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the possessed because the mainstream media corporate mainstream media are possessed because all of their narratives or virtually all of their narratives of the main stories that we've been covering on this program are in tatters falling apart i've never seen this kind of environment mark and we have a in example here with moon of alabama which will discuss it i think at length because i think it's a marvelous piece of investigative thoughtful intellectual journalism mark yeah. i think or really end of phase that i like to call shooting the messenger because the narratives of the western governments in both the the so-called scriptural incident at solace very in the u.k. and the incident in duma in syria which led to illegal u.s. strikes u.s. u.k. and french strikes on syria both involve alleged use of chemical weapons with no
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evidence and the narratives in both cases are collapsing and this has led to me if you point that out yes if you point that out this is because the narratives are collapsing the the the watchdogs of the regime and the media that does not griffey for them the establishment mainstream media has gone all out on the ad homonym on the alternative media anyone on social media with any type of influence or following who is daring to challenge their narrative of what has happened here and they are getting. they're getting personal and it coincides across a whole host of people. across of media but also with facebook and twitter selective a lot of music criticism well really quite sloppy in the not based in fact oh it's incompetence it's incompetence i think we should remember is a little bit for all of us on. which particular narrative cycle webster well in do
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the russian drones have fallen one of the boys who was on the v. dual tour now you know. well i mean he was on the video that was shown on the wall break people sprinkling each other with a war cry and chemical attack chemical attack well the boy didn't know anything about the chemical attack he was dragged by other people who promised him food was dragged into the course but though he was sprinkled with water he's quite alive you know despite the fact that you know the western media can say that these are going to die crisis actor that with a fairly we have been we have been told by the british now that there are there is evidence that russia was involved but it was a taken group and all its members are back in russia i think the next time they do something with the right elements of the should evacuate it all of the actress
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right to france or to the u.k. were international media is not be able it's remarkable it's remarkable the amount of information that's been revealed about the the true for spawning the white helmets it's common knowledge if you make any kind of effort but they continue to support them in the mainstream media as a powerful visual it's a ditch it's just a propaganda is that the point is that in all of these stories all the witnesses are somehow inaccessible there in russia or there somewhere else you know or they can't be shown because they're in danger like you are going to scream she is. the truth but is dangerous absence a case if this is what is how would a script has survived if she's in good health why doesn't she give a press conference why don't they show her ok maybe not to the russian diplomats ok to western journalists know they keep her in safe what cation the talk of world their take. a group of russians who are somehow we want you to know she's being
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held against her will we can't even know that let me let me give a piece here from this moon of alabama this is an article as april twenty first of this year the media war on truth will reporting in illegitimate opinions tukey mentary really interesting piece here those working in the media are up in arms over alleged fake news and they lament the loss of paying readership but they have only themselves to blame they are the biggest creators of fake news and providers of government fall suit their attacks on critical readers in commentators are despicable and further in the article. the vicious campaign against any dissent dissenting with reporter opinion is a sorry attempt to go back to in time and to again gain the monopoly on truth and this is we've mentioned this many times on this give you an example just this week a b.b.c. journalist in malta call steve rosenberg he interviewed someone. who claims that he
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made no virtual probably that that same portion that almost killed the screen falls in london but says in that interview you will never prove it well that's useful for the b.b.c. that you will never prove it but somehow you spread it all with his hand when he made it and he just clicked it quickly poured it into some kind of this it i think it was it was basically. hydrochloric acid and all impurity magically went away so the good thing is that i think it's headed would too but not again i'm going to do it all crazy or with democrats you have even different laws of cain mistry them into toilet terry and societyis like the russian one under democracy chemistry doesn't walk because you get infested with a deadly nerve agent but you don't die and that don't work because you know a bomber said that russian economy is. tempus actually of the russian agriculture
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and food industry ended up but since last don't walk in you know tonight it better and society of course will all should believe obama ok you know that this passage that i read that i think you know they they really want to regain their position in the ministry of truth here and it is very much under assault that was what i find remarkable is that we're in this media environment now because the main news providers the bushman it's doesn't make a whole lot of sense or they have to backtrack they have to amend because they're doing their job they're not doing their job and then they want things to go away in a number of cases them a little longer you look the harder you look the official line is severely in doubt they're not doing their jobs because they are not being critical of their own power centers right which leads people to look and people to rise up on their own and start doing citizen journalism basically and then rising up into the alternative
