us which governs garza refusing youngsters to carry out acts of terror israel's defense ministers also lend his support to the i.d.f. stressing that protesters should not be approaching that border as well to give it to the lady a journalist from the newspaper though he's got other ideas he says there's simply no need for soldiers to be using live ammunition on the border. gaza is the biggest cage and after eleven years living in this cave there is this need to raise your voice and what other ways do they have to raise their voice nobody cares about gaza neither the knowing israel nobody cares about the think that two million people almost two million people are living in in a sea gene in the biggest gerry no. and that's their way to protest i mean. most of them don't get closer than three hundred meters to the fans they don't endanger the lives of anybody by the end of the day it's all about the means and the other means to stop demonstrators that's the core of the issue stop

using life it will nation against people that's the basis of any international thanks for watching who want to keep across the breaking news you simply read take care in toronto on our site r.t. dot com and i'm kevin zero in saying thanks for watching. in july twenty seventh and on and i'll set up a freelance journalist working with. militant shelling in syria. on a sacrifice he has established a solid memorial they will recognize war reporters who often risk for the sake of the truth and through that. you can submit your published works in

a video well written form to a. dot com into now. hello and welcome to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle are the mainstream media playing out roles found in the great russian novel the possessed voicing dissent against media orthodoxies has never been more dangerous and is peace breaking out on the korean peninsula. across talking media madness i'm joined by my guest mark sloboda he's an international affairs and security analyst and we have dimitri he is

a political analyst with spook nick international origin microsoft rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated i'm calling this program the possessed because the mainstream media corporate mainstream media are possessed because all of their narratives or virtually all of their narratives of the main stories that we've been covering on this program are in tatters falling apart i've never seen this kind of environment mark and we have an example here with moon of alabama which will discuss it i think at length because i think it's a marvelous piece of investigative thoughtful intellectual journalism mark yeah. i think we're really in a phase that i like to call shooting the messenger because the narratives of the western governments in both the the so-called scruple incident at salisbury in the u.k. and the incident in duma in syria which led to illegal u.s.

strikes u.s. u.k. and french strikes on syria both involve alleged use of chemical weapons with no evidence and the narratives in both cases are collapsing and this has led to me if you point that out yes if you point that out this is because the narratives are. lapsing the the the watchdogs of the regime it's the media that does stenography for them the establishment mainstream media has gone all out on ad hominem on the alternative media anyone on social media with any type of influence or following who is daring to challenge their narrative of what has happened here and they are getting the deeper they're getting personal and it is coincides across a whole host of people. across the media but also with facebook and twitter selected a lot of it is

a criticism really quite sloppy is not based in fact oh it's incompetence it's incompetence i think we should let you leverage a little bit for our viewers on which particular narrative cycle webster well in the russian drone this fall and one of the boys who was on the b. dual tour that you know. well i mean he was on the video that was shown on the wall like people sprinkling each other with a war cry and chemical attack chemical attack well the boy didn't know anything about the chemical attack he was dragged by other people who promised him food was dragged into the course but though he will sprinkle with water he's quite alive you know despite the fact that you know the western media can say that these critical going to die crisis actor able to write that with the screen paula fairly would have been would have been told by the british now that there are there is evidence that russia was involved but it was in a taken group and all its members are back and russian i think the next time they

do something with the right moment they should evacuate it all of us right to france or to the u.k. where international media is going to be able it's remote island it's remarkable the amount of information that has been revealed about the true. for spawn in the white home it's common knowledge if you make any kind of effort but they continue to support them in the mainstream media as a powerful visit it's just a propaganda is that what is that in all of these stories all the witnesses are somehow inaccessible they're in russia while they're somewhere else you know or they can't be shown because they're in danger like. she is hell no no you know the truth but it is dangerous absence of case ok if this is what i would ask has survived if she is in good health why doesn't she give a press conference why don't they sure her ok maybe not of the russian diplomats ok

