in the media are waiting for the response of course playing into this is also this this very unique american president which tells us via twitter what he plans to do and so everyone is waiting for this attack remember that the last attack by the united states was also not a game changer but more a signal and also here again is a four waiting we're sitting back and waiting for the american response it's not going to be toppling the syrian regime so it's going to be something calculated in the middle we don't know what we don't know when but of course this is the american calculation i wouldn't make a mistake of tying israel into this and also remember that the last attack by israel on t. four had nothing to do with a chemical attack israel is not a global player player as far as being the regional a policeman and we are not carrying out messages by global powers we are looking out for our own interests i personally believe that the timing here was coincidental well colonel as you said we have a very very unusual president in the white house and i personally think that flipping a coin is more reliable than predicting missed

a chance actions but i still wonder after everything that was written and sad and then taken back and done written and sat again gee seeing districts will still follow yes i think it will happen it's clear to me that the american administration will have to fulfill this kind of promise given to their people into the world i think president trump now has it beside strategic and military considerations also the very important consideration of his word of standing by his word remember that he criticized president obama for drawing me a line in the sand or declaring a red line and then not enforcing it he even made made fun of him for this so i think it's very clear now that if president trump said that there is going to be response then it will be i just think that our expectations in a way that this american response will be so severe that it will be a game changer i think this is not the case it will again be messages and very careful calculation by the americans. not to deteriorate into a clash

a direct confrontation with russia but even if it's a targeted strike it's not actually you know a tiny little trifle it's actually a military attack on a sovereign nation don't you think that the us should maybe we are overplaying the danger but don't you think that you are underestimating the significance of all of this because this is not what they are supposed to do just try to your neighbor or another nation across the world militarily i know that these are all dotted on regular bases but this is actually against international law ok again that's not surprised remember that russia is now inside a different country on the invitation of the legitimate the un recognized syrian government understood i'm not even going to argue that issue i'm just saying that shortly countries look out for their interests and like i said completely separated from the israeli case that we can discuss later that has nothing to do with this issue i think the americans for instance if they decide to take out installations that specifically have to do with chemical weapons i think all mankind would agree

that that is a positive thing to do because using chemical weapons to all mankind is considered a serious violation of international law of our basic morals so again i'm that's what i'm giving recommendations to the united states i'm just saying i can truthfully understand why the united states with their global responsibilities and their interest in the middle east will want to signal to the a fraud regime that these red lines are serious now colonel i take it from your comments that you fully subscribed to the version of assad's culpability in this so horrendous attack and i wonder if you're basing your conclusions on the promise of his irrationality heem being evil but still pursuing pragmatic goals or perhaps on the contrary human being totally and suicidal emad very good question trying to figure out leaders in the region is extremely complicated i'm going to say that i gave up completely but it's extremely complicated as far as president. looking out

for his own interest maintaining his regime i think this goal has in a way enabled him to use many means that many of us would consider not appropriate and crossing in violating very moral codes. using chemical weapons let's just make it very clear as an israeli i would strongly argue not to make a judgment by video clips you see in the media the media is manipulated by various factors in the region that has interests this is done a lot to us i would not do that to others but in this case i think the world health organization's and other international institutions that time and time again go in verify and say that actually samples taken taken in the field demonstrate that chemical weapons have been used i think it's safe to say they will we see now in syria is extremely troubling to say the least i think you are slightly misrepresenting what the world health organization has actually sab expressed concern about the use of chemical weapons and i think we would all agree that using

chemical weapons is absolutely inadmissible i think even the syrian government would state that pretty firmly but the world health organization sad that they have received reports from some of the part there are going is ations in the field why massage bar there again is a chanst included syrian american medical association which is indeed a fairly heated debate jaish i j shelley i slammed ricci was in control of that territory so i as of now i don't think there is any single international organization that has actually suggested what you have suggested i think it's best that every one of our viewers goes in assesses the data that's out there i said and i'll say it again we can be very careful to jump to conclusions i am certainly not an expert on using chemical weapons remember that when you say chemical weapons as a variety of of chemicals out there some are classic chemical weapons like seran gas and also there's been a use of chlorine in syria i wouldn't even address this specific attack and again remember i'm in. the standing here in israel trying to analyze the situation.

