which at the camera nation at this new region cannot be identified positively as russian or as having emanated from russia russia's offer of a joint investigation is entirely reasonable under the circumstances indeed what is even more reasonable would be a foursome apology to russia by the british government for desiccate ing the russian government desiccated its reputation and with a repudiation of the russian people because we have seen what i consider to have been anti russian racism being created in the mainstream as part of u.k. foreign policy in these past few weeks ok to have to leave it there have to be able to get some more answers from the russian delegation in the hague in the next couple of hours from now there thanks for your time. this is r.t. international next update an hour from now.

i'm after a time say we're going underground with tourism a fighting for political life i mean it's the coldest of cold war u.k. rhetoric on air strikes on syria and on the eve of elections it can see its elects its all quit silly it's early leaving the european union coming up on the show venezuela help us british gas supplies are threatened by storm and money probably not for u.k. foreign secretary bars johnson killed off ken livingstone's fuel deal but what about e.u. sanctions against the country with the biggest knode oil reserves in the world to venezuela's foreign minister jorge arya about human rights of a supposed election and trumped threat of war and in a historic week we speak to the u.k. committee on exiting the news you'll williams about the end of the united kingdom as we know it too late for tomorrow's oscars fifteen years to the day catherine gunn expose u.k. u.s. corruption of the u.n. to excuse tony blair's iraq the war katharine graham told to us about whistle

blowing and being played by keira knightley in the upcoming film official secrets all of them all coming up in today's going underground at first it may not be teresa mayes final prime minister's questions as britain's minority government leader but it was certainly she questions of germy corbin's position oh mort has implications for the breakup of the united kingdom this week he said he wants a customs a range but i mean we could negotiate on the trade deals well that's the government's position so what he wants to let down the country or agree with the government the leader of your of the largest socialist movement jeremy call been referenced a leaked letter from foreign secretary boris johnson just as the leader of the s.n.p. in westminster did the formal circuitries lete lantos on the irish ball. the shows he can't get to grips with one of the most fundamentally shoots of brakes are the foreign secretary compared crossing the irish border to doing between camden and

why spend stuff like that you could not make the stuff thought this is how you keep government that is prepared to put at jeopardy the good friday agreement which the prime minister i feel even though probably want to thank you for a reason he can't forget like you can't do i love thanks not to raise i'm a only prime minister because of our alliance to a previously para military wing protestant political party appeared to say she didn't want bombs in british cities that commitment to the belfast agreement stands and we committed to belfast agreement and the institutions under the pale fast agreement those institutions are not working incidentally but the belfast agreement to end u.k. army slaughter of catholics and ira bombs in london are arguably not in the spirit of u.k. foreign policy today britain de facto supports what damascus calls terrorism it supports saudi bombing of yemen even inviting a saudi prince to london next week when it comes to oil interests nor doggedly allied to the pentagon it seeks the overthrow of governments one in particular

venezuela the nation with the world's largest known resources of oil a march in support of president maduro is shed ewald in london for ten days time with dora's foreign minister or. joins me now thank you so much foreign minister of a coming again on going underground first of all the news that general elections have been delayed why since last year we have been talking with the opposition we had the dialogue process in the main again republic it was working very well we had very important that vance's and finally when the the opposition and the government had to sang we traveled to santo domingo the president maybe now was there former presidents about there from spain was there as well and when the opposition arrived they said. they were not going to saying there was no agreement that the date was to close the twenty second of april so we kept on having conversations and finally it was they say that to move the date to the second part of may the last two weeks

of may we don't have the precise they are ready but it has been announced we have been as a government and the electoral institutions as well they are independent but we are thinking about the country about democracy about the future and we want all the parties to take part in the election and that's the reason why we have president maduro has agreed and press the mother who is already the candidate of the revolutionary forces so our candidate will wait for the candidates of the opposition and we will have the elections in less money of course the british foreign secretary boris johnson merely says that your president is a dictator who imprisons thousands of people i believe mr bari xians and. or his making fake news or he's receiving fake news there is not such thing as a ted recipient venezuela this is one of the most deep profound democracies in the whole world we have we have had elections three elections last year and now we're

going for the presidential election this year i mean no where in the world this happens and we will demonstrate as we have for over one thousand years that the venezuelan or leave aryan revolution is a real democracy and it can be envied by other democracies even in the old you americans appeared to be very interested certainly american journalist in your country the new york times made it ten thousand would piece comparing opposition leader mr leopoldo lopez to martin luther king jr what do you think of that and have intelligence agents go into his home we have too much natural resources i have seen we have oil we have guys we have gold and of course the. the u.s. government and elite want a government that facilitates all these resources to go to the usa and that's absolutely absurd you know mr lopez is responsible for more than forty three people

