is running high in the russian city of camera where a blaze at the shopping mall has killed sixty four people including many children. are gathering at the headquarters of the regional government demanding justice for the victims. i ran upstairs. let me through the push me my daughter asked why no one even asked the prime meant to do something but he just . the russian president is in the siberian city to pay his respects to those killed in the deadly fire. and promised those responsible will face justice.

very welcome to our. own evil russia is mourning the victims of the deadly blaze in the siberian city of camera sixty four people including many children lost their lives in a huge fire that broke into a shopping entertainment complex on sunday president putin who is in the city says criminal negligence was to blame for the blaze well i'm running high in the city where people have gathered at the headquarters of the regional government there demanding answers and justice for the victims many more people are expected to rally today the crowd has been repeatedly chanting the word truth the region has declared three days of mourning. putin laid flowers at a makeshift memorial the shopping center he also visited survivors in a local hospital and said that the tragedy brings mixed emotions.

when you hear for the first time how many people have died their children died so you don't just want to cry if you want to scream. but after you hear what's happening here frankly if you're very different because. of more in the situation in cambridge i'm joined live in the program by murat there's the of one of the pieces there of the president speaking in perhaps a more somber. mood looking back at what occurred we also heard him and in a very very frustrated angry mood as well didn't we when with officials with with people who he feels are to blame for the tragedy that unfolded on sunday well putin who did it was very direct he said that when he was talking to people who had lost loved ones he said you know speaking to them they tell you things that make you

want to cry that are absolutely horrendous and then i'm talking to you he says to officials and you're telling me a completely different story. here you know here you have the the classic picture where they're presumably trying to protect themselves painting it will very differently but putin said. straight forward but those that are responsible for this those involved in this will be punished. you know who the biggest of them. actually. rescued when. you were. looking for was looking. for the. president the position that he's in. and that is that is what people they're demanding they're demanding accountability they're demanding communication because

they say there has been a complete breakdown the officials took their time with everything that they keeping people in the dark that the fire service was very slow to react and when they finally got there they sped while preparing you know the rescue operation itself was subpar to say the least this is what people are saying or near the had it is important as putin said all those responsible will be punished heads will roll but we've got to wait we've got to investigate we've got to look at what actually happened we can't jump to conclusions here and according to the brief the team was given the fire itself was deactivated it was either deactivated all malfunctioning and it had been so for more than a week since the ninety nevertheless security had a backup system or a backup system which all they have to do is press

a button and it would have worked it would have warn people that something was wrong they didn't press that for whatever reason whether they knew about this but whether you know the security personnel that are responsible for the said something else because there had been a breakdown in absolutely everything everything that could have been gone wrong went wrong the doors on the fire exits the doors in the cinema in the screen rooms themselves they had been locked they had been locked down reasoning behind them were is that just purely because they didn't want people coming in with tickets are without. tickets and coming into the room it seems an over the top way to do that to stop people coming in locking a group of people this was a cartoon so mainly children in a dark room well there you go there was supposed to be someone in the door this is how these things usually done there's someone in the door they check tickets and they sit there for the duration of the movie in this case they had better things to do obviously they log them all those people in there and they went out and you had

kids calling their parents begging them to come rescue them to come help them and they kept calling and calling and calling until the calls stopped and this is what you must understand about this protest as our colleagues that have said since there are people there but everybody who drives by past hogs they roll down their windows they shout messages and support this is a city on the edge there they're agonized they're absolutely you know devastated in ag wish this is a huge loss a tragedy the borders of a catastrophe and its sheer size and scope and earlier on i put together a report to get to know some of the victims a little better because names are names and lists and lists and numbers and numbers but when you know that the people there that died just like you and i. if the ads much more depth to this tragedy and i must warn viewers some of this report may

be distressing. for rural youngsters a visit to the big city is always an adventure the twelve year old classmates went to town and they went bowling ice skating to the cinema it would be their last adventure to leave. you. this. you know if you. didn't you would have. dozens and dozens dead but they aren't just numbers they all had names lives all the compensation in the world won't cover their family's loss especially given that so many of the victims were children masha was there with her grandmother and she you need turned ten last week and posted this photo in line

exactly a decade is all she got in this world both she and her grandmother perished. tiana an english teacher she was there with her daughter who survived that yana got out of the building before hearing that others was still trapped she went to help rescue who she could strangers but she never came back out you were the best teacher in the world right her former students you didn't deserve this we will all remember you stood down to it to you. this is what you did. little ratable pictured here with his mom and dad she wasn't with them but imagine her pain when she had to identify the bodies of

her child and husband or even surviving is easy. i some say he jumped others that his father threw him out of the window in a desperate effort to save his little boy before succumbing to the smoke him self we won't know until say weeks up from his coma a load his parents and little sister. there are too many to mention here but the point is made a list of names is one thing but it's only when you get to know them just a little that the depth of this tragedy really hits you. i want to take us now back to live pictures in camera. a father of three now deceased children is speaking let's listen to what this man has to say it's not the.

