this shows is that it's a matter of principle not politics and this bringing refugee families together it's about compassion is about humanity and above all it's about family so that it's not a political issue i think everyone can relate to them so if i was that i name p. disinclined to be supportive of this legislation what would you what would you at the c.r.c. to me to try and bring me on board or surprise yourself in the shoes of a refugee i think everyone would want their family close family members to be safe i think that's what everyone wants is a really basic human instinct this bill wouldn't seek to open the floodgates it would just mean that for a very small number of refugees they would be able to bring children children will be able to bring their parents these are people who have fled desperate circumstances war conflict human rights abuses and i think that we can be compassionate we can offer a humanitarian safe legal route for people who have fled unimaginable dangers and i

think that you know i really hope that we can see this bill through to committee stage so that it does become a reality that fit me and impassioned plea almost as good as i'm spending make you look like i cannot get through just before we finish the situation a deletion to unaccompanied children we have a sense of toll of of where they are and what numbers we're dealing with. well as we are reaching the summer months then we're likely to see the number of boats crossing the mentoring in increase people leaving libya because you know war is still force and huge numbers of people from sub-saharan africa conflicts in. in south sudan and people are fleeing these conflicts and they will always try to seek a safer place also from syria iraq afghanistan the boats will keep arriving and often parents do have to me. a very difficult choice to put that children to make to make

these dangerous journeys so we are likely to see a numbers increase of unaccompanied children who are arriving in europe as as we reach the summit once finally i just wanted to wind up to get an idea of where we are and the poor say we've got through one of the hard tolls it's going to committee stage so to get people watching at a time line what's next well we'll be meeting with them pays there will be a committee we hope to keep the public pressure on the government to keep this full front and there will also be an immigration bill that we're expecting some time we don't know when in the autumn so we really hope that one way or the other either through the private member's bill or three the immigration bill we will be able to make this little reality a lot of wished you all the very based of luck with all the what you do and all the agencies you're doing to to get this across the final hurdle i think many people think it's absolutely the right thing to do thank you for all the p.f.s.

and thank you very much for joining us on the show coming up after the break we'll be hearing from the member of parliament behind the bill i'm spending macneil. break for a single. day as. they start training very young. seven sets of school. rats. and they saved lives.

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welcome back and i'm delighted to be joined by the member of parliament who's piloting this private member's bill the refugee family reunion bill through stages in the house of parliament welcome to the alec simon show angus brenda mcneill thank you very much alex a great pleasure to be here indeed for the case that is the of the human ear and i was watching the proceedings in the commons and went up to the members of the a little bit difficult of the gallic mine is very good and had a few years of practice after that. now you've had a substantial achievement already getting a bill of private members bill for second reading when it's not supported by the government that doesn't happen very often what do you attribute that success so far well one thing a number of people of come behind this i mean on the day we'd support from five political parties the beloved all the support of seven political parties but really this is a good samaritan bill in any member from any political party who's of goodwill

could be piloting this bill through fortunately i've been the one who's got into the situation who can take the bill forward and we've got tremendous support from the u.n. refugee council the british red cross oxfam misty and a number of other good intentioned organizations you started your speech by talking about example which i thought was very powerful this is your highness who you've met from from accountability tell us about how he's affected by this bill and what his situation that you have is a very interesting back story he's a refugee he was skipped from a tear in a tear had been he would have been conscripted into a very brutal military we have refugees who have for themselves escaping and it's a because all of siblings have been passed down to murdered so your highness went through saddam and then he went with people traffickers across the sahara and two weeks in the back of a lot two weeks in the back of a pick up and the pick up of the warden if they fell out that was them they would

have been. after that they then they were so tightly jammed in the pick up that they can without arms by their side so i was with a table for two weeks and there was from tripoli in northern libya a boat across the mediterranean before they're picked up by the italian navy so your highness at that age was sixteen and i think issue and remarkable determination in life which is standing in very good stead no but your highness if this bill came through would be able to sponsor his sister who is no in a camp and sudan to come and join him if he gets to sponsor he's been granted refugee status and he would then get to bring a family member to this country as well so this would enable your highness to have the same rights and out of refuge and to sponsor family members to come with them rather than leave him alone and isolated incidentally another side of it. refused to bring children over the age of eighteen because they have cases where some people been able to bring the children under eighteen with them but not the

