one of the there's pressure by. us to be more involved but i think it's the wrong way it is an involvement in breaching of international law and we say and i think the majority of the people in germany they don't want to be involved so i think we should keep out the only one europe together and you're right next door to france why do you think france was so much the other way if you like they're actively getting involved indeed they said they had the proof of all this while this is a problem because this was a new that's a road decision by france by mr mccollum there is no european decision to be involved and this weakens as well the european. foreign policy so we are criticizing mr mccaughey coming to my city on the tense of may. and where you get. charts cries. of war but and i call that

these circumstances should not rise to. standing back after everything has happened over the last week specially the last couple of days it's calmed down a bit now by the looks of it for the moment can you see any solution to the escalation between russia and the west over syria. well i think there should be a return to international law to rule based international dealing we have seen in the script affair we have seen now in syria that there is no rule based dealing with these problems there should be a return to the united nations to international law or to the o.p.c. really the organization for the prevention of chemical weapons so there should be we are for strengthening the international organizations and not for putting them side like it was done under german bundesliga member the left party thank spain

love for the program appreciate it thank you other stories now from this week russia's foreign minister claims it just yesterday saturday that an independent swiss laboratories concluded that a second talks in was also used to poison a former spy and his daughter in the last month but sergei lavrov says the discovery of this new baby said agent as it's been described which russia says it's never produced was not mentioned in the international chemical watchdogs official report on the incident. who got it in the bushes the analysis is more consistent with the use of the poisonous substance be said none of these facts and nothing at all about what was mentioned in the final report which was presented to its executive board we request that the c.w. explain why such information and the conclusion this appears laboratory was emitted from the final report or the lab in question is not address the claims it said only the o.p.c. w.

can comment on that it did state though that it supports the u.k.'s original conclusions about the use of the nerve agents not much forward on that at the moment b.s. which the swiss scientists allegedly did find in these samples according to russia though is an incapacitating toxin developed by the us military way back in the one nine hundred fifty s. it comes in the form of a parity of white crystalline powder and can cause confusion sight problems and disorientation now moscow says bees it is a weapon that could be in the hands this is the catch of the u.k. or u.s. . one that it doesn't specifically have or never has had here in russia the u.k. was quick to blame russia of course for the attack on the former spy and his daughter pointing out that it was first developed in the soviet union international chemical what weapons watchdog the o.p.c. w. said it supported britain's findings concerning the identity of that substance or nothing's changed there but it didn't specifically name the nerve agent takes a closer look at this complicated controversy. there was no trial no discussion no

evidence no proof there was only judgement and punishment is highly likely that russia was responsible the juveniles russia culpable culpable culpable for the attempted murder the pundits needed even less the name nuvi chalk sounds russian means russia did it establish that it is not a chalk a matter is by definition of the translation of the name which means newcomer part of a program in a soviet union in the late seventy's and eighty's the points made there are a lot of questions to ask of this whole mess but over the last few weeks we've interviewed dozens of chemists experts and military specialists and hear their biggest gripes. the new nerve agents a new she quit they haven't been so in decades here they are exerts from the

books and studies available to the public neither the formula you know the chemicals any more russian then itself for years now researchers have published studies and the she's on the nuvi chocks which there are dozens and dozens of many developed in different countries there's just one in twenty zero seven the us or the published a paper on numerous chemical compounds we were interested because of the toxicity the author invited them on the system there are more than sixty compounds here and they've all been indexed since then these formulas or some of them have appeared in various publications constantly but you simply cannot save your sequence i mean there's more to it if you suspect a potential adverse arena has made a new discovery you have to do the same in order to study the new substance and

make antidotes it's true to say that russia is not the only country being able to sympathize a few grams of know each other and the late ninety's all intelligence services in the west worked on so i'm not surprised that in france in a new kid in the united states you have this kind of information that could explain this speed in which the product was identified and there's a whole lot of nerve agents to go around with more being discovered undeclared nerve agents. and it's a country and there are many discovers the properties of a new chemical structure it's the city a chemical weapons potential they must immediately according to the convention veges certain it would be obviously w. but no country does so. and it really isn't as difficult as it may sound if it's really an overt joke we're dealing with it's not

a real problem to synthesize that kind of nerve agent or the necessary components are easily available on the open market any specialist in organic chemistry would be able to make it though every expert we talked to said that you need serious expertise and substantial funding to make cure nerve agent. and of course you can't make this in any basement the chemicals are highly toxic and the lab has to be well equipped with ventilation the talks of acacia equipment built every lead can synthesize this but there are twenty or so labs that counter. the argument that there is no alternative explanation because only russia has made newbie trucks sales. britain's decision to classify in most every aspect of what happened and the investigation is called the room and

