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we're back on after time to see and you're watching the first episode of a brand new season of going underground as israel stands accused of conducting air strikes on syria and killing more wounding thousands in palestine coming over the show twenty years to the week of the signing of an agreement to lay down british and ira arms in the knowledge the p.l.o. haywood speaks to us about one you with the right to fall for those maintaining teresa mayes grip on power and with u.k. labor leader jeremy call been calling for an inquiry into arms sales to israel after it kills all thousands in palestine the grandson of a signatory to the israeli independence we go and read talks to us about injustice
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the story of the holy land foundation five plus from this week's headlines war on syria the shooting unarmed civilians by israel and palestine told us more coming up in this first episode of a brand new season of going underground but first while we have been away it is arguably become obvious teresa mayes case against russia is falling apart could only russia really have been responsible for attacks on british spies scruple and his daughter no one is still really given a satisfactory explanation for this statement from the boss of britain's top secret chemical warfare lab after foreign secretary boris johnson claimed porton down told him russia was responsible for the chemical attack on british soil we haven't yet been able to do that and of contradicting boris johnson who still remains foreign secretary at the time this show is being recorded isn't bad enough there was this it's not our job and see where actually was manufacturing job many thought it was exactly bought and downs o.p.c. don't. remit to find out where the chemical was manufactured after that interview
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the u.k. foreign office deleted a tweet alleging porton down support for the certainty of tourism is government but then the even the n.h.s. hospital treating this cripples had to be bounced by a russian t.v. channel into admitting that the deadliest of nerve agents could actually not be deadly at all following intense media coverage yesterday i would like to take this opportunity to update you on the condition of the two remaining patients being treated at salisbury district hospital. last thursday i informed the condition had improved to stable. as yulia herself says her strength is improving daily and she can look forward to the day when she's well enough to leave hospital and now some in britain a queering way recovery from this year's strain of flu is slower than recovery from novacek anyway britain is now more focused on bizarre claims of alleged chemical
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use by the syrian government even though previous claims have long been debunked before today's news w m d claims it already bounced israel into another defacto violation of the un charter let's begin with. israel now blamed for a series of airstrikes against syria an air base attacked early this morning hours after one of the worst chemical attacks chemical attacks in history yes israel being blamed for what tony blair and his rump of the british labor party in the palace of westminster want the u.k. to do bomb syria and destroy president assad secular government which is winning the war against british backed extremists on the ground extremists who wish to do harm on the streets of europe not that britain is only aiding groups like the white helmets linked to al qaeda british soldiers are also risking their lives against islamist apparently the british man was a member of the s.a.'s he is the first soldier to be killed as a result of enemy action in the fight against islamic state yes in the past few days the. british people discovered that there are u.k.
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boots on the ground in syria on the same side as the assad government defacto but then the s.e.'s has always been a british regiment shrouded in secrecy feigns belfast west m.p. and westminster reference their actions of thirty years ago well this program they are not armed individuals as individuals were shot dead on the straits of gibraltar and i think it was a terrible tragedy a terrible time in the history of art and but those legacy issues dismissed by juries amaze coalition partners as condoning terrorism let alone the collapse of the power sharing mandated by the good friday agreement signed twenty years ago this week i'm not the only human rights issues the people of have to contend with joining me now is tory peer lord a would who would thank you so much for being on the shows away from the legacy issues the. end of storm one you've been campaigning and putting this nation through the house of lords about human rights of a different could introducing it we hope we'll get it through the house of lords all the eyes of commons but more likely initially in the house of lords and that's
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to make legislation in relation to same sex marriages in northern ireland exactly the same as it is in england scotland if there isn't equality you know it's a devolved matter and as long as it was devolved it should have been dealt with by belfast but we don't have a devolved assembly at the moment and we don't know how long we can appear without one so called him again in the commons and myself in the eyes of boards decided it was appropriate that we should introduce a same sex marriage bill what is the point then if it is a devolved issue then of doing this in westminster we're posting all sorts of northern irish legislation at the moment we had a debate just before easter and paul stood although not on budget because there isn't the capacity to do that in belfast so nothing could be dealt with in belfast all those powers are currently with us and we believe that it is actually right that the same sex marriage bill should be introduced and passed through the eyes of parliament it would leave it to one side to twenty years ago on tuesday the good friday agreement was signed in any way is. home rule is westminster is really