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media because there are no critical versus this is why so many people want to appear for instance on russian media or alternative media centers because that's the only place where they can get a platform to voice dissent from the narrative that this media is not only doing stenography for but is doing active defense for and i think we need to name out some of the people that were attacked in the last week or two because the list is quite extensive and it's so extensive and so across the board that i think that there obviously is some. pattern shall we say here something that looks like it's certainly not a coincidence. and eugene per year in the united states is a book black rights activists who have been attacked by n.p.r. of all people among others who are appearing on russian media so the nuts and bartlett the u.k. academics tim heyward and piers robinson. there was times of london and london
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headline right on the front page against them big letters but a decision whether you're may get mark old jewelry or some other monarch. apologists for a saudi working in our universities and then the subtitle top academics claim chemical attacks were fakes right so that makes them saw apologists. a sarah. a a a a prominent syrian lebanese. social media. reactiveness the syrian girl partisan merriam sues lee a syrian australian citizen and even shelling. by going going by the twitter handle at five six seven eight but when the reaction to these here is that what i saw the attacks on the individuals that you just mentioned right there they're not fact base is not i think they make
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a lot of their your ad hominum and competent craig mary. peter ford peter hitchens valentina liz let's see it's the east ukrainian planet the actors are things the interesting thing is is that i'd be willing to say with great certainty that. the only thing that all of those people have in common it is not russia no it is the truth it's that it is they look the the the so much the number of hers that write for the powers that be so you know i think it's very interesting he took it all of the interviews with those people right there and they don't have a lot of volunteers for the board jimmy door jimmy door jimmy door of the very popular. show progressive show on you tube this is what c.n.n. money exclusive you tube ran ads from hundreds of brands. on extremist channels which they identified as jimmy. sure as you can see ads also
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appeared on the jimmy door show tonight and some are left to i you know i don't know that. they saddles conspiracy theories he is a hardcore progressive here let me give you the last word in the quote i think that we should do well not only on the victims but also on the people who do it you know the story with that and all that you just mentioned she's a black progressive activist who was on b b c or on the water or mainstream media channels talking about marginalization of people talking about police brutality only crime was that she twice a period. she spoke to the radio sputnik us in washington d.c. and that was enough of our own feeling of n.p.r. in atlanta. its author joining call from just went after her for speaking to russians basically even though she was you know i speak to rangers all the time a story that she was not interviewed by
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a russian person and he never mentioned you know what did he call the people who had interviewed her before and he asked them would you have the same attitude to her if you knew that she spoke to you the hold up that we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on media madness stay with r.t. .
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most definitely wasn't a victim. of any kind of racial or ethnic from the russian side because it would destroy russian kind of the beauty as far as exchanges are concerned and they are dependent on it because they certainly have to get their people back if they get into trouble. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing media madness. i don't know if to laugh or to take pity but we now we have the d.n.c. . the democratic national national committee they're suing russia suing leaks and trump and and trump and yes really to me you know. when i first came
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across that story obviously the first thing come to mind is that they still want to relive the gate the election of two thousand and sixteen i guess we're going to get that for this entire run up to the midterm elections at the end of the year. but at the same time i after my second thought that came into my mind was well why didn't the d.n.c. let the f.b.i. examine their servers. and that has never been resolved here is this just another fishing expedition suing the the russian government i don't think that's going to be even remotely possible in this case of course this this. i don't think that you are taking this seriously enough because the democratic national committee is suing for damages because as they create rightly point out incredible damage was done to them allegedly you know that we don't know that there's no evidence of russia and wiki leaks according to them colu did to expose e-mail e-mail that
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expose the d.n.c. rigged their own primary against bernie sanders in collusion with the hillary clinton campaign which had effectively financially taken over the d.n.c. at the time as reported by the d.n.c. the chair that took over after they were the previous one was forced to resign in disgrace right this is what they're suing russia and wiki leaks over what it's really interesting to me you know you have you have for them for the left of this this narrative of the week you leaks russia there's been never any evidence of that whatsoever julian assange everything that he's done with the leaks in the last decade kills me very clearly that he would never get in bed with any government and all and there's never is never been any evidence that he ever has that's why he was so popular and so that as so many of voluntary is working for him doze and hundreds in different countries but you know this story when i heard that they were suing