bar. and the fire was at the was that. killed a lot of people in that bar different place it's a big building. the investigation it's been through tracked. dragging it out. living it. literally the capital region would have a lot of capital beauties to address emergency. after . there were no helicopters. literally nothing there was nothing. maybe because they realized there was no use. in helicopters it all comes down to the way they try to extinguish the fire. to address the blaze.

so to say there were simply grounds. cinema halls and some people lost maybe we'll find more who will treat them and everything but the whole building was on fire. i was at the headquarters of the rescue operation a lot of people in the old building people who. suffered. through. most of the people. who were injured or suffered. because of the place they were coming from the cinema holes. they were trapped there. the fire was about one thousand square meters. i was coming to a city. on

a clock and i saw emergency. vehicles and the ambulances going back and forth but see the fire. was in full blast. i saw the bodies currently kept. well. they're trying to identify them with bodies like fragments saying there are. people still not identified. but as we have different figures about three hundred people are still not and then died knowing is showing. only showing their bodies.

after. the formation is pouring out. and the internet some say i saw that march of people others so i saw that. that many. but as far as we know this to me was for little the person who. voting for the. channel one to be these are the people. can we trust them. should we trust these leaders the figures they are giving about sixty four people is just well. claimed which might not have nothing. would live to know if the top is above one hundred fifty fifty so then all the authorities all the children should be axed the fact if immediately because that is

never been so direct testimony to the fact that they. would be forming the case in no way at all living here where not a well off. ordinary citizen said we would like to have a normal life. with . what are you talking about sixty four people there were far more than that. i'll betcha it will hurt. why do they stay in this.

game here. you know something to get at least some bit of information. here to get some answers. and i heard about the position that we all can get cleared to come to the mog. every other. place. where the bodies of people who've been treated after the accident that's the proposition we heard and i grieve that is necessary or we would gather to group of people to go there they saw just the very thing they wanted to show them. yes the figures match what they say but this is exactly what we are seeing this is the worst we have been voting for this kind of a scheme they are. let's get a group and. every place says go to the mogs and to your hospitals you ask

us to believe them but should we should we believe. that's how it's sometimes done in the current story. but sometimes people have been brainwashed instead of being given real information. ok i. just went on there but you can sense the clear clear frustration from a person who really getting a sense of the depth of the man's character i should reiterate he lost three children in the blaze he is not believing what he is being told he say's this situation is of course though is that nobody knows right now what the exact figures are what we can go with and i need to stress that these are the official figures that we know that sixty four people were killed in the inferno in

the mall but the person not father and other men like him demanding answers demanding more than what they are hearing from authorities but understandably grief . you know that you can only imagine what he has been going through the past twenty four hours and what his life's going to be like in in the coming months as well. we can actually cross live again to. city of camera for igor sit down off has been standing by to bring us up to to give us more of a sense of what's happening in this city sadness anger frustration and fear. it's a very tough day very core. oh yes you know the whole city is aching it is not exactly the smallest city but not the largest do so for many families here what this what happened it has affected them on a personal level this why all of these people we're getting reports of thousands

from the looks of it it looks like it looks like it is thousands of people have shown to this square to demand on says to demand justice those who couldn't make it their honking rolling down their windows yelling chance of support and the main reason why they are here and you heard really the man is that people think that the actual number of dead in the fire is being lowered by the local authorities the official figures sixty four people but they believe that as many as hundreds of people may have perished in that inferno down the russian investigative committee of course is looking into this and they've released the lists of both dead and missing and the local authorities of cool down everyone who thinks that there's somebody else who's not on the list to step forward to to give the names to us for the search to begin but many many people are disenchanted and they're of course

very frustrated they're devastated by the fact that this tragedy occurred in the first place because it could have been avoided if not the faulty if not the faulty fire prevention system and i mean they are asking questions how is that that there was no alarm how's that possible that sprinklers. did not work how's that possible that people had to break down fire escapes in the very paths that are supposed to lead people to safety in an emergency situation all of these questions are. in fact chance for the governor of the camera region to resign and the crowd cheered to those chants and. all of these people all of these people they are demanding justice and of course everyone's we've talked to people who survived the blaze and they're saying everyone's experience in different is different but some are saying that well in fact often people didn't know what to do and people security guards on

the ground in the shopping mall didn't really help have a listen. i ran upstairs cinema stuff didn't let me see through he pushed me my daughter asked me why no one was saving her i asked the fireman to do something but he just stared. around two third floor firemen stood there do nothing in front of the door my daughter saw me that she loved me and that she was suffocating upholder to get down on the floor and back her not to die the children are dear it isn't a matter of how many are dead now unless we change something hundreds of others could die no matter how long we stand here no matter how loud we shout no one will hear us. lattimer pull landed here early morning and he's laid flowers to the vigil outside the shopping

mall and he talked to some of the citizens to comfort in the moment of their loss he's promised that every question will be that every person responsible for the tragedy will be brought to justice but the investigative committee has so far detained the five people in connection with. the tragedy no charges have been pressed but they are questioning the owner of the shopping mall and the fire safety as well as the preliminary they've also rested one of the security guards they've detained one of the security guards is they believe that it was him who switched off the fire prevention system and therefore you didn't do their questioning. camera and we will be bringing you the latest throughout the day from this rally will be talking to people to get their mood to get their reaction and of course we're following the investigation is well.