children over eighteen so an adult who's been granted asylum been classified as a few g. and feet of their life returning to the home country they would be able to to bring a child into this cause the law stands as a last chance but a child doesn't isn't able to bring an adult to accompany them into this country once they've been granted status that's absolutely the situation and if anybody needs the support of a family you would say more so the child than than the adult and it is a really strange and bizarre situation the u.k. has got this and i think it lead allied to the arguments that were made by some in the debate that this would be a pull factor because if it means that people some people are worried that. just to take your example somebody from if your people would smuggle a child into them to this country and then use that as a means of getting at mittens themselves isn't anything and i don't know i think

firstly if it was something that argument i think. adults would be going on mass themselves but they're not seeing this in any other european countries that children are coming just to be an anchor childless i think tennis i think was best summed up by lord cared of can look aired in the house of lords when he said it was some swifty in joke to madge and that you would gamble your child's life for a month across the sahara in support ever sort of boat across the mediterranean in the very hope that you might find yourself in a european country but it's not an argument that some people might put forward the fate of li rewarding people for illegally getting themselves into this country i think you've got to remember these are refugees granted refugee status and surely we've all got the right to family life and if somebody is a refugee then that here very legitimately for fear of their lives and being here and the feel of your life on the field of board whatever damage it could possibly occur to you you deserve to have rights you don't deserve to be treated like a social leper why can i don't refugees have rights to family to sponsor family

members to come but child refugees of all people child refugees can't do that when it's just a case as some people seem to suggest in their debate that this might open up open up all the floodgates is the usual term used and we've also got to remember that once we take the label refugees away from people they're only refugees for a short period of their lives you've got welders good teachers you've got nurses you've got everything society needs and i've been at any age when they're just beginning their productive lives so you know if you want to be really messed me but this we should actually be looking for more people like this with the drive and the determination to cross the sahara to cross the mediterranean i certainly would have done that when i was nineteen years old and didn't know. so people like that i think a great asset once they start to be a start to interact with society and interact with work and interact with people and about them so there's a lot of support for your bill learn how to be to get it through but there was

opposition as. well and moments of passion in the debate which is quite surprising often in a private member's legislation which offer this totally non-controversial were you surprised at that interchange during your bill and was there nothing would surprise me most was the sort of the tabloid nature of some of it from people should know better people didn't address the point abbott a child refugee getting the same rights as adult refugees but it generally smeared feared of the the reason of of one refugee committing some marked in some european cities when there are sixty five million refugees across the world i mean if a scots person did something bad some are u.k. passionate but some are european and some something bad someone has that smeared all europeans all u.k. people all scots know so why why dredge up an example of that and i think i think at the end of the day that was seen for what it was know your flu that triumphantly through a second reading vote but many obstacles still to come so what happens no two to

your legislation having got it through second today will there's still a fair distance to travel looking like it'll be six months time before mining get to committee and then of course we've got another couple stages in the house of commons and got to go to those of lords as well famously lot dops to for years but had a huge success against the government's wishes himself a child refugee from that's a german in the can the transport program that that's the sort of member who you hope will come in behind your bill absolutely and sort of em but i expect we'll combine the bill and it's been a round of some of the gatherings we've had around this bill and the moment you bring refugees and people seem to be all angsty about it but then after a while when people have integrated after a few months in a few years and contributed to society people are glad they've brought them in whether they be welders or shopkeepers or doctors or whatever. there's been a huge cycle dividend in just about every society in the west a stick of refugees from canada because you tip everywhere. special holocaust

memorial day edition of the sure and if you'd fairly normal or a survivor of the concentration camps just had an amazing in maine two plus year old living in a conservative west country for so long for the most extraordinary life story. relate to thing. if your bill is successful or if the government makes a concession towards your bill some appropriate stage. the measure of the limited in nature might actually be successful and in saving someone from from from a pesach you shouldn't or even death yeah i think it i think it will do that and you know your highness's story and having crossed the saddle with people traffickers knowing what the law in that empty desert as an end of the people traffickers guns to put it delicately secondly doesn't want his sister to be travelling on that journey so that stops him sleeping at night. so if you can