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the russian government and trump you know sometimes when i see people soon everyone i sometimes think why don't you have parents where you have been such a media you know this is the same kind of story brewing you send us of all people you know it was he is victory that was stolen from him and we know it from these weekly leaks revelations which were all true you know they were not falsified they were not in a new. a questioned by by the d.n.c. their own true love bernie sanders kept kept accusing russia for interfering in the us election during all of the last year well isn't there to defeat isn't a capitulation instead of fighting for the victory that was stolen from you you praise the people who stole stole this victory from you i'm sorry he reminded me of all their russian communist leader you know you got enough in one thousand nine hundred six who already has lost yeltsin simply because he was afraid to we you
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know because at that time the orthodox people like. there were not nice freedom fighters you know from their comfortable hold and they were seen as the people who could kill him if he really want you know that's why he didn't want to win he didn't win and he never questioned his defeat this is the same story with the interesting thing is with this lawsuit it is a direct frontal assault on freedom of expression and this is what you know this is the most important takeaway because we get down again we keep leaks is a media outlet it generates it takes itself is it generating news here this is been contested here if this is the case and you can equate. we as a some kind of non-state actor then that is then we have the slip police and slippery slope of attacking speech because when we look at. we had the
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major. that we had about the iraq war i mean the new york times the guardian the mom everybody picked it up ok so are they going to be just as equally guilty if because of their association or some kind of working relationship they had with we keep it here or first of all this lawsuit is ridiculous if course right first of all it's premised on the idea that there is some kind of trump. brusha conclusion that's at least part of it something that the mueller investigation hasn't turned up a single piece of evidence for so you know that takes us right there it's about the midterm elections it's all about generating headlines and create continuing this this broke in the old mccarthyite narrative they think that's going to win them votes come november i think it's going to ruin them but. it's this does have wider implications not just for freedom of speech and the press but also for whistleblowers as well there is
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a whole history of of everything from the pentagon papers to the panama capers to the printing of donald trump's parts of his financial record to all kinds of media outlets exist out good part of what they do and has always been is putting information from governments from company as a public figure that they had seen through you know not completely legal means right whistleblowers are aren't considered legal god knows obama went after enough of them more than any other u.s. but all the u.s. other presidents combined during his administration but they've always done this and if you are now suddenly making this illegal then every media organization in the world that does or has ever published information that they you know acquired by whistle blowing or are such method but that's what they want but they want to be the ministry of truth to really want to talk a little bit about north korea here. is peace breaking out on the korean peninsula
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it's really quite amazing how the pace of this right now on the concert let's look at the first part of the year in the kind of labels and exchanges we had with the with with trump in the in the korean leader here now seems to be going into a new direction that can the u.s. will u.s. accept a peace process that the korean people want well. i mean just blue coat usually at the mall and west is green to any miss and if gentlemen really think that he can be the first one that can be kind of converted from an enemy to present he should look at the experience of war but also start that he is peace can pain when that is needed why it is a little one you clearly absolutely. false in the same category here you have to just let me tell you look how the number of the west's ennius multiplied in the last five years alone russia and china have been called threats for
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a long time ok but now the e.u. is calling the polish government threat that the government a threat and well you know then you have got them and you have to turkey its greatest adversary. if came to an already thinks that he can he can be an exception that he can make peace with the west you know he is simply making the same mistake that gorbachev i think it's really interesting i think the north koreans learned a lot from the iranians because the iranians never wanted to nuclear weapons so they started a program so they could give it away for sanctions relief is really smart by the way. for security but it seems to me the koreans are doing exactly the same thing they create they create a perceived threat and they say ok we'll take it off the table we want security guarantees but they did the real trick in all of this is going to be is how the north and south the. negotiate their terms and conditions for
