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and i think that's what investigators were that the state attorneys general i'm sure congress will look into it whether this justice department looks into it because donald trump was the beneficiary of his campaign that they worked with i wouldn't exactly hold my breath on that happening the entire point is being missed here is not cambridge analytic is the fact that facebook is a tool a proxy if you will of that government and it's a surveillance unit it was conceived it through darpa through seed money this this faith oh do you think they use the information against there are you kidding me facebook apple everything that we do is basically sucking up every bit of information we have where has the world big you're living in and the pan optic on and when barak obama was the you beneficiary of facebook data i'll
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be not cold and gleaned by these characters like especially don't forget legs and did in action american you say that and that immediately turned that's the dog whistle went missing the point this is about a surveillance world that we live in that's being utilized by everybody constantly look we've already had facebook why publicly about what they did and didn't know they finally had to come clean right because i actually think they have a bit of a guilty conscience having worked with the trump campaign to do things that are frankly kind of un-american so you know we'll see i understand that's the kind of party line which is whatever whatever the russian box may have done was dwarfed by you know this large things we'll see what did they do that was un-american what well again they paid they they ran messages that pitted blacks against whites they got under the skin of blacks because. their claim that they were white for coming
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after them and vice versa you're telling me that all the sudden the russians are who are the russians is the russian government that lattimer putin is it the kremlin some guy with a russian name who are these russians so let me get this straight when we had prayer president barbaric obama who basically went and absolutely not only colluded with but actively campaigned against bibi netanyahu no problem then he went we guarding brags that he said you're going to be waiting in the queue if you don't or if you vote for braggs let me also well actually involve himself in the scottish independence movement as well so we we don't seem to care about this and i can't believe it that we have gone from that to this gayety miniscule didn't move him is microstamping buying a facebook ad and somebody is going to say oh wait a minute hold it i was going to vote for hillary clinton but now where i just how
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did you say this facebook ad that said i mean really this is this with all due respect this is the best the russians have facebook ads if lionel is of the view that all those billions of dollars that spent worldwide on advertising on news channels like our tears and others is just absolutely just wasting money to save you might as well throw it out the window if that's your attitude then obviously i'm not going to persuade him or anybody who believes that that by you know that's i don't want to go to affect anybody's opinion light oh no she is me i didn't really know what to do so i said my point is my point is my point is that yes i think facebook should be ashamed of itself because the evidence seems to be that it knew exactly what it was what its role in this was and in a sense it was kind of facilitating this in the interest of making a buck and i think that's wrong. another news this evening a series of misses out attacks have struck government controlled suburbs of the
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syrian capital killing at least forty to pay paul. this is all about a bit of my relatives are injured my wife and daughter are in surgery right now. the was was only a moment i love my son told me he wanted to celebrate mother's day with me so i told him let's go to the market she bought a cake i was buying sweets when the explosion happened i saw only a lot of dust and my children under the table i think the. local state media say that rebels in eastern guta carried out the shelling attacks many of the victims died when one of the rockets there hit a crowded market local journalist him visited the site poses one of the largest single rocket strikes that ever had the syrian capital damascus since the beginning
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of the conflict back in two thousand and eleven the rockets hit a popular mall in the marketplace before three crowded harkless people shopping because today people interested operate mother's day and many people are buying their gifts yesterday and when the shells hurt leaving the small number of the civilians and kept a popular stock i when we got out sorry we couldn't see anything because of the dust a real massacre i swear i wouldn't wish anyone to witness a scene like this it's really saddening. in the past forty eight hours the syrian army was able to make substantial goodies and the through move through no controls over thirty percent of fourth was once one of the most important of course was to syria couple damascus trouble holding clothes it was believed that that isn't the solution many of the quarters of the rebels were established perhaps this is the reason why the rebels have stepped up their rocket attacks on this route couple of damascus damascus have seen an increase in the number of rockets that hit it over
