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welcome back today the un's organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons meets in the hague over the suspected chemical attack in syria but why have nato powers already made up their minds and why does donald trump such a vocal opponent of president obama's desire to bomb syria now seek war i'm now joined by veteran and virginia state senator dick black dick thanks for joining us so what's changed for trump to be now just beginning to sound more and more like hillary clinton on syria. i think he has he has been forced by these allegations of russian collusion to become more and more bellicose just to prove that he really is not working with the russians. unfortunately he's now surrounded himself by a war cabinet john bolton is the most recent and extraordinarily bellicose individual and it's unfortunate i think we had the the bush obama

doctrine now it's becoming the bush obama trump doctrine which is regime change provocative wars wars of aggression and not i speak as a wounded combat veteran i've been in some of the most fierce combat and in our lifetimes in america but i'm very much opposed to what we're doing can you cite the sympathize with them a president in the oval office being handed the pictures every few hours of dead children and being told you must act well i sympathize to some extent but honest lay he promised us that he was very good at selecting people and the people he has surrounded himself with are not of good quality they are not people who who desire to reduce tensions and to avoid war it was a few years ago now that the u.n.

war crimes commissions khalid will point to claim that strong concrete suspicion was the jihad of rebel use of chemical weapons do you believe the chemical weapons attack could have been stage oh i think absolutely it was i'm a career prosecutor i spent a half of my career i ended up in the pentagon as the chief of the criminal law division of one of the things when you're looking at crimes you look at motive there was utterly no motive there was no benefit why. so over or president assad to to conduct an attack he had essentially. been victorious in duma he was now bussing the terrorists out of there they had arrangements and agreements and then an interesting way that at the last moment the terrorists said well we have a truce for a day or so to work out some details and the syrians agreed yes of course we could

do that and that was the point at which the this claimed chemical attack occurred now we we do not know that there was a chemical attack because a doctor from one of the and from the principal of the principal hospital in duma said we have not had any patients presented or or admitted to the hospital with symptoms of gas poisoning so it appears very strongly as though this was simply a rooms that was concocted by by the terrorists in order to bring the united states u.k. france and others into the war against this very small country of syria that's fought for eight years against the entire western world ok but discussions

are then suddenly in the media i'm sure into believing the u.s. augusta gains the red crescent in the u.n. and believe dudley's the al qaeda linked white helmets you don't believe them. the white how much are you know if you look at them they're promoted to be and a propaganda arm of al qaeda and you may recall al qaeda hijacked four jetliners flew them into the twin towers and the pentagon in two thousand and one killed three thousand americans slaughtered them and now they have become our principal source of intelligence for what's going on. and why we rely on them at all i will go to the white helmets of possibly funded by the british taxpayer well you know there are a lot of things that are planted by the british by the united states we have been

sending a gargantuan amount of high tech weapons to the terrorists and we had a leaked report from the defense intelligence agency in two thousand and thirteen that said that we were indiscriminately supplying all rebel groups including specifically isis and al-qaeda and so it doesn't surprise me we have been engaged in a propaganda war taken then it's our own people that what we are doing is fighting against syria and instead of fighting for the jihadist terrorists there is considerable opposition here in britain. to what teresa mayes saying in support of donald trump now how is that base that you know that republican base is going to react then to a war. i think there is very little enthusiasm people tend to accept what they hear

the media the media over here as is have a way censored even social media is beginning to be censored and i think also the united states has been continuously at war for seventeen years that is longer than world war one world war two and the vietnam war all combine i don't think there's going to be much benefit for traum for theresa may or mark or own for are going to america all i think in the end if they if they conduct a war i think it's going to backfire on them politically and i think the people of turn on them just finally you're a soldier you know that trump is arguably also surrounded himself with some soldiers you don't think general mattis and general kelly have either think these people are going to be telling him the kinds of things you just be telling me something that no journalist has ever questioned they've never said. we always see

these pictures of children of babies and so forth why don't we see pictures of anime she hardest who have been killed by poison gas. certain lay there are tens of thousands of isis and al qaida and all of their all of the all of them are related they're like drug cartels there are ideas dover throw the country to murder all of the non extremists and why are they not targeted by syria if syria feel so desperate that they have to use poison gas knowing that it's going to bring down the wrath of the world why would they do it after they've won the war after they won the battle in new mom and why would they use it against civilians instead of military. no one will ask that

question the media simply censors that question because i think the reporters know what's good for them if you ask that question you may not be on the phone the staff to to ask the. president any questions in the future so as a thank you well as the phrase world war three appears more frequently in the mainstream media of nato nations methods of warfare are being discussed at the un in geneva specifically the rise of killer robots joining me now from geneva human rights watch is bonnie daugherty associate director at the conflict in civilian protection department of the harvard law school bonnie thanks for joining us so as i said all the media too will care about surgical strikes what could be more surgical than the room wolf. well our concern about robot warfare what we call fully autonomous weapons are these weapons would select a target and fire on it without humans choosing pushing the killed but they would

