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lives so it's a huge deal now there are huge military asymmetries on the peninsula which are going to be astronomically difficult to resolve so we may get a start in these in these discussions when the two korean leaders may meet they may in a few days they may even to clear and then to yes a korean war at least hostilities but it's going to take a lot of tough slogging to work through some of these details and to particularly to put in place the security guarantees which i think the north koreans are going to insist on to go forward daniel let me go to you i mean security guarantees that's what it's always been about and i'm glad that john mentioned the freeze for freeze because that's been around for a while nobody in the mainstream media says that where that idea comes from but i can tell you if you go to last year during the security council you could see the russian and chinese ambassador at length go through that. process here daniel before we go to the break go ahead in new york well i just want to remind your
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viewers that that in two thousand and two george w. bush virtually declared war on north korea which he somehow blamed for nine eleven but north korea was was one of the three countries comprising the so-called axis of evil and the u.s. invaded one of those countries has you know it's been sort of rattling at the other ever since and so north korea had to have grave concerns regarding its own security so kim jong un. has only protection lay in a nuclear nuclear weapon which he. only has let me jump in here hold that thought gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on the korean peninsula stay with our team.
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join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see that. palestine is getting international recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos m.m. bill fails to commission to do if you like committee this is my compass and he is going up to the study hall meeting to. know john without a doubt. the only palestinians is gets the most help from his jerusalem counterparts i don't think there's some of those who in the world under the vision didn't know only could do this. and though it is all off if not as to how to display any of the muscle that you had i not going to compete in the doesn't seem to do more almost lost their companies often.
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welcome back to cross like we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the korean peninsula and the possibility of peace. ok let's go back to daniel in new york you were taking us down history lane you were you were just talking about the axis of evil to pick up from there go ahead daniel yeah so in two thousand and two with this axis of evil speech george w. bush essentially declared war on north korea and that's that speech has never been rescinded anyway this one nope no apology issued no you know no taking back etc so
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so so kim jong un figured quite logically that it's only protection lay and having a nuclear weapon capable of striking the united states mainland which he apparently has achieved so that is his that is his is great you know is great chess pieces ace in the hole and i don't think i want to live here but i really doubt that he will agree to for denuclearization unless the us needs is willing to engage equally and equally grand gesture which trump might be willing to do but i can guarantee you the rest of the foreign policy establishment or. as you call them will not they will raise holy hell and they will essentially block from from doing that. in washington because you reflect upon them because that's been my inkling for a moment long you know i'm like john said i'm perfectly willing to give donald trump
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credit for this if this is just kicked it off ok fine ok but there are forces and you see it all the time in the corporate media mimics the their corporate owners ok they're not keen on seeing peace bring. particularly if it means negotiations as equal that's not in their d.n.a. they don't operate that way go ahead absolutely absolutely correct first let me back up a little bit out here and say that yes i totally agree with john that a huge amount of creditors also due to donald trump because let us remember before you talked about fire and fury and destroying north korea he also probably went up further than any u.s. president had had talked about and talked about particular some assurances that he doesn't see the collapse of the north korean regime he doesn't seek regime change he doesn't want to have an invasion all of thirty eight over the thirty eighth parallel etc etc so he has tried he had made
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a lot of assurances also in his early months and that hasn't had that has he has not got adequate credit for that so yes i mean in other ways also donald trump deserves credit and that's that's that's that's perfectly fine you know the one grilli good thing going for donald trump is that the u.s. system provides huge in on foreign policy huge amount of power not just to the presidency but to the president and so he can really override his staff because frankly this is all going to come down to donald trump and making that deal with game jungle on which the foreign policy establishment has not been willing to contemplate and part of the reason it's not been willing to contemplate it's easy to say that all the came regime for ever and the kims never never. on their from their part always cheating etc etc which is which is not entirely true it is partly true not entirely true but just too many forces i think for
