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in the form of a white crystalline powder it can cause confusion sight problems and also disorientation be said is also not thought to have been manufactured ever in russia or indeed in the soviet union that said the u.k. was still quick to blame russia for the attack on the former spy and his daughter pointing out that the nerve agent was first developed in the soviet union the international chemical weapons watchdog the o.p.c. w. said it supported britain's findings concerning the identity of the substance but it didn't specifically name the nerve agent but i guess takes a closer look at the controversy there was no trial no discussion no evidence no proof there was only judgement and punishment is highly likely that russia was responsible we do russia culpable culpable culpable for the attempted murder the pundits needed even less the name nuvi chalk sounds russian means russia did it establish that it is not a chalk and that is by definition of the translation of the name which means
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newcomer part of a program in a soviet union in the late seventy's and eighty's the points made there are a lot of questions to ask of this whole mess but over the last few weeks we've interviewed dozens of chemists eggs birds and military specialists and hear their biggest gripes. the new nerve agents a new she quit they haven't been so in decades here they are exerts from the books and studies available to the public neither the formula know the chemicals any more russian than itself for years now researchers have published studies and theses on the nuvi chocks which there are dozens and dozens of many developed in different countries there's just one good book in twenty zero seven
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the us or the published of people numerous chemical compounds we were interested because of the toxicity we all thought united them under the system there are more than sixty compounds here and they've all been indexed since then these formulas or some of them have appeared in various publications constantly you simply cannot see they are secret. there's more to it if you suspect a potential adverse arena has made a new discovery you have to do the same in order to study the new substance and make antidotes it's true to say that russia is not the only country being able to sympathize a few grams of no beach up in the late ninety's all intelligence services in the west worked on so i'm not surprised that in france in a new king in the united states you have this kind of information that could explain this speed in which the product was identified and there's
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a whole lot of nerve agents to go around with more being discovered undeclared nerve agents. and it's a country and there are many discovers the properties of a new chemical structure it's the city a chemical weapons for example they must immediately according to the convention fragile and with the obviously w. but no country does so. and it really isn't as difficult as it may sound if it's really an overtrick we're dealing with it's not a real problem to synthesize that kind of nerve agent or the necessary components are easily available on the open market any specialist in organic chemistry would be able to make it though every expert we talked to said that you need serious expertise and substantial funding to make cure nerve agent.
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and of course you can't make this in any basement the chemicals are highly toxic and the lab has to be well equipped with ventilation detoxification equipment every lead can synthesize this but there are twenty or so labs that counter. the argument that there is no alternative explanation because only russia has made new over trucks sales. britain's decision to classify almost every aspect of what happened and the investigation the school the room and mill running but there are tidbits that have leaked out tidbits that have the scientists scratching their heads the interesting thing with nova chalks is that there are so many of them and they come in so many different forms they can come in a powered as solid as a crystal and even as a liquid but just to give you some reference if this was
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a variety of the new rich rocks a single drop is enough to kill ten people ten people within minutes if this was in the haled even more units on the. symptoms that follows in minutes if it gets in the skin symptoms and can say for minutes. at first one might think that the script could only have survived because the dude's had to be very small but the reported symptoms don't match they simply missing if indeed this was a new ritual nerve agent at work the script balls were very fortunate. the u.k. and russia head to head of a number of issues right now and it's having a knock on effect with high profile figures like the british royal family boycotting the twenty eighteen world cup in russia but that didn't deter a dedicated band of arsenal fans from travelling to moscow this week for a full full european championship match after the break we'll meet up with one of
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them. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let it be an arms race in this on off and spearing dramatic development only. exist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful very cave to kill time time to sit down and talk. something happens in this case it was the chemical attack on civilians in syria and then the public in the media are waiting for the response and i think it's very clear now that if president trump said that there is going to be a response then it will be i just think that our expectations in a way that this american response will be so severe that it will be a game changer i think this is not the case it will again be misadjusted
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a very careful calculation by the americans not to deteriorate into a clash a direct confrontation with russia. hello again this week saw another wave of clashes between police and environmental activists near the french city of gnomes. tensions in the area have escalated since the deployment of thousands of police officers under the weight of activists known as the saddest have protested for a decade against the construction of a new airport near the city saw me build my chip houses and moved in but since plans for the new transport hub were finally rejected in january police been trying to forcefully affect a frontal response trying to do better because following events. but the standoff
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continues on the sunday between the police and the saddest if you just look behind me this is just one of the many barriers you can see the shell dummy just here but there are also in the fields behind us as we're trying to come through this field just rooms and rows and rows of police even coming into the area of not too dumb to land on sunday they will police cordons around the entire area checking i.d.'s people will come into the site and that's because is that just said call for action for peace attempts to stay on this land land that many people have been living on for the last ten years.