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the past twenty four hours but also the quality of. the caliber of the rockets that rebels are using to show pick up will damascus. now president congratulating flat emir putin on his election win has caused outrage among some politicians and parts of the media to defied his national security advisers who board him not to congratulate the russian leader do not say congratulations or capital letters and then the president gets on the phone with them and says congratulations you shouldn't be congratulating president putin for that share of a lecture but he just did it anyway dangerous strong man who was threatening western democracy that requires a strong response so dark some call up to say the boy well senator john mccain here went so far as to accuse president trump of insulting every russian citizen who was denied the right to vote in a free and fair election so let's get some reaction now from
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a janitor and she's independent member of the european parliament to the southeast of england and joins us now you very welcome janet what's your reaction to this why do you think that trump has been so strongly criticised for congratulating poutine . well here i when i visited washington last december i actually went to one of senator mccain's institute the international republican institute i thought i was at home in those pictures of ronald reagan around the war it soon became clear it wasn't and they were banging the table and saying have you allowed the f.p.o. in austria to take power we cannot allow matter else you need to take power look what's happened with marina pen and then they turned their guns on russia they said were openly promoting democracy in ukraine well that's going down really well isn't it because you've now got neo nazis operating in ukraine it was ukraine or thorazine is that stop the russians from voting in their election on sunday. when i
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was in the open the banging this hate to say you can't allow the populace to win they're the same people that support the filed presidential candidate mccain the american public rejected him a number of years ago and chose obama so i think it's a real sour grapes or somebody like president trump a one and he's called up another world leader so the main world leaders to congratulate him thus diplomacy but i think actually they've got more in common charm and peace in that that actually divides them it is just a matter of protocol isn't it some mind many people would argue in europe to you jan if you know that john claude younker received a similar treatment to you didn't he after congratulating putin. you know you're in you're in brussels you understand what the mood is like in europe can you just sum it up for us why is there this sort of feeling that people should not be congratulating president putin. well that the part of the split quite deeply on this of course my group the n.f.
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and also the year we voted against the sanctions that have been imposed and so it's rather disingenuous of somebody like mr younker an unelected commissioner to say i would support. russia and europe relations but they're actually encouraging the sanctions but i would say take heart to moscow mr putin because in may twenty nineteen the elections in the european elections there be a whole different parliament coming back mrs merkel scruple beasts of severely diminished the socialist thankfully will be severely diminished and it will be hard the extreme left that unfortunately will come back with more voters more any pays but our group the euro skeptics the f.t. group the e.c.r. and my group the europe of nations of freedom we will come back stronger so i think the tables are going to be turning but you know when they were all lining up with mrs may at the weekend when i was in russia in vision rating at the elections they
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started leaving one by one first it was macro that picked up the phone to president putin then it was merkel then it was mr trump then it was the it was mr younker so they completely defied it so this situation is going only going to last for another fifteen months particularly in the u.k. at the moment janice can speak with consideration to what's going on with the poisoning scandals are going to clear power to jeremy corbyn was widely criticised for saying that the u.k. should try and work with russia why do you think they rounded on him so quickly and do you think that's a situation that will last there. because they were the globalists want the status quo i think it would be a disastrous for my country if somebody like jeremy corbyn who is a marxist at the end of the day was to take over power in this country but what he was i think what he was trying to do because i don't understand the man's mindset on many issues but he was trying to promote a balance a few and all he was saying is let's hand over some of the evidence that we've got
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a lot of the russians comment in this country we have a democracy and we have rule of law so you wouldn't actually convict somebody without showing the opposition what the evidence is and that's all i would ask them to do the mainstream media here sneer and criticize i would just hand over the nerve agent no we hope we hand over the documentation that we've got but that evidence is changing day by day when i was in russia over the weekend i met with mr cheeper who had actually been commented in the british media and he say that they thought brought over in in bags by only five milligrams of a nerd nerve agent would have just killed thirty or forty people in the room so i would say to my government please hand over the evidence and that's have that have a balance to base on this and i think in the u.k. that argument is now shifting there's a good article in the financial times today talking about the other side of the
