suggests an interview with a canadian journalist but also goes on to say love your dentist mean a show breath of fresh air and a small kid in lots of a kind if you indeed last week of course alex interviewed lloyd buffett weekly and if you want to say is enjoy teaching apply to study perspective from definitely great interview as was no exchange of previous week very much a regular seven thirty thirty am must see for me and many others i suspect bryce he says fascinating interview that i on a billboard weekly on alex salmond show looking forward to the usa shows keep up the good work alex and his mina and finally martin say it's really enjoyed this week sure with welsh lord but the lord for a reason something we do not think about brilliant now alex is in new york at carnegie hall speaking with gino francis corney the director of archives there. you know got my seat in the stalls here so welcome to carnegie hall i like you so much do you know the joke how do you get to carnegie hall some by ticket but some have

to have their own show. know what's new stuff they've done so much i do where we were all the way back late i was in the balcony over one thousand nine hundred seventy four i remember calling my father saying i heard ella fitzgerald and they were paying me six dollars a night i was so stunned was i thought over the of types of you know tips six dollars so you started it started when i was working backstage and so how did you survive for the six dollars and it was ok. we were able to do it my rental one hundred eighty seven dollars a month. ok in midtown manhattan doesn't make any sense now but as it as i walk it yourself and all shop have those days in the month i have farmed by the right ok for a performance here where would you suggest would be the ultimate there's a sweet spot for myself when there's going to be a wonderful performance i go all the way back up there where you started the sound

comes up. and it shoots right out of going to the school to the research room. straight question i'm. the most influential school of all time on the medical history. yes i do he did so much for this country that we know of with the various institutions the libraries the philanthropies but there are also. aspects which a lot of people may not be aware of for example the the hero fund that he has. instituted where if someone was. has been discovered to do a heroic act they were given a sum of money and a medal and over nine thousand people were given some money and a medal and when we started the archives here people assumed that carnegie hall had

to deal with the andrew carnegie corporation so people were calling to get information about grandpa's medal and grandpa's certificate and i didn't know what they were talking about and then i discovered that there were more than there were nearly ten thousand people whose lives were changed across the country because andrew carnegie had heard they had done a heroic act so could make a bill to use a little bit just look at that on some distance and he built up an industrial combine and an empire. but spent as much time in libya more giving away his fortune as he did amassing it in the first place he said that someone who dies rich dice disgraced i don't know when he came up with that but he felt that someone should spend the first third of their life becoming educated this second third of their life making money and then the third part of

their life giving it away and it was. when he was. inspired to do this he became unstoppable he was aggressive with the way he gave his money away as he was in business and he was pretty aggressive business when he was what was dictating it was a presbyterian ethic justification by faith i mean i recognize this as a presbyterian justification of by faith you assume the acquisition of wealth is an indication of the justification of your fish that's right as is the philanthropy which he faked of lee invented for the modem age run to giving it away but also part of the was the roofless we had built up his business and so how did you think police squealed to the actions perhaps you have to date by the sensitive to become the world's richest man with this faith which was driving him all you know to me it's all common sense this this common sense that he had that it wasn't

so much going to make money i'm going to have the largest corporation in the world he was thinking i need to do this and how can i do it by the most economical way and. he practically invented the monopoly why can't i have my own chips why can't i have my own trains why can't i have my own coal mines and it wasn't because it will make me wealthier it'll bring the costs of whatever i'm doing down and he could spread it around and reinvest and in fact even funding a place like this carnegie hall was the location to many people was ill advised the architect was unknown and he built it with the idea perhaps acquire would use it but there are three theatres in this building what was he thinking when midtown at this time was still two point eight miles south of here

and there was no transportation he knew he could feel something and i think this is transcends. religion it transcends philosophy it was a feeling i think and that's that's unique really to me he's i as much as i i've now felt i knew and drew for almost thirty two years then he's still an enigma in a lot of ways because. how would you invent a monopoly or create the monopoly and then build thirty five hundred library eves free for the common man all over the world which was probably based on his own childhood experience in the film and where he couldn't get access to the public liability because as status and life was too lowly so when he took the liability and done famine. going to world he first gift was a library to the town of dunfermline and then he bought the yard that belonged to

