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why you are she's a she's unsure you anything but was it scaremongering he talks about scaremongering in wales i'm just pointing out the facts and i want to. know. and that's why we do you see that's what we do see people in wales often trying actually to get treatment in england rather than rather than in wales people the dying said corbin people are dying because of overcrowding and long waits in our hospitals i think the prime minister should get a grip on it and ensure the n.h.s. now has the money that it needs to deal with the patient the monds and then corbin referenced everyone's favorite scientist stephen hawking who died this week we started with professor stephen hawking and he said just a few months ago there is. there is overwhelming evidence that any chance funding and the number of doctors and nurses are in adequate and it's getting worse
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does she agree with professor hawking there was no answer for him to resume about one of britain's best known scientists she had science on the mind though or revenge based on science one assumes britain would within hours veto the un resolution to investigate the atrocity in the south west of england well to take a better look at the russian threats narrative and how it may now affect the future of a post directed britain i went to the green outside the palace of westminster to talk to a member of britain's house of lords international relations committee lord elf well to take a better look at the russian threat narrative and how it will affect the future of a post directed britain i'm not joined by lord valve member of the international relations committee of the house of lords and former member of the european parliament. thanks for being on the green outside parliament twenty three russian diplomats being chucked out of the country in the next few days your reaction to tourism is statement. i. i can't see what it looks chief i mean what it will
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achieve is presumably twenty three british diplomats will be thrown out of russia some say more than maybe. but so the asians have no choice everyone is saying in the house behind us because she has the evidence that the kremlin ordered an atrocity in england. well let's see i mean what i have no two stories these apparently the russian authorities of oste need with the investigation to be given some samples of the nerve agent and that's been refused now that doesn't seem to me like trying to solve the problem there in this was very clear that there was security considerations as to why she cannot reveal certain bugs the information just as in the public inquiry regarding the atrocity in mayfair in central london the p.m.a. six by live in anchor but how on earth that we got ourselves into this position.
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that's the first question we should be also we have the evil putin regime is how we got it well as i was in we have some more who was exchanged came to live in britain he's living openly under he's not even a house in seoul he's apparently meeting british secret service agencies the first thing i say he's had they not yet he briefed you know what he's going all of these all sorts of things that just don't add up but there has to be a consensus in the us a logs in the corridors of power there that about this that the security services are telling the prime minister that. clearly something has to be done against the largest country on earth. something probably does have to be done but he only has to be done because reports on selves into the situation and what we now proposing to do is to reduce the opportunities for the two countries to work together and we seem to be forgetting that britain has a long. so of business interests in russia. what would the reaction be here if
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there presumably would be some russian retaliation if they said well we'll have some sanctions against british business where do we end up with this we don't gamed up in a good place and also we don't yet know what the full facts of this case saw apart from the fact that anyone who tried to poison is obviously no pretty competent because they failed obviously some ascribe the popularity of levy putin in russia to being someone who dragged in public to crack down on the oligarchs who stole all the money from the russian people and you do presumably back the measures being taken to freeze assets and that's where they're freezing the assets in london and then giving it to the russian people do welcome those policies i think clearly the . seniors in particular would read from the russia and a lot of money went out of the country that belongs to the russian people and one
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can only support a government which attempts to turn that around i would be more impressed if that had been laid to the british and russian governments cooperating about money which so huge amounts in london. concerned are standing there isn't going to be any go operation whether it be a magnitsky act or whatever in terms of repasts treating money that's been stolen from russia. or magnitsky act is actually cooperation that's not how many people would be for certainly. but you know it just strikes me that we're getting ourselves into more more of a difficult corner and that we really have to have some dialogue and i know that i'm popular particularly in the you know parliament but in the end you have to talk . to one of the lessons of international diplomacy. in the end this problem will