looking at the last few years of what's happening in syria seeing this regime clinging as hard as they can to the throne when. this war has taken such a devastating toll of hundreds and thousands of people killed and missed so many displaced mainly my concern is an israeli is the instability in the suffering of my neighbors and not a calculation of what specific issues have to do with the assad regime in general by the way most israelis would tell you know that the assad regime has proven unfit to rule but again we're talking about interests i know understand and appreciate that russia is inside of syria to maintain and uphold the syrian regime and quite successfully let me ask you specifically about the russian position because you yourself gave twenty five years of your life to military service i'm sure you understand that in military terms using chemical weapons in that particular situation was absolute nonsense to many liabilities to little gains especially

given that the syrian army was poised to take over that suburb anyway but even if you believe that assad government authorized tag do you think the russians now oddly being the slab or willfully covering up for that government which as you sad has perpetrated such a car and this crime against its people you know israel has a lot of respect for russia we have very good cooperation cordon nation with respect with some of what's going on and i understand and appreciate that russia is looking out for its interests also russian forces are inside of syria and have a good view of what's going on so it's very difficult and i think it would be a mistake on my part to do that kind of calculation and can going to the specific attack i didn't even say and i cannot see who was it ordered by who is it approved by who knew about it and i would rather look at the broader picture even you know also i think we make a mistake them sometimes after. hundreds and thousands of people killed taking one

specific incident of using korean and being shocked as if that is some crossing some red line and all the rest all the other people that are you know that's that's war also that i think is a mistake i think many times the the meanings that are used in the internal war in syria are means that are questionable and talking about bombing civilian and terrorist act colonel it's not like israel has never done that itself of bombing civilian areas let's let's not get into that discussion because i seriously don't think it's anywhere forgotten that you never would we go in carpet bomb a civilian population we have a question gaza right now as we speak we're not bombing gaza well you did on many occasions before and the same happened in beirut in lebanon but i am not interested in pursuing the truth because i think syria is more pressing issue right now let me ask you specifically what you mentioned before should that be we should not draw conclusions based on our own social media videos because they could be manipulated and the al qaeda affiliates which provided those videos jaish al islam which was in

control of film when that attack happened which was accused by amnesty international of using gas poisonous gas against the kurds in two thousand and sixteen these groups was documented rearranging children's corpses for emotional impact there are also strong indications that they have applied foam to the mouse of some of the corpses are you saying that these groups actions and potential motives do you not to raise suspicions on your part may surprise you but again i will not take a specific videoclip and draw conclusions from that and that's why i would not claim to know exactly what happened in a specific attack i'm looking at the broader picture of what's happening in syria and when you ask me you know what is my aspiration as an israeli my aspiration is stability and peace in syria and stopping that stopping the suffering in the killing of people. so so again i'm not i'm not claiming to know exactly what is

being done but do you already claim that the ada was the outside government that was behind it there's no doubt in my mind and also relying on israeli sources which i believe are more based on intelligence there's no doubt in my mind that there are tactics that are used by the assad regime which we would consider not moral and certainly they have been chemical attacks in syria and even we have to look not far back into the future and understanding that there were chemical weapons that in the agreement with the united states most of them at least were destroyed were all of them destroyed i don't know but certainly they were there and they were used in a way i don't see the point to argue this specific issue because i'm talking on a general issue of a minority in syria a dictatorship in a way clinching to the throne holding on to its regime and continuing year after year after year fighting the various segments inside the country using

very brutal means to achieve this and remember again my perspective just as a neighbor because as israel i don't have any claims for syria we don't have any any dispute at least as far as syria is no interests inside of syria besides stability well colonel we have to take a short break but to be building back in just a few moments states and. ranking gave americans a lot of opportunities i needed to come up here to. make some money i

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a modern take on the bears much to be. are. welcome back to worlds apart beyond the robotic bacha lawman an israeli air force veteran and columnist for the jerusalem post colonel let's talk about israel's all in the actions namely these massive air raid on the t four air base near holmes is this is not the first time that israel hit targets in syria and until recently russia's reaction to that has essentially been to look the other way do you think moscow will continue to tolerate what they'd go.