russia says special was good walls also be sure. to say the review biagi team's latest edition of a go at the big. book. alone of welcome to world a part of the british authorities explicitly side the poisoning of the former half as b agent alexander litvinenko in london as the circumstantial evidence in this case the russians did it before they will do that that's the essence of the u.k. allegations against russia but doesn't london itself have capability intent and

motive for this kind of national character assassination well to discuss that i'm now joined by the father of alexander litvinenko volto that. this mystery is being think you very much for a time you for coming to our program the only view this is going to be if you break the difficult conversation probably so i'm sorry i apologize in advance if some of my questions might seem insensitive as far as i know treasonous in the days of your son with him at the hospital he basically died in your hands that i was opposed to in your arms and that right after that you publicly blamed russia for his death for the who or what made you change your opinion on this issue. i kept on i was in this situation i kept thinking again and again and eventually i came to a conclusion you know nothing can change my opinion. putin would never do

anything like that the put it right was and i'm sorry for interrupting and with the go bye bye so we know that your son or she would blame accused putting up with there were some serious accusations he said that putting was behind the russian apartment bombings that behind the nine eleven attacks in the united states these are serious accusations why do you think that russian intelligence services you or maybe politicians could not have. done something like that. you know perhaps some in the russian leadership would want to do any such thing but we have one person in charge of everything and that's the way it has always been and it's the same these days the president is on top of everything and i can see he is a decent person at the globe and he doesn't do such nasty things just get so i read all those dia's. and he's smart he's

a smart guy he would never do something so who is xander and he was just a regular agent he loved his work he was almost fighting criminals. primary job he was going after criminals not your own watching the you know well input is i guess he was a trader. he was not a traitor alexander you know was never a traitor and he could not be a traitor and putin sites will actually put a new king personally. to put his office a couple times at least that's what he told me yourself ago what i know from him i've heard about it more and i don't know whether it's true or not maybe it was just his intentions even though i doubt it but it's a very simple go to the well let's not talk about putting but some of those your son's case but thank you because our british many of our british colleagues say.

that need to be doubted whether you trust quitting are not whether you trust the british authorities there is a chemical trays that leads through a little boy to the airport yeah but now and then back to moscow the age of egypt or just material yeah i heard about that term to libya continue through you know it's not like it was something that one person did it was a group of people and not just three people dozens of people involved there were traces on the airplane they were traces. this stupid they say you go there to poison. there would be traces if they were after it does no but if they sent somebody with. one person. alone immediately first they just said something and then they said it was dahlia and then they said it was polonium polonium they found it after

he died thirty minutes after he died they started saying that it was polonium two plus so soon and you know doctors are so stupid and they they were figured out what they should treat him for i know i'm a doctor myself i know first you get the diagnosis ride and then you go for treatment your opinion about the cause of death of your son is different from what his widow might or in a says she still public and i think sincerely it uses the rest. as a mission. while marina remains in the u.k. she depends she's controlled by the intelligence services in trochu of this case i could have stayed there as well but i realized that i had to leave as soon as i could because i would never survive there at the new good. for a couple years you know and when i fled. to russia i told him you have to

hide me if you can hide me i would never go back yes unless the release. of i know that you personally think that there are his for my friend. is connected to his death he's a cia. character general is a cia guy. my son was his motive why are you so sure that it was him don't wish to know too don't you put up with i think he would have left just like i did he was as smart as. dumb. as long as you're immune to beat into you'll live to go as soon as you rebel. you get killed this is what happened to berezovsky this is what happened to this lady who said that. the wife she had cancer why don't you.

sit in have cancer. young woman they just killed her but only because she knew too much and she spoke too much and when she was saying that they told me she was a drug addict they say she had cancer they lie all the time but much it's obvious that there are a lot of russians in the u.k. still have an axe to grind with a new russian who didn't. just look at the exam they're all they're all under control exactly oh depend on the british authorities. they're all on the payroll what them did is an interesting coincidence in this case theresa may mean that when she was home secretary at a new deal she classified. the one year old investigation materialists and she said there was. matter of national security you're

a family member. sure that was the right thing to do and i watched you because truly reveal all this information. it's not just the national security field or it's basically cia that's involved brits and the americans they're very close and. he's really intelligence services as well because alexander went to israel then to italy and then he went to london and then he was killed soon after that there was the first attempt in a tube or maybe it was the beginning of the poisoning but on the first he felt there is sick she will be purged if this was they would have diagnosed that straight away i'm a doctor myself i know about these things you know or i'd be seen you're right but it does give the british authorities say that it is such an unusual poison so