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northern ireland. to raise a maze defacto coalition vetoed a vote in any case it's dormant i understand there was a vote for equality it was on the table and it could or could to progress and it's a decision for belfast if there is a belfast parliament but you can't then complain that something is being dealt with in westminster but say oh but we are the need other matters dealt with in westminster so yes some of the people in the d.p. i don't think oh don't reflect the overwhelming views of northern irish people which is that they want to reflect the beliefs of their constituent of a certain group of people but all the polling shows that the vast majority of people in northern ireland hold a view which is in line with the views of the english the scots and the welsh to their way has the d.b.'s chief whip wise is poured cold water on the bill saying that there's little prospect of it getting through parliament talking about the house of commons the lords procedure is a slightly different and we can start bill in the eyes of lords in
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a way that you can't in the calm of the commons would never vote it down today actually pretty well with the bill the indications i've had is that in the lords there is very strong broad cross party support for introducing the bill in the lords if it gets through the lords that would send a very clear message to the commons and i think it's unlikely that it would be voted on in the commons they'd be strong support there already was when quantum again introduced his equivalent bill in the commons there were people from all sides sponsoring the bill they're welcoming the legislation and that was true in the eyes of lords when i introduced the bill as well of course we've come a long way since close to eighty eight but isn't it a fact that to raise a may who's only prime minister because of the alliance with a d.v.d. could be using her good offices to tell the d.p. you help lord heywood's bill she's not going to do that because she wouldn't be prime minister i think you made a rush assumption that she's only there because of the day you pay with the
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conservatives are the largest party in the commons no overall majority overall majority in the largest party and more importantly. people in the d.p. know what the position is they know what my position is and if the lord's is the registration i think they'll recognize what the position is in the commons as well you think she could do more to support the rights she's done a lot she's been very very keen on advancing more women more community people in terms of and also minority racial groups incredible change taking place on historically she personally always has been yes she has made it all along and so yeah i think we'll we'll we're making progress not as much as i'd like but we'll gather because you are on the record as saying that she trashed the brand of the tories. do you expect me to be the end of may no you know local election only don't i i think in terms of the local elections teresa mayes in
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a much stronger position now you than she was a few weeks back a few months back the general perception amongst the media or the political commentators is that her position is now i clearly secure whatever happens at a local election point i mean when you say. no there is a representative i go to the i have to say you're also a member of the lords political polling in digital malcolm is he often described as one of the tories top pollsters do you think she'll do ok then in london i think we'll lose control of a number of bars in london i've said so it's on the record but governing parties who have been in power is ministering austerity for eight years generally a lot further behind the neck and neck if we were talking about a government being eight ten fifteen percent behind in the polls that wouldn't be surprising we're actually talking about a government which is neck and neck with the labor party at the moment you believe the polls. i proved them wrong on a number of occasions i think they're pretty close to being accurate at the moment it's neck and neck i mean you predicted breck's it accurately ahead of certainly
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the commentary yet i say this program while completed did did quite well why didn't the bulls go to write this i think the response is that i've got the difference between me and many of the pollsters is that i actually do go canvassing i enjoy canvassing i enjoy hearing what people's views are on the doorstep but also you know you talk to your political opponents privately and they'll tell you what the blairites in the house of government. people who know me know i'll talk to anybody but the commons in the loads not as politically divided as many people may imagine so you talk about things like you bump into people look i'm missing from other parties when you're out there on the streets and you get to fail and even if they. give you the most in a innermost thoughts what they will do is kind of. give an indication of one form or another where you can call in q. coined the term which is no bust into common political parlance of shy tories to explain the ninety nine to two surprise victory of the tories what about shy corbin
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east side in twenty eight i'm not sure they got it completely wrong in the general election in that everybody did and i don't think everyone know everybody there were two out of the major polling companies that did get it approximately like all ministers and i don't believe in shy called least as i think of most people in the labor party who are opposed to the court and they wouldn't suggest that companies desire at all shy i think there were other things other reasons why the polling organization going to do something which in fairness i got wrong as well although the share we call it of course has been on the record for wanting to leave european union up until the referendum and it became leader being reported as saying that tony blair's calls for a break that second record referendum toxic is actually helpful when tony blair starts to call for i think it's seriously unhelpful and i'm speaking here as somebody who was and is a strong remain. the decision was taken in the first referendum but if you look at any measure on opinion polls whether they are dead onal not tony blair is perceived