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a peace because the two countries are still technically at war right now. kim joan was in beijing recently i think that he was telling the the chinese what they're going to do and the deal is going back to what the russians the chinese already proposed at the end of last year and this is going to try to. get on the treadmill i don't care i don't care. the mainstream media has to say if there can be a process it should be. applauded well first of all it's not only north korea and south korea but of course the us that's also at war with north korea there's only an armistice settling there i'm not so sure that iran created this story about you know the perception that they had a nuclear weapon a little gremlin i believe it was only through that they were going through the motions yes i don't deny that that was a figure entirely but it by there wasn't there is there's ample evidence that they have never actually had that is there something goal what what what i think the
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trump is trying to take credit for some breakthrough here right first of all. the any credit deserved goes to russia and china for that quite negotiations and the new south korean leader who is willing to actually have conversations with his north korean counterpart and that's the real hope for negotiations trumps blood bluff and bluster that that's everything that's happened despite that degree second of all north the supposed success of north korea suddenly that collaring that they're done testing they're no longer going to test nuclear weapons or ballistic missiles that's not because of of trumps irate tweets and threats to wipe out if you read it that it's due to the fact that they cheat what they wanted they have a nuclear deterrent the u.s. can't take that away from them without a war that would end up destroying hundreds of thousands of the millions the south koreans the north koreans want to denuclearize and insulin. well that the
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that's going to be very difficult for the pilot and just if i were it if i were them looking at libya or iraq iraq that's why i want to get a job very good material to get what i think of the china and russia being going tours i think is important in this case but he wouldn't go if there was any outside influence on him going on which we share pushed him to stop nuclear. yes that was from china and probably from russia it was not. you know pressure from the united states from japan and i think it was all because you know the regimes like that they can resist. pressure for decades as we know well the problem is that i mean if you look at it from the point of view of russia and the look at the russian media and if it were not whitewashing the north korean regime. it is to tell you terry and the one that we nor you know that we have no need for many years but the
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problem is that there are many kinds of predators you know there were non super editors there are communist prejudice and there are all true liberal predators who are the most dangerous now it's like you know in. a war you know. who are the most dangerous. the mammals you know the newest ones so with the west you have the memo that was the most dangerous well most dangerous dangerous being sent liberals so they're the worst there was because the used to have a good reputation including in russia because they use the more kind of sophisticated very gentle but they will run out of time for a broadcast version here many thanks and i guess he must go this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember rules.
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will willingly accepted the real skill of being shot wounded taken prisoner but not signed up to be. friggin poisoned by our own people i've seen stuff that was nuclear biological and chemical products the said do not on the truck tires all types of styrofoam polystyrene these batteries trucks there was a complete denial i think at all levels of government that there was any connection between berm pits and what these brave soldiers were suffering from to compensate every soldier marine airman and sailor that was on the ground that are complaining about illnesses from exposure from the burn pits would read literally send a v.a.
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broke and they don't want to pay it so the waiting in decades a lot of those soldiers will die in time and they will have to pay and. get the middle finger to be used to model is. delayed and i hope you don't. loose the sone of luxury and fame but also an alarming number of people living in the streets. a simple fact in l.a. he's there's just not enough shelter even if people on the streets right now decided to come in there's nowhere to come in it's been a struggle. this man found his own response of the problem and constructed dozens of tiny homes for people in need of shelter when you have nothing in order to go. you know having something like this may as well be a castle but do the authorities accept such solution. me house on
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a city parking space is not a solution your car to have someone wanted to ring the site otherwise it will be a free for all and is there a better alternative to end the homelessness crisis. you never know what's around the corner you never know what's in the pub you can walk into excitement it's that not knowing that's where the adrenalin much comes from. and you can easily move on to the machine and the extremes will supply. the violence is a part and it's almost a schizophrenia. where you can do all these things and behave badly.
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there's going to be a public hospital for that along with everything plus both also focus on the last one. on this man and for him to roll down for less than he thought. i would roll to where now if i figure out i really did a poll that i want to get. meaning in reason is that at least if you don't on the involves it's constantly evolving and. it's. ok.
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for headline stories this hour claims of a chemical attack in the syrian city of doom earlier this month or called into question with a number of journalists who visited this site struggling to find any evidence to back the reports. the people there telling us there. this whole story from april was st. the syria conflict seems to have forged the new friendship between the presidents of france. over a mutual dislike conflict stricken country's leader. a local cameraman claims it is really soldiers shot dead and all the armed power. gal's a border last thing he has been.

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