done often live from camera thank you very much for that is also in the studio with me listening in to that we've been listening to people speaking throughout the day some of them have been directly affected by the tragedy we've been listening to other authorities i think we need to just stress here as well that this is a situation where a huge area. has been burned to the ground and as gruesome as it sounds there are charred remains of people people without id it's going to be a mom a task to get a final death toll for everybody who died here to let their family actually get the bodies home so that they can mourn but it's not as easy as just saying give us the figures because this is going to take quite a while to discover just how many people actually perished in what is one of the

biggest fires in the past one hundred years in russia who. is the father of three children who perished in this tragedy said. they don't believe local officials they say. the real death toll is being understated they say that you know this information is false and we shouldn't trust what authorities are telling us he said that you know often that is a problem in russia in our country that people are brainwashed or given false information and i did not try and tackle it head on this is what he said and i quote we are not going to hide and conceal anything he's aware that this is an issue and he's going to e.c.c. want to get the truth we don't want to hear about different levels and as the man said you know about brainwashing and being given false information often you have local officials who are trying to protect themselves from central authorities in

moscow from the prime minister from the president they will sometimes understate casualties they will and this state what happened the scope the horror of whatever happens whatever tragedy happens in order to protect themselves as putin said you know here i am talking to people who had lost loved ones and they tell you things that make you want to cry that are absolutely devastating and then when i talk to you via officials you tell me a completely different story a completely different story in which they're presumably trying to cover their own hides putin said that heads will roll that everybody responsible for this will be punished that every official who could have been involved with this whose actions could have led to this he's there their actions their activities will be evaluated and everybody responsible will be punished but as you said and as regular putin

said we can't jump to conclusions he made the promise that everybody will be punished who needs to be part of but it is early days yet the sheer size and scope of the rescuers at the site. their rescue is this still digging out digging up bodies presumably that the need of the roof had collapsed that isn't a huge structure this still trying to identify the bodies we don't know how many there are exactly the authorities are only releasing the body count that they've established the missing people that they've established locals there see if there are many more but we simply don't know and as experience tells me in particular because of you know work with downed jets passenger lines that are. full and bus crashes many you know many many tragedies and always you have

rumors of speculation about what clues the the truth behind them there's like i'd need people have a psychological need to want to understand straight away to justify something to paint a picture to happen it is very difficult for people to say especially when you've lost a loved one just gradually when you've got emotions of play when you've got a personal stake in something it's very difficult to say old daughter second you know and wait and wait for the official results of the investigation and wait for some more concrete data that the human mind works differently it needs to fill this void it needs to fill this gap that needs to vent frustration to vent anger to vent sadness unfortunately this is a human reaction and sitting here and talking about this is going to it isn't going to change any of it but this was this was horrible this was horrific given that so many of the casualties with children so many of those trapped in the doors had been locked they had looked the doors and the screen rooms i mean that is the easy

inexcusable as like me putin said you know head heads will roll for this this was negligent criminal negligence this was absolute carelessness and responsible. will be punished but it will happen incredibly quickly and all happened so fast that is of the this is one of the things with these they spread they go out of control and it isn't the fire that kills you it's more likely the smoke unless you can get out and that's something funny and it was incredibly hard to do in this in this place with all the now call to do this but i believe we have a time life timeline of how events on this summer if it day unfolded.

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beach new plymouth you see it. so it's a sort of what if. what can show you now are some drone pictures from this scene it it may help us understand the ferocity of the blaze the scale of the devastation the surrounding streets from here they're still blocked off and we can see clearly that the roof has collapsed look at the size about sixteen square meters sixteen hundred square meters of devastation on the fourth floor of going into the third of course and collapsing on the on the lower floors as well inside the building while there you go it's completely burned dodge we can see the emergency teams working there it

took a little bit of time for them to get in on sunday evening as the as they flames this smoke was just so bad it took some time for them to come in and we also discussed the situation with the civil engineering expert he is of the belief that camera of a blaze shows systematic problems with fire safety in shopping malls. doesn't match. most well read it was a problem he did building call much loved it was a problem with that material that they have used over there and for particularly the areas that. we need to have this repercussion system and a fire exit don't do that because kids are not operating like this is a systems well you could have regulation on the books but but it comes with the enforcement go through your lay should not come flying regulation this is where the disparity happens. where residents of cameras have organized the.