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hello and welcome to across all things considered i'm peter lavelle came to new wing saw how did three people in solitary survive contamination by a military grade nerve agent london has a lot of explaining to do also nikki haley goes off the rails again what exactly is a normal country. across talking a world in crisis i'm joined by my guest mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have victoria levitt he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and we have dmitri bob he is a political analyst with sputnik international a gentleman as always crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate victor let me go to you first here using the word saga is an understatement here. bring us up to speed what's going on with this lead . the poisoning incident in the u.k.

so what has happened this week first of all near oculus lee all the victims so-called victims of this poisoning have come back to full most. of these people can not only conscious now not only did he come out of a coma but he can speak his daughter. his daughter unit is fine and the well the. chicken to be going to fall she she's fine and the thing is that the fact is that that type of chemical that the accused of russia somehow using against people if that would actually be used they would never be able not only to come out of a corner but they would they would not be alive to the second of all the british government denies that these are the quest from people's nice to come and visit. and his daughter in london you would want to do yes and one of the reasons given by

the british authorities was that they. have enough money maybe she would want to stay in britain or they don't have a lot of polish plumbers of course and to top it off. because of several hours ago news came out that the united states is considering taking cityscape and. to its witness protection program certainly in a sort of an alleged crime happened in the u.k. and they're getting witness protection in the unit in the us and that he isn't going on that he isn't given the official isn't given is that the united states would be the best place to prevent further isolation attempts against him is good but i think that the probably the best place will never find out exactly when there's a point on these people mark do we know that it's said again you want to go to the united states can they be compelled to go to the united states will we ever see them in front of a microphone where we. will you ever be able to visit her family in russia again

just like jeremy corrigan peter the only reason that you would question any of this is because that you are attacking the united kingdom as part of the russian spin machine that is that is what the british labor party leader jeremy corcoran was accused of doing by the british foreign minister just a little truth is not a priority here if we deem it right well i know the truth is not of importance and i think basically you are all needing what happened there was not always indeed was a tag against the united kingdom by the russian president figuration president ulan of chemical weapons and mark is right you know there is a comedian romance in russia you know you describe i was questioned by the british police. noticed an eighteen wheeler to a bar you know before go into that had to the key when or one of the versions that the poison was in that block wheat that was brought to screen and he is on his

order from russia so you know the police are asking did you notice anything which you said nothing special just when they went to buy this block of the nearby store there was putin in person send it to me because that was the only weird thing that i noticed it was kind of strange you know there actually you know it's we can make jokes about that but the implications of the story are immense and it is of lack of legitimacy in the british government to tell the truth there actually are victims in this saga first of all it's the perhaps there is a cat that's that there's a guinea pig that they want to skip over that but the real victim is the relationship between russia and the west and the british authorities have obviously chosen route of confrontation with russia they are going they're willing to go to to accuse russia without any evidence not present any evidence in the court or in front of the international community to go it blinking going to use of force.

doing jim for though in the rule of law the presumption of innocence innocence before proven guilty and we're going through the the right to dissent it has to be said that the pets died not because of some mysterious nerve agent but because the british government killed them cremated doesn't act with the right to sue for whatever reason them yes it was recovered and because we don't have a fifteen minute memory here let's let's recall that we were told that they were the british soil was attacked by a military grade nerve agent a secret soviet military grade nerve agent that just happened to be on a british spy drama earlier in the last year that is ten times more powerful than the vx military grade that we were told the new york times called it the nerve agent to deadly to use right the telegraph said we should just let them die anybody sometimes and come to like it was right we but we have an explanation for

this because of in public all ears because who is purported to be a chemical weapon and security expert he came up with all kinds of reasons why they could have survived they could have been wearing gloves all three of them it could have been raining it wasn't. it and they could have washed their hands afterwards and magically the nerve agent just disappeared this is you know this technology is really off now you just can't kill the whole of each day but also religion are you sure it is a good night's sleep it was washing your hands. the military's create all different kinds in qualities of nerve agent so not only did the russian government commit an attack on a retired old swapped a spy who had already served time in prison and off the record i mean any party had been squeezed by the f.s.b. and had been squeezed by you know not only did they kill him with a super. secret soviet nerve agent that would point to