dying in twenty fourteen call in the people to the streets to do violent demonstrations and riots he has been a right wing opposition not the leader and we believe. we have done a lot to keep peace remember last year we had violent months four months of violence and presume a daughter did not resolve this is not solve the issue with repression what he did was to call the people for elections he convened elections for a national constituent assembly and peace came the next day after the election and it has kept this way very smoothly very quiet and that's what's going to happen after the presidential elections as well boris johnson and the european union says that your president and your government violates human rights what have you been saying at the u.n. human rights council this week about the sanctions against your country by the european union these sanctions against venezuela violate not only international law

but our human rights today it's difficult for us to get to our oil paid back you know with the liver chips with oil and then the companies either in the u.s. or in other parts of the world cannot pay back the money and we have more than one thousand million dollars in europe in europe clear which are blocked and banks are blocking and we have to buy in to import medicines and food and raw material for our people and it doesn't it's difficult today because of these sanctions do you discussed sanctions with your russian counterpart sergey lavrov in geneva this week yes i must say that the russian government prescient. thing and all the government have been very helpful with us we are trying to build different routes different paths to avoid to bypass sanctions with russia with china with

thirty and with other allies in the world they are worried about the venezuelan people you know that. the secretary of state of the us tillerson he said he was happy because in north korea enough korea there were people dying because of the sanctions those are the figures they look for to say that their politics their policies are are well directed this is not going to happen in venezuela because we are taking decisions we have allies in the world and we're going to protect our people from the sanctions and from any other attack from the u.s. you've seen how u.s. backed agencies have brought down a government in brazil in that in america moscow and beijing did very little to help stop the rise of a cia asset michel tema a former cia asset becoming president why do you think that beijing in moscow is going to help you because we have built a very close relationship with beijing and with and with moscow and we are more

than. you know associates we are friends we are brothers and this was built by come on down to chavez and it has been also protected by press in my dude so i believe that russia and china we would do much more for venezuela and then anyone can imagine in the world why do you think no one here in britain certainly from the government believes u.n. expert alfred desire claims there is presently no humanitarian crisis in venezuela because what they want the world to believe is that there is a humanitarian crisis when the when there are he military rescinds you know that armies from other countries can intervene this regarding. the principles of international law that's the objective it's the old trick but of course you can you can come to venezuela and you can just look around and you can see that there is no

such thing as a humanitarian crisis of course we have trouble with some pro the with the some made the scenes but we it's been solved we have a better idea this year than last year and twenty seventeen was better than twenty sixteen and with democratic decisions and with our allies we're going to solve everything that's for sure what did you tell british ambassador andrew and other e.u. ambassadors i understand understood by the british man in caracas i was once based in washington and in brazil we had a dinner with all the european ambassador. of the e.u. and they had a lot of questions why do it was likely for i was being questioned by a. the inquisition tribunals and i had to defend the truth in venezuela i had to defend my people i had to tell them that they were not in the right path but i must say that the british ambassador had

a good attitude he understood what i was saying and i told him that we have to improve our relationships we have relation very good ones since the venezuelan independence where the who had the english army helped to liberate their people so we have to get back to the path of cooperation of mutual respect and avoid these attacks and this respect for the venezuelan sovereignty i believe that the european union is going to rethink their view about venezuela and specially the united kingdom but must do so because we have always been friends and that's the way it has to be is it your understanding that some of these powers are now backing and refiled call on. to the roth of the democratic unity opposition teams. i have decided to run against my dura at the elections presumably in may i am not sure what's going to happen in the opposition at hand to focus on is one of the opposition leaders he has by himself he has a good party he has

a lot of. people who support him and i believe that the other parties have the opposition if he's the only candidate from the from the mood i must say there are twenty four other candidates have the resistor and only one is from the government which is press in the auto so i believe most of the part of the opposition will support and reflect on and people will vote for him and the venezuelan people will decide their future freely and without any kind of interference from the international community and the international community has to help venezuela to help the dialogue in venezuela and they can come on a company the days of the elections we have invited the secretary general of the u.n. we have invited the people of caricom of the african union and other international observers that will be with us during the week of the elections just finally i know

donald trump is now threatening insurance types of sanctions against oil shipments he has of course threatened military action against venezuela i understand seven hundred thirty five million dollars in one day was the applications for the oil based venezuelan cryptocurrency how do you think they're going to try and sabotage your oil based cryptocurrency the petro they have already said that the people who views who use the pads are also violating these. these sanctions against venezuela but you know that crypto currency is a different world they don't go through the traditional banking system financial system so it's going to be really difficult for them petro has had a very good answer not only in venice where. in america but also in the us in europe in russia so it's going to be a very useful tool for us to help our economy to comply with our compromises