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argument on the on the answer questions by the british government and just finally on a personal note if you janice know you were here during the elections as an observer what were your experiences here just let people know just be honest whatever you want i mean did you feel under any pressure while you were here or did you see anything untoward no none whatsoever there's more we've got more in common with russians than devices we've got very deep cultural links i think there's anything that divides us maybe it is a language i did have reservations about coming because i left the frankfurt via brussels to come and strasburg to to come. moscow our last thursday and i did have reservations but i was made very very welcome and i said i don't want to comment on the screen case because i just don't know and i found that everybody that was just asking for about a stark image was it was attacked but i just found everybody so very very friendly i went to many polling stations there were lots of international observers there
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and who knows what goes on behind the scenes but there was one particular media i think we sort of facebook of can't remember where so-called extra ballot papers were being pushed into a ballot box now i would just say that only ten percent of ballot boxes or manual crossin who you're going to vote for the majority which is ninety percent are actually electronic and i watched the electronic process which is very smooth and verification of people showing their passports get through so it's only ten percent of paper ballots and they are monitored so i don't know where that about screen shot came from ok all right janet we've run out of time but really appreciate your time today coming on to r.t. thanks very much that was janet and concerned independent m.e.p. for the southeast of england region thank you. and thank you at home to you for watching us we're going to be back with more news in thirty five minutes.
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it would appear the more the political left and their allies in the corporate media attack donald trump the more we learn about the corrupt behavior of the deep state the firing of andrew mackay but the f.b.i. is taking some point is this the beginning of a purge. apply to many clubs over the years so i know the game and so i got. the ball isn't only about what happens on the pitch for the final school it's about the passion from the fans it's the age of the super money kill the narrowness and spend the children twenty million. it's an experience like nothing else not to because i want to share what i think what i know about the beautiful game great so what chance with.
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the base it's going to. have again the new stable this became the main topic for the talks between the saudi crown prince and the u.s. president on change day and more trying to find a creative way to present his potential customer with more military hardware. three billion dollars five hundred thirty three million dollars five hundred twenty five million dollars the screen or three year period so here is a very wealthy nation and we're going to give the united states some of them well
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hopefully. however their meeting was met with protests to use activists did call on washington to stop backing the saudi led bombing of yemen but there's a cry out the crown prince is here in the u.s. it is inside the white house right now meeting with the president trying he's here to secure a cure for u.s. weapons to be used against the enemy and to bargain himself as the reformer well being responsible for creating the worst humanitarian disaster on earth yet. meanwhile the saudi crown prince and president trump are also expected to discuss a possible nuclear energy cooperation deal congress is weighing in today by debating any possibly agreement later on wednesday that is after it was reported the saudis would reject any deal that forbade them from enriching uranium the crime
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prince said to that riyadh needed the option of pursuing a nuclear weapons program to counter iran the sort of directing them to saudi arabia does not want to acquire any nuclear bomb but without a doubt if iran developed a nuclear bomb we will follow suit as soon as possible. i mean i can. deal with. you know about this is nuclear the will actually at the nuclear release in that part of the world that the whole of the east if the saudi would like to. nuclear they have to start from scratch they don't know and you can't begin to we don't expect actually to run these kind of nuclear plants so and so the question is is that american going to supply them with that expect these plants for actually for what reason and what they are going to gain from this deal
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in particular i believe that american if they ignite this at least when you look at least in the region it would be very costly and it's very very dangerous so i think that's how the in this case they will try to do their own nuclear bombs see where i'm going to be ten so it is it is sixteen to be used so that's how the news is working safe today here in r.t. don't forget you can also keep yourself updated on our social media pages and you can check. i'm afshin rattansi we're going underground on the day to resumes appointed judge summit in more big begins procedural hearings for the inquiry into one of britain's worst tragedies grenfell coming up in the show we ask