a glowing trail back to russia but they did it with a sob lethal dose all three of them survived to this is what we are supposed to leave with you could destroy the conclusion that this was a publicity stunt to drive a certain agenda and many of those engineers are on the failure of the me government to deal with briggs it. the failure of her own policies among the population as far as public opinion polls and being able to use the they try to tried in on. that always want to we want to talk about a spin machine let's talk about this mission with boris johnson all right when he still lost it all forty second interview he still is really not that at least in the army were given to the public in the world and say that it was certainly attributed to russia by the porton down scientists who then later contradicted this that was not a lie though that was he misspoke it was

a mistake if he exaggerated slightly it was an. overstatement or a gaffe just take your choice that is the spin machine. i'll take he's incompetent indeed you know the problem was that i do very well as your son said that he knew that these weapons were made in russia and that this was made or imprisoned which is all that he expressed explicitly who threw it down to the border tree he said that they told him to guy the guy told him right and it was simply just a brutal liable to see and then they had to delete that tweet yes that's one of the it has to do anything with their own tweet us to over up what they said also what happened when the destroy the new molds when they didn't come to their calls for several days because the guinea pigs died of starvation while you know you had a police officer standing next to the door for a number of days and he never had. to the poisoned exactly i don't know if that is

not if that is not put in with the evidence then would else he said we have to find out what happened. we don't know the official version according to the secret eventually becomes public knowledge but when that eventuality will happen whether it was a ten years from now is it twenty years from now is it fifty years from now is a big question there is a little footnote to this the british are actually seeing they never apply used in the n.t. do it to the so-called know each of their so they keep thinking. they came back to life for a moment i was there with me and i said well how did i have to define the antidote exactly. why they're saying they didn't use the internet because he thought the kevin into that they would have to produce new york and they're claiming that it never came out that we don't know what happened here and we may never know right because no real evidence the only evidence we have is is from the out regis lies of the we believe it will go to the receiving poison be the exact credible story i

have read moon of alabama blog says that the effects of sea food poisoning act very much like a nerve agent like this read it for yourself it's at least more credible than the british government's version of what happened i know what happened because i know what you know the most important thing about the arsenal right stuck was not who personally who was the person it was not the enquirer but compare that you know that it basically brought heat up and leave it to fall back and they can target three in the same way i don't know exactly what happened in salzburg i know with the consequences i know how russia now you know when when russia convened a security council meeting of the united nations britain complained that they didn't wait until the results of the investigation well the u.k. went to the security council first even before the police investigation but in the course of the sphere of public opinion i think they already lost because. what

happened was that the birth of soviet political dogs now these dogs i love that i take against the government of most of the really bad i really am going against the element in but in america and in britain let me just quote that you know the most hilarious one of the most recent one is you know there is a may is reported to be raped in london so they reported to. us to the officer who said that i have only one question am i the only suspect or is it the whole russian peterman he said i think what it's like the independent said it best in their editorial the headline whether we can prove moscow's involvement in the script bookcase or not is irrelevant the poisoning is severing russians relations with the west i couldn't said it better myself ok we're going to continue because we're going to a short break gentlemen we're not short break we'll continue our discussion on some real news station with r.t. .

zia says harlan kentucky. the voices in the foreground story. a coma and he said he was almost no coal mines left. the jobs are gone all the coal mines are said i'd. love to see these people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here and that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years. see that and it's how it's happened.

