called the woods this where they hang out they not out right now but this deceived this is where they all be hanging out. to see the drug era. they won't bother you to talk to african-american. i put them business owner on a whole lot and. i was same but as log out of the old man i know that's why i got to know. so. little and told the people there really is a fake us man. i'm john. many relaying silent jews affair of reprisals. they don't they don't talk. they disapprove. they just arrested for not been in their resume pick a my fault they charge me all kind of charge and. they don't want to do it no

communication you know is always aggressive in lowest level deal never told they didn't put him down i begged you said you will dress and if you try to search you go in those you know when this spill over very well they won't have bill money yes want their money as it is about us when the boat bill doesn't they won't do that at the moment they don't give a damn if you did the chores are not going to lock you up and lets you below it if you can beat it it could be to include those who are on the lot is a good line of advice but i'm not going to and i have. not a good car with no. two thousand in them to two thousand. and ninety eight. we had a van that terry jailhouse just read to him a stand on incarcerated and just the courthouse the sheriff the downstairs the d.s.m. status i know some people. it is save that leaders from saying man your parish.

they come and see randy parish like coming back intact because they have that jim crow mentality we all had made jim. the african american is less of a man especially the male is less of a man. he wants to change that. the federal investigation is the first step. but eventually in prison declines all interview requests. the sheriff isn't interested in not seeing any questions. the louisiana incarceration rate is twice as high as the us average and ten times higher than germany which makes it a world record. each of the sixty four sheriffs manages his own prison. and they are elected by fervent supporters. they don't owe any explanation to anyone. for every prisoner the state pays twenty four dollars

a day. the sheriff used that money as they see fit. we leave to meet one of these powerful men next stop the forced parish one hundred thousand residents in cajun country. illegally good work this morning the sheriffs asking about any you come as. and we have no one the process this morning right how many have your process so far. it's ok and how many you have left the process just two more are there warrants or arrests for us to look at and so person comes here and the booking officer takes over that points ten a start booking anyone small it. doesn't get a minute. ok. staff are forming question back on this want to go. i was out.

into the rest i'll visit lusted for two hours and in that time twelve people but in kosovo i took every cell is occupied and take out what. do you do. every day our jail is beyond full we have a capacity of two hundred forty three beds that we can house here in this facility and at any given day we have between seventy five and a hundred twenty five inmates that are in other jails across the state of louisiana . i'm sure would knock her hard time. and send the cattle market a corridor in the old analogy only when a correctional officer has access to it with him walking a perimeter next. to the system has one twisted detail funding is based on occupation. said the sheriff compete to collect the most state every prisoner

means cash. here's the uniqueness of the sheriff in the louisiana is that we are a separate constitutional unit of local government we are a ton of must from the state and we were autonomy as from other branches of government we have our own budget we are able to raise our own funds we kin buy lease purchase property and we can keep self generated revenue the next biggest area our responsibilities of running the jail the greatest job in the well it's as close to being a king as any job that there is that's elected i love it so much of a dinner for twenty five years. it's the best job in the weld but it requires the sheriff to constantly find new clients. it was stored here with a bigger targets was born. alan evans expertise is in arresting multiple people.

after twenty years of patrol duty and when she took parish he knows the district well. fortunately. you know some days we only rest for five some days we'll raise tuner poil you know just on our she'll. you know it just becomes ago when the weather gets better like being with us bertie and sunny outside usually going to rest more people. i think it was fourteen people right up here in this intersection i rolled out to move the street fighting one on the way round them all up we're talking about taking a jail. class by the most other wrist a parcel of muscle or game allow floater to. disperse and they wouldn't

aspire so we just started arresting people and finally everybody took off and lay off. so we ended up with fourteen of. alan sets a personal arrest record a council housing area where rent is love. for these folks down here they will. they won't tell you tony will wave at you because somebody so you can do it they don't think that. they're what they call us needs. to him and rent people out. in them when you come in here we use we bring several false or is it work going to work something. first better crime reported or here's this a lot of disturbances. people fight news with drug related they are going over that drove. the suspects and then taken to which it's a prison. they were here.