the western journalists know they keep her in safe what cation they talk about they have taken a group of russians who are somehow you know we want to know if she's being held against her will we can't even know that let me let me give a piece here from this moon of alabama this is an article as april twenty first of this year the media war on truth will reporting and illegitimate opinions tucky mentary really interesting piece here those working in the media are up in arms over alleged fake news and they lament the loss of paying readership but they have only themselves to blame they are the biggest creators of fake news and providers of government fall suit their attacks on critical readers and commentators are despicable and further in the article. the vicious campaign against any dissent dissenting with reporter opinion is a sorry attempt to go back to in time and to again gain the monopoly on truth and this is we've mentioned this many times on this level let me give you an example

just this week a b.b.c. journalist in moscow steve rosenberg he interviewed someone. who claims that he may know of talk probably that that same portion that almost killed the screen falls in london but. so give says in that interview you will never prove it well that's useful for the b.b.c. that you'll never prove it but somehow you spread it all over his hand when he made it and he just clicked it quickly poured it into some kind of this it i think it was it was basically sent hydrochloric acid and all impurity magically went away so the good thing is that i think it's hated wood too but you know what again it is you can all go to sea or with democrats you have even different laws of came history and then into territory and societyis like the russian one under democracy chemistry doesn't war because you get infested with

a deadly nerve agent but you don't die and that's don't work because you know a bomber said the driver an economy is in purpose actually of the russian agriculture and food industry added up but since mass don't walk in tonight it better and society or course will all should believe obama ok you know that this passage that i read that i think you know the the really want to regain their position in the ministry of truth here and it is very much under assault that we would i find remarkable is that we are in this media environment now because the main news provider is the bushman it's just doesn't make a whole lot of sense or they have to backtrack they have to ammend because they're doing their job they're not doing their job and then they want things to go away in a number of cases them a little longer you look the harder you look the official line is severely in doubt they're not doing their jobs because they are not being critical of their own power centers right which leads people to look and people to rise up on their own and

start doing citizen journalism basically and then rising up into the alternative media because there are no critical vs this is why so many people want to appear for instance on russian media or alternative media centers because that's the only . where they can get a platform to voice dissent from the narrative that this media is not only doing the na graphy for but is doing an act of defense for and i think we need to name out some of the people that were attacked in the last week or two because the list is quite extensive and it's so extensive and so across the board that i think that they're obviously is saw a. pattern shall we say here something that looks like it's certainly not a coincidence. and eugene per year in the united states is about black rights activists who have been attacked by n.p.r. of all people among others who are appearing on russian media so the nesa be really

bartlet the u.k. academics tim hayward and piers robinson there was times of london and london headline right on the front page against them big letters but a decision whether you're make it mark old jewelry or some other monarch. apologists for us saw it working in our universities then the subtitle top academics claim chemical attacks were fakes right so that makes them saw apologists. a sarah. a a a a prominent syrian the lebanese. social media. reactiveness the syrian girl parties and merriam souse li a syrian australian citizen and even shelling. by going going by the twitter handle at five six seven eight but with the reaction to these here is

that what i saw the attacks on the individuals that you just mentioned right there they're not facts to base is not afraid to make a lot of their your ad hominum ending it all but it. peter forward peter hitchens valentina liz let's see it's. that the east ukrainian planet we entered fits the interesting thing is is that i'd be willing to say with great certainty that. the only thing that all of those people have in common it is not russia now it is the truth it's that it is they look the the the. that right for the powers that be so you know i think it's very interesting he took all of the views of those people right there and they don't have a lot of volunteers for the board jimmy door jimmy door jimmy door of of the very popular. show progressive show on youtube this is what c.n.n. money exclusive youtube ran ads from hundreds of brands.

on extremist channels which they identified as jimmy door as you can see with ads also appeared on the jimmy door show to know that some are left you do i do know i don't know that. they saddles conspiracies that he is a hardcore progressive here so we're going to give you the last word in that if you go over i think the wish of the well not on the on the big things about also on the people who do it you know the story with that and on that you just mentioned she's a black progressive activist who was on b.b.c. or on the water of mainstream media channels talking about munching away zation of people talking about police brutality her only crime was that she twice a beard on sputnik you know she spoke to the radio sputnik us in washington d.c. and that was enough i don't feel in n.p.r. in atlanta. its author joining kaufman just went after her for speaking to

russians basically even though she was you know i speak to writers all the time showing that she was not interviewed by russian grocer and he never mentioned you know what did he called the people who had interviewed her before and he asked them would you have the same. if you knew that she spoke to sputnik people hold up that way to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the imagine stage with r.t. . global blogs selling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the chicken hawks forcing you to fight the battles but still. to stop spreading tell you that every gossip and public but most important news today. off the bat doesn't

tell you on the cool enough to buy their products. all the hawks that we along the gulf will watch. seemed wrong but. just don't hold. me. to shape out these days to come out ahead and in the game equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. welcome back to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter all about remind you we're discussing media madness.

