want to speak to us this way. ok there's the story this hour here on r.t. international the head of a british military lab says that is a so far failed to determine the country of origin of the substance used to poison former russian agents and his daughter a month ago and this is despite the u.k. government having already laid the blame at russia's doorstep let's hear to the comments of the chief of portadown we have not verified the to say source but we provided the scientific information to the government but you have not been able to establish at porton down that this was made in russia as i said it's our job to provide aid you know the scientific evidence that identifies what the particular near of each and is but it's not our job to see where that actually was manufactured so to be clear your not able at portadown to say where it is from we haven't yet been able to do that. and it's been out of form my five intelligence

officers and you marshawn a very good evening tiranny porton down the laboratory there the chief said it couldn't establish yet where this military nerve agent came from does not mean that other government agencies might have the evidence of what the u.k. has been saying for weeks now that it was russia behind this poisoning. i think it says that this thing could have come from anywhere it had been a state actor it could have been a state math here type thing it could be in from anywhere and the point is they don't know i mean you have to remember as well that in terms of the police investigation which they said would take months probably to try and establish what happened in this attack the police investigation has said they don't know where how how this thing was actually applied it has been door handles it has been serial it has been in the bar in a pub whatever they just don't know and this is what i've been saying right from

the start of the investigation that the police need the space to build up an evidentiary chain in order to try and work out what exactly happened to the script of abuse point we simply do not have the facts to support an argument it would seem against any particular act or state until we get it as maybe this will still emerge from the government at this point do you think any of those who've been backing the stance against russia retracts all soft position. i think really difficult for other countries to retract and to soften the position because the u.k. raced into the idea that it must be russia because he was a russian agent for m i six and therefore they put out some sort of intelligence based. information that made sure that other countries would then. back up the idea of expelling diplomats and that's that's created

a huge problem internationally different and it's a big threat to world peace i think in the sense that all of all these western countries of rushed this position so it's it's a dangerous time to be in. now your former intelligence agent in terms of intelligence and information was this is strong enough stance to you know position to have to make a stance like the u.k. government is going in very strongly very boldly. they said well it's a robust action against russia but they can't prove who did this we did they have the intelligence to take this stance no absolutely not it appears that they have just rushed in as a p.r. type. action and i think that's really dangerous because we are in a very delicate diplomatic situation with syria with ukraine with the trade war

that's going on between the u.s. and china as well so you know i think it's a very reckless thing see done and i'm not quite sure why they did it i mean perhaps it's because of practice it wanted to puff themselves up as a big animal in the i don't know but you know it's just not a terribly sensible thing for the u.k. to have done at this point would you make of the the answer the chief of port down go to the question about whether the lab itself stores of navi could have said yes you could have said no it would certainly clarified a lot of things either way instead he refused to give an answer as someone who's probably used to doing a lot of interest interrogations and. assimilating of information what do you make of a response like that. well i think it's very clear that they were equivocal about where this this nerve agent allegedly might have come from they

have said very clearly as well that might have been it was something that was investigated by russia was ten she developed our atia but they don't know if it came from russia and we're talking about the soviet union by the way we're told ninety seven thousand nine hundred eighty s. not russia the russian federation now so that's a very different era that they're talking about and they've been very clear about this and according to the you can be asked to craig murray. who has talked very clearly about some of this evidence around what's going on he said very clearly that they just don't know they just don't know it could be from anywhere the new scientist magazine in in the u.k. has said very clearly as well this this agent has been developed from many many other countries around the world iran apparently did develop it under the auspices of the organization the prohibition of chemical weapons in twenty sixteen to show

that it could be to prove that it could be developed so many many other countries could have this so for the u.k. government to within a week immediately say it must be russia is just disingenuous at best but it's actually very deadly dangerous a valid reason for them down doesn't have the answer is there another department or agency connected to the government the might have such proof was to. go over. well i think orton down has been put under pressure to try and say it's definitely the russians and they refused to do that as craig murray has exposed of course the organization the prohibition of chemical weapons has been caught in two weeks after the instant by the way which the u.k. should mediately and we still are waiting their response so we just don't know at this point for porton down to say this in the teeth of what the u.k. government is saying i think it's interesting let's talk politics because there's