the layered and he opened it up to the public and you know i don't know if it's a moment where he goes hey i'm no guilt free i don't think he thought that way at all but then his activities the provision of educational opportunities right the first few life if you put it to be educated and but also the general philanthropy is so fun for people for potus wasn't it was old. invented the concept of of joint giving give us an example you know i mean you know the saying. give a man a fish and you feed him for the day teach a man to fish and you've fed him for life and this was carnegie's philosophy in terms of giving i mean he thought why should i give you a dollar if you're going to spend it and then that's going to be the end of it he would say i'll build you a library but i want the city to fill it with books i won them over

there to pay for the funding of the staff and then. i want to group to get together and give ten percent every year to the maintenance of this library they weren't expensive by any means i think the libraries cost anywhere from ten to twenty thousand dollars back then and he would hire the architect and buy the land but he wanted a group of people together to help maintain it because he said i didn't i didn't want this to be a waste of time after i'm gone and this philanthropist was based on a little secret is false and he was rich of them well bill gates is not yeah he at one point not right away but when he sold his carnegie steel corporation to j.p. morgan and then j.p. morgan you know he went and bought the other steel mills all the way up the river and that became us steel which is still around today for

a little bit of time anyway carnegie. nearly four hundred million dollars and at that time one dollar was worth anywhere between twenty five and thirty dollars of our money today so imagine that multiplied and i've heard bill gates say that what carnegie had back then was more than he could ever imagine and he must have some pretty big imaginations you know i mean and for him to realize that the buying power that he had the guys who built this place were making a dollar a day. so i imagine so people like gates of course will be influenced but part of the ethos of of many of the the great new companies that take companies been dictated by the complete philosophy that's right and you know one of my favorite aspects of this is that he is a boy who got involved with the high tech of the day the telegraph you know it came

out in strips and someone would write it out and it was run boy and he was the boy and he ran everywhere and then at one point he thought why do i have to wait for that old guy to write it out and he memorized the sound and he was one of the first to do that and the vice president of the railroad company sold this and thought that kid is smart i wanted with me and i want him to teach all these boys how to do this because the civil war was going to break. and telegraph was the main means of communication and what was interesting to me i got to actual children i saw that in one of the notes at the library of congress it is papers because his beginnings. up the ladder began with sound and he would ultimately fund this building which is known for its sound so. attitudes forged in scotland but basically made in the united states would not occur in terms of the opportunity he was able to create for themselves i mean you could see it in the beginnings there is father

was a bit of a rabble rouser you know during the beginnings of the industrial revolution and he was working with the bobbins and they were going to mechanized and he thought there's no future here for me and. there was a relative of his mother's living in pittsburgh and as so many people did my parents included after the war came to the america you know and. they just happened to take the long way took ten weeks when you think about it it's extraordinary they went across the atlantic. up the hudson river across the erie canal across the great lakes and then down into pittsburgh it's extraordinary when you think about that voyage you know and then what did he do just like his father he started in the bobbin business oil greasy hands he was making a dollar twenty a week you know and then never stopped moving little andy

was. ahead of the class everywhere he kept working and working and when he started with the telegraph there was no looking back in fact one of his. supervisors said give me one of your quarters i'll invest it for you and carnegie rights to his mother i made two cents off the sweat of somebody else's brow and he never looked back.

