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directors. for more on those stories go to our t.v. dot com up next so if you go ask afghanistan's former intelligence chief about the ongoing fight with the taliban. welcome to. shevardnadze afghanistan is still struggling to contain their resurgent taliban eighteen years after nato troops went into the country to get rid of the extremist group can cripple manage and what can the west do to help well i asked former chief of afghan national intelligence. is the are going or abuse phones in your relentless taliban attacks the leadership in kabul really for sentiment. repeating ghoul's for director. over and over again in the decades our war ended by
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negotiating with a bitter enemy the taliban's foreign backers then cut the support for the extremists a little while before for many more years until one side bled into submission. acts intelligence chief of afghanistan. welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us mr so at the latest international conference on afghanistan has been held in neighboring was back to stand with more than twenty countries taken part time i wasn't there that make any sense to hold meetings like that without one side of the conflict present i think it doesn't make a lot of sense and the taliban were not there they should be treated like a terrorist group the terrorist group should not be invited to an international event the. conference was to endorse support the position of the afghan government in regards to the peace process it was not. to
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equate the democratic process with a terrorist group so the taliban is not is not ready get it it's a pleasure so they've got to some peace process is being discussed at several platforms to kabul process conference down the conference and. has offered to host peace talks with the taliban will even more events like this help to bring the taliban to negotiating table does the increasing number of international conferences here downplay the significance of the talks themselves. well you are very right their approach has been for documented this fragmentation is not because of afghanistan it this fragmentation is is due to the growing mishandle standing between wave. players in the world the stage because there was there hasn't been cohesion on the side of the international community and to be harnessed the very terminology international community has lost it is.
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unified to meaning and definition so therefore various counties have tried to show they can do something for this globe for this part of the world there are far there has been process a stumble process and now tosh process or a conference at their last sometimes back moscow process but what distinguishes. the conference from the rest is participation of russia the highest level foreign minister lavrov was the e.u. . foreign chief gorani was was there and that mic gives it a new dimension and we are very pleased that the countries of the region particularly our near neighbors who voided to send. to the geishas to kabul process
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will come to task and conference present ghani offer of peace talks at the taliban last month but the taliban called for direct talks with washington instead of kabul if this to go take place to trust americans with afghanistan's future. well we understand why the. taliban want to negotiate directly with foreign countries because they want to lead to to my eyes their claim . that they are not a terrorist group they own afghanistan and i'm very glad. foreign friends are refusing to give them that access and that chance because if they ever i get it to speak to the taliban directly that will downgrade the position of afghan government pass a legitimate state the sole representative of afghanistan and the world
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stage and it will also set of a very bad three said and for four other conflicts cases. mentioned earlier the world has already the has. black holes and it has a structure and their family county negotiates with them on a state actor involved in terror activities directly. the unintended consequences will be that damaging the relative the relative peace and stability that is there are made to along. it will also boost the morale of all those illegitimate terrorists and insurgents groups who want to undermine. constitutional law out of the not times in afghanistan but where so that's not be a good thing to do here they opposed to making
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a deal with the taliban for a long time they want them defeated and step but i mean how many more errors will that take if a deal stops bloodshed isn't it worth making. you are absolutely right we are we are suffering there is no doubt our people are suffering the economic development slowdown afghan civilians. are facing the stress and depression and life so there is a thirst for peace and we are ready to pay a price to our chief peace about who we are not going to sacrifice our dignity and honor to achieve it so therefore they packages out and that is the ball is in the court of the taliban pakistanis who are supporting terrorism in our region and they can conference clearly showed that the position of afghanistan has
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legitimacy both domestic and international and if the taliban reject to engage in peace process and if there backer that the pakistanis do not convince them or put pressure on them to engage in the peace process both the taliban and the pakistanis will face further isolation the continuity of the of the fighting and war no doubt is is. this costly for us from multiple dimensions and multiple aspects but this situation. is not going to ensure a bright future part of the pakistanis are far the taliban for the taliban either so our hope is that we do a recalculation and we revisit the overall policies which has kept our region fragmented divide it in gauged in proxy conflict and policies of manipal
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ation for so many years for so many decades we should learn from from the from other corners of the world where economic cooperation. regional cooperation has risk oot the nations from state to office this depression and backwater that misunderstanding and they have braced a better future so why don't we why don't we take ourselves out of the. nineteen and twentieth century politics member race they need to live with the new realities so the taliban has to disarm integrate into afghan society that's what you're saying and ok maybe there are and their arms and guns can be taken away but what about their ideology they are not like a regular armed or so insurgency they want to impose a lifestyle on the country how can you make them give that up. well the issue is