welcome back to cross talk were all things considered i'm peter remind you we're discussing some real news. ok gentlemen i want to finish up the first block here you summed it up really well mark at the end of the first part of the program and i want to us all three of you where do we go from here mark they they can't back down from this right there if they back down from this the british government would fall and they can't let that happen because that would likely mean jeremy corbin's election and that is what the british. and the you know the whole foreign policy elite fear most is jeremy corbyn the labor party leader being elected so they've got to get more outrageous with their lies and i have a suggestion the satirical website put stiliyan headline british police find

putin's passport at scene of selous berry poison attack and i mean considering the number of passports that terrorists and everyone else of laying around so why not why don't why not why not where do we go from here mark is right they can't and they will not back down and one way for them to go forward is another even more significant even more dangerous provocation against russia so there may be another act they believe on russia whether it's in the united states or in great britain you know you could hear these words we're talking about here are you going to measure session where she said. what happens if there is an attack in new york city the way you will just organize something like that and then blame it on russia with no evidence at all well they've proven you can get away with it exactly the precedent well for me the main problem the main question is how will russia react until now has. always in these embarrassing situations for them he always left the

door open for them he always let them save face you know the lies about iraq which you never raised it off after the war rate. yugoslavia which was supposed to be justified by at least one hundred thousand course of obedience dept you know that turned out to be a lie they never found the graves but russia allowed them to see and to get i'll do it with it now i hope russia will crash on it because you know just like they say don't lead foot and get away with it well putin has nothing to do with it but now the question is will russia let them get away with it now if it does then it will continue and it's not a problem of interstate relationship it's a problem or a do or ideological fight now there is a very aggressive new ideology which unites the united states the european union the u.k. and i'm less interested to know it will get more than once what i introduced this

program is a world in crisis here nikki haley's name is already been brought up here i mean i obviously like to make fun of her you know i've said many times that she has advanced degrees and in a hillbilly studies i still believe that but you know she had some very fiery words from a cheap diplomat it's quite scary russia will never be america's friend moscow can try to behave like a regular country but the us will quote slap them when we need to react to that victor that's the chief diplomat from the united states going at the united need to things here first of all what that should mean by being a regular country should absolutely that's why i want to do this a regular country is a country that tipped to those to washington that follow us tells us that does what essentially says what it tells them to do what it would that is them to do and that is incest think you might do that with russia should be more like that netherlands and f. . and of course russia has my sort of foreign policy just like just like iran just

like venezuela or cuba it is exactly these countries that have their own view of the world that they have their own for in the way that want the friendship with me but then they all want to ems that even the american foreign policy establishment so much from nikki haley to john bolton to be a lot about john bolton on this program but you know what it's very interesting is that we have another round of sanctions came about we have this whole affair in the in the u.k. and we have nikki haley we have john bolton coming in but this seems very well organized to me and i think that would have to say in the first part of the program is that you know now we have a precedent now we can see more of these shenanigans being played out to drive a specific agenda yeah and the latest this with these latest sanctions against russian oligarchs and companies as as they call them

a handful that they say are close to putin first of all putin is probably just and a lot of the russian people most of the russian people are just saying thank you thank you for pressuring and scaring our you know all of our such as it is into repatriating their wealth back to the motherland rather than spending it in new york or london and we're really happy with that but you know the most hilarious and ironic thing about all of this is that russia's all of dark back in the day when they really existed were created and celebrated by the bill clinton administration in russia right that whole you know we saved we got boris yeltsin elected you know there's you know so these these these latest sanctions really again are quite toothless the intention is that they can force what they call all of darks to overthrow putin in a coup this is been the liberal hope predator is knowing they can't win elections.

they're trying a policy you know that's right do you have liberals they can't win elections and then you double down on policies they don't have any why did you not have a relation because this is what the foreign policy experts on russia in the west who fundamentally mis understand russia all of those russian soldier back of a postage stamp who got rid of the oligarchs and leashed them to the power of the state that's why there aren't any oligarchy sports that likes it jeff bezos or unlike ukraine or she fortunately we're. not going to have a couple of points i think that basically of these sanctions today is that was published today it is the more extensive in terms of effect because the really reach people are included you know. bear that had over and over company which is huge you know. they had basel which is just about all russia's metohija but i think the mistake that they're making is that they basically spread these sanctions list and spread it to almost one hundred percent of russia's reach people so it looks