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i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten times tempting each day. eighty five percent of the global wealth to the rich the weak six percent markets thirty percent. some with four hundred to five hundred trade per circuit. and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building two point one billion dollars a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only number you need to remember it's what one does that shows you can afford to miss the one and only. welcome back to the whole new york where i'm speaking to me. started walking. through some of the four became a stock of us in eighty six and over the last fifty years he has collected over

three hundred five pieces of metal to believe about committee hall from all over the world. some of his prize exhibits well recognized. as charlie chaplin for benefit during the war and then look at this. shot since maria collison is carnegie hall debut in one thousand fifty nine you see that she likes being here look at that it's remarkable the photographer told me they were eight of the singers on stage but he couldn't take his eyes off her so he saw it. and look at this this is the way the hall looked when it opened in one thousand nine hundred one but we had front steps. and the street was only one or two lanes wide tell me about the figure and i'm not sure you know photography took five minutes you had to stand absolutely still if somebody was walking by it was captured they could go so i could girls sometimes they see that in old photography

when sir arthur conan doyle was here for example the had that looks like a ghost look to me that does this is a poster from opening night all right president is no galatians of the music we did i do carnac you see it's not carnegie hall and there's tchaikovsky at the top and andrews down here police made obviously from the design of this hole the holes that this was going to show compass the weight range of ops i mean when you look inside it seats almost three thousand people and then there are two other halls he was thinking of something more than a choir you know and this is this room that we're in from eight hundred ninety eight but listen you've collected a fit about a member a billion over the years yes we have when we started thirty two years ago it's hard to believe but there was almost nothing here there were there were some items but thanks to the generosity of thousands of people across the country when they heard

we were looking for material they sent it in and people saved programs or posters or ticket stubs or photographs much because now we have about three hundred thousand plea hundred thousand yeah i had to people levels of the public get to see that the well we are actually. digitizing a lot of it and soon it will be available to the public but for the moment we have a museum here on site which is open every day to the public it's free of charge and we have about three hundred pieces on display there everything from toscanini's baton. to benny goodman clarinet when he was in visiting lists great hole holes really i mean he was as you said built somebody up which put those who didn't understand you up was going to expire and we do seem strange but was he thinking

this will bring a coat show this will bring the great stars to the masses or was he thinking religiously lakotah last but two of the originals will be what was in these mindfully when he built this the. theater little. and they made the announcement that there was going to be this cornerstone laying ceremony and carnegie was going to be here with his relatively new wife younger you know and all of musical new york was coming up here and the public came up here first to see where are we and what is he going to do and then he starts off by giving this grand speech and at one point is it is probable that this hall will intertwine itself with the history of our country and people are thinking what and it was remarkable because he could see what was happening in new york he saw that the city was rapidly advancing up fifth avenue and while there were some people saying why

has he put that building all the way up there there were others calling their real estate agents saying see if you can find me a piece of land if they're real fast and most he saw that this was one of the last treats before central park cuts the city and people were saying who's going to go all the way up there you know i mean on the east side at this time i think the population was five thousand on the on the west side it was even last because it's hard to imagine now but there were rocks between us and the west side these large problem in tori's of manhattan surest. fitly adly states the office of the day stuff to become big news pretty early on his vision was supposed coming to pass well i think it started a little bit i mean we started with a bang really because we invited peter tchaikovsky who was the greatest living

composer of the day he actually came in conducted six of his different works publicising that was generated by this was brilliant because people came there was a five day music festival and it was sold out we had to thompson housed in dynamo's installed in the basement and on nights when we didn't have concerts we were selling power we were selling electrical power to the city of new york just to help finance the building you know but then it started and it started with the polish pianist by the name of potter esky first prime minister of poland and it was actually our location that made us. started our magic it's really very interesting story and a great. manual for example the republic commented on the acoustics very especially by a little. of legendary in terms of the putative yes in fact i kosky it's

really interesting in a little notebook he wrote he bought it was it says notes for new york number one is it safe to drink the water in america number two do they have russian cigarettes there and there are three czech acoustics the new music hall and then he circles them with an exclamation point there good so you don't want history with this this whole how did you stop i started as an archer here in one nine hundred seventy four i wanted to be a conductor and while auditioning. to any music school that would take me. somebody who said oh you have to be an archer at carnegie hall because there are. there are so many different types of concerts you're going to learn a lot of music very quickly and in fact it was brilliant i became an asher i went up to the balcony my first week i heard ella fitzgerald in the chicago symphony and