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let's take a look at what happened this week as the expulsion of the scientists began what's happening now is this is the battle between the police the c.r.'s of the government and the protest is the saddest who say that this is their land and they will do anything they can to defend it. walls have been throwing fire at the place and the police have been responding in kind with tear gas at times it felt like the sun the sky was raining with tear gas here and a colleague's artie's video agency will caught up in that take us. inside. because you. ready for your i don't want you to see what well as you can see now the zionists have let fly to one of these
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a very case the police are just about one hundred meters down in the distance ready waiting for whether they going to charge forward and i just want you to just look around me and you can see all of the smoke and that is because it literally has been raining down with tear gas a inot to down the line and if you look behind me there is a follow up in that in the background it is incredibly difficult to breathe we keep being moved on by that gas is actually chlorine to my skin because it hurt so much . real growth. for board room. but as you can see behind us the c r s and the police have come into another that is point this is a point where. a couple of dozen people were trying to hold off as you can see the police are pushing the white lace tear gas in the air already they've brought dogs
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in his well they are absolutely determined that they will move the saddest away from this camp we saw one man with a pack of cards saying no violence he was taken away by the police as he was trying to peacefully resist what's happening here what we can see is the police are now trying to push everybody away a tactic that we've seen earlier in the day whether you generalize right getting rid of all of the sadness or the activists they can then bring the pulled out. this isn't to get rid of these buildings this is sheer brute force by the state i mean it is really a king because they are clearing this site a start that's been occupied for many many years the sad could be over faster than many people thought it would be the clashes are still continuing to tear gas is still being spread well here in the city of north which is about thirty kilometers south of not to the dandelions there's been plenty of tear gas and
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people are saying they are incredibly angry. relations between the u.k. and russia might be at an all time low but that didn't stop british football fans from traveling to moscow for a major european match on thursday ahead of the game and some of the media in britain run threatening articles about what might have awaited supporters so. with one asshole super fan to see if the headlines were true. just on my way to consider you a very prominent hostile fan going to be all seeing him when he travels to moscow does he have any fear is regarding the political tension between the u.k. and russia is he worried about things like hooliganism. follow him throughout history how do you feel in this context you know. in the node there's been a lot going on between the governments waffling that's between the governments and
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i'm a person this is football we're going for football you know if you listen to people around you in the u.k. a lot some people are coming up to me and say robbie don't go there you'd be mad in an oil some of you've been to russia and i say well no i haven't come out i can i get advice for someone who has been there have also been concerns with regard to safety so for example hooliganism and also racism you know you've seen fings about russia and things of happened in russia that's not going to be a problem up in qana encouraged because of a lot received e-mails from groups over there in russia science immediately some release not nearly as bad as what it's made out to be. on the plane about to head out to russia. because courts where. it's a place i never before. to
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a thousand also supports is come over to watch the game many of them have been advised by the foreign and commonwealth office as well saying they could be an uptake of anti british sentiment amongst some russians due to the heightened tension between the two countries at the moment well i mean like you must go already. so we're very worried about coming here to the center and back to me so it's all right there's no tension between all such. as politicians and the politicians get on with it. you know we don't want to look around moscow ceremonies will be noisy these peace game how will organize these
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cities are really the feeling that would be will come to be goods. well for they will come in a few weeks from now right that's it you next week from a is in just over thirty five minutes time i'll see that. for a world cup twenty eight team coverage we've signed one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time but there was one more question and by the way who's going to be our coach. guys i know you are nervous he's a huge star and the huge amount of pressure you have to go i mean eighty percent of the football we are with you and you go over great the great you are the rock at the back nobody gets past you we need you to get the go.
