aspects of its offensive biological weapons program and in terms of its support for terrorism we have established that iraq has permitted al qaeda to operate within its territory but of course there was no al qaeda saddam hussein sworn enemy in iraq just as there was no nuclear program no biological weapons program and no chemical warfare program no v.x. nerve gas even the doubly of the soldiers down by the usa was no longer extend in iraq which means bolton may find it hard to persuade u.s. allies of the necessity to start new wars against north korea iran china and russia while the world waits for an arguably more muscular response from moscow for monday's tit for tat diplomat expulsions it may be amazing to some that bolton didn't use novacek w m d as an argument for war against iraq in twenty zero three the war that arguably his new boss poses they lie ok said there were weapons of mass destruction there was none and they knew there were none there were no weapons

of mass ok now of course today o.p.c. w. weapons of mass destruction inspectors are in england investigating whether w m d justifies a new war of sorts with russia joining me now is someone who's met trump's new national security advisor john bolton for this event as director of the u.s. institute for policy studies is in the u.s. capital washington d.c. for this thanks for coming on the show before we get to bolton and iran and north korea and china what role has john bolton had in sacking a previous boss of the o.p.c. w w m d we know that this was one of bolton's early. successes shall we say when he was at the united nations in two thousand and two. he was only there briefly and he was playing a major role as a leading state department official in charge ironically enough. disarmament affairs in that role he decided that this is in two thousand and two this is in the

run up to the u.s. british war against iraq and the then chief of the organization for the prevention of chemical weapons brazilian diplomat named jose stanley was going to be a potential problem why because it was danny was actually negotiating with the iraqi government with saddam hussein's government trying to push them to join the organization if they had agreed which they were a legit lee on the verge of doing that there were a lot of rumors at the time that the iraqis were prepared to join the organization and if they did they would have been subjected to incredibly intrusive inspections to determine that there were in fact no chemical weapons factories in the country now for washington who were trying to get public support to go to war under false claim that there were weapons of mass destruction specifically including chemical weapons that would be a disaster so bolton goes to stand his office and this was reported several years

later because danny describes him coming into the office and saying you've got twenty four hours to resign or there will be consequences and was then he said i'm not resigning i was just reappointed by one hundred forty five member states by the countries of this organization i'm not going anywhere so bolton went out and organized a campaign against him claiming that he wasn't a good manager or something like that never of course saying that this had everything to do with preventing iraq from joining the organization and having a non war solution to this crisis he orchestrated the ouster of boustany and just a few weeks later boustany was indeed voted out but i am majority of those hundred forty five countries that again set the stage for that illegal immoral war both hoping and even more exalted role arguably the trump designated new national. good advise it doesn't have that kind of power because that's kind of against the u.n.

but as you've written about i understand john ball doesn't believe the united nations exists exactly in the past i was actually in a debate with him back in one thousand nine hundred four and he said at that time there is no such thing as the united nations when the united states leads others will follow when we choose to leave we might do so when we don't it nothing will happen and he went on to say the remark that's now been quoted in a lot of the articles about his current new position which is a very powerful position where he said you could charge half the top ten floors of the united nations and it wouldn't make any difference because it doesn't do anything he has shown an absolute disdain for international law and in that context saying the u.n. doesn't matter international law doesn't matter all that matters is u.s. power u.s. might it's kind of trumps a version of america first on steroids but of course it was trump who surprised the world with this idea of negotiation with pyongyang

a recent pentagon simulation predicted non-nuclear conflict with. equated to a daily a daily death toll in south korea of twenty thousand you know that bolton is going to persuade the trump against his plan for george or rather than war war i don't know what he's going to persuade trying to do what i think is certainly possible is that he will persuade trump that any meeting with kim jong un be very brief and be essentially an announcement of surrender terms which i assume the north korean leader is not likely to accept at the moment and say this is what we're here to do you will surrender by this date or this will be our last meeting and then he will get up and walk out and keep in mind this is this position of national security advisor while it doesn't have any direct power in the sense that the national security adviser cannot call up the pentagon. in order troops out that person is