i don't know if to laugh or to take pity but we now we have the d.n.c. . the democratic national national committee they're suing russia suing weiqi leaks and you know relatively you know. when i first came across that story obviously the first thing come to mind is that they still want to relive again the election of two thousand and sixteen i guess we're going to get that for this entire run up to the midterm elections at the end of the year. but at the same time i after my second thought they came into my mind was well why didn't the d.n.c. let the f.b.i. examine their servers. and that is never paid resolved here is this just another fishing expedition suing the russian government i don't think that's going to be even remotely possible in this case of course this this. i don't think that

you are taking this seriously enough because the democratic national committee is suing for damages because they create rightly point out incredible damage was done to them allegedly you know that we don't know that the evidence of no evidence of russia and wiki leaks according to them colu to to expose e-mail e-mail that exposes the d.n.c. rigged their own primary against bernie sanders in collusion with the hillary clinton campaign which had effectively financially taken over the d.n.c. at the time as reported by the d.n.c. the chair that took over after they were the previous one was forced to resign in disgrace right this is what they're suing russia and wiki leaks over but it's really interesting to me you know you have you have from them from the left to this this narrative of the week you leaks russia there's been never any evidence of that whatsoever julian assange everything that he's done with leaks in the last decade

kills me very clearly that he would never get in bed with any government and all there's never is never been any evidence that he ever has that's why he was so popular and so that as so many of voluntary is walking putting doe's and hundreds in different countries but you know this story when i heard that they were suing the russian government and you know sometimes when i see people soon everyone i sometimes think why don't you have parents why you would be in such a media you know this is the same kind of story brewing you send us of all people you know it was he is victory that was stolen from him and we know that from these weekly leaks revelations which were all true you know they were not falsified they were not in a new. a questioned by by the d.n.c. their own true but only sound us kept kept accusing russia for interfering in the us election during all of the last year well isn't that a defeat isn't it

a capitulation instead of fighting for the victory that was stolen from you you praise the people who stole this week i'm sorry he reminded me of all their russian equipment you know you got enough in one thousand nine hundred six who already is the last yeltsin simply because he was afraid to we you know because at that time the orthodox people like. there were not nice freedom fighters now you know from their comfortable holding where they were seen as to people who could kill him if you really want you know that's why he didn't want to when he didn't win and he never questioned his defeat this is the same story with the interesting thing is with this lawsuit it is a direct frontal assault on freedom of expression and this is what you know this is the most important take away because we get down again we keep leaks is a media outlet it generates it takes itself is it generating news here this is been

contested here if this is the case and you can equate. we can weeks as a some kind of non-state actor then that is then we have the slip police slippery slope of attacking speech because when we look at. we had the major. that we had about the iraq war i mean the new york times the guardian the moment everybody picked it up ok so are they going to be just as equally guilty because of their association or some kind of working relationship they had with we keep it here or first of all this lawsuit is ridiculous if course right first of all it's premised on the idea that there is some kind of trump. brusha conclusion that's at least part of it something that the mueller investigation hasn't turned up a single piece of evidence for so you know that takes us right there it's about the midterm elections it's all about generating headlines and create continuing this

this broke in the old mccarthy narrative they think that's going to win them votes come november i think it's going to ruin them but. it's this does have wider implications not just for freedom of speech and the press but also for whistleblowers as well there is a whole history of of everything from the pentagon papers to the panama capers to the printing of donald trump's parts of his financial record to all kinds of media outlets exist out good part of what they do and has always been is putting information from governments from companies are looking where that they have seen through you know not completely legal means right whistleblowers are aren't considered legal god knows obama went after enough of them more than any other u.s. but all the u.s. other presidents combined during his administration but they've always done this and if you are now suddenly making this illegal then every media organization in