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a low as i want to you know and i'm really happy to join the for the two thousand and three the world cup in russia meet the special one it was also pleased me to just say to redo the audi team's latest edition to make up a bigger need to just look. zia says holland kentucky. oh. boy it was very funny. money with no coal mines left. the job to grow all the coal was it showed. that it was love to see these people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in
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a million years i would see that and it's happening it's happened. in the welcome to worlds apart delage chemical attack on a damascus suburb has once again the put the world on the brink of a major confrontation and not just one as russia and the united states have been ripped as fissioning their big guns israel is the moment to strike what is called
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the reining in assets in syria for so little respect for the country's sovereignty can't israel college on its own interest being accommodated they have to discuss that i'm now joined by. an israeli air force veteran and columnist for the jerusalem post colonel it's great pleasure talking to you thank you very much for joining us on such a beautiful day thank you for having me now before we go into discussing israel's rationale for attacking its neighbor militarily let me ask you about your. an assessment of the situation in general you know the russian television package this week about what kind of foods you are supposed to stock on india event of a nuclear strike i wonder you've actually come to a point globally when dot kind of knowledge may prove practical i don't think so i think this may be a bit over doing it as far as where the region can go but certainly the the possibility of a miscalculation and deterioration into
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a regional war that is possible remember that we're talking about a global power is at play israel is not a global power but we do have our interests are very vital interests which we are trying to protect now there was a moment when dan merry can attack on syria seems not just an abba to blow but also imminent and possibly expansive and evolving knowledge just syrian targets but since then both washington and i think if the european allies have stabbed back a little bit. do you take it as a tactical move or do you think there has been some reassessment about what has actually happened and do more or perhaps they were assessment of what can happen as a result of the american strikes i think there's a problem in the way we perceive this something happens in this case it was the chemical attack on civilians and to syria and then the public in the media are waiting for the response of course playing into this is also this very unique american president which tells us via twitter what he plans to do and so everyone
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is waiting for this attack remember that the last attack by the united states was also not a game changer but more a signal and also here again is a four waiting we're sitting back and waiting for the american response it's not going to be toppling the syrian regime so it's going to be something calculated in the middle we don't know what we don't know when but of course this is the american calculation i wouldn't make a mistake of timing israel into this and also remember that the last attack by israel on two four had nothing to do with a chemical that. israel is not a global player player as far as being the regional a policeman and we are not carrying out messages by global powers we are looking out for our own interests i personally believe that the timing here was coincidental well colonel as you said we have a very very unusual president in the white house and i personally think that flipping a coin is more reliable than predicting mr trump's actions but i still wonder after everything that was written and sad and then taken back and then written and sat
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again do you seeing districts will still follow yes i think it will happen it's clear to me that the american administration will have to fulfill this kind of promise given to their people into the world i think president trump has cited strategic and military considerations also the very important consideration of his word of standing by his word remember that he criticized president obama for drawing a line in the sand or declaring a red line and then not enforcing it he even made made fun of him for this so i think it's very clear now that have president trump said that there is going to be response then it will be i just think that our expectations in a way that this american response will be so severe that it will be a game changer i think this is not the case it will again be messages and very careful calculation by the americans not to deteriorate into a clash a direct confrontation with russia but there is a kernel even if it's a targeted strike it's not actually you know a tiny little trifle it's actually
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a military attack on a sovereign nation don't you think that your church maybe we are overplaying the danger but don't you think that you are underestimating the significance of all of these because this is not what they are supposed to do to strike a your neighbor or another nation across the world militarily i know that these are all dotted on regular bases but this is actually against international law ok again that's not separate remember that russia is now inside a different country. the invitation of the legitimate u.n. recognized syrian government understood i'm not even going to argue that issue i'm just saying that certainly countries look out for their interests and like i said completely separated from the israeli case that we can discuss later that has nothing to do with this issue i think the americans for instance if they decide to take out installations that specifically have to do with chemical weapons i think all mankind would agree that that is a positive thing to do because using chemical weapons to all mankind is considered
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a serious violation of international law of our basic morals so again and that's what i'm giving recommendations to the united states i'm just saying i can certainly understand why the united states with their global responsibilities and their interest in the middle east will want to signal to the a thud regime that these red lines are serious now can i take it from your comments that you fully subscribed to the version of assad's culpability in these so horrendous attack and i wonder if you're basing our conclusions on the promise of his irrationality team being evil but still pursuing pragmatic goals or perhaps on the contrary seem being totally and suicidal emad very good question trying to figure out leaders in the region is extremely complicated i'm not going to say that i gave up completely but it's extremely complicated as far as president assad looking out for his own interest maintaining his regime i think this goal has in a way enabled him to use many means that many of us would consider not appropriate