mill running but there are tidbits that have leaked out tidbits that have the scientists scratching their heads the interesting thing with nova chalks is that there are so many of them and they come in so many different forms they can come in a powered as solid as a crystal and even as a liquid but just to give you some reference if this was a variety of the nuvi chocks a single drop is enough to kill ten people ten people within minutes if this was in the hailed even more units on putting it we can hail the symptoms appear and follows in minutes if it gets on the skin symptoms and can take for minutes to hours. at first one might think that the script could only have survived because the deuce had to be very small but the reported symptoms don't match they

simply missing if indeed this was a nuvi chalk a nerve agent at work the script balls were very fortunate. some news developing this sunday after the break when we come back in ninety seconds more protests falling in support of the former catholic leaders tell you all about that right ahead.

something happens in this case it was the chemical attack on civilians in syria and then the public and the media are waiting for the response i think it's very clear now that if president trump said that there is going to be a response then it will be i just think that our expectations in a way that this american response will be so severe that it will be a game changer i think this is not the case it will again be misadjusted very careful calculation by the americans not to deteriorate into a clash a direct confrontation with russia. again developing story tonight over thirty thousand demonstrators of march through barcelona calling for the release of jailed catalan leaders from the region separatist movement. several top

officials are saying catalonia proclaimed independence last october. the move came following a referendum which went ahead despite spain by hitting the folks a madrid declaring it illegal interest. the cattle and parliament was sacked of course is the well documented in its leaders accused of rebellion testers have been calling for no legal proceedings to be taken against the breakaway regions former president carter has proved more who is still in exile in germany. this past week saw another wave of clashes between police and environmental activists near the french city of not. tensions have really escalated of late since the point of foundations of police officers or the weak activists known as scientists who protested for a decade against the construction of what was going to be a new airport near the city some even built makeshift houses and moved in there but since plans for the new transport hub were finally rejected in january that's when

things really have been hotting up play something trying now to forcefully evictees people of french correspondent shala dube and ski is following the events. of the standoff continues on the sunday between the police and the saddest if you just look behind me this is just one of the many barriers you can see the show dummy just here but there also in the fields behind us as we're trying to come through this field just rooms and rows and rows of police even coming into the area of not too dumb to land on sunday they will police cordons around the entire area and checking i.d.'s people will come into the site and that's because is that just said calls for action for people to come and support them on some day to support their attempts to stay on this land land that many people have been living on for the last ten years.

let's take a look at what happened earlier this week as the expulsion of the scientists began what's happening now is. this is the battle between the police the c.r.s. all the governments and the protesters the saddest who say that this is their land and they will do anything they can to defend it they've been throwing bottles they've been throwing fire at the place and the police have been responding in kind with tear gas. and it's. because you.

ready for your i don't want you to see well as you can see now the zionists have let fly to one of these a very case the police are just about a hundred meters down in the distance ready waiting for whether they going to charge forward and i just want you to just look around me and you can see all of the smoke and that is because it literally has been raining with tear gas hey it is incredibly difficult to breathe we keep being moved on by that gas is actually chlorine to my skin because it hurt so much. real bright. professional football grow. but you can see behind us the c r s and the police have come in to another that is point this is a point where. a couple of dozen people were trying to hold off as you can see the police are pushing the way a tactic that we've seen earlier in the day whether you choice right getting rid of

all of the sadness or the activists they can then bring the bulldozers in to get rid of these buildings this is sheer brute force by the state and it is working because they are clearing this site assortments being occupied for many many years is sad could be over for the many people thought it would be because she's also still continuing to tear gas is still being spread well here in the city of nohant which is about thirty kilometers south of not too dumb to learn. it's been plenty of t.v. gas and people all saying they are incredibly angry. it seems so disney will us the way that we check it out so you don't converse so much more from us twenty four seven from ny or of moscow's covenant saying thanks for watching and enjoy the rest of your weekend.