abroad and so we have the payment capacity again and again granted in spite of the sanctions and all the attacks from the us foreign minister thank you thank you very much austrian my pleasure after the break. the u.k. committee on existing huell williams on jelly crisps and all that and the end of the united kingdom as we know it and forget tomorrow's off because we don't do legendary rock wall with a look out for and to be played by keira knightley in the upcoming film with matt smith official secrets all of them all coming up but to have going underground. henry kissinger once said the brush in the united states went into the ukrainian crisis acting rationally based on mutual misconceptions. tensions heightened over the scruple case it's guided by misconceptions we didn't get rid of

misrepresentation. welcome back in the past twenty four hours you gave minority government leader tourism a has tried to remain britain's leader instead of jacob reese morg the bookies tory favorite let alone jeremy corbyn the overall favorite comes after a week in which the very identity of the u.k. has come under threat after defacto e.u. threats to tear apart northern ireland from scotland england and wales joining me now is welsh nationalist m.p. hugh williams who is on britain's exiting the european union select committee you're welcome to going underground so aside from the term old your speeches this

week to raise a may in the past twenty four hours bonnie on wednesday take us back to how your committee's meeting was with michel barnier the used chief negotiator of the brakes when he was quite stern interestingly when we've met him before he's spoken in english most of the time. for the twenty minutes telling is often french about the u.k. position and clearly you know they're the building up to a very hard position as has become apparent over the last few days you know it's interesting for me as a mere backbencher from wales to be there right of the sense out of his hole and intervene people like. me the other day was a form of trade commissioner. who was the chief negotiator trade negotiator formerly done zero or what in the wake of what he had to say to somebody said the other day was swapping a three course meal for the promise of a packet of crisps but he told us various other things. not just grist for jelly

well anderson i just tell you we're only bombing let's you know the armless one is good because he said you know trying to negotiate this is like trying to take an egg out of a normal it's but the jelly one was amazing somebody asked them will the deals that we make after we leave will they make up for the trade that we lose with the european union and with a very spiritual. but with a very straight face he said well you know there's not a huge demand for jelly in the european union we produced. with the jelly level but he said you know if you can find the top jelly exporting could see they might swap in these markets with you for the for the fifty million that they have in the wood up but you know i mean he's pulling our leg fairly severely with a very deliberate this years are not going to like they're going to keep emphasizing the crucial percentages and proportion of trade between britain and the court to that but ireland is no the critical key issue here rules are certainly mean a hard border pascal lamy told you about ireland where you can't have a ball there without

a ball the arrangements on both sides because the back says he is now is saying well we'll just open the border entirely. let anything in and it's their problem they have to come to us that source of arguments. all british business could just relocate a bell for us i mean i'm welsh business and scottish business is a fantasy you only do actually entertain racism there there will be no border that's what the government's position is all british business can really look into the north of the island of ireland and we'll be in europe i asked him about thoughts and said you know where do you reckon the border will be even if we don't have one in the north of ireland isn't the case of them have to be in the middle of the sea between. brits and the irish exactly because he has never bought the somewhere he seem to think it's the bricks as he is of course i don't know i've got to ask you as applied m.p. though how and why does your party and i've got to ask you with the two had to wear one of them bought of the all party parliamentary group on catalonia how and why

you want to be part of a european union which you still do and i know the world's population according to the poll did want to be part of european union the jail's politicians i'm chair of the opacic us alone you could have owned up so that immediately and i was over there for the referendum i actually did see a police station the police arriving including people in the ground for daring to votes now the question be lee is here with me in the ninety's or. red line for britain why would we want to britain want to be a part of our leading institution really to deceive or everywhere indoors maybe even they're arguing against them or you don't side them letting them get on with it's you know it's the local and the international for the brother you know britain as the fortress britain because i'm sure. there's that from the bennett wing of labor would always say it was internationalist to be outside the european union anyway but any news about anna gabriel of the spanish politician having to leave the norm european union switzerland because arrest warrant has been put out for the

the leader of the catalans living in brussels because he dare not move back or he'll be put in jail or britain after breaks it could be a haven of freedom away from the european union which shows he was to be allowing the jailing of its politicians that might be the case i mean what's the european union would probably say is that national policy is the national action is a matter for individual member states the united nations has been criticising leave for human rights over its treatment of refugees coming over from libya libya of course destroyed by an alliance including many european union nations and also you know the bus been happening in hungary with a big fence there to keep people out and poland why certain want to be part of an institute i can see the financial now the center of as you would have it as opposed to what jacob riis more might say surely with time for britain to leave well without going into a huge detail but initially it was a common market it was a matter of selling potatoes to each other for better profits i suppose of that