change that situation and she could just travel safely just get in an aircraft short papers and come over and she do that in a few hours problem solved and people's lives have been changed and you know what goes around comes out and this is a piece of legislation that's also a campaign and you've been campaigning with these organizations supporting your bill weight range of organizations how important is their actions outside parliament to helping the progress of your legislation inside hugely i mean i think the help of the un had the biggest red cross in particular oxfam misty the refugee council of massive impact and the huge push amongst the members which gets you down to the public and the been the public in turn push m.p.'s and make things happen there the support of actresses such as julia stevenson that's an inborn the id. the kaiser chiefs a number of people have come on board and have used their privileged position in a way to help others acknowledge privileged position has been very pleasing but we

do need and we have to push for that in the government so one of the most gratifying things at the end of the bill was a young twenty researcher came up to me and put them in their quarters as a comment after these m.p.'s put it against me to see his office and all the stuff where on side with me and what we're trying to. doing everybody else so your legislation your campaign last father is a sudden the maton experience which has persuaded you you've got to drive on with this bill with this legislation yeah absolutely one of after the devote on on the on the bill in the house of commons on the gallery people started celebrating clapping their hands and you know there's a bit of a who how that's unusual to have the speaker low that i think the load of a two three seconds before they said we have to move on but you know there was a no put in of genuine relief and happiness but i meant you had this is given a young lady from sudan and had to explain how to under harness that this is only

one of the stages of the bill because you could have been misled for thinking at the moment of celebration that that was it it was sorted and deceit face to say you can't yet bring your family in from sudan. you can't yet move on as we hope because there are so many other stages he said lee felt the pressure of we must deliver on this because that i know a lot of people whose hopes have been raised you know want to dash those hopes and they just got hopes of normal people to be with their loved ones and especially neal thank you so much for joining us in l.a. some of the pleasure thanks a lot ali thank you and my time in the house of commons i saw many a great idea shot down in flames when it was introduced as a private member's bill according to the conventional law of politics the only way to have a good chance for a private is to make it so i'm contentious that the government offered to shepherd it for themselves even some measures which of the tacit support of government could still be vulnerable to underhand parliamentary tactics like filibustering from

a few last debt shows in the backbenches the effort to get a bill not supported by the government through its second reading is no small matter. there was i guess when they'll accept he's fairly far from the home straight government opposition will likely still sink his bill and committee. where those life that us hope and the campaign. will be crucial and busway the government to adopt a humanitarian course to let wright. from taza me an exciting show good bye for now.

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i. clashes erupt on the streets of paris during a nationwide strike over president economic reforms. the leaders gather in brussels and condemn russia for its alleged role in poisoning of a former double agent in the u.k. . as the son of a former libyan leader moammar gadhafi brothers for president we speak exclusively to saif al islam gadhafi lawyer. the situation you have libya now is the result of the destruction of the state institutions not amused. print the proceeds maybe i would send back tweets road money that we become

a democratic sophron state. by broadcasting live direct from our studios most of this is arts international and john holmes with us. now public services have ground to a halt across france during a nationwide strike over labor reforms and up to thirty percent of long haul flights have been affected and many schools were closed on thursday in march say and lie on thousands of people took to the streets and in paris the unrest escalated into clashes with police. her.

new only brought up one of you know we are not here to be violent we are here to protest democratically against the liberal politics of macro wanted by the car because without a market we disagree with the governments we can't accept this reforms that's why we are always here with us who's the most like a for is the promises he made i think it's absolutely not been fulfilled. during the rallies in paris protesters threw rocks at officers who responded with water cannons or to use charlie devinsky was at one of the flashpoints for. thousands of people who have been marching in paris only stay over the national strikes they couldn't sing here now about the past even where they trying to make a voice is clear to the government of president michael saying they're unhappy with many of the ideas of p.c. ministration including the times to cut one hundred and twenty thousand jobs in the five years if he's a president see people say they are unhappy with the working conditions and they

want to make sure they're poor he says loud and clear that have a penis some violent confrontations during this day a strike aimed at paris now where police clashed with the protest is some suggesting that the police had used the extreme violence and some of the protesters had been injured this is a nationwide day strike shoes in many parts of the country catching a bolt from the civil servants to the right way start to students or hit to voice their concerns with this current administration this is actually also the first over thirty seven days of strikes by the red. ways these strikes are going to take place over the next few months until the end of june the way we're saying this is the only way they can get. speak directly with the government about changes that are proposed and if we're also be mass cancellations. fines and of