like last drug or now if you want to really saw discord between the russian rich people then take fifty percent impose sanctions on them then maybe you know you will have a split but the problem is that the sanctions on the board of them across the board i did they do it because american foreign policy is actually fed by profoundly wrong information there is no such science now as russian studies it is on feet it's all ideologist they dia that they have is that draw she is wrong by a bunch of capitalists you know tied to the president and they have no base in society that looks very much like the russia of the ninety s. which they liked and we. believe it was a little bit like russia to them it's a reflection of much like that all of their projects to be in the world view of the american elites russia was when it was a monarchy russia was bad when it was run. by the bolsheviks and the communists in

russia as bad when it's run by capitalists so the conclusion from this is that it's not it doesn't matter who russia is run by but russia itself is better but not socialist group when it was designed to grow it was hard to hear but you're not you . know it was the markets that you know the foreign policy lead in the west they project all of their. real sins projected upon russia russia is. a normal country what kind of normal country is and isn't what may seven major conflicts around the world without any kind of international mandate breaking international law on a regular basis was a function of the military then we're going to get to know themselves to be a normal kind of a cancer consider themselves to be an exceptional country as one of us think of exceptional country and all the rest must listen and the us doesn't want russia to be like them or god forbid they want russia to be like the other sorry. you want to russia to meet them alone to if you like your grade because an exactly errors have

been around the edges even in the now and they're the ones that last week you had the parliament castigating anti russian propaganda group called e.u. vs design fault for what for taking the dutch media for publishing news from russia calling it fake news the dutch parliament to the belt and they said that these people from their basically a government financed universities in full that they have no right to pass a judgement on what the dutch media is reporting whether it's fake news or not so the netherlands is too good you know ukraine or maybe maybe i'm a dog or maybe a poor and that would be the right way for russia in their minds but they will you know that it's never going to happen yes it's never good at it ok or not is it keep trying you know i think only said russia will never be america's friends and we will have to you know slap them around in order to mark because. and you know when

we do the united states the united states is going to have united states international. path to be friends. have to be friends but they don't have to be enemies ok notice that you know who cares about the term friends when you're talking about geopolitics also say it's nonsense throughout the years even though in soviet times even in the seventy's in the sixty's in the eighty's ninety's the thousands whether it's putin or british or what you or who are and group of or yeltsin russia has never another single russian leader in the past fifteen years have sad that. russia does not want to be friends with america and that i mean i have an enemy never because in reality moscow wants to have a good relationship with america moscow doesn't want to have a confrontational relationship with washington a confrontation of washington brings nothing good to russia or to these and it's all to mainly an exam question or to the united states and one kid to what mark had said that by the e.p. three resources of capital from great britain to back to russia of course some

resources. are going to be repatriated to russia or to other markets but the british so you out the last several decades have shown themselves to be thieves. they do they will not do this or that bridge the governorship yes they will the new way of well who is investing there was resources who is putting that money in those banks they knew it when those accounts were opened they knew it when there was an investment of billions of dollars were made they knew it all the value is in there and you hear us so it was not it was not an surprise to them not to miss now what they're going to do that not just going to allow it to be repeated back to russia what they're going to do is they're going to i rested seize these resources and and who knows how they're going to use it because we already have from the experience with libya and with iran we know that billions of dollars that were in the sixty's it may have simply disobeys in the racket hang on the last twenty seconds of us i think you know their compensation that there will be. and the russian leaders are

all and their quote elation that the russian people will rebel against their reach is also wrong and let me just remind everyone every time when people tried to confiscate all the property from the rich people in the u.k. in russia it never made poor people it never produced if we're in the point there are many thanks to my guest here in moscow this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember. pranking gave americans a lot of new job opportunities i needed to come up here to make some money i could make twenty five thousand dollars as a teacher or i could make fifty thousand dollars a year truck so i chose to drive truck people rushed to

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