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have to be unscrambled in the end we will have to talk and that is for the good of both countries so you're not a popular law if you do support terrorism am there cancelling the visit of the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov to britain. counts he was equally key but willing to give me a lot of reviews are highly experienced polished diplomat and actually a pretty good foreign minister i mean well it's britain showing that he's not welcome here. ok so what we say you're not welcome to talk if frankly far is the prime minister i'd be saying i hope he will soon come because we need some very frank dialogue about what he's going wrong in the relations between our two countries. and clearly if there was a poison attempt something has gone badly wrong and the russian state is one of the british state needs to get to the both what's happened aside from the geopolitical
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context and the atrocity in saul's re obviously your own the house of lords international relations committee and you mentioned business how will worse relations with russia affect breaks in britain is difficult sorry to be quite honest we can only speculate at the moment but it's hardly going to make the russian government feel more co-operative towards helping british business experiment in russia and presumably the brits are going to do the same to the russians so it's not going to help. this great open trade agreement that we're searching for. and why why do you think those considerations are not to the fore. because some would say that there is a separation here given that russia trades obviously a great deal with the european union with so much of europe's energy coming from russia we seem to have got. sold into
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a great big stand off position and it doesn't make sense i mean you know to see it i mean germany and gazprom are cooperating quite well in energy supply to europe and i was tend to think that if you talk to people you're going to get further than if you. nature somewhere predictably immediately said they support your resume the white house what do you make of their reaction more contemporary today too busy second people where all right i mean even before the sagging in late zero eight secretary of state believing do you think that in washington they realize relations with russia are more important than immediate reactions. difficult at the moment called russian american relations you know the state department is in chaos frankly there are a huge number of vacancies there you've had the last year with the secretary of state and the president basically each other's throats and it's difficult to see
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the united states is being a very credible foreign policy player a moment and then many in the palace of westminster that we're expecting to resume to attack this station on t.v. surprised or about the fact that she didn't ban this channel in britain and the fact or shut it down very sensible of i mean i've never believed in shutting down the press i had a long long time dealing with turkey i'm sorry to the turkish authorities let them say what they want to say you know in the open because if you drive it underground you were killed it will still be there but i think it's fundamentally wrong to baron or agent of the free press but of course the statutory regulator of call has been clear that it is listening all the time to what is being said at the dispatch box as to whether the. should review the license of the channel. is
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that will not a period of free speech that's what they say and i hope thank you you're not doing thank you ok thank you very much now after the break. for rex tillerson concert i very much specific service and i wish him well. the firing of his secretary of state rex tillerson because of russia and to resume we speak to award winning role for in rolling stone journalist matt tybee and andrew pierce the daily mail's consulting editor writes off jeremy corbett even though they just opinion polls show you the odds on favorite to be britain's next prime minister all of them all coming up to him going underground.
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pranking gave americans a lot of job opportunities i needed to come up here to make some money like me twenty five thousand dollars as a teacher or i could make fifty thousand dollars a year truck so i chose to drive trucks people who rushed to a small town in north dakota was an unemployment rate of zero percent like the gold rush is very very similar to a gold rush but this beautiful story ended with pollution and devastation a lot of people have left here i don't know too many people here anymore slow down so much they lost their jobs got laid off the american dream is changing that's not what it used to be. and that's a tough reality to deal with. when trying to deconstruct all these manipulated by cut salaries showing the world that. is there
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really anything peaceful religion and it's possible to be a practicing muslims who believe that the koran is the word of god and at the same time and member of a secular society it is possible. for a world cup twenty eighteen coverage we've signed one of the greatest goalkeepers of all but there was one more question and by the way who's going to be our coach. guys i know you are nervous he's a huge star and the huge amount of pressure you have to the center of the beach but how would you. agree. you are the rock at the back nobody gets past you we need you to get down there we have to go. alone. and i'm really happy to join for the thousand in the world cup in russia.