and when they get there they're rented to the sheriff. ya want to go make a tour go see what it's like round and say oh well don't warms i guess is it would ok you are it. and it will show you around a bit. one thousand one hundred fifty prisoners are living in very basic conditions this is the way all over set up here you know our whole goal like fifty and one. and they did our. race and then put it back to the south they don't go anywhere they are very here twenty four seventh's. jay russell has just begun his second term as sheriff he knows prison regulations

well he wrote them in his absence only one person can make decisions prison warden pat johnson. and usually there's someone out here with that guy but if not he can sit right here and he can watch the whole. all for. when there's all cameras and you know him so he's got to get out and he knows what's going on at all times just from sitting here. there are many cameras and only one god monitoring two hundred prisoners. beds and laid out closely there is no privity. they have one remand prisoners sleep beside convicted felons. say russell is full of ideas about how to reduce costs. where people would go visit him between glass talk all these you know. but over time technology has taken over that now we just

do it on like i said you know b.t.o. visitation i don't know what comes in it well we don't have to search for many more on saturdays and sundays and it's cost effective not to reveal now that may and how we're doing all right which saves a lot of money and loan. maximum profit at any cost the sheriff will stop at nothing kitchen the prisoners are put to work in here. you know they're getting about forty percent off what they're making but yet they're paying for their incarceration ok so it's a huge deal with those monies like i said do go back in the public say they go to law enforcement they go to our equipment our coord salaries things about nature so they're basically paying us to put them back in jail because if they if they occur if they re a real thing and. we stand all so we should at least be poems here. just right back there so when did the remodel took all the walls out so you just got one

clear look there because i'm going to pay. the sheriff maintains a relationship with every prisoner. no more you had back you know our focus our family is a family you know. twenty eight days twenty years i have been locked up twenty. three to get home but take a. look. joining me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. the most expensive fish in the world each one is selling for tens of thousands of euros it continues to grow its entire life if it was thirty years old you might

have a two ton fish out there and yet they don't get that big today because we're way too good at catching. it's only a much larger mission was one that was much more widely distributed we have politicians that are in office for a few years they have to get reelected everything is very very short term our system is not suited and is not geared for long term survival and that's why we have the catastrophes. when you don't see. what did occur. in the north through only ten space. let alone. said. come into no seven did specify that. you speak french.

and send them all to new. zealand the council itself. it's the cradle of jazz. this. is the america we have. to close this just feel. climatic. alligators on the loose. and cry and be used by the least twelve members of my friends close most. of street racing. the night this is. the best place in the world.

and these are the most profitable inmates they are awaiting release to work outside the prison but they return at night service jobs manufacturing jobs or just it just depends on where they where they need to be in the needy is ok and once we have the jobs we take them to and they pay a percentage of their salaries for their state for their baby further housing for their transportation for their meals for all of that they go back to into the departure to go into the chair stopped so it's very profitable and that was a ok. these hundred eighty two million mason net profit us about a million dollars a year ok profit and once everything's paid for everything. because of the sheriff doesn't want to lose out on this blue critic of business.

deserves a chance yeah absolutely you'd be sure that you know stayed out forever mr. craven and then. i wake at the later are. many louisiana residents who've been to prison. they ought to fit two and a half yes frank was in custody for a robbery he was involved in a huge anyone on the street even in front of their own house is under suspicion really really they all run the risk of being checked yeah and they go to what sound right yo. they don't get the real thing. is

talking about the police who patrol the area at walking pace. that the. day to day from moderate video of people in the street. that would be seen at a cost is a lot of really your people in the street so yes there were shooting new video. that you're going to try to make. i was picked up. once and then laid all released and was picked up again and from there i was here. toward abir and. i was there at the store and i didn't see none. came in the store always thing with soda in my lawyer. didn't mention anything about ted to distinctive features he said no so or so you're lego or

mark pointed out in the pits and. he said that he didn't see anything. we had ever mazer for monsieur and he went to the store earlier. and then later. two and a half years later i was released. as in custody made the twenty six year old father of five rights rap songs. about life for louisiana prisoners. bring. it conditionally were. showers dollar me for too much very cold showers. or whatever. no. they were there are so many innocent people because nobody paid attention you know

like. no you know voice would be going over. to me as a chain of command you know. the local law enforcement is ridiculous million. and from there you know they all work together and i mean of of nobody could come in and see was going. to get away with. this. franks is not an exceptional story. louisiana was late to abolish slavery but african-americans still had to fight for their rights. a cute guy the toll cute guy here. it was me and one nine hundred sixty three that was me. fifty four years ago. that was me. i was one of them