the first person and the last person to have the ear of the president and with a president like this one who we know well is known for listening to the last person who happened to be in the room that's very dangerous for someone this excrete this committed to war over diplomacy as the last person that donald trump hears every night before he leaves the white house he has argued for preemptive strikes but arguably if there is some has breath difference on on north korea iran mike flynn former national security advisor has been on this show talking about a war with iran and certainly trump has been talking about scrapping that deal what would a war with iran look like presumably both and then drop support let alone trade war something else on iran a war with iran is a disaster to even think about this is a country that is far larger far richer and far more powerful militarily and in every every other way then iraq at the time of the two thousand and three us

invasion and keep in mind what a disaster the iraq war has been the destruction of what was left of iraq after twelve years of crippling sanctions that had already devastated the population. sanctions in iran have been problematic for the iranian population but nothing close to what had happened in the years of sanctions in iraq iran is far stronger it would fight back with far more power and it is not isolated the way the us would like it to be so that the notion of a war with iran would very quickly become a regional war and it would devastate the entire middle east and have the danger of escalating even further on a global basis of all to the national security adviser designate has called the russia china iran north korea. all lying regimes said that russia's meddling of the us election was a true act of war that would china and russia come out on iran side against the

united states not even sure nato would even support the u.s. the support they would get would be from saudi arabia and from israel that intersection is already underway bringing together israeli and saudi officials along with other gulf monarchies leaders. and i think that becomes very dangerous for the middle east as a whole the palestinians among others would pay the extraordinarily high price but i don't think that we're talking about a situation where any of the countries that were signatories to the iran nuclear deal for instance would somehow come out against the united states militarily i don't and i think that's a good thing that would be a disaster that would escalate the war even further just finally i mean this talk here in mainstream media kicking russia or of the u.n. security council because it doesn't vote britain's way john bolton doesn't believe the united nations exists could the u.n. come to the rescue against all the dreams of john bolton i think one of the big

reasons that the u.s. did not go to war with iran in two thousand and seven was the the strength of the global protest movement the civil society level and the level of governmental opposition and the refusal of the united nations to sign on. all of those factors together made the price much higher for george bush to consider when he was thinking of going to war against iran so it prevented that although it did not prevent the initial war against iraq those things don't get forgotten so quickly the problem is john bolton doesn't care about any of that he doesn't care about public opinion about civil society certainly but governmental opinion no other government matters and certainly the united nations does not matter to this man who once called himself the ambassador to the united nations we invite john bolton to try to refute those claims for the better thank you very much thank you after the break political prisoners in the european union we get the take of the un's independent expert alfred desires on the long shadows caused by the spanish civil

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i. was. welcome back joining me now to go through some the week's news is freelance journalist and writer for the u.k.'s leading independent news site the canaries steve top all steve thanks for coming on and we thought very cool been shot of the kremlin did it we have to attack russia absolutely and goody this first peninsula what we have new zealand says it can't find russian spies to expel yes it's this is the way as wally of the russian situation if you like is open to new zealand has come out and said that well if we if we did have these undercover russian agents to expel within our midst of course we get rid of them but we can't find it the minute

there is amazing we're going to be happy with that response to expel everyone russian citizens that you and i. know of course but look i mean we all know there's a bigger agenda at play here and it's not being discussed but there's geopolitics rampantly going on behind the scenes and we always have to look behind the headlines i think and try and work out exactly why a narrative is being pushed and running same with the stories we're going to talk about today is the idea of known chomsky's manufacturing consent where the media is used as a propaganda all right well someone is coming to the rescue is the telegraph well to help us with what you're writing yeah there was a. big brothers yes b.b.c. journalists. teach children how to identify fight news of world wonderful now either person of interest in the story because my stepson school is being targeted that's the wrong use of the english language has been a sort of elected calling play to be part of the roll out of this b.b.c.