the world that does or has ever published information that they you know acquired by whistle blowing or are such method but that's what they want but they want to be the ministry of truth to really want to talk a little bit about north korea here. is peace breaking out on the korean peninsula it's really quite amazing how the pace of this right now on the concert let's look at the first part of the year in the kind of labels and exchanges we had with the with with trump in the in the korean leader here now seems to be going into a new direction that can the u.s. will u.s. accept a peace process that the korean people want well. i mean just look at the modern west is great in any miss and if you want to really think that he can be the first one that can be kind of converted from an enemy to present

he should look at the experience of war but also start that he is peace can pain within that is maybe why it is a little one you clearly like to see feed falls in the same category here. just let me tell you a local how the number of the west's ennius multiplied in the last five years alone russia and china have been called threats for a long time ok but now the e.u. is calling the polish government a threat they can occasionally go in and thrash and well you know then you have got them and you have to turkey its greatest adversaries or it's oh i forgot to say that if teams are going to really thinks that he can he can be an exception that he can make peace with the west you know he simply making the same mistake that gorbachev i think it's really interesting i think the north koreans learned a lot from the iranians because the iranians never wanted to nuclear weapons so they started a program so they could give it away for sanctions relief is really smart by the

way. for security but it seems to me the koreans are doing exactly the same thing they create they create a perceived threat and they say ok we'll take it off the table we want security guarantees but they didn't the real trick in all of this is going to be is how the north and south. negotiate their terms and conditions for a peace because the two countries are still technically at war right now. kim jong un was in beijing recently i think that he was telling the the chinese what they're going to do and the deal is going back to what the russians the chinese already proposed at the end of last year and this is going to try to. get on the treadmill i don't care i don't care. mainstream media has to say if there can be a process it should be should be applauded. for it's not only north korea and south korea but of course the us that's also at war with north korea there's only an armistice settling there i'm not so sure that iran created this story about you

know the perception that they had a nuclear weapon to look at no i didn't i was going to that they were going through the motions yes i don't deny that it was a figure entirely but it by there wasn't there is there's ample evidence that they have never actually had that is there something goal what what what i think the trump is trying to take credit for some breakthrough here right first of all. the any credit deserved goes to russia and china for that quite negotiations and the new south korean leader who is willing to actually have conversations with his north korean counterpart and that's the real hope for negotiations trumps blood bluff and bluster that that's everything that's happened despite that degree second of all north the supposed success of north korea suddenly the collaring that they're done testing they're no longer going to test nuclear weapons or ballistic missiles that's not because of of trumps irate tweets and threats to wipe out if

you look at it it's due to the fact that they cheat what they wanted they have a nuclear deterrent the u.s. can't take that away from them without a war that would end up destroying hundreds of thousands of importantly south korea the north koreans want to denuclearize an insulin. well that the well that's going to be very difficult for the pilot and just if i were it if i were them looking at libya iraq iraq why don't you get a job very seriously you wouldn't get what i think of the china and russia being going tours i think is important in this case but he wouldn't go if there was any outside influence on kim going on which we share pushed him to still you couldn't. yes that was from china and probably from russia it was not. you know pressure from the united states from japan and i think you're right it was all because you know the regimes make that they can resist. pressure as we know well the problem is that

i mean if you look at it from the point of view of russia and the look at the russian media speaking if it were not white washing the north korean regime. it is to tell you terry and call me mr hume that we nor you know that we have known him for many years but the problem is that there are many kinds of predators you know there were not super editors there are communist predators and there are ultra liberal predators who are the most dangerous now it's like you know in in in in there anymore war you know i'm phoebe years thereafter i was who are the most dangerous just now the mammals you know the newest ones so with the west you have the mammal reptiles the most dangerous well most dangerous dangerous beings and liberals are excellent in that they're the worst there was because the used to have a good reputation including in russia because of the use the more kind of sophisticated predatory energy journal that will run out of time for our broadcast

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