been an awful lot involved in what really looks like a criminal case but it's gone way beyond the confines of. british foreign secretary boris johnson said it was overwhelmingly likely that the russian president vladimir putin was behind this poisoning given the lack of facts and evidence at this point the been exams extremely bold statements made by politicians and very strong stances. is it likely that comments like that are going to come back to haunt people i think so yes i mean how can you say that at this point when this is first your top diplomat in u.k. right and he saying immediately it must be printed. it beggars belief that our senior diplomat should be saying that you know they have to wait for the police to build up an evidence or chain in this case the police have said it would take weeks if not months to build up that evidence will take to get the o.p.c. w.

has said it's going to take weeks to establish exactly what chemicals were involved and we have a miraculous recovery you know wonderfully for the police officer who is also poisoned and you scriptural so it's so many known unknowns so for politicians speak grandstanding to be saying this now at this point in a very difficult diplomatic scenario i guess i find it. reckless and actually quite flabbergasting appreciate your time speaking to five intelligence officers thank you. let's go back to london which is really sort of the epicenter of the revelations coming out of the u.k. our correspondent. is but is back on the line i would have thought in the u.k. reaction to this it's been always kind of like deafening the silence coming out of the u.k.

so far just just take us through the latest developments and any response if there's been me. well neal we're certainly still waiting for any kind of official follow up from westminster on these latest revelations from porton down now that their chief executive of this major leading british defense science lab has basically said that not only do they not have proof that russia is not behind this crippled poisoning and this case but they also don't know the source of where this military grave nerve agent that everybody has been talking about had come from and of course this is seen as a major development given the amount of accusations that have been flying around against russia where its culpability was presumed basically from the very beginning whenever his last name was established and it was determined that he was once connected to russia that's when it all began and this whole time while we've been seeing russia asking for proof evidence and facts all we've been seeing was major accusations coming from westminster really pointing all fingers at moscow before

any proof was presented let's take a look. it's highly unlikely that russia was responsible we do hold russia koku culpable culpable for the attempt to. escape. calling. to do. well on the other hand we saw the leader of the opposition labor party jeremy corbyn a call for some kind of patience call for a potential dialogue some time to wait and see what the evidence is he had lots of questions in parliament let's take a look at those. as the prime minister taken the necessary steps under the chemical weapons convention to make a full request for evidence from the russian government under article nine point two. how has she responded to the russian government's request for a sample of the agent used in the soles read time to run its own tests.

as a resolution trace analysis been run on a some pool of the nerve agents and has that revealed any evidence as to the location of its production all the identity of its perpetrators and can the prime minister update the house on what conversations if any she's had with the russian government and while. and while suspending planned to highlevel contacts does the prime minister agree that it is essential to maintain a robust dialogue with russia. while the opposition party leader jeremy corbyn saw quite a lot of criticism here for having even asked those questions where we saw at the same time the british prime minister of course the u.k. foreign secretary boris johnson even u.k. defense minister gavin williamson saying things like russia should go away and shut up with all major massive media and press hype that continued to decipher every

single potential rumor and detail that could have anything or maybe nothing to do with this case while russia's capability was determined from the very beginning and not too many questions if any were asked about the reality of what actually happened and why russia would have a motive in all of this major scandal of course this being without any fake evidence or proof or russia's participation even having turned into the biggest diplomatic route between russia and the u.k. for sure and. course while we've seen members of the o.p.c. w. the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons arrive to the u.k. to conduct their own investigation we're still waiting to see what they will have to say we do know that the russian foreign minister has said that they want to hear answers by tomorrow otherwise this is something that moscow is going to be continuing to see as a provocation since it is also a member of the o.p.c. w.