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people in washington are rested in a cold war mindset confrontational attitude to north east asian geopolitics with the thirty eighth parallel being that tripwire and it's not easy. for many off them to come to terms with that you know what. could be just insulated from that whole geopolitical environment let's ask john because john that was his line of business for a while i mean what are the forces moving against this here and beyond because it's donald trump's idea but i mean the you know talks through the bureaucratic inertia that you know that would be against this go ahead well i think i would disagree i think that currently the top leadership of the u.s. defense department is not against what trump is trying to do and we just saw that in syria we saw the d.o.d. weighed in and so we had symbolic strikes against syria rather than the more
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far reaching operation that some were advocating so. i think that we have to be a little bit careful here now i would take this back even a little bit before the axis of evil speech people forget that nuclear weapons were first deployed on the korean peninsula during the eisenhower administration and we had at one time nine hundred fifty nuclear tactical nuclear weapons in korea this is and this is now a de quite well we had seven thousand and western europe. anyway. president bush the elder who's now ill in the hospital was the was the one who decided to put an end to this this kind of madness and so we began withdrawing them but you know you don't have to explain the nuclear issue in terms of the evil
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nature of the north korean regime although perhaps there's some of that that that can be part of the explanation it's really an action reaction sequence and we took the initial action and the north koreans then responded to it so i think the same dynamic can be used in the current circumstances and terms of confidence building measures and hopefully we can walk this back i agree completely that having. a progressive president and seoul is a huge help and i think china and the russia can also help but. i think it's going to be really difficult to unravel this not. which we've tied ourselves up in the peninsula in these various asymmetries ok daniel i think this kind of leads to where i want to go in the program i mean i am
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sure that there is there's a sense that if if the u.s. in there's the perception of the u.s. backing down the perception of the u.s. . involved in a diplomatic process that would be deemed as a piecemeal here that would have a ricochet effect through all of the other in tangling alliances the u.s. has in the pacific is this part of the thinking there because it is john said you know to untie this or not here there is a huge ripple effect through the entire region go ahead daniel. totally true totally true and will be a huge ripple effect in washington as well where all these countries have their have their interests they have their they have their you know their little alliances japan most particularly russia and china as well so if you know. the north may be playing a kind of vietnamese game where they're trying to you know seek a closer alliance with the south in order to protect themselves against china so
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therefore that's certainly possible in china could be getting nervous as well and china has friends in washington and. i have to say the japanese wouldn't be very happy to have that unified strong powerful korean peninsula so you know that they wouldn't there to hold defense thinking would have to be rethought keep going daniel. and japan has tons of friends in washington also so so i think that we're going to see a huge ripple effect from the north northeastern northeast asia on to washington. pile on and you know and trump is on one hand trump has got great power as a u.s. president but on this hand politically he's very. yes he is really on the ropes it's a ferocious problem. so i don't know i doubt very much it will be able to withstand these forces and i think that he will i'm pretty sure he is incapable of engaging in the same kind of grand gesture that kim jong un is willing to engage and you
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know let me go back to sort of i mean you know he won the presidency he sighs it's all the time you know maybe it'll work this time i don't know i mean don't you think also it's just a mindset i mean north korea is this cartoonish evil character the axis of evil i mean it's so convenient and there's so many people that have made entire careers out of demonizing and i'm not i'm not siding with the north koreans or its leadership i don't do that kind of thing i i'm basically a realist when it comes to foreign policy so but i mean don't you think that's part of the problem here is he is changing minds you know taking a fresh look and there is this really an amazing opportunity that we may never see again go ahead. oh absolutely absolutely this is as good an opportunity source the end of the korean war in. as since the end of the korean war to have a peace regime on the peninsula as well as since the denuclearization declaration
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and agreements of the early one nine hundred ninety s. to do during the nuclearization let me go out a little bit on a limb here and make two points you know with regard to do you need a clear resolution most people and i totally agree understand there the views that this is going to be very difficult close to impossible he's not going to give it up i'm one of those feel very tiny minority but who believes that this is very doable and i can really give it up i can jump i've done is not in the same position as saddam hussein. but you had to go hide it that's why you developed it in the first place to trade it away for security guarantees it seems logical to me exactly. exactly let me explain that point also you know what is a nuclear weapon the focus of a nuclear weapon is to call unacceptable damage to the adversary he already can do unacceptable damage to their adversary by crushing seoul with this conventional guns and therefore a nuclear weapon over and above that is something that he can leverage and he can bargain and which is exactly what he is doing and therefore i would say that this