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not the taliban guns are the taliban ideology the issue is to taking one the taliban enjoy safe haven and pakistan so when we put pressure on the taliban fighters their leaders are our way they are not on their pressure they continue to plan. operations provide logistics from beyond beyond our borders so that's a matter of concern and the second thing which. is the taliban is a dogmatic approach on policies if they i agree to be come part of a pool or a list exercise. they will melt down the she attracted from this and pressure off a pool or a list excess this group will make them eleventh and very short a span of time that is why both the pakistanis and the taliban and are stunned that
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if they do not get some hard come sessions which will ensure. ensure their survival as a militant group they will not engage into any peace process so we are not afraid of taliban becoming part of the society because the afghan society as a whole will reject them democratically and the biggest enemy off half of the taliban is not necessarily the nato guns or our political rejection of the taliban the biggest enemy of the taliban is democracy itself and therefore they will do everything in their power to either undermine it or keep it a taliban ghetto within a democratic process and within a democratic a space so they come survive. president gandhi said that the taliban could be recognized as a political party and welcomed into the political process as part of any potential
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peace deal why would the taliban need that i mean they are doing well on frontline they are a warrior movement so they really need to sit in parliament. well i do not necessarily argue with the notion that they are doing where they are they are they're living in hell there is no education and they counter oh there is no a state system it is all rule of political but the. networks it's some people say it's a medieval rule at least in the medieval times if we have nothing there was poetry . or something but in the talabani areas except except terror except economy based on poppy trafficking except torture of the dissidents except a silent population like a graveyard i don't think we should call that they are doing well no they're not
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doing well it's it's life like in him. i spoke to chief executive of afghanistan. and he told me that the taliban cannot win the war by military means yet they are now threatening seventy percent of the country's territory and they're having success after success militarily at least as it were right to be so sure they won't win well they are doing they are doing a spectacular urban attacks no doubt because the co so many civilians in these. car bombs are suicide attacks and they dominate the news and then they cause pain but that does not military victory deaths that's terrorism the fact that they have not been able to create a quote unquote come trold zones for themselves inside afghanistan so they
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want to bring the pain to the cities to show the exist in the scene to show they are and. to. content amongst the minds of the civilian population these are the government saying you our government cannot protect you but far the talos. to be able to undo their chief moments of the last sixteen years on over. time really that's about a wildfire. all right mr sal i would take a short break right now and where we're bad will continue talking to. a former head of afghan intelligence about what needs to be done to end the war in afghanistan stay with us.
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and we're back with former spy chief of afghanistan a role talking about the international aspects of afghan war mr salah why is it that the afghan army trained and equipped by the best militaries in the world having a hard time destroying the taliban the afghan army we are talking about is not sixteen years old that some meth americans got busy on a stack in and there are a work of building security in this to two shows for afghanistan was abandoned. for another six eighty years in that mean time however they never acknowledged that we are totally busy with iraq so actually they. robust to work to strengthen our forces started in late two thousand in late two thousand and nine
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and from two thousand and three to two thousand and ten almost we were we were. brushed under the under the carpet so and that is the period when the taliban reemerge if an insurgent are terrorist group enjoys foreign sanctuary no matter how much military pressure you put on them they will be in one way or another to really hibernate themselves and come back and it will be like cutting the grass and not taking the roots out so the root saw and the pakistani matter are religious and for us that actor which continuously produce these terrorists and send them send them to us it is in the
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interest of russia and the countries in central asia almost to to forget their american agenda here and also join forces with us to defeat this phenomena if afghanistan got for a forbidden is dominated by this. district clerical movement called taliban with the roots and. my process and pakistan's karachi law horror and push our their next step us us did in the ninety's would be to export their proton ideology to central asia and the us directly to return russia so i think we should. not the new narrative which suits short term interests were just to say america is failing here know if this thing doesn't go well we will all fail and we should not be happy to fail
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collectively so you're saying that pakistani intelligence provide support for the taliban what exactly can be done to make pakistan cut their ties to them. i think the pakistanis have. you know a set of interests. which they believe they cannot achieve those goals through engaging the state to a state dialogue so they find a proxy battles backing radical terrorist groups as part of their interest there is a belief in pakistan that the country has to deterrence one deterrence is a nuclear bomb on the other that says radical groups which are expendable and pakistan uses these groups to promote its centrist and expand its influence and a. bizarre way and the region so when we are saying that what it
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takes to what it takes to convents the pakistanis to stop this it means we want to do we want to undo at least fifty years of very solid time a strict way of thinking on contact and pakistan. support for radical groups from pakistan the stuff that not after nine eleven but it started before the seventy's pakistan was used to counter the influence of the soviet union just tell me is pakistan in control of the taliban or is it just supporting them with bases and materials can islam about really tell the taliban what to do absolutely we are if we look at the structure of the taliban we are talking about a group with the latter structure they expend about taliban who get killed like flies they are they are there nary fighters who are you know being used as