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a former senior british intelligence officer why london now says moscow has been stockpiling the nerve agents six months after the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons announced complete destruction of russia's chemical weapons stock and are we going to war with iran and who will. we fired next to washington we get the lowdown on the only world leader as a whole to raise him a his hand from a member of donald trump's media advisory board dr gene allows for some headlines not states and mine this is the reason they are the oil company that wants to test this to frack costs all the civil coming of a day is going underground at first this week marks nineteen years since britain went to doing arguably illegal war against a sovereign nation without any resolution from the un security council mandating violence no no the iraq russian backed serbia in yugoslavia and even defacto china in yugoslavia in
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a sense the un is sidelined in all of this the russians and chinese made it clear some months ago that they couldn't support military threats but we simply couldn't stand by and do nothing as a result of russian and chinese our eight years later nato supreme allied commander of that war general wesley clark explained what the pentagon would then tell him i came back to see him a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing in afghanistan i said are we still going to war with iraq in general which worse than that he said. as he picked up a piece of paper he said i just he said i just got this down from upstairs me secor defense office today and he said this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years starting with iraq and in syria lebanon libya somalia sudan and finishing off iran . of those seven countries iraq is arguably under a rainy in orbit and syria has kind of wanted to war against u.k. backed regime change somalia and libya destabilized by britain went to resume
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a was in government fighting islam ists in fact libya is in the news because of the detention of former french president nicolas sarkozy sudan meanwhile is allied to brics china and yemen bombed with weapons supplied by tourism is government represents the world's worst humanitarian crisis for iran the world waits for donald trump to rip up the iran nuclear deal signed in vienna in twenty fifteen here's his former national security advisor mike flynn on this show talking about the iranian threat and why russia should be involved with any confrontation with the islamic republic it's facing all of us it's facing the world and we have to recognize and we cannot keep. catering to nations like iran which are part of it and i think for russia and i've said this before on this network that russia has to take a different view of how they deal with iran interestingly it was allegedly iran in conjunction with the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons that
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synthesize novacek back in twenty sixteen our only real knowledge arguably of the agents claimed by juries or made to have been used in the poisonings of a m i six agent in england comes because of iran no wonder some might say the britons partners use the diplomatic phrase overtype made by russia rather than from russia as o.p.c. w. scientists today investigate i'm joined now by philip ingram a twenty seven year veteran of the u.k. army intelligence corps worked in iraq northern ireland and yugoslavia philip thanks for coming on just before we get on to the atrocity in wilcher why you appearing on the this kremlin controlled network that to resume is counted and will handing off been given the editorial direction as to what it is and to say or not to say so you know i believe in free speech and you're giving me free speech so we'll get the message out we'll let. get this you believe the prime minister which says the only credible explanation it went from highly likely to credible explanation to plausible is that russia is responsible for the attempted murder of
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the scribbles i do. do for a number of reasons but you you mentioned just before i came on about other countries that there's been reports that they produce no beatup style agents nobody talks for a group there are so many different chemicals that could fall within the group and as a group the international community knew very very little about it remember the o.p.c. w. got responsibility to oversee the destruction of weapons other been declared to them and anything that's not declared and programs they need to try and find out about it and have other oversight but there's two reasons when you look at. how the attack happened in salzburg and the first one is who's got the capability of producing this type of chemicals so many countries that have the ability to produce a joke surely know what you're going straight to tel aviv though it would i wouldn't say washington or britain i wouldn't i would say so many countries you
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know scientifically there are a number of countries around the world that have the laboratories and have the capability if they want to produce it to produce it i suspect. but then the most important thing is you have to look at why you what was the intent for this engine to be produced and used in the way it was and it's when you get into analyzing the intent that a lot of the indicators point towards russia so the intent was to destroy russia's reputation over the world cup no not not not not the slightest you know the intent i think was to send a very clear message and i think this is why i believe that with russia if you look at the type of agent you know whoever used that agent and also say whoever at this time wanted to make it clear that they were using something that was novel that was horrible it was terrifying they were sending a message so we then need to look to see what sort of messages were they sending and i think there's you know there's a number of pieces here the first one was and i think this is the lowest priority