course many schools have been closed have been affected. because of this strike. not see paris meanwhile in the western french city of riot police used tear gas to break up the crowd demonstrators fought back with smoke bombs and flares. the u.k. defense ministry has been caught up in the scandal surrounding cambridge analytic the firm allegedly harvested the person hold data of millions of facebook users and exploited it for political goals has now emerged in cambridge on the little parent company as c l group used to be on the payroll of the u.k. defense ministry and provided the government with so-called psycho social research at a cost of around two hundred thousand pounds and he was even granted access to classified files chris nine am from the stop the war coalition says the revelations are

alarming. i don't really believe the ministry of defense should be involved in a company one arm of which at least is in gauged in a series of campaigns around the world of propaganda manipulation apparently and political interference secondly i don't really see why the ministry of defense is in any case spending huge amounts of money on. the kind of propaganda work and finally the question of secrecy i mean apparently this company was given access to top secret information and this seems to me to be an extremely. worrying revelation. facebook founder mark zuckerberg has for the first time commented on the massive data breach in a lengthy apology zuckerberg admitted to the company's privacy policies have failed he added that the company will learn from his experience to make the community

safer for everybody looking for. even though the scandal concerns an american tech giant and a u.k. data mining company have still been attempts in the media to tie the story to russia or to have comments. imagine being a liberal a democrat and being stuck in a trump presidency for a year is it must be horrible waking up every day guessing that what russia is songe boughts or hackers have cooked up the day came original that i had powerful connections to candidate trump including one time top adviser steve bannon and billionaire donor robert mercer so presidential son in law jared cushion or and consultant brad parr scale brought in the company which is now accused of utilizing data from fifty million facebook users without permission facebook was how donald

trump was going to win wait a sec something's wrong where's the bad guy who do we blame this on. there it is questions are also swirling about a possible link to russian metal cambridge c.e.o. reached out to julian a songs of wiki leaks seeking access to e-mails from hillary clinton's private server there's no evidence ricky leaks had such information but wiki leaks was releasing e-mails from the computers of other democrats which authorities say were hacked by russians and another trump advisor roger stone great innings i actually have communicated with this what how do you even make the connection what's your logic if someone speaks to a songe their russian agent there is zero connection here other than the word russia being in every other sentence there is only one explanation c n n's report

must have been put together by a random generator literally this explanation makes more sense than cnn's report at savage the dia and see oil trump the russians cambridge had because we've got the keywords just fill this. he says with whatever he also directly message or russian hacker he says he did nothing wrong and despite another claim that cambridge had ties to a russian oil company the campaign insists there were never any links to russia are you comfortable that the trunk campaign through their cameras analytic had a connection to wiki leaks. they did have a connection wiki leaks let me demonstrate if you are of average height and your birthday is in july you are closely tied to a sound see how easy it is let's do this again if you like snow and the

russians like snow you i lined with russia or if you want lots of money and oligarchs have lots of money you are susceptible to russian influence it's all nonsense but who cares it's about getting the keywords out there about confusing and confounding not explaining or investigating keywords people keywords the russians everywhere. the second son of the late libyan leader moammar gadhafi will run for president if elections are held this year saif al islam gadhafi spokesperson confirmed the plans after months of speculation sites father was driven from power and killed in two thousand and eleven despite holding no official position so if it was described as the de facto prime minister during his father's rule saif was later held captive

for six years before being released last year amid political unrest and we heard exclusively from his lawyer about the project the presidential bid. saif al islam has lots of supporters they are ordinary people there are even those who are against moammar gadhafi back in two thousand and eleven and now they support the views of his son the situation we have in libya now is the result of the destruction of all the state institutions not only the toppling of the regime forty countries stood against libya back then our country was bombarded and shelled all the military and civilian infrastructure was destroyed many civilians were killed and now saif al islam has put forward a comprehensive overview of the situation in libya that's a reform project which will bring calm back to libya there are many young patriots in libya now they are so enthusiastic they're not concerned about political affiliations the main thing they care about is a pay.