nobody could even think that somebody would use it but what about let's go back here to bust on and the reason they say this was born in me is because they want to blame it all on russia that's what they did. i don't know they didn't show me any documents nothing. didn't tell me something that i would like to ask you as a family member you have you should have access to that and no access whatsoever have you tried to maybe take it to court it would go to some british court and it would cost for access to these documents as a father as a victim. you know when i was there w. bush nobody would let me have any axes you know they would just kick me out i. mentioned the fact that there are a lot of former russian citizens in the u.k. they had a good relationship with the right so i talked to some of those people. i can give

you their names but what i don't want to set. about it is i ne up what did you talk about with them. some of them blamed in the first and then they told me openly that this was mafia meaning there is all ski and the gold for. all those people but don't go and so people who told me about that they could not accuse cie openly just because the cia's everywhere and these people they don't want to get killed so it was easier for them to see. even though there is off ski himself controlled by the cia. used the specialists that i knew in their mean you to go but maybe in the u.k. think that the british authorities did not really want this tension in the release in their relations with russia so after. the death there were no serious diplomatic

push. to finally come up with much of their fed why do you think they're taking these threats right now. you know they were looking to find something on put back then as soon as he gave his speech in munich and they started trying all sorts of nasty things against putin it. and they will just watch english when oh those things happen i remember how goldfarb i mean and there was also ahmed but i don't want to talk about him. but i don't want to talk about him because as soon it's he speaks out you know he wants to go back to. they would kill him straight away they're hostages dear they're all hostages of the u.s. government which seeks global domination by the. mr libby and karl let's go back to

our previous question after death and that was a very public case on a bill on the older newspapers wrote about it but there were no serious measures after that no expulsion of diplomats no financial sanctions nothing was done by now and even though we still don't know what actually happened to this great palls which there are serious measures that are being taken you personally how do you explain this absence of serious measures back then so do you and the steps that the government is taking now. because of the stories about what is a british services do you know what they tried to do something against russia but what will they only can expel our diplomats but actually they are at risk here dare afraid of russia well if you're afraid of russia. we don't want anything we're not imposing anything with you you know you. put all those new weapons and it's just

because we don't want anybody to make jukes about us well we have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few moments stay tuned. and there are some was so much at all of them mama. i don't mind little bit of that if someone you. know read

a little frisky you took another critical look i love what if they are going to be chilcote you know down the road you but you're welcome but the soup. tureen yanukovych would think he's going to get so for us from. the question as to yes but oh yes the chest but. here for everyone that is for you. but some. locals was telling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the chicken hawks forcing you to fight the battles going. to socks for the tell you could not be gossip and public but most important news today. off the bad guys and tell me

you are not cool enough and let's fight their father. all the hawks that we inaudible on walking. welcome back to worlds apart with walter lippmann the father of the poison for my office be agent alexander litvinenko but there is a french nor spotted near me at the sub or the latest news is that sure the number . is getting you is clear better and it's a miraculous recovery because the british media kept saying that. they had no chance to survive nine years but now we're learning that she's conscious but if

she's eating if she can talk is it because the health care in the u.k. so wonderful rid. of them was just because the guy who poisoned them is not standing next to them so they may survive you know what alexander. the guy who poisoned him but standing next to him at the hospital so i would see he survived he had three poisonings of the first time he was taken to hospital and they thought he ate something or i don't know it was dark i don't know if it was doctors just somebody who visited him in hospital and boys and him further with such a good hour. with the must speak to your son's death was very public and the picture of me the photographer at the hospital with his shaved head the end he looked very tired it was a very emotional fixture and it was just everywhere but in this current case in the

script right case nobody has seen the victims ever says the suspected poisoning do you have any theories as to why the doors were open for visitors back then anybody could take a picture of him whereas now there is such secrecy emerging from below. don't give them that every list searcher you know when alexander was poisoned to go it's a lake and this was fake because that. something they wanted to show to the whole world how cruel russia is how brutal russia again how russia offs its enemies. today. but back then when they realized. that they were in trouble they decided to change it around a little bit so this time they took a different approach so this time they don't put things on display they just keep it secret or they're just waiting to see how russia responds will

little. if this were rush's and they would pursue this track. on and on but scotland yard did not look for the perpetrator they were covering up their tracks what they did with xander is they covered up their tricks and know they're reluctant to reveal those things because they know that again they will have to cover up their trucks but i like to argue with you a little bit and you may be here because they realized that russians are smart and russian scientists would be able to establish what this substance was but if we accept that theory which is very popular in russia that it was all coordinated in any seeded by the british yes but here they are scared they're scared david they're afraid that russia would find out who did that and personal i think it was ukraine