have the we would be turning over life and death decisions to machines these weapons raise a host of moral ethical legal security concerns and that's what we're here to discuss at the un this week range of concerns than the existing ones about drone warfare. they raise different issues i think drones are question largely about how they use this is a weapon system that could be is inherently problematic and we believe should be preemptively banned before they even come into existence before the genie is out of the bottle and this is a concern for all sides state actors as well because of the proliferation perhaps being leading to their use by militant political factions in forms of asymmetric warfare. you know one of our major concerns is on the security front that these weapons could proliferate as you say to states to non-state armed groups to range of parties one group is referred to them as the kalashnikov of tomorrow and there

be even less control if once we disperse these things across the world it was you know it just those like fictional characters dr strangelove that might say surely. a strike by one of these systems might not be as bad as humans after all humans have killed tens of millions of people in the past hundred years. sure and there is there are people argue that robots could be more more responsible or more accurate i guess than than humans but there's widespread agreement actually at this meeting in the un that the use of force should be retained human control should be retained over the use of force and i think that that if there's one message that's come out to me clearly from the this meeting of which there are wide representation in the world is that general principle of human control is important you see there's some glitzy videos on you tube from contractors' and so forth during the great power and

ingenuity of these weapon systems much less about the hack ability of these systems do you think that they are essentially like all computer systems hackable. any computer system is hackable and that's get another reason we're concerned about them is there a liability once once they're released a party could hack it a group that it could connections could break and once that happens it's their actions becoming foreseeable and again once they have once it's done perceivable it's hard to hold anyone or any human responsible for what they do so that's yet another concern i mean in the syria conflict we've seen. as older generations not even drones being used what sort of time scale are you and your colleagues in geneva discussing some some people have argued that they are inevitable and that as i say scientists argue this could be developed in a matter of years however we don't think they are inevitable we think it's not too

late for the countries of the world to take preemptive action and to stop them before they are developed for their produce before they are deployed and that's what we're calling on states to do here at the u.n. in geneva the broom is that people have been finding cluster bombs in yemen british cluster bombs long after the treaties that govern they're used let alone land mines whatever you come up with the u.n. is it actually much use when it comes to stopping these. well no treaty is is treaties are important not only for the standards they set but for implementation and well any law can be broken the laws against murder are broken that does not mean they don't set a really important international standard for the use of force and for example the convention cluster munitions has there been no. clear violations by countries that have joined the treaty and have also. set a stigma against using that and well as i say they're always rogue actors that.

violate the principles i think that internationally has been demonstrated to have a significant effect and that's the kind of effect you want to have here there's a another preemptive treaty another ban on blinding lasers that was adopted in the one nine hundred ninety s. and that has kept those type of weapons which would permanently blind soldiers or civilians from being used and that's the that kind of action has been effective and we think that will be effective in this case as well if you failed is the fifth time i understand the u.n. is debating in discussing these issues could we see a he may perhaps cyber army that could hack these systems or they don't work in any case neutralizing the threat the roots. perhaps the more effectively than the united nations itself. that's an interesting question i'm not an expert in cyber and cyber warfare actually is not my specialty but cyber warfare has raised many concerns in other circles so using cyber to defeat fully autonomous weapons i don't

think is the is the best route to go and i'm also encouraged by the momentum that's built this week it is the fifth time the un states have convened at the un about this issue but things are starting to get more formalized and and state positions are becoming more clear and i think states are taking action so we hope they will succeed here if not here somewhere else. thank you and that's it for the show will be back on wednesday when u.k. prime minister of tourism a was officially said you'll return to the house of commons to answer questions from jeremy called until then people talk about social media will feel when say thirty six years to the day eleven year old schoolboy stephen mcdonell me was shot in the head by the british army in belfast stephen was just one of the deaths mainly of children killed by plastic rooms no british soldier or member of the all you see to this day has ever been prosecuted.

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welcome to the news from r.t. international first this hour the british prime minister will soon explain to parliament why she ordered strikes on syria without getting its approval first the commons right now is holding its first session since the easter break macross with life went to resume may's expected to face m.p.'s this is a video of british and french fighter jets taking off and landing from their bases in the early hours of saturday as they join the u.s. led attack on syria french cruise missiles were also launched from the mediterranean and this is reports now on what kind of grilling to reason may might expect. we are certainly expecting a day of heated debate here in westminster at the house of commons as in fact m.p.'s will be gathering to debate to rescind may's decision to go ahead and strike against syria along with the us and france this weekend without getting parliamentary approval first despite there having been quite a handful of calls not just within the opposition but also inside the conservative

