the syrian civil war keep showing new players with israeli jets and syrian air space striking government military targets as well as damascus as iranian allies the risk of a serious response from tehran is growing. israel continue gambling with its strikes in the face of possible confrontation in syria is it ready for any possible escalation and can the middle east they get another conflict. their talent general benjamin gan stay twentieth i.d.f. chief of staff welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us a lot's to talk about russia is planning to deliver s three hundred missile defense systems just syria following the u.s. coalition and israeli strikes earlier this month israel has always criticized the prospect of damascus having asked three hundred but as three hundred system are in essence defense weapon why do they make israel so nervous. well definitely

three hundred system is a serious system that covers. space over. and once they're in the end of the syrians and north to the control of russia. is really is oh pretty good move in a remote against russia of course nor even against syria but it's actually. really believed to be. elements of strategic capabilities because in the hands of the wrong people. there might challenge us a little bit but i believe we know how to do everything. for our out of israel's military intelligence. things israeli air force is likely to strike the s three hundred so if those are deployed in syria since they view the missile system as a threat do you think it's a likely scenario. you know i cannot put myself in. the hand heads or in the shoes

as we say or formal acting general of prime minister in the ministry of defense. i'm sure when i'm confident that over strategic leadership is not trying to operate against russia of course only pleads to do all it wants to do is to ensure israel's security and i have full confidence in the discussion and. the way the thing things being done so we'll let the future speak but general i mean the things happen every day unexpected things happen every day so if that was a scenario that happens at a cli would take place with that set moscow in tel aviv on a dangerous path of confrontation is israel ready for that and taken that both have enjoyed really good relations recently. yeah definitely i think the relations between russia and israel are both good definitely important one and i don't see

a collision between israel in russia is such once again sophie israel's interests in the north. of security interests. is. if you wish war you know by default because we want to but because we have to so i'm sure that if there is a way. to bypass the need of confrontation people will definitely like it however we cannot jeopardize our security interests and whatever comes under those whose version comes under this consideration. israel's defense minister liberman said that the israeli retaliation will come and i quote anyone attacks us that the country will strike whatever system it needs to so far it's israel doing the attacking in syria so is it stops doing that and risking

a counter strike should be worried about anything should it. yeah well you see the point is very much everybody is trying to promote stability in the nude in a real russia is trying to promote it is really different to support stability in the moving arena so we have this trend of political stability that everybody respects. but underneath this canopy of stability if you wish we can see the positioning and the potential rise over radical elements capabilities in their hands this is something israel cannot stuck its head in the seven sede stuffy if somebody spitting can do it doesn't mean that it's raining so we have to look into realities eyes if you wish really to operate against what we believe that seriously in danger our security in the region

. and therefore i think that's what minister of defense to be right he said that we really have to operate against whatever we have to operate if you individuals us but. what exactly do you mean by dangerous elements because you've said israel is after stability in the northern area about striking syrian targets or iranian targets in syria doesn't really bring stability at all how does that arc so. who operates form syria or from levanon against israel it's a radical outpost that doesn't just look to stabilize syria but it's like to be capabilities against israel in windows if abilities becomes potentially danger this is something very serious that we have to take in our consideration and i believe that i would leave the ship is doing just that so

since two thousand and twelve israelis believed to launch more than one hundred air strikes on syrian territory aiming at suspected it on the link targets like if that is the reason for israel's opposition to ask for hundreds in syria when they're reinforcing of syrian missile defense shield want to allow israel to do what they did before on a regular basis. you know what i'm sure that there was in the official channels between ministry of defense and prime minister and president putin what i respect very much trying to put the stability on the ground the discussions of being made over there and once again i think we should not ignore the real facts and the surface stability it's on the upper layer underneath there are negative elements being pushed by a lot is the biggest terrorist organization operating from the old an arena it is

being supported by syria it is being supported by the iranians it is being equipped with high technologies between in danger israel security b. cannot ignore the. and therefore we are very clear on what we are definitely clear because what we are doing this is exactly what you are seeing nobody is seeking for syrian society nobody is seeking for syrian territory nobody is seeking for lebanese terrorists you are talking now to the man who was the last one to leave lebanon in two thousand you are talking to the man who ordered to be in the field hospital that already treated more than four thousand syrians in our israeli hospital so israel has nothing against those countries the only thing we care for in this is what we are doing exactly what we are doing we are defending ourselves on the day to day basis and we must be responsible enough strategically speaking

looking into potential future threats for us this is exactly what we'll do and i understand the logic although friends and allies. and definitely i understand the logic behind what you're saying. and i understand your devotion to the cause that you've been citing all your life but as of today has balls and the iranian targets that you call dangerous are fighting the syrian civil war they're not fighting israel. let's not get too naive sophie. in rockets being delivered to the iranians was a higher level of distance with a higher level of accuracy which is a high level of explosions and none of that has been used against israel against syria and i'm glad they didn't use it i'm just building pileups of an issue

it has no other address than future israel started it we cannot ignore that fact and this is exactly what we are doing and i am sure that if you close the camera and speak to whoever you want the official intelligence element in russia will be no other places you will get pretty much descendants or well i'll tell you what everyone else is worried about they ask awaiting strikes against it on in targets in syria are really making people nervous can a direct hit on israel a confrontation break out because of this. i'm just saying i mean there is a solution for that if your own doesn't push in strategic capabilities that we know what of the. target of them that they have seen is different if you runs is not involved in this or if it's the position is for egypt it could be didn't syria if the rule of illusion illegal who operates there would not themselves to israel then