forman are sitting in a car when the fit gets shot in the head. all four different versions of what. one of them is on the death row there's no way he could have done it there's no possible way he did not shoot around a corner. welcome

to worlds apart delage chemical attack on a damascus suburb has once again the put the world on the brink of a major confrontation and not just one as russia and the united states have been ripped his fishing that big guns israel is the moment to strike what is called the reigning in assets in syria for so little respect for the country's sovereignty can't israel column on its own interest being accommodated they have to discuss that i'm now joined by the group and ban shalom an israeli air force veteran and columnist for the jerusalem post colonel it's great pleasure talking to you thank you very much for joining us on such a beautiful day thank you for having me now before we go into discussing israel's rationale for attacking its neighbor militarily let me ask you about your own

assessment of the situation in general you know the russian television package this week about what kind of foods you are supposed to stalk on in the event of a nuclear strike i wonder you've actually come to a point globally when dot kind of knowledge may prove practical i don't think so i think this may be a bit overdoing it this far as where the region can go but certainly the possibility of a miscalculation and deterioration into a regional war that is possible remember that we're talking about a global power play israel is not a global power but we do have our interests are very vital interests which we are trying to protect now there was a moment when dan merrick an attack on syria seemed not just an abba to blow but also imminent. and possibly expansive and evolving not just syrian targets but since then both washington and i think it's the european allies have stabbed back

a little bit. do you take it as a tactical move or do you think there has been some reassessment about what has actually happened and do more perhaps they were assessment of what can happen as a result of the american strikes i think there's a problem in the way we perceive this something happens in this case it was the chemical attack on civilians in the syria and then the public in the media are waiting for the response of course playing into this is also this this very unique american president which tells us via twitter what he plans to do and so everyone's waiting for this attack remember that the last attack by the united states was also not a game changer but more a signal and also here again is a four waiting we're sitting back and waiting for the american response it's not going to be toppling the syrian regime so it's going to be something calculated in the middle we don't know what we don't know when but of course this is the american calculation i wouldn't make a mistake of timing israel into this and also remember that the last attack by israel on two four had nothing to do with a chemical attack israel is not

a global player player as far as being the regional a policeman and we are not carrying out messages by global powers we are looking out for our own interests i personally believe that the timing here was coincidental well colonel as you said we have a very very unusual president in the white house and i personally think that flipping a coin is more reliable than predicting mr chance actions but i still wonder after everything that was written and sad and then taken back and done written and sat again do you seeing districts will still follow yes i think it will happen it's clear to me that the american administration will have to fulfill this kind of promise given to their people into the world i think president trump has besides strategic and military considerations all. the a very important consideration of his word of standing by his word remember that he criticized president obama for drawing a line in the sand or declaring

a red line and then not enforcing it he even made made fun of him for this so i think it's very clear now that if president trump said that there is going to be a response then it will be i just think that our expectations in a way that this american response will be so severe that it will be a game changer i think this is not the case it will again be messages and very careful calculation by the americans not to deteriorate into a clash a direct confrontation with russia but even if it's a targeted strike it's not actually you know a tiny little trifle it's actually a military attack on a sovereign nation don't you think that the u.s. should maybe we are overplaying the danger but don't you think that you are underestimating the significance of all of this because this is not what you're supposed to do to strike a your neighbor or another nation across the world militarily i know that these are all dotted on regular bases but this is actually against international law ok again that's not separate remember that russia is now inside

a different country on the invitation of the legitimate u.n. recognized syrian government understood i'm not even going to argue that issue i'm just saying that certainly countries look out for their interests and like i said completely separated from the israeli case that we can discuss later that has nothing to do with this issue i think the americans for instance if they decide to take out installations that specifically have to do with chemical weapons i think all mankind would agree that that is a positive thing to do because using chemical weapons to all mankind is considered a serious violation of international law of our basic morals so again on the thought that i'm giving recommendations to the united states i'm just saying i can certainly understand why the united states with their global responsibilities and their interest in the middle east will want to signal to the a fide regime that these red lines are serious now can i take it from your comments that you fully. subscribed to the version of us out culpability in this so horrendous attack and i wonder if you're basing your conclusions on the promise of his irrationality him

being evil but still pursuing pragmatic goals or perhaps on the contrary human being totally and suicidal emad very good question trying to figure out leaders in the region is extremely complicated i'm going to say that i gave up completely but it's extremely complicated as far as president looking out for his own interest maintaining his regime i think this goal has in a way enabled him to use many means that many of us would consider not appropriate and crossing and violating very moral codes. using chemical weapons let's just make it very clear as an israeli i would strongly argue not to make a judgment by video clips you see in the media the media is manipulated by various factors in the region that has interest this is done a lot to us i would not do that to others but in this case i think the world health