party to allow parliament to be able to vote and weigh in on these potential strikes at the time first and of course that didn't happen and we did see theresa may go ahead an act seeing it as justified and necessary talking again about evidence and using the word that seems to have become quite popular over here in britain highly likely i cannot tell you everything but let me give an example of some of the evidence that leads us to this conclusion open source accounts allege that it was used to deliver the chemicals. multiple open source reports claim that a regime helicopter was observed above the city of duma on the evening of the seventh of april and reliable intelligence indicates that syrian military officials coordinated what appears to be the use of chlorine in duma on the seventh of april we judge it highly likely both that the syrian regime has continued to use chemical weapons since then and will continue to do so well we have heard from the leader of

the scottish scottish national party she has tweeted saying that the u.k. foreign policy should be shaped by parliament instead of the us president we have of course of course heard from the leader of the opposition labor party leader jeremy corbyn who believes that parliament should have been consulted on issues like this there's even been some talk inside the labor party of potentially reforming the laws when it comes to this this is what corbett had to say she could have come to parliament on monday to discuss the whole situation instead of launch these strikes she claims there is a legal basis for it i've asked to the letter i've just sent to this morning to publish in full the legal basis and justification for it well let's keep in mind that back in twenty thirteen we saw then prime minister david cameron set up a vote in parliament on similar kinds of strikes in syria and that was voted down this was of course because largely people were not convinced that it was a necessary step to take especially following all of the if you can put it that way

running the iraq war that kick started in two thousand and three under false pretenses so it is widely understood here in westminster that that kind of repeat vote against these strikes could have taken place as well and possibly that's why a vote on this was avoided by the british prime minister and it has to be made clear that she's not under legal obligation to have to put in this kind of vote against parliament however this has been common practice exactly following the iraq war. and this was understood to be sort of traditional after the years that followed however this did not happen this time around so we're certainly expecting lots of questions raised here in westminster later on today. i will come to it live when it happens meanwhile british foreign secretary boris johnson has welcomed what he called an international adores much of the attack on syria despite massive rallies in several countries protesting the military action i'm very grateful to

see pretty strong international support to speed. the p. three u.k. products in america have. a. chance for the thoughts on the streets in the u.k. the mail on sunday newspaper published a poll revealing that the british public was overwhelmingly opposed to the prime minister's decision to bypass parliament and go ahead and in a poll just before that missile attack and you go poll that said less than a quarter of the british public supported taking any military action with almost twice as many opposing it rice let's go live now to political commentator on the web no the reason they didn't legally have to go to parliament to ask its permission to launch any strikes or get involved but why do you think she went against convention previous prime ministers of that they want to do their thought. well i think she did because she thought she. didn't seem credible when we haven't

seen her pete spike should carry doubts which is true happened remember. so it's very right concern. it's concerning because even though it's been a pretty much from bear arms your propaganda trying to put the government cross the pressures public's know who. are against this action some people who try to make it. but in fact it's are trust the parts he holds that people are going to sanction. wonder what the motivation is so on if it suited britain's interests old school and also i want to know why we're. judged. who are the terrorist organization who in fact. chemical attacks themselves

so one wonders why because these people who carried out attacks. against the kurds and syrian seventy that's why outraising maidan saying we should be in stockholm and so it's all ones but it didn't against the syrian government so you're not buying the government's claim that there was a humanitarian need to to intervene as soon as they did. well of course not because the syrian government so that she was where he's going to. there is no point in trying every action. and. it's the same he. was well it's how you carry your own will be reconciled you know you should be free so you. don't suggest an issue. with the allegations about the chemical weapons attack because of course our own to some russians are

now with you happen to society if you step on each this is something very. hurtful . but if it turns out it was. prime minister tell you can ask her why. with all the rest and for all it all some. time she had been staged an effort to resume a taking action at the time she did have quite lucky in a way she able to do it while parliament was on its easter recess the calls to reconvene perhaps just weren't loud enough to bother doing that so what you expect to come out of today's session it's after the fact m.p.'s can bluster as much as they like to claim vote on it at the end it will mean nothing except if they do come out very strongly against terrorism a she'll just bypass them again in future. you know it's not so great during your armand who is. who was the problem

with this. if there is a chemical attack are destroying. it gives the terrorists the green light to disparage more terrorist attacks. bring about more intervention. this is not cheap in. the instability you. mean but terrorist tools because they're easily are the united states not much you can you know. i was supporting going and if you look at the people in syria that's how deeply this will lose with the beach free and it's because they're all relatively. it's very sort of giving them a chance hoping change and once army the americans are going to pull out of syria where all this is charity loose and now the this very people who i'm talking

about the last majority who are our. own are. yeah the likelihood of the us leaving serious looks less likely than stunning is to be honest we have to leave it there but anthony webb a political commentator appreciate your thoughts of the south today thank you and just to remind you in the early hours of saturday morning thing u.s. the u.k. and france carried out joint strikes against the syrian government the three allies say the operation was launched in response to an alleged chemical attack in the city of doom a week earlier well though many western governments blame the south military for that suspected assault they have not put forward any clear evidence to support their claim. live.