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is doable this is a great opportunity but what we have to do also is this cannot be a process which gets out over many years in a decade and it's action for action with five hundred steps which then breaks down after twenty steps this has to be a big grand bargain a kind in a truncated where and then to define time period and i think it's doable let me go to look at let me go to john john you're on the negotiating team for the united states what would you tell your boss dollars trying to do in forty seconds go ahead hey i what i would tell him to do is just have good vibes in the in the meeting apparently that was the case when pompei went there i think what. different this time around is that the negotiations are not being run through a bureaucratic process and a lot of people are criticizing trump on this score it's it's a crisis situation and people forget what we were talking about last fall we're
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talking about the imminent prospect of war on the peninsula so i think things are moving in a good direction i am concerned about the asymmetries. also we're going to have one possible drop out in this process prime minister abbay is in deep political trouble i'm not sure if he's going to be able to survive or not but yeah i think we we just have to hope that the intercooler and summit goes well ok and in a way moon isn't playing these vans gentlemen we have run out of time and very rarely do we end on a positive note many thanks to my guests in washington and in new york and thanks to our viewers for watching us here on c.n.n. and remember.
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this is r.t. headlining this hour saudi arabia wants qatar that its regime faces collapse unless it starts backing u.s. operations in syria. also this out handouts for extremists it's revealed that an alleged bodyguard of a son of bin ladin's been claiming benefits in germany for more than two decades. but defense ministry displays fragments of missiles it says the syrian government intercepted during recent western strikes on the country u.s. a claim that all of its missiles hit their target. at a football fan is fighting for his life after being attacked by a tally and supporters ahead of a match in northern england to have been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder
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. over me in a team here at r.t. h.q. in moscow wednesday evening at six here in the russian capital welcome to news this hour first off new this hour saudi arabia's foreign minister is warning cata that it faces a rapid collapse of its regime if it doesn't support the united states military in syria could start should finance the u.s. military presence in syria and send its own military forces there before the u.s. president american protection for qatar if the u.s. is to withdraw its protection represented by its military base in qatar then the regime there will fall within less than a week. but if we can expand on that now with our correspondent kelly. what more do we know. well this claim from the saudi foreign minister comes while donald trump is still making
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a decision it appears about whether or not to withdraw u.s. forces from syria now we've heard donald trump talking about it and different terms from very soon to the most recently said a relatively soon but it's not exactly clear however trump did say that if the usa were to remain in saudi arabia sorry if the usa were to remain in syria that saudi arabia should pay for it this is donald trump. our primary mission in terms of that was getting grid of isis we've almost completed that and will be making a decision very quickly in coup warden issue with others in the area as to what we'll do saudi arabia. is very interested no decision and i said well who do you want to say maybe you can have to pay now it seems based on these comments we've now heard the saudi foreign minister warning their regional rival qatar to share in some of the burden and the cost of military operations in syria or else well some
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pretty harsh consequences we heard what he said earlier now it's also important to note that on tuesday when donald trump met with french president mccraw on he announced that the usa had approached a number of other countries about sharing the costs of syria this is trump at the white house. now it should also be noted that that you know doha and riyadh they're u.s. allies but they're in a proxy conflict with each other and we recently saw last year they were they were in the middle of a diplomatic crisis several countries cut off ties with our and then we heard u.s. president donald trump then accuse qatar of funding terrorism something doha says is just not accurate they say they are not supporting terrorism now we recall that donald trump stated that his intention was to create a kind of nato that would unify the middle east but it seems there's quite
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a bit of division at this point in the middle east with these kind of statements coming out of saudi arabia in regards to could tar. and pretty intense wording whichever way you look at it we'll keep an eye on the fallout for the finale vote kind of open in new york thanks very much for that. and the french president emanuel mccrone is right now addressing the u.s. congress comes at the end of a visit and see him hold crunch talks with donald trump on a range of hot button issues from syria through to the iran nuclear deal but it's the latest blossoming personal relationship that's really counted people's imaginations. so it was a great honor to take part these are personal and these veterans are they call witness trees that that lived through the war see around you have continued to grow .