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expendable lambs the metal level taliban these are the commanders who also get killed wounded. the taliban managed to replace them and there is the strategic level this thirty sheik level is not suffering at all they are not under pressure they are in karachi they are in lahore they are in push our they are in the basements of pakistani pakistani army so their strategic mind of the taliban is not afghan best the brain of the taliban is actually g.h.q. rollup indeed the pakistan army. forces they trained and sent to afghanistan they are just acting like a demolishing force they are not in control so the conferences therefore are very important to get it out realize ation that actual peace comes when we recognize the reality that they actually leadership of the taliban is the
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pakistan army and if we cannot we cannot sort the problem adapt level the regardless of how much we peel off the taliban the problem will continue so was the point for pakistan to have a never ending war on its border wide support the conflict won't be more profitable to have a peaceful afghanistan as a neighbor exactly you know exactly that is what we are advocating that's what we are lobbying that's the logic we use we say let us try a little steps to state to state relationship and see if you cannot achieve you a legitimate. interest and if you cannot overcome your anxieties through promoting bilateral relationship then you may resort to other means but you have not to deny that type of a relationship for us for
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a very long time but you know the the under view there and the callender belief in pakistan. as afghanistan is a weakest it it's it's a county which is susceptible to domination to manipulation and nato is temporary it's not a constant it's a valuable it is have today i am it will go out and we asked the most populous neighbor of afghanistan can read dominated so what dr spock istomin policy towards us is she to get he arab games and she. you know stubbornness and. frankly being a stack and twentieth nineteenth century way off thinking politics it is far far away from civility. civilized whom i'm human
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relationship if they do practice civilized human relationship i'm not sure there is anything in afghanistan to dictate as hurt pakistanis or be against them but they've c.s. week this c.s. as i said well notable easy to dominate so therefore they continue to pursue these these odd policies former afghan president hamid karzai told me that pakistan supports insurgents in afghanistan because kabul is friendly with delhi so guy sent just a proxy battlefield for the rivalry between india and pakistan how does that afghan war influence it. well i do not necessarily go the logic of farmer president when it comes to comes to the taliban if you study the present former president karzai policies to the whole scenario he never had a consistent policy he was fluctuating even every month in regards to the situation
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and we think he is spoiled some of the best opportunities we have in this county to consulate state unify the nation and defeat defeat terrorism the only difference is that india is backing the afghan a state and india is openly supporting afghanistan and economic development and it's providing all of the legitimate assistance stuff security forces. india is not into put ovide ing aid for any non a state actor in my county so we should not say pakistanis are out of there because india is here pakistan was here when india was not here so we are also saying to the pakistanis if you want to reach parity and gain parity with india play according to this get up to india is investing in education you can do the same
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india is investing in our security forces you can do the same india is investing in today and you can do the same you know pakistan is like a very angry bully and a city to come out come pete with a talented boy of the same street so therefore their solution far far far their feeling often for your it is to punch everyone rising that's not that's not a good way to behave mr salih thank you very much for this interview we were talking to. former head of afghan intelligence about. situation in afghanistan and whether it's going to improve any time soon that's it for this edition of so think i'll see you next time.
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you understand. it's just the two charts overlay them one is the u.s. dollar one is the big prize as the u.s. dollar has moments of strength in the otherwise long multi decade bear market to oblivion you see a pressure on big boy as the dollar were soon just bear market and its new all time lows on the dollar index below seventy you'll see it going hitting new all time highs but the dollar is the devil's currency the dollar is the currency that supports the establishment that supports the charlatans and you know it does have a strong days but the trend is desire a. global warming sell you on the idea that dropping bombs brings pins to the chicken hawks forcing you to fight the
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a lot of quite another term to the loss of grief and rage over the camera tragedy we sacrificed over four dozen children to double agents and corruption to doubt the largest expulsion of russian diplomats from the west and the spread of a major military confrontation over syria and what ima put in its next term is off to a rocky start what is it likely to bring well to discuss that i'm now joined by you beginning mentioned a prominent political consultant here in russia as i mentioned it's good to talk to i thank you very much for your time thank you now our input owns long stay in power russia has experience and number of large scale tragedies some of them run to manage so well for example the course the disaster it was general perceived as a communication failure on put inside that there was just one tragedy which was used as a starting point point for a major administrative reforms i wonder how do you think the camera tragedy is going to be remembered is it likely to prompt any policy changes there is no.
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specific on sequences which could be resumed after this tragedy. and to seem to just stick communication stuff these should be was shown to some politician in the local and regional level like the governor of a region for example was not very successful. i guess this kind of freaked him bleed. or. external only me is not very effective because that's a real drag to do i really want to pursue that angle of crisis communication a little bit later but let me ask you one question about which and specifically because i think the most difficult thing about this particular tragedy to process is that it was totally man made and putting himself said that this children died not because of terrorist attack not because of the gas explosion but because of.
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