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and crossing in violating very moral codes. using chemical weapons let's just make it very clear as an israeli i would strongly argue not to make a judgment by video clips you see in the media the media is manipulated by various factors in the region that has interests this is done a lot to us i would not do that to others but in this case i think the world health organization's and other international. the time and time again go in verify and say that actually samples taken taken in the field demonstrate that chemical weapons have been used i think it's safe to say they will we see now in syria is extremely troubling to say the least i think you're slightly misrepresenting what their world health organization has actually sat it expressed concern about the use of chemical weapons and i think we would all agree that using chemical weapons is absolutely inadmissible i think even the syrian government would state i'm pretty firmly but the world health organization sad that they have received reports from
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some of the part there are going is ations in the field why massage parlor there again is a chanst included syrian american medical association which is in deep a fairly heated debate jaish j. shelley i slammed ricci was in control of that territory so i as of now i don't think there is any single international organization that has actually suggested what you have suggested i think it's best that every one of our viewers goes in assesses the data that's out there i said and i'll say it again we could be very careful to jump to conclusions i am certainly not an expert on using chemical weapons remember that when you say chemical weapons as a variety of of chemicals out there some are classic chemical weapons like seran gas and also there's been a use of chlorine in syria i wouldn't even address this specific attack and again remember i'm an israeli standing here in israel trying to analyze the situation. looking at the last few years of what's happening in syria seeing this regime
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cooling as hard as they can to the throne when. this war has taken such a devastating toll of hundreds and thousands of people killed and this so many displaced mainly my concern is an israeli is the instability in the suffering of my neighbors and not a calculation of what specific issues have to do with the assad regime in general by the way most israelis would tell you know that the assad regime has proven unfit to rule. but again we're talking about interests i know i understand and appreciate that russia is inside of syria to maintain and uphold the syrian regime and quite successfully let me ask you specifically about the russian position because you yourself gave twenty five years of your life to military service i'm sure you understand that in military terms using chemical weapons in that particular situation was absolute nonsense to many liabilities to little gains especially given that the syrian army was poised to take over that suburb anyway but even if
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you believe that the assad government authorized tag do you think the russians now oddly being slat or willfully covering up for that government which as you sad has perpetrated such a car and this crime against its people you know israel has a lot of respect for russia we have very good cooperation cordon nation with respect with some of what's going on and i understand and appreciate that russia is looking out for its interests also russian forces are inside of syria and have a good view of what's going on so it's very difficult and i think it would be a mistake on my part to do that kind of calculation and can going to the specific attack i didn't even say and i cannot see who was it ordered by who is it approved by who knew about it and i would rather look at the broader picture even you know also i think we make a mistake them sometimes after hundreds and thousands of people killed taking one specific incident of using coreen and being shocked as if that is some crossing some red line and all the rest all the other people that are you know that's that's
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war also that i think is a mistake i think many times the the means that are used in the internal war in syria are means that are questionable and i'm talking about bombing a civilian and terrorist act colonel it's not like israel has never done that itself of bombing civilian areas let's let's not get into that discussion because i seriously don't think it's anywhere forgotten that you never would we go in carpet bomb a civilian population we have a question gaza right now as we speak. we're not bombing gaza well you did on many occasions before and the same happened in beirut in lebanon but i am not interested in pursuing the truth because i think syria is more pressing issue right now let me ask you specifically what you mentioned before should that be we should not draw conclusions based on our own social media videos because they could be manipulated and the al qaeda affiliates which provided those videos jaish al islam which was in control of film when that attack happened which was accused by amnesty
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international of using gas poisonous gas against the kurds in two thousand and sixteen these groups was documented rearranging children's corpses for emotional impact there are also strong indications that they have applied foam to the mouse of some of the corpses are you saying that these groups actions and potential motives do you not to raise suspicions on the whole part may surprise you but again i will not take a specific video clip and draw conclusions from that and that's why i would not claim to know exactly what happened in a specific attack i'm looking at the broader picture of what's happening in syria and when you ask me you know what is my aspiration as an israeli my aspiration is stability and peace in syria and stopping that stopping the suffering in the killing of people so so so again i'm not i'm not claiming to know exactly what is being done but the year already claimed that it was the outside government that was
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behind it there's no doubt in my mind and also relying on israeli sources which i believe are more based on intelligence there's no doubt in my mind that there are tactics that are used by the assad regime which we would consider not moral and certainly there have been chemical attacks in syria and even we have to look not far back into the future and understanding that there were chemical weapons that in the agreement with the united states most of them at least were destroyed were. all of them destroyed i don't know but certainly they were there and they were used in a way i don't see the point to argue this specific issue because i'm talking on a general issue of a minority in syria a dictatorship in a way clinching to the throne holding on to its regime and continuing year after year after year fighting the various segments inside the country using very brutal means to achieve this and remember again my priest.

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