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it's emerged that a man who was once allegedly a sama bin laden's bodyguards been living in germany for more than twenty he is with the details his pretty boy. people have forgotten the atrocities that osama bin laden's terrorist group. committed and inspired the mavs to minded the nine eleven attacks and even though some of them laden was killed in two thousand and eleven he was just the figurehead of the group and some of its members are still out there one of them it turns out has been living in germany for over twenty years now he's been getting welfare payments to boot he's been named in the media as
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a he's a to museum national and he's believed to have joined al qaeda in afghanistan back in two thousand and illegibly worked as one of osama bin laden's bodyguards because he was already a german resident by that point he dented germany three years prior a need on a student visa when he came back he filed an asylum request that was denied in two thousand and six and a court in germany described him as an acute and considerable danger to public security but a higher court subsequently overrode the deportation order and they cited concerns that this man sami a would be subjected to torture back home in tunisia now sami a was never actually charged with terrorist activities in germany but all sources deem him a security risk and he has to report to a police station on a daily basis here and this whole story has been unearthed again because it's
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caught the attention of the alternative for germany party they're the ones that put in a request with the regional authorities to find out the status of this man and how much money he's getting in benefits payments and it's triggered harsh criticism from both the f.d.a. party but also from senior voices within angela merkel's own c.d.u. party german asylum laws being shamelessly exploited here do we have to give a tax money because we cannot i have not. understanding of the school. and now this situation where suspected terrorists used human rights laws to avoid deportation is by no means new here in the u.k. there have been similar cases immigration judges ruled against a reason may was home secretary at the time and they found in favor of six men. who had been fighting deportation for ten years the home office had said that they had links to al qaida were a national security risk to the u.k.
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but judges agreed that the men were at risk of torture if they went back home to algeria and last year a government report a home office report here revealed that over forty foreign born terrorists are devoid did deportation from the u.k. off to using specifically human rights law to argue that it would be dangerous to return to their home countries it's precisely because of these types of cases that the reason may now as prime minister has taken a much tougher stance she's threatening to throw out human rights laws in order to make it easier to deport suspected terrorists. of our political scientists bonaparte's all told us he believes germany's asylum policies need a total rethink. these shortcomings of the german legal system and the fact that we are not ready to handle these complicated issues of immigration of asylum seekers we have to deal with this as we deal with all other persons of this crime the
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thorny issue. states like tunisia simply accept the return of their citizens to the country learn do not make any mission there would not torture there when going big this is an open diplomatic problem we have a new with discussion with our losses is adequate and is well fitted for him since these problems and without any doubt that in the course of these legislative term we will further clarification of. liverpool football supporters in a critical condition right now after clashes with the tongue and found of a game in the english city on tuesday two roma supporters are under arrest on suspicion of attempted murder or got more details earlier from artie's alexy irish . in twenty eight hundred seventy final the champions league we're not talking about the brilliance of mohammad salo roberto filomena or even a late comeback from roma we're talking about football violence again and that's
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after a set up for almost supporters attacked liverpool supporters outside of at a field the stadium in liverpool allegedly carrying baton belts and even sledgehammers and now one fifty three year old irish man a fan of liverpool instead of celebrating a beautiful five to when he was in hospital fighting for his life in a critical condition the merseyside police in liverpool investigating this as an attempted murder and two men from rome twenty five and twenty six years of age have been arrested as for reaction obviously two clubs have issued statements with. websites condemning this violence in the strongest terms possible your way for saying that it was deeply shocked by the violence outside of the stadium in liverpool which is bizarre because they should have just looked into the past and saw how six fans of liverpool were stabbed by roma fans in two thousand and one there have been other cases of violence perpetrated by this particular club fans and now i'm going to rome next week for the away leg does this kind of reaction reconcile me by no means and all this happens as we remember fifty days before the
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world cup and every say.

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