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as being somebody who support you don't greatly want on the current circumstances on anything i'm probably amongst labor voters in particular and i know the way you got it wrong of course was predicting that trey's i'm a would win a majority if he does a very badly when you see a wipe out in london probably i don't i don't see a white light but i don't see the tories currently hold eight bars of the thirty three i think they are likely to lose three four five which leaves them with virtually none but even then i'd my expectation is that the reason may will be taking a position to continue as prime minister because the reality is that if you are in government for a long period of time in particular if you are ministering or sarah throughout that time you would expect me fall further back than they are at the moment and you agree with coburn that it is a river and a monastery. now. what we're dealing with here is a collection of local authorities votes on local or local services i'm not sure if
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he loses seats in some part of the country and he will say anything about it being a referendum on him i think the labor party will do well but the question is why well would they do better if they had some leader other than jeremy colgan because most of the polls suggest they would do much better if they had a moment or a leader who they would thank you after the break as thousands like dead did in palestine in the past few days the suffering being targeted to the downfall of the holy land foundation five. the drive towards war against syria is unmistakable the pretext is still another alleged chemical attack as usual no evidence is presented as usual conclusions are drawn for an independent investigation we live in a very dangerous time. welcome
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back in the past few days the british backed israeli government since palestinians rose up for their so-called but the question arises should charity take mandated b.b.c. banned fundraising in twenty or nine for the people of gaza this is how one labor veteran and mentor of jeremy corbyn responded dying now because of what us authorities are doing to charities a veteran to lead grandson all the signatory to israel's independence story of the holy land foundation five we go welcome back to going underground let's get on to the book what happened in dallas at seven in the morning on the twenty seventh of july two thousand and four well if you can imagine a family families with children at home and summer break everybody sleeping in you know planning for a nice calm day for fifteen to twenty five armed federal agents and the wives the sisters the daughters just you know begging them to hold on while they
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can cover themselves with a head you know get dressed nobody cares the house arrest the fathers in the charge on legislation from bill clinton well they were being charged the bush bill clinton did hamas as a terrorist organization george bush claimed that holy land foundation was giving money to hamas but then neither there was any connection between them now george bush made the announcement after not in the meantime very peripheral or peripheral connection to the organization itself have been charged tried twice convicted and with sentences ranging from fifteen as you just go back a little bit though it was allied to the u.n. the salvation army the red cross even a two to usaid was in from texas for the oklahoma bombing. what is the holy land foundation when i thought of it but they were presenting unbeknownst to them they were presenting a pic of themselves being palestinians and of the palestinian issue in a light that was disturbing the well they're actually terrorists are actually
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giving money to evidence well the evidence game he did was unprecedented in the history of witnesses from israel testified anonymously claiming to the israeli secret police and one an officer was to say that the organizations with which holy land was working in palestine were controlled by hamas even though all the evidence proved otherwise and there was no evidence to show. we don't need the evidence we can smell hamas mistrial the second trial to say the second intifada or understand well they were they were looking after oklahoma city bombing after nine eleven tornadoes floods in the us earth in you name it they were there and they did an excellent job and every penny that they had don't every penny was accounted for labor having to read a telephone number for the proper un disaster an emergency committee charitable donation line for gaza when it was being bought by israel and you imagine that the
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have corrupted us jew process in courts of law well i have my pity but i want to see what they thought because they came into this you know with an and they said to me this after i lost in cannot get a fair trial that the judges were cowards they bend they bend they bend over when the state came back and said this is a muslim saying that they were vetted that they were honest that there was never any directive by the us government that they should work with them because they are hamas and they have never been doesn't evidence that was not allowed by the first government the federal agents the f.b.i. bringing dodgy witnesses and documents they were wrongly to some documents were brought from and the transcripts of the phones that were tapped the conversations that these men had for almost two decades were poorly translated to make them sound . as though they are supporting hamas as though they're calling for the killing of jews which never happened i don't think it's a deterrent for other charities absolutely it is it is completely drained dredger of finance for charity for palestine without a doubt it made an enormous enormous change in the ability to raise money for