sort of thing and then they would be in the union has developed into a body which protects environmental standards working standards you know working time directive as i think of wars there's a war in yugoslavia and you know and you know sure that they want members of the time of course but still it's a war in europe that again as well the european union with us is. i'm pro european and it's a great expense i'm pro us. well they're not entirely and finally is your committee even going to last until twenty nineteen was mostly depends if the government lasts how long you know that i mean the betting at the moment is that either we last saw and this parliament or twenty twenty two or possibly the next mayor you're williams thank you thank you. well fifteen years ago today a leaked memo between u.k. and u.s. spy agencies g.h.q. in the n.s.a. was released to the public a detailed collusion between governments to illegally bugged the united nations in

an attempt to swing tony blair's vote to invade iraq a war that would go on to kill wound or displace tens of millions of people a decade and a half on u.k. and u.s. bombing of iraq continues and the story of that whistleblower is becoming a hollywood film starring keira knightley and matt smith former g c h q translator and whistleblower catherine go on joins me now gather that coming on the show in person if anyone doesn't know who you are arguably they're going to know about you shortly do you think keira knightley playing you in a new film official secrets is going to make more people aware of what you did as a whistleblower and what you went through our hopes yeah i think. i think it's a good. choice and she's going to do a fantastic job back there working with gavin and the producers and hopefully with meeting care fairly shortly hopefully affair will reach out to people who maybe

don't generally look in an alternative direction so i mean this marks fifteen years now since you blew the whistle on g c h q and s a collusion connivance to get us into a war that killed wounded or injured maybe tens of millions of people what does it feel like as i describe it in a press conference it's like. if you see an elderly person struggling with their bags and somebody comes and tries to rob them of their purse or something what would be your instinct you'd run and try and assist the elderly person if you see a child crossing the road and the traffic coming you try and leap in and grab them it's an instinctive kind of reaction and when i saw that memo. i just thought this is a red flag you know i had no choice i have to do something it was just immediate

responsibility interactive reaction to break the official secrets act and possibly harm relations between lovers of washington and to to expose a memo that talked about the u.n. security council and britain's getting into the iraq war while exposed. wrongdoing exposed duplicitous behavior. and you know i think anybody looking back now there are very few of the people who initially championed the war who are still holding on to the same position and i think virtually everybody who at one point thought it was a good idea have now backtracked i mean it was a disastrous decision it was an illegal war. and the emu specifically was the north about iraq it was about process was loose well it was about legitimizing the invasion. and nobbling the u.n. security council. yes intercepting the domestic and office communications of the

sixteen nations that was sitting on the un security council at the time in order to bribe all intimidate more you know embarrass them in however way possible to vote for that second u.n. resolution that would have given the u.s. and the u.k. that legal cover for a preemptive strike and that that does not exist even to this day there is no legal cover there's no justification for a preemptive strike i was aware of the fact that iraq was not a threat to the u.s. and the u.k. you know it was a country that had suffered years of war years of sanction and they were struggling to pull themselves together again and just finally advice to anyone watching you if you were a military installation or any government in the world you had to do that you live here in britain. what if they're thinking about you right now what should they be

focusing on as to whether to go public it's obviously a very personal decision and it's a very difficult decision but i was speaking to matthew hoh who is a former u.s. we had him on the show. and you know that he will tell you that. a lot of evidence pointing out the fact that. suicide levels the rates of suicide among veterans for example is extremely high it's about six percent higher than the novel really should be paid if you're being opposed to work at the pentagon to senior levels in afghanistan yes and you know and and they now know that some people don't commit suicide from p.t.s.d. they commit suicide from guilt it's the guilt eating up inside which causes them to take their own lives and we also have the example of larry welk wilkerson who was the senior age to colin powell and he's told me personally that he's eaten up by

guilt because he prepared colin powells brief that went in front of the u.n. . which persuaded vast numbers of people that the invasion was necessary and he is consumed by guilt so now his way of appeasing this is is to shout as loud as he can about the abuses so don't wait till you yourself are suffering from this. position this malady of being mentally tortured by guilt if you know something if you think it is in the public interest to know please bring it forward and you are not alone because and the time that i blew the whistle you know now wasn't the trend of whistle blowing as it was and it was for me after i found it very isolating but now there's

a community of people that has all kinds of organizations that will help support you and defend you and support your family and so on it's it's growing. thank you. i hope you enjoyed that episode of going underground for my latest season we'll be back on the eleventh of april for a brand new season of going underground but you can still keep in touch with us while we're away on facebook twitter and instagram so users.

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