fake news unit where they're going to the thousand schools lead b.b.c. present says we're going in teaching children how to spot real news from fake news which is very interesting considering the b.b.c. trust found. guilty of peddling basically fake news and by so the whole jeremy corbyn sure available because the political editor of the believes let's blow that lead is that i mean it's the height of irony and also plays into the us idea that the b.b.c. is this this wonderful institution and someone like russia today is this bad state sponsored peddling propaganda or thorough tarion units which is which as we know is complete nonsense i mean i've been on r.t. lots and never once have i been told what i'm telling you to say that you know. no ok all right back in the real world of austerity we're just to remind viewers a recent bridge medical journal. piece of research had one hundred twenty thousand excess deaths since twenty ten because it was sturdy pulls it will need six point

three billion needed to close the gap in a sturdy we have a poll from hugo this is this is absolutely staggering and we should solve the problem in the words of the problem while i'm not surprised over the vote which is of the you so you cover asking whether benefit claimants should be allowed to vote the specific question was british citizens who receive more money from welfare benefits than they pay in taxes should be allowed to vote should not be allowed to vote. well that's all of the austerity broom because you wouldn't have poor people voting a tool of course exactly. perfect perfect for the conservatives what do you think of the very very important polling organization we rang them up and said is it fake actually and they said lord no. it's staggering but it plays into the broader agenda at the moment in the lives of the people on. this is happening is this demonize ation of just people on welfare or somehow being subhuman and not

deserving i mean the un committee on the rights of persons with disabilities last year accuse the u.k. government of creating a society where people are viewed as parasites this is their words not mine parasites living off the money of taxpayers and they said these kind of attitudes that the government is fostering could lead to quote euthanasia and killings of disabled people and this is the u.n. and they've recognised that this sort of going propaganda and negative stereotyping is playing into a very dangerous culture and i think there's a bigger issue apply and it is this disenfranchising but it's it's almost twenty first century eugenics where we're seeing these people marginalized pushed to the fringes of society almost to try and get rid of them like they don't exist last week as well about the notion of psychopathic cultures which the author will black writes about where the psychopathic also should think individual has an effect on

the whole structures around him and in some respects i alkies what we're seeing from this government is almost pathological behavior in its attitude towards disabled people towards homeless people and date rooted and it is really to go into in depth with you today there's a deep rooted ideology here in the deep rooted gender of pushing people to the margins of society because ultimately well is that not productive they're not good for capital in the grand scheme of things for a guy and that's why i decided to use the useless eaters analogy because i'm not saying that being productive and beneficial to the cause which is capitalist society we live in thank you. well while the e.u. considers us collate against russia some are questioning these commitment to democracy itself this week in what arguably sounds like a scene from the spanish civil war german authorities detained kathlyn leader called priest a boy comes after his meeting with renowned jurist the u.n. independent expert only promotion of

a democratic and equitable international order professor alfred does a as he joins me now from geneva in switzerland alfred thanks so much for coming on the show wouldn't call them or tell you in the past few days before his arrest by german authorities that we were discussing mediation you may recall that twitchell and offered mediation back in august september two thousand and seventeen they tried it central government didn't want to i am myself i offered myself as a mediator and no one has picked up on it i have written to. written to the secretary general think that this is the classical case in which international mediation would be useful what did you tell you because you said europe is losing its right to belittle acts or that they don't want to get involved the internal affairs of member states but they don't get involved in the internal affairs of poland and of hungary and of slovakia and cetera so that argument

doesn't hold any water especially when you have grave violations of article two of the treaty of london of our list button i mean the treaty of the european union which i curse the european union on democracy and human rights and would be a political prisoner. well he's not a political prisoner yet to me is the question now whether he will be delivered to spain for trial of we have political prisoners in spain i mean doherty to rule and got him i forgot their lunch some of the others who have been detained there are quite a few who have been detained and again released on bail but in any event it is a disgrace that democratic leaders who have exercised peacefully and that's important too to indicate they have never incited to violence quite the contrary

they have been very peaceful in their actions that spain has criminalized the exercise of democracy criminalize the exercise of freedom of expression and the exercise of the most fundamental vote of a referendum we expect more from brussels but what is at stake here really is the credibility of the system the credibility of the european commission the credibility of the r.p.m. parliament and of course. democracy on the rule of law in spain. scottish police have issued a warrant for a clipper sunday another catalan minister too much to say is a scottish national party politician that you cannot have police scotland doing the political work of the fascists in the spanish government you realize that there is a prehistory to this and that you realize that the precedent of the generally

talked of catalonia companies in the one nine hundred thirty s. was delivered to frank or spain and it was actually executed. that was back in one thousand forty i mean this is so shocking and i don't want to see a read gresham of this nature back to the one nine hundred forty s. obviously we're not getting much information about this in our mainstream media or arguably i know you have often talked about this information and you've just returned from the country with the largest oil resources in the world venezuela howie you sanctions helping to curb what we're told is a humanitarian crisis now in venezuela or they're not curbing their humanitarian crisis or causing it i mean the humanitarian crisis as a treadmill stickney cause is a dangerous and lose use of words i mean i know humanitarian crisis and.