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palestinian cause on top of doldrums reduction of oh absolutely the as soon as they were closed down there are reports from gaza showing clearly that this was a disastrous for refugees for poor people in gaza another place in palestine. and i'm going to go through some of this week's headlines we're coming back on before we go to the good news coming out of the middle east let's go to a tack here in britain from. a secure location after discharge from hospital what have you made of this until today now she's out of hospital in reasonably good health or face a press conference because the russians will kill her saying quoting the vienna convention saying that remote location where you find contradictions are not from day one until now there is no coherent narrative alleged chemical attacks are in the news in the middle east let's go to this tweet we obliquely references that oh yeah let's have a look again to our very foolishly do not attack syria if you do many very bad
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things will happen and from that fight the u.s. . syria. underway there is really a grave situation develop what's in the wall and there is an eagerness and readiness aggravate situations from they want to change that balance if you know. why does he not recognize that he doesn't recognize it actually but he's big he's becoming under he's coming under enormous pressure by the if we if we like to the war lobby or the tensions that are all the of aggravation of tensions and the war wild lobby and they are using his personal affairs. this is his personal misconduct his stupidities to isolate him but of the same time syria he's he's again the decisive leader and significantly john bolton or sitting behind him one
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trump threatened to attack syria because israel has already has already this week been bombing syria without any resolution obviously against international law let's go to this room middle east should say prime minister netanyahu giving a speech today on. a yes famous for four make this about the palestinian people but for somebody as an israeli posed for an apartheid state that it has developed into well i'll give you the mainstream media would say there is their own clave that seems to be wiped out seems to be we are over a one and a half million people are there what are they talking about even of hamas controls everything which is not true by the way there are still women children and innocent civilians and journalists i should say palestinian journalists year old father shot dead there is something different this time i want to britain's most senior politicians is an advocate for palestine and for the international and u.n. resolutions let's go to this from here it's generally calling calls for a review of u.k. sales to israel of our gaza border deaths exactly that's
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a huge difference in the semitism everyone left in general in britain have a proud record of fighting fascism and the semitism who stood against anti semitic fascism in britain and the one nine hundred thirty s. whether in the streets of the trade unions leading demonstration or will be labor party standing up to the real fascists and to see might this is the right wing press of britain which stood for fascism for anti semitism this is really a blowing things out of proportion in order to sign and scheme policies and to attack the leadership of the new leadership of the labor party because they fear an independent approach to foreign policy that criticize. this is a trial that does not. assume the united states says let's go to war britain jumps on and follows on goes to war there is a new approach out they are frightened off and they want to isolate this leadership
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of jenin the korban and the labor party for the ramadan thank you. and that's it for the first show this view season will be back on saturday with the british iraqi hip hop artist loci is britain months ten months to the day of the grunfeld catastrophe seen by many to be able to match it of the failures of europe with some children people talk about social media it was the old south wales in one thousand years to the day that the u.k. back nature coalition claimed forces killed seventy cause of an albanians only to admit two days later that the burned bodies identified as refugees were the responsibility of nature itself in a just war in europe in the one nine hundred ninety s. we kill or injure hundreds of thousands. of them said guys the product of google also guides the actions of the employees within a google and they can't stop the algorithm isn't this just like fantasia the disney movie with mickey mouse worry goes to war with the dancing broom and he tries to
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chop it down it creates more dancing from think france a flood within the wizard's palace i mean these are algorithms that are out of fricken control and then ploys within the company can't stop them. from my algorithm who's in charge of the algorithm or the head of google who's running the show. all options are on the table is the only answer given by the white house press secretary to all questions on syria that is after donald trump fires off a series of contradictory tweets first threatening russia but later dialing back his rhetoric. which media reports prime minister theresa may isn't preparing for
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action bordering the u.k. submarines within that missile range of syria. armored police vehicles have moved in to break up an eco camp in western france on a third day of protests officers have been met with violence from activists also.
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