you know this large things we'll see what did they do that was un-american what well again they paid they they ran messages that pitted blacks against whites they got under the skin of blacks because some of them claim that they were whites were coming after them and vice versa you are telling me that all of a sudden the russians are who are the russians is the russian government that lattimer putin is at the kremlin some guy with a russian name who are these russians so let me get this straight when we had
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prayed president barbaric obama who basically went and absolutely not only colluded with but actively campaigned against bibi netanyahu no problem then he went we guarding brags that he said you're going to be waiting in the queue if you don't or if you vote for braggs it may be also when actually involved himself in the scottish independence movement as well so we we don't seem to care about this and i can't believe it that we have gone from that to this dainty miniscule didn't move him is microstamping buying a facebook ad and somebody is going to say oh wait a minute hold it i was going to vote for hillary clinton but now where i just how did you say this facebook ad that said i mean really this is that with all due respect this is the best the russians have facebook ads if lionel is of the view
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that all those billions of dollars that spent worldwide on advertising on news channels like our tears and others is just absolutely just wasting money to save you might as well throw it out the window if that's your attitude then obviously i'm not going to persuade him or anybody who believes that that by you know that's what he's going to affect anybody's opinion light oh no she is me i didn't really know what that. so i say my point is my point is my point is that yes i think facebook should be ashamed of itself because the evidence seems to be that it knew exactly what it was what its role in this was and in a sense it was kind of facilitating this in the interest of making a buck and i think that's why. it was to become the main topic for the talks between the saudi crown prince and the u.s. president on tuesday and did find a creative way to to present his potential customers with more military hardware.
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