africa in asia obviously in gaza obviously in the palace staying by territories in yemen in syria but certainly not in then as well there is scar city but this car city of medicines and the scars to deal of food is to a large extent caused by the economic war that is not new law is not just the sanctions since obama two thousand and fifteen i mean there's been an economic war against venezuela since one thousand nine hundred ninety nine since javits came to power you remember the idea was to get rid of him through a coup d'etat two thousand and two that didn't work and the economic war continued this is reminiscent of one thousand nine hundred seventy nine hundred seventy when salvador allende gets elected president of chile and richard nixon tells kissinger that he will not tolerate

a no turning to economic model. to take hold in latin america and that he will make the chilean economy scream and that's what they did for three years and when they did didn't work and they didn't bring down and then there was that could it and i ended up killed now. what's happening with venezuela is that all of these measures which have significantly exacerbated the situation of car city of food and medicine in and then it's where. what has happened is that the opposition is actually asking for more sanctions against the government of venezuela quite the contrary of what the united nations wants to achieve meaning dialogue ok now kind of going to lead us i mean you are the in you u.n.

independent expert on the promotion of democratic and equitable international order the white house chief of staff right now is john kerry he's on the record. for saying a military option must be on the table now the international criminal court has got involved for two bensouda announcing a preliminary investigation into presumably human rights crimes by the material government what are we seeing in terms of regime change we're seeing here international modeling and what i find is that. bringing. a case. against model before the i.c.c. . is simply not serious it is surrealistic i mean there are fifty other heads of state that would be better candidates to be before the i.c.c. than mr my little but i would like to say the i.c.c. does have a task here because sanctions kill sanctions are deliberate when sac.

cross that. children because of my love trish when they cross the death of persians because there is no insulin on there is no anti-cancer medicine or there is not anti. aids medicine and that is deliberate well that is a crime against humanity but the i don't see it is going to have an article seven of the i.c.c. statute but obviously the i.c.c. is going to investigate the european union and the united states and nato governments that are enforcing the sanctions of course it can't the question is who is going to bring that case to what course you can do it but there must be will on the part of the prosecutor to take it up what we want it's international solidarity what we want is to help they then as well and people and we can help them by making sure that the sanctions are even mediately lifted and the economic war ends for us

are out for design thank you that's it for the show and for this season we'll be playing a favorite episodes of this season until we get back on wednesday the eleventh of april sixteen years to the day old and american backed coup attempt against the democratically elected government to go chop as a venezuelan to get in touch with us over the break facebook twitter and instagram so you see. what politicians do use them to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president i'm sure. somebody wanted. to go and. see what the three of them or people. interested in the.

how does it feel to be a share of the greatest job in the world it's as close to being a king as any job there is what business model helps to run a prison now we just do or don't like nobody you know visitation i don't know what comes in to them or we don't have to serve them anymore is cost effective that's what they want to do that at the moment they don't give a damn if you do the chores are not actually paying enough to put it back into the louisiana incarceration rate is twice as high as the u.s.n. breach what she could is behind such success. there's an issue probably the only issue the unites many of the most powerful individuals surrounding donald trump and the issue is hostility directed at the ranch there is every reason to believe these same people will translate their hostility into action even military action the war cabinet is mobilizing the most

expensive fish in the world each one selling for tens of thousands of euros it continues to grow its entire life if it was thirty years old you might have a two ton fish out there and yet they don't get that big today because we're way too good at catching. it's only when themself a much larger mission was once there that was much more widely distributed we have politicians that are in office for a few years they have to get reelected everything is very very short term our system is not suited and is not geared for the long term survival and that's why we have the catastrophes. it's a national day of mourning in russia as crowds across the country commemorate the

victims of sunday shopping center fire in the siberian city of connecticut sixty four people lost their lives including. when the u.k. tells us that they have proof that they know russia was a response.