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message to a defector someone who had betrayed his home country was we don't even though he'd been pardoned even though we've been pardoned will get them but we've heard president putin say on television that you know he will go after anyone who has. acted against mother russia when it was a rhetorical flourish about betrayal and i mean we have we've seen we've seen that in a number of cases the second thing is i think to send a message to the international community in the same way that we have seen security council resolutions being voted against we have seen with the un exception of crude . the support that's going on for rebels in eastern ukraine with the movement of a carrier battle group down into the mediterranean to fly jets against the rebels that we're fighting in syria what president putin is doing is showing to the
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world that russia is not going to be messed around with and not sending a very clear statement domestically that russia is by. on the world's superpower market you said there's a message into the world was the domestic messaging and surprise surprise this happened two weeks before the president's election and president putin is a character is a strong character and want to be a greater percentage of the vote than they got in the last election so the final part of the message i think this was the primary reason for using a very nasty chemical and using it in such a public way was to send a clear message to those dissenters that could actually hurt him were every you are in the world just watch out because they didn't get you they didn't know before obviously this is all circumstantial evidence one could use exactly these facts to create a different reality when you obviously feel you are understand the kremlin more and you've you've worked in intelligence i've got i'm going to get to this. why is it
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that even though the o.p.c. w the british ambassador you're busy w. indeed congratulated russia on the complete destruction of verifiable destruction of all the chemical weapons in the past few months that the foreign secretary boris johnson said that within the past ten years russia has definitely been making chemical weapons no virtual sex is this. one of this intelligence or suddenly appeared on. what one one or says the barossa fact. and is known for making a very bold comments that may not necessarily be based on ever anything that's there i don't know what intelligence has come across his desk is it normal for intelligence we had else on a television program not not not at all and therefore i would put this down as a as a boris's i'm in you know he's making a statement for in effect that he's understood him himself but what it will be is he will have had
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a better understanding because his foreign secretary and he will be briefed it would have been briefed and overtalk on threats from novi talk because there was no reason for that up until this in. that happened i'm not all of a sudden your large proportion of briefs that will be going across his desk will be nobody talk i'm giving him all of the background detail the probability is of course that we have that iraq example of where the evidence was used to fit geo political policy you're presenting it is dispassionate intelligence offices dispassionate law enforcement little dispassionate government. isn't the problem here that i mean even this phrase of a type made in russia. a very important journalist then kim jong un's brother when he was killed by a v.x. nerve gas the british government could be blamed because britain invented vx nerve gas all that kind. of thing i think i think using that they could appropriate to say of a type that was invented by the british i'm sure the series of agents the next one
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was one that was developed the british between one hundred fifty two and fifty four so sure but why jump the gun on the p.c. w that's investigating today and will sure why don't wait for the outcome of the u.n. inspectors well i think there's two aspects to this the first is the the political aspect you know the prime minister was under some political pressure not least of which from the opposition parties to give a statement as to what happened and to take cycling jerico would say she had to apportion blame immediately for the labor from bajor the i said i would wait for their proper i don't i don't i don't think the prime minister would have apportion blame unless she had some very strong intelligence that will not be released into the public and that intelligent supersedes the official u.n. inspector report the un inspectors report. whenever i worked with the united nations on them i'm not knocking them in any way shape or form but because every
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country in the world is a member the united nations we close we used to recognise google as having a higher class of occasion than united nations intelligence and once a point of view of the c.w. being i will shoot it well with. our bringing in a set of independent spector's they can either use the facilities important on to examine the agent and they probably will there and see what's going on and look at it as much as they possibly can and to. try and examine the assessment that's been made and come up with their own conclusions. and then the public take a sample of it away to their own laboratory so they can independently. look at the engine that's been used and apportion their own views to where they think it's come from and that's very important to get the sort of independent oversight that you think is political pressure that cause to raise a way to jump the gun as well i think either a little pressure i think is a political necessity and i think there's a necessity for the people who come.

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