organization's and other international institutions the time and time again go in verify and say that actually samples taken taken in the field demonstrate that chemical weapons have been used i think it's safe to say they will we see now in syria is extremely troubling to say the least i think you're slightly misrepresenting what their world health organization has actually sab expressed concern about the use of chemical weapons and i think we would all agree that using chemical weapons is absolutely inadmissible i think even the syrian government would state i'm pretty firmly but the world health organization sad that they have received reports from some of the part there are going is ations in the field why massage par there are going to included syrian american medical association which is indeed a fairly heated debate jaish. al islam breach was in control of that territory so i as of now. now i don't think there is any single international organization that has actually suggested what you have suggested i think it's best that every one of

our viewers goes in assesses the data that's out there i said and i'll say it again we've to be very careful to jump to conclusions i am certainly not an expert on using chemical weapons remember that when you say chemical weapons as a variety of of chemicals out there some are classic chemical weapons like seran gas and also there's been a use of chlorine in syria i wouldn't even address this specific attack and again remember i'm an israeli standing here in israel trying to analyze the situation. looking at the last few years of what's happening in syria seeing this regime clinging as hard as they can to the throne when. this war has taken such a devastating toll of hundreds and thousands of people killed and this so many displaced mainly my concern is an israeli this is the instability in the suffering of my neighbors and not a calculation of what specific issues have to do with the assad regime in general by the way most israelis would tell you know that the assad regime has proven unfit

to rule but again we're talking about interests i know understand and appreciate that russia is inside of syria to maintain and uphold these syrian regime and quite successfully let me ask you specifically about the russian position because you yourself gave twenty five years of your life to military service i'm sure you understand that in military terms using chemical weapons in that particular situation was absolute nonsense to many liabilities to little gains especially given that the syrian army was poised to take over that suburb anyway but even if you believe that the assad government authorized tag do you think the russians now oddly being slagged or willfully covering up for that government which as you sad has perpetrated such a current us crime against its people you know israel has a lot of respect for. we have very good cooperation coordination with respect with some of what's going on and i understand and appreciate that russia is looking out

for its interests also russian forces are inside of syria and have a good view of what's going on so it's very difficult and i think it would be a mistake on my part to do that kind of calculation again going to the specific attack i didn't even say and i cannot see who was it ordered by who is it approved by who knew about it and i would rather look at the broader picture even you know also i think we make a mistake them sometimes after hundreds and thousands of people killed taking one specific incident of using who are mean and being shocked as if that is some crossing some red line and all the rest all the other people that are you know that's that's war also that i think is a mistake i think many times the the meanings that are used in the internal war in syria are means that are questionable and i'm talking about bombing a civilian and terrorist act colonel it's not like israel has never done dot itself a bombing civilian areas let's let's not get into that discussion because i seriously don't think it's anywhere for granted you never would we go in carpet bomb a civilian population we have

a question gaza right now as we speak we're not bombing gaza well you did on many occasions before and the same happened in beirut in lebanon but i am not interested in pursuing the truth because i think syria is more pressing issue right now let me ask you specifically what you mentioned before should that be we should not draw conclusions based on our own social media videos because they could be manipulated and the al qaeda affiliates which provided those videos jaish al islam which was in control of when that attack happened which was accused by amnesty international of using gas poisonous gas against the kurds in two thousand and sixteen days girl was documented rearranging children's corpses for emotional impact there are also strong indications dad they have applied foam to the mouse of some of the corpse. says i you saying that these groups actions and potential motives do you not to raise a any suspicions on the oil part may surprise you but again i will not take

a specific video clip and draw conclusions from that and that's why i would not claim to know exactly what happened in a specific attack i'm looking at the broader picture of what's happening in syria and when you ask me what is my aspiration as an israeli my aspiration is stability and peace in syria and stopping the stopping the suffering in the killing of people so so so again i'm not i'm not claiming to know exactly what is being done but do you already claimed that it was the outside government that was behind it there's no doubt in my mind and also relying on israeli sources which i believe are more based on intelligence there's no doubt in my mind that there are tactics that are used by the assad regime which we would consider not moral and certainly they have been chemical attacks in syria and even we have to look not far back into the future and understanding that there were chemical weapons that in the agreement with the united states most of them at least were destroyed were all of them

destroyed i don't know but certainly they were there and they were used in a way i don't see the point to argue this specific issue because i'm talking on a general issue of a minority in syria a dictatorship in a way clinching to the throne holding on to its regime and continuing year after year after year fighting the various segments inside the country using very brutal means to achieve this and remember again my perspective just as a neighbor because as israel i don't have any claims for syria we don't have any any dispute at least as far as syria is no interests inside of syria besides stability well colonel we have to take a short break but people be back in just a few moments stay tuned.