and of course last but not least we're also have the latest developments of yulia script paul regaining consciousness at the hospital while sergei's copal continues to be in a coma and many here are curious to see what she's going to have to say with lots of questions and again rumors and speculations going around in the british press and media but certainly many people who have been following this story very closely are looking forward to seeing what it is that she will have to say and of course very importantly any real investigation coming out which we've seen the police having said that it's likely to take as much as weeks if not months to wrap up but for today we have this major development of scientists having said they don't have proof it was russian and they don't know where the normal child came from. many thanks our correspondent in london on the situation i think you. russia have been blamed for without conclusive evidence being provided here's

a look at how the russia did it equation in the script out good.

yes despite of until now there being no evidence presented to back up you case claim some countries and organizations have quickly sided with the u.k. expelling russian diplomats and nato was no exception in order southern russian diplomatic staff to leave its headquarters or deputy foreign affairs minister in this is also the former permanent representative to nato told does in his opinion. was likely devise the military spending. i think this whole script case was concocted to prepare public opinion for the ever increasing amounts of money being spent on the military at present the military budgets of european nato members put together to approximately two hundred seventy billion if they achieve the two percent target that some will come to four hundred billion that would be ten times more than russia's military budget. obviously such whopping amounts of money being spent on the military are liable to be the subject of heated public debate to make

sure this goes down well you need the image of an enemy and a powerful one at that so it's crystal clear that this huge provocation that was carried out by the u.k. was intended to achieve this goal which is to add fuel to the flames of recent phobia which has recently begun to peter out as people are simply got tired of it having expelled russian diplomats nato is soaring off the branch they're sitting on as it were i can't believe they don't realize that in this turbulent time a lack of proper communication between the two powers in europe could potentially bring about very dangerous consequences. ok our correspondent there joins me in the studio which is why i was slightly turned to speak to him. i think the biggest question mark as it has been all along who is capable of synthesizer manufacturing already had stores of this agent and the fact that borton down haven't been able to narrow it down to one which is the suggestion the u.k.

government made it illegal an awful lot of questions well exactly the the substantive chemistry behind it is needless to say credibly complex but i was given a crash course yesterday i spoke to a number of russian chemists military researches who had who had also worked with many many years ago with. their explained a few details such as corroborating the porton that version that these. have been manufactured in a serious the borat or you know well funded with technical experts but there's more to it they shared with me the information that you know for the british to have identified what had been used in the attacks so quickly they must have had it in there let's call it a library it's an index of all known and tested chemicals and every single chemical has its own unique identifier it's called the mass spectrum it's all very difficult

but. sees this any chemical you take you test it you measure it you have a mass spectrum whatever you have that chemical again you test it and it'll show you what it is the british by all appearances already had nuvi chalk in their database meaning they either made the nerve agent one of them one of the new rich or nerve agents or they somehow acquired it and tested it meaning that you know suddenly the story that only russia has it easy is very wrong and downright misleading but these scientists these chemists also told me other identifiers by which they believe that britain and other countries have their own stockpiles. british authorities are saying they administered an antidote on the first day after the poisoning here decide what to use they would need to know what

poison was used but otherwise you run the risk of exacerbating the situation even further so i infer the british authorities knew what poison was used in the so three attack from the very beginning there's still a group of toxic agents known under the umbrella term novacek we first came across them in open isn't and seven that's when the public you the formulas were included with as many as sixty toxic agents there each of them was assigned an index in the chemical expert system so they're all available in open sources the sport and no secret. of course. the new over chalk nerve agents are incredibly difficult and complex to make you know when. in a basement or downright downright impossible. but we don't have any exact information about what exactly which agent it was the information about them the formulas have been available in books for decades they're even instructions to