i did because ukraine once russia to clash with the rest of the world. but if the british knew that russia had nothing to do with that then. you this. by recovering yours is not going to work for them because right now you like it doesn't really make sense because the first that they said they was the deadly agent and nobody would ever recover from that but now we know that this young lady is actually recovering and so that's not in their interest. it's not in their interest if sergei script survives the girl she does. you know anything screwball knows a lot. don't lie but they're still now that i mean it's a big question where they actually boys and maybe choke because we're told that it's a very powerful voice and it doesn't look right that somebody is able to recover from it so much later you know they say there is a place thirteen kilometers away from the spot where they were found where they

manufacture these newer agents and manufacture and to do. it over and over but russia was done with him a long time ago russia let him go a long time ago and then all of a sudden they blame russia for poisoning kim but it's a i see it the supporting me me it was more than is russia still. has no access. to. united even though they're both russian citizens it's from what i understand. i think the still have relatives and all those relatives are in russia the media from your own experience. british doctors do they respect their patients' rights like visitation rights dealers. doctors just do their job but there's always somebody in the back controlling them. i don't know.

my six macbook we don't know we don't know who is in charge of all this operation maybe. it's just some people who are cooking up for the rest of the world i know that all those nerve agents. we used to have those during the soviet time but then we abandoned these program and. all those chemical weapons we have other weapons we don't need chemical weapons just didn't use. you. in any case if the soviet union by the was developing the such substances in order to determine where this substance came from we need access to some biological materials water i see and russia still has no such axis pretty far up so i move but if i go what do you think. will this axis be

ground to look at that or do you think the u.k. does not want to investigate this case and or should know just earlier on they'll just keep hiding all those things deeper and deeper and deeper into. what the british are thinking about is how to turn this whole situation against russia where they realized by now that the themselves into a mess with the recent me should be a period i don't know maybe they. arranged this whole thing on purpose before the presidential election in russia and then this whole thing blew up in the political issue and i think sure they were hopeful that but they were a little you know when the examiner got they thought they would get treat of putin . but i want to compare these two cases again because the litvinenko. there was the sense and logic in the chain of events that meeting at

the hotel the polonium in the teacup thank you felt worse he was taken to the hospital near the dummy you know that's not how it started when you said there was some preliminary poising and some attempt to legitimize too much of this government . you know it's going to get there when they started this whole thing there was this italian guy's carmelo and they brought him in they brought him in but don't go to denials of those things and later when this whole thing started they. started talking about the lugovoy. they started talking about the don't and. and then they started developing. this theory of what it was but you know what it first if those three guys did it first but then. there would be more three is more than

one listen. it's possible for one person to cover his tracks when he poisoned but it was a group it was a group of look in the us you look at those trees is there was a person. troy leaving alone there was polonium on the other xander and there was polonium all along their truck. whatever they were lugovoy in those other people to stay on the plane. one person would never leave such a trace they left traces that i knew at the restaurant. in other words so they wouldn't done it themselves but i'm not even asking about. you know how much polonium they spent it was worth thirty eight million dollars

thirty million dollars to poison some guy little in the end thirty eight million dollars that's a great hit the big question this is actually similar to the. theory because if we believe that the but what is it about the navy chilcot would have cost several million. dollars as well because that's not a cheap program. all those provoke a tours they have lots of money to live on in any case no matter what happens and no matter who is behind those murder and they attempted murder of the escape eyes of the u.k. is going to use this as a pretext to escalate the tensions in their relations with russia. yes they would love to do that but you know eventually they will be exposed they will be revealed they will be caught red handed and three so many will be shamed

for saying the things she says today and this their foreign secretary what is your guy boris yes poorest yeah he will be ashamed there's well you get the wish though and i think you'll survive he'll be ok he couldn't care less what he's doing is serious about that would like to ask a different question how do you think the russia act in this situation i see it. do it they don't have countries do it russia does the right thing russia doesn't pay attention to russia just does its thing. and that's the right way to go like putin said we're strong enough no we've got missiles we've got everything we need to respond to support all those guys seeking global domination name we know what global domination is but we would never do such thing. does the right thing and europe is now on its knees. and

there's nothing you can do about europe i feel sorry for europeans but we've got putin so let's follow him well walter thank you very much for your time our viewers can keep the conversation going in our social media pages as for me here again same place same time here on the wall to par. how does it feel to be a sheriff the greatest job in the world it's as close to being a king as any job there is one business model helps to run a prison now we just do or don't like is there no b.t.o.

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