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the special one was also appreciated me to say the review team's latest edition to make up a bigger. welcome back well the stakes could arguably never be higher and what some are already predicting could turn into a nuclear confrontation between britain and russia no wonder some might argue that they believe a german call been a seeking to decrease tensions whilst applying stringent sanctions of those who have stolen money from the russian taxpayer but that's not the way some see it from the makers of the most visited english language newspaper website in the world joining me now is andrew pearce consulting editor of the daily mail. welcome back what did you make of today's amaze speech and jeremy corbin's response to these amazing very boring speak she doesn't often get complete command of the consequence chamber but i thought statement this week was magisterial. by her standards she had
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the commons with her she is a former home secretary so she was able to draw on her experience as being and responsible for security and terror and the leader of the opposition was shameful it was an embarrassment because the leader of the opposition has a job in my view to be supportive in a time of national crisis to sound at least vaguely patry optic instead he was peevish turn ish and in failing to condemn the state of russia for what is perceived to be a russian act he showed himself to be according to some of his own side on the wrong side of the argument and it was made worse by the briefing after the statement by his press secretary seamus milner seamus miller's got for he's been to russia at the expense of peter literally and he's a great supporter of the state of russia and he elaborated us to what i call been refused to accept that russia is responsible and he peddled out that lie used by
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the russian embassy that britain should actually give over a sample of the nerve agent so the russians can test it oh great idea what are they going to said back to the russian embassy and get some scientists to test test it and then they'll say go it has nothing to do with us you know ridiculous idea russians are saying there is under o.p.c. w treaty that they have to do that danielle is not twenty four hour deadline but let's just get back to the cold war literally a gold war is a cold because in the next twenty four hours plus buds of britain already probably feeling that there's a cold snap russia's response could literally be to flick off a switch and stop british shows being heated and then lit is that a price worth paying the fact is we don't have enough gas it is running out and we buy some of our gas from russia it's been a matter of great concern in number ten not just under this government under the previous government and putin could do that i suppose but of course russia needs our money too. and they need to sell the gas to us because they need the cash bill
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bell from the first of this show is saying we need partners in a post rex it world i know the european union has come to help in this time of defacto war with russia presumably both brics that we're not going to have any great trade deals only with russia and its allies maybe even its brics allies in the in the rest of the world we will be it will be announced next week that britain as part of the brics it process can start negotiating trade to us that's a huge change by the european union it's a big win for trees amazing to go she just wants law school in beijing or together well we will be doing trade deals with china we'll be doing traitors with the united states i suspect we will be doing a trade deal with that me putin anytime soon but then our trade with russia isn't huge in any case but the idea was it's supposed to grow well with other countries that will it will grow with other countries and will russia no just not russia as well unless of course russia comes to its senses and stops assassinating or trying
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to assassinate people on british soil loads of people aboard about international politics in this country and don't really care one way or the other of course they care about the tragedy of a british police officer and so forth is that way to resume could never have said that the england squad can't go to mosque and i think it's not inconceivable that that made position may change so so far the prime minister has said no member the royal family will go prince william is president of the football association in this country a job i imagine he loathes because we all know he can't stand for much happier on the polo pitch old chap but he won't be going no officials to be going so i'm sure that to me peter will be devastated that the sports minister tracey crowd would be terrified by that is camilla also bowls as well but there is talk of the possible that they could be the end of may not go and it would be it people say you can't involve sport politics hang on. british prime ministers were heavily involved in trying to. get the world cup to britain but russia won the bid with the help of mr
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blatter who of course is suspended from international football for corruption. and it is hugely significant and i suspect there's a possibility even now that we may not go to the world cup because. it's going to be tarnished that would mean those in marine you know the local manager who are just taking on to do commentary that might be a mistake what do you think about the fact that people like him are told not to appear on this channel and indeed m.p.'s from both sides of the house who are so keen to appear all of them some of them even saying we should be shut down as well i completely disagree with the idea that. we're disintegration network quickly and i was in for putin britain is a haven for free speech we're just a few hundred yards from the mother of all parliaments and if people don't like russia today or they don't like its output don't watch it but do not close it down off come to my understanding i've got no problems with the output and it would just
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be churlish frankly andrew pierce thank you well it's been quite a week for u.k. u.s. relations mainstream us commentators were quick to assume donald trump firing of his secretary of state rex tillerson via a tweet was connected to tillotson support for tourism a in her war with russia hopes of a detour into there would soon be dashed as trump's un ambassador nikki haley echoed may's attacks on moscow and then washington reportedly introduced new sanctions even before any u.n. investigation of the chemical weapons atrocity in england joining me now from new jersey in the usa is award winning rolling stone journalist and author of insane clown president matt taibbi in math welcome back to the show i'm going to start actually with the fact that the russian federation has warned britain not to threaten a nuclear power how do you characterize relations from between britain and russia regardless of america and russia. i'm in. the nuclear doomsday clock because right
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now at an all time low or at it's i think it's the equivalent right now is that one thousand nine hundred fifty two levels and hasn't been this low since one thousand fifty two this is an extremely perilous time in the relationships between the west and russia. i think there is a variety of factors that are that are going into the danger zone one of these is the situation going on in one with the poisoning incident but just as serious as the situation in syria when we have. u.s. troops and russian you know contract mickie on the other side of the euphrates river. we have a lot of sort of bombastic talk by leaders on all sides about nuclear capabilities the new states. and the little girl level of and the.