scientists believe root out the entire process by which they manufactured synthesised. but there's been no communication between the russians and the british absolutely no communications the russians have asked time and time again for some information about the assassination attempt about substance use that you know anything by which they could help the british have not responded in any way but the russian foreign minister believes eventually they won't have a choice. you will not be possible to get away from the questions since the obvious now and what else is obvious is now british colleagues have conceived fast with this game and you just shoot. and just very quickly the russians have forwarded a range of questions to interested parties the british as well as the u.p.c. w organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons to open up about the investigation to tell them what the british it gave them what the british gave them

how the investigation is going about various details and the u.p.c. w. has promised to respond today ok let's bring in a guest now and speak to george galloway broadcaster former u.k. m.p. great to see george. i don't go too far with this latest information but it certainly doesn't support the u.k. government's argument that this was highly likely or even more certain as boris johnson put it you know the decision of putin to carry out this poisoning is this embarrassing for the government. it's a national embarrassment for my country and i feel a deep sense of humiliation and i think that will be widely felt across the land it's an abject humiliation of the british government the prime minister and in particular boris johnson the foreign secretary in fact for him i believe this is

a resigning matter because he didn't just join in the chorus of blame russia he lied on national television on the state broadcast of the b.b.c. he said i have spoken to the guy porton down but the very guy who made the statement today on behalf of porton down and he said the guy told him that it was russia that did it it could only have been russia that did it this was worse than a mistake it was a lie and a for a foreign secretary to lie in public about such a grave matter must be a resignation matter now i'm tempted to have a course in william shakespeare in macbeth i am in blood steeped in blood so far is it more tedious to go on or to go or in other words the british

government is right in the middle of the river of blood on this affair do they go back do they go on do they stand there and will they be subsumed by it it is a grave national embarrassment of enormous proportions and the only person who comes out of this in the british political class with any credit whatsoever is the leader of the opposition germany corben which may be why he has been under such unremitting ferocious assault over the last couple of weeks because the british government knew that this bad news was coming down the pipe for them. george i want to talk media now it's kind of appropriate today i was interviewed by david dimbleby from the b.b.c. cheering our conversation he talked about how far advanced the level of the media

is in the u.k. when it comes to scrutinizing their government what do you think about the u.k. precious role in this how they question government it seems like they certainly got on board with their stance nor the certainly question the opposition but they really question the government which is of course the very reverse of war in media in a properly free society should be doing they never question those with power they only question those who are questioning boards with power and the treatment of mr corben over the last couple of weeks is an exemplar of which will live one hundred years they'll be studying one hundred years the easter weekend. of hatred and abuse coordinated by the british media and the broadcast of the b.b.c. and you spoke to it do i in mr dimbleby he's the king of the

broadcaster he's one of the what's the offenders or more jewish is the question given that tarnishes punishment has already been handed out what with the expulsion of all these diplomats by both sides to it for tat. isn't the investigation now at this point a formality a foregone conclusion you can't very well have an investigation that ends you know with a not guilty verdict with the punishment having already been dished out isn't it politics now. well i believe this can only get worse for the government after all by the grace of god you really are screwed powell is sitting up in bed eating drinking and talking and what happens if he sees that the series of events portrayed by the british government isn't accurate arturo what if she sheds light on an entirely different series of possibilities that would certainly

bring down the british government which might be a reason for concern about yulia scrip hour which is one of the reasons why her home country russia no doubt wishes to exercise the legal and constitutional right of consular access to her and there are all kinds of things about this case i have been writing and broadcasting about them ad nauseum now for a month as has people like the honorable craig morrey the former british ambassador or two who's back his son with these very weapons. held were developed and were supposedly destroyed there's far more there's far more to come on this story george thank you so much for joining us giving a selfish my guest is broadcaster for me you can take george galloway there thank you so much ok going to wrap things up for the news hour that is very

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agent that chemical used in the poisoning of a former double agent his daughter in the u.k. . here we have not verified eight feet just a source but we provided the scientific information to the government this softer weeks of the u.k. and its allies pinning the blame of course on russia resulting in that big political standoff and diplomatic expulsions right now.