they were paying me. and then i became the artist attended backstage where now i had to greet ella fitzgerald that the door bring her to the dressing room together to the stage and i did that for about three thousand concerts and give it could be a memory of one of these great stars who you could take you to the door. the first time that i saw frank sinatra it was a humbling experience because he was. it was a wonderful thing to see him interacting with members of the band and how he knew every note of every work he made it seem so easy you know it was the same way with leonard bernstein didn't look at any of the music and you thought well they must be faking some of it but it was because it was so much a part of their blood and so much a part of their being they just made it look easy you know it was it was

a brilliant university for me if i had only known that i was going to become carnegie hall his first historian i would have taken notes back there. because nick make a pretty good boot. it but the last part of his life was basically dedicated to whittle peace that's right and when he went back to school and to the counted but to school effectively run what was left of the empire then for him from skibo castle which in the highlands of scotland i'm a. model. and it won't be an age of this city i'm late to some cheap. i'll go with amazing swimming pools and they've started to invade effectively the clothing heads of europe to conferences and ski people if he was a visiting them to tell the for goodness sake get over these grand alliances because it's going to end and capacity that's right in fact he brilliantly started off you know and they called in the press they called it dinosaur diplomacy because

in one thousand and four they discovered at the time in wyoming the world's largest dinosaur and carnegie funded it in fact they named it after him it's still called the duplicate is carnegie today people couldn't believe that it was true that something could be so big and he started to me plaster casts of it and he had one put in steeple and when these crowned heads of europe came they thought what is that so i'll give you one. so he put one in vienna and he put another and belong out and he put another in madrid and in berlin and in scotland thinking that in a very subtle way could start unifying people through education the meetings that he had here for peace and how to have arbitration don't have guns

talk it through you know and then he understood as you see from these diaries a war a great war would not be a lately campaign like prussian flange what it would be a huge industrial conflict rather. american civil war which obviously had lived through as a as a young man. and he had that understanding which very very few of those of the code paid so the leaders of the the governments in europe understood his insight must come from the understanding of the great poet of industry and not complain when he realized he wouldn't be able to give it all the way and he founded carnegie corporation and put his money there preamble to this thing was it's established for the advancement but the assimilation of knowledge and understanding it was externally frustrating for him because he could see it and there were others

he wasn't alone but he was one of the most vocal imagine giving ten million dollars to build the peace palace in the hague of all places. in the in the netherlands hoping this is where they can settle their differences you know and he built another one in washington and. it must have been just heart wrenching when he realized. it's not going to work so that the great wall did break the day he foresaw of the calamity and affectively the the end to the extent of european. supremacy of the world that we stun challen supremacy and commit return most. effectively broke right he almost becomes a wreck loose in a household shadow broke in lennox massachusetts if you stand up there it burned to the ground in one thousand nine hundred fifty seven mrs carnegie sold it to the

jesuits who turned it into a school and then mysteriously burned to the ground but if you stand there you can almost see the scottish highlands in the berkshires he realised this was going to be this last view of him before he died and his own assessment of office office life. and the understanding of the only sort of last messages he it reviewed the the extraordinarily contribution he made or was it that he died. obviously had heart broken about the war but was he dissatisfied with before he managed to do i'm not sure anyone of that caliber is ever satisfied. it's always more can do better always i used to see that backstage all the time can't imagine being any less. that's been fabulous thank you q but before you go i have studied comedian and whiskey but i'm sure he would have approved of the quick in terms of the concept of

the loving cup so you know that i do in the clip. from the scottish highlands and i fact we just katherine just brought me back in that case of good whiskey and though you have to thank you so much this is perfect. it's wonderful thank you very much thank you for the thank you pleasure. to meet you hold to the streets of new york next week in the second part of the show. look at the show. and i think it's a model of the sky falling in. the making. to. make sure you join us then it's like with.

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