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russian sentiment you know particularly in the united states is is at a place at a place where i haven't seen it in my lifetime and i you know i can remember the reagan years during the when he was talking about the evil empire and then after the shooting down of k a seventh so this is. the we're in an unprecedented place right now the british politicians in palm and with a few honorable exceptions some of them are saying we now need to launch a site of cyber attack on russian institutions and all manner of other levels of response and that russia is a rogue state so it will not respond to reason and i don't understand i mean i do understand look there are a lot of political. angles to this story. there are things that are going on that have always gone on these two countries have zero. as
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meddled in huge numbers the shares there of zero is there have always been. games back and forth between russia and england and russia in the united states you know there was an excellent book written by one of your countrymen the called the great game that details this activity dating back to the late seventy's hundreds early to hundreds i lived in russia in one in the ninety's when the united states openly meddled. in boris yeltsin's reelection campaign there was a cover of time magazine after after yeltsin won reelection there were the it's a picture of yeltsin and the headline of the yanks to the rescue because we had advisors american advisors to reporting directly to bill clinton. who were aiding yeltsin in that victory and this is just part of the way of use. the countries are operated toward each other forever we've always been interested in each other's
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affairs i think the difference is now that there's a political angle towards demonization of russia that is inspiring some politicians in the west in england and in america to make up a public issue out of this in a way that they had they would now be floor that they wouldn't have have. sated. such a heated situation in the past over what essentially is a domestic political aim to scare people into you know being a certainly politically to town lotty america is of course had to register as a foreign agent from this the nazi era act don't trump tweet a lot about mainstream media but he seems unable to ban it using your version of off come the f.c.c. . surprised that in britain the prime minister can say things and they immediately
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the regulator will take steps. or talk about steps in closing down the television station one of the benefits of the american system media. is we've we've gone quite a long time in our history without really having a strong official national. media regulator we do have the f.c.c. they did play an important role in the formation of t.v. and radio stations with a couple of key laws in the late twenty's early thirty's there was the communications act of thirty four. there the federal radio commission in one thousand twenty seven also had some things to say about what radio station should be but for the most part there is no regulator for
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print media and the communications regulator is a very very weak one in the united states which for most of us in the press we've long considered to be a good thing then that the government mostly stays out of our business. you know for it to take the step of forcing our teats or register as a foreign agent understand our opens the door for an incredible. amount of the abuse that could be directed at almost any kind of foreign news agency in the future and i think that's in an huge mistake. and i'm not thrilled with the decision to to retaliate against r.t.e. and britain either i think this is similar to the decision that they made with the olympics in one nine hundred eighty you if you have a political issue with a country you don't go after sports you don't go after the me. you you take more
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serious diplomatic measures not typing thank you. i hope you enjoyed that episode of going underground for my latest season will be back on the eleventh of april for a brand new season of going underground but you can still keep in touch with us while we're away on facebook twitter and instagram season. about your sudden passing i've only just learned you worry yourself and taken your last to bang turn. your act caught up to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry honey i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these
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things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met in my life turned on each breath. but then my feeling started to change you talked about war like it was a cave still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our art. and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral the same as one enters the mind gets consumed with death this one quite different person i speak to you now because there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met its maker. the slowness of the mood of them simone. who feel good news over local was before. much of those who heard the reviewer must never see him with nor we will we will.
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