who led to demonstrations and it was met by people who would guns in and all of the other stuff that people had in the middle sixty's to stop african-american kids from demonstrating from seeking now dance civil rights. after years of political activity calvin johnson became the first black judge in louisiana. he's often dealt with sheriffs. they all words i can use to describe what i feel about that. but then you would have to cut those words out of this interview. because slavery had indeed the way to keep people in slave was to use the justice system and then fix laws such that. the newly freed people for misleads would be put back in jail and then be forced to go back

on the plantations and work is not dead they are. a mean people of bad people it's it's that they are as much a a for lack of a better word victim of the system as the people who are in the jails all victims of the system because we are a poor state and we have used all kinds of means a ways to to fund ourselves so the sheriff in those places all using that as a means to fund. the sheriff's self and his and was needs to operate when he's using it for that purpose and the louisiana law the third time he did one of those things i just described you could go to jail for life. i would not do. that.

steve exemplifies the absurdity of the system in two thousand and seven he was arrested for driving under the influence in prison he learned that he was a chevy positive. you want to spend the money on. own their jobs. because i was only inmate those want to go the house but. they feel like i was very poor. yet when i was almost dead they they saved me if they would send me the hospital sooner. then. the infection and they would sell my hair would probably wouldn't even be in there my spinal fluid build up my spine or calm down. remembering katie pushed my brain up and was pushing forward on the trying to push it through my face. as i reminded

her was about to pop out of the sockets the piece of the optic nerve on the backside permanently damaged. it was in the hospital and they tell me that i was a job the positive. told when they must have somebody else's records confused with mine because i'm not a job. and they said yes you are. time. yeah. you need to talk about everything you know there is no. left and. only me and. steve returns to prison but his treatments didn't begin until months later thanks to social workers like darren stanley prisoners can hope for medical care as a source we're going to figure out how to get that medication since you and a blister pack. who say they will do a chevy medication in

a blister pack. according to the sheriff's twenty four dollars per prisoner per day isn't enough to pay for hiv treatment louisiana was very odd compared to the other states it was very clear that we had a very big problem with our parish and city jails providing h.l.v. medication treatment to the inmates it was crystal clear you consider the culture of medication i could imagine there's a lot of aids i would be proud of inmates there are not getting treatment. the old prison of new orleans has finally in the past it was one of the was in the united states. the new prisoner looks like an office building. even inside it's very different. our idea of our condition hypertension bleeding disorder and kidney disease you know mary have you ever been exposed to.

any venereal a sexually transmitted disease and on a time from our. health questionnaire is a brand new concept in louisiana prisons. the prison is proud of it but the procedure is still in its trial phase i. guess not the sheriff but a prison spokesman who receives us. well the budget has changed it used to be based on what we call a per d.m. meaning that we would receive a certain amount from the city which supplies our budget with more of the state when we had stayed in maids of so many dollars per inmate. that system we no longer use we receive a budget. just like many other agencies too and so we must operate within that budget to. take care of all of our operations here under the ost

system there was an incentive to have more inmates because the more you have the more money get. outdated and inhumane. an unambiguous indictment of the state's other prisons. with its new system new orleans wants to set a positive example but with a creative president in a state with established traditions independent parishes and old awful sheriffs. times that email the attacking anybody yet. but then again.

i'm not god. in the mood to attack him. so you just have images to say so if you want. to. know what about the natural again i don't see a good deal i could see because the. patient is feeling hope it comes to kids will you. allow for. six months. did not look for the perpetrators they were covering up to trick them to the muzzle of the. kid they were there for he didn't rush it will find out who did it and. it was ukraine who did that. ukraine

forty one russia to clash with the rest of the world. and there are some for us so much that all of them. i don't want. to live the few who took the critical of what. you know down the road you but. you salute. them with the news for the. and if it's not stiff the question is still yes but all yes the chest but. by the west of here for everyone that is for cox involved with

the corps bazza. don't walk by what i'm reading while there but i'll go out. for you boys will pull you out of a. bit and democracy and what about and i didn't do it will always be good is it also. or know when to hold. on a politician. to keep it or don't or don't let you be come up with a little truth. on the net about the how i live and i have

a dead grandmother the minimum time there's a. number who want to go but oh november native i say i give them their identity what about anatta but i will be his eyes and it is about.

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