as you know a problem but the reality is that. doing something against it even if you go over to the declaration of the iranians unfortunately they do talk about destroying israel etc etc etc so once we see all that around there's no way we can ignore it or should we ignore it so one day an ominous yadlin and i keep quoting because i just spoke to him recently he thinks that russia could play and mediating role between israel and iran to prevent an all out conflict moscow enjoys a good relationship with both sides while israel accept russia's help in preventing a big conflict. i respect russia's strategic timothy in syria in trying to stabilize the area once again i don't think we should sacrifice future threats for that stability i think it can come together push for stability for human rights ensure everybody's interest make sure that no

negative element let's put it this way is a cause that you know this question being put on the ground i think that might change picture all right general we're going to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking weather tenant general benjamin katz twentieth i.d.f. chief of staff talking about the middle east pressing issue stay with us. for a world cup twenty eight team coverage we've signed one of the greatest goalkeepers of all suck but there was one more question and by the way who's going to be our coach. you guys i know you are nervous he's

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a million pieces and my complicity is going up on sunday all media and you. know john. the only palestinians who gets the most help from its jerusalem counterparts i don't think there's some of those who in the world and the open vision know only could do this. and though it is unfair advantage to have to display any of the muscle that you have i'm going to compete in the customs you know do more commitments last don't piss off. buying. as i go. through the right the big number one was in a country blown away by the huffing and puffing of the big bad feel wolf and i'm thinking you've got countries like india that are like one. household sector has all the gold their government doesn't exactly and then the big deal will often fall

to the people the problem with the government was blown away then you've got the countries like china and russia that it's. twenty four karat gold bullion and the big bad wolf. and it didn't blow the else away. they were back was lieutenant general benjamin gots the twenty is idea of chief of staff discussing israel's view on the middle or an affair so general a confrontation with iran means a confrontation with hezbollah and the last time it happened it didn't go very smoothly for a slap is another costly war like that really worth the risk for the country.

well definitely an escalation in the northern area by and large and eleven and specifically will not be a hike in the park as we say but and i hate to see it happening overseas for me is really perspective but seriously speaking since i understand that in lebanon. so many houses so many buildings that possess both living room and missile room in the same house i would really recommend lebanon not to let this happen because i think the price of lebanon will end up paying now unfortunately price i must say would be by far. than what we build these very decided we know it's not easy but we are capable of dealing with whatever threat that comes from the iran deal is once again in jeopardy as to trumpet ministration is weighing in near sanction it's in jeopardy because once the trumpet ministration is weighing in new sanctions against

iran by me mate tehran threatens to bigger asli resume their nuclear program if united states scraps the deal i know that israel didn't like the deal says to very beginning but what i'd be happy if the deal collapsed all together. with i think that what you must bear in mind is the goal of the deal is it was was to keep it with the iranians form approaching the ability to create potentially military nuclear capability i think all the discussions of what used to be the or what might be to be grooming for future times we'll have to look at it does it serve. the goal of keeping the ring is from this ability it's something the americans need to put their think about it other people understood already said the supporting to do but this is something that the bush

countries will have to deal with but i mean it's obvious that if the deal collapses tehran will read new iranian enrichment it makes no secret of it it says it will and then israel wells than have to strike an iranian nuclear site how's that good for anyone i mean there will be retaliation strikes on the iranian the americans will stay in the region will be on every thing. is that's why i've said the thing that the mean strategic good of everyone should be keep you around through nuclear capabilities the means could be so it is so different in so many of them the goal should be one keep them from being able to produce military nuclear capabilities and it's not an israeli interest it's a war interest it's the region interest and yes it's an israeli interest as well if you would speak to someone from the arab countries in the gulf area and other places just a few would have who simply the same answer so the deal does precisely that it

keeps. tehran from enriching uranium does that mean that israel is in favor of the deal. the prime minister of israel has said so many times and he's been doing it in his discussion with world leaders with the gaffes that he sees in that can it be improved to make sure that really at the end of the road does iran does not get the future proof. permission to produce this nuclear capability i think. there are a few holes over there and of course all the inspections everything and everything of import so another topic that's been discussed very much lately the crown delegation is prepared by president trump to go to israel to mark the transfer of the embassy to jerusalem saying how his announcement of the transfer really made the palestinian issue heat up do you see this as a maybe a little over the top and

a necessary maybe even a provocative move. well you know i don't look at the provoke at its potential the reason of it of the potential this collision of it definitely jerusalem is the capital of israel you've been in these are so many times you know it yourself. since the days of king david we didn't need to have a president trump is all due respect. saying it but these jews are he's our corporates and it's my opinion that most countries all countries who basically move their. assets into jerusalem just like the case in most of just the case in washington d.c. even though the new york city's dick let's put it in the financial capital of his of the united states you've been to tel aviv televisa definitely a financial capital of the state of israel but the capital of israel is drizzle and that's where all those and this is need to be and sometimes it's up to get there what part of life yeah but i mean so far it's just americans threat carpeting that

you're a salon member say others aren't too prone and too quick to accept that. really i hope and believe that more countries would. see was the palestinian leader just another excuse form of doing it well i tell you how it looks from the outside with his with so many politicians coming over to israel it seems that this is not just about these rallies it's more about the american voters and i mean it's great for trump to protect himself as a friend of israel to his voters at home but should he really be doing it at the expense of israel's security. well once again we believe that jerusalem is our capital for decades hundreds of years thousands of years and you stay saw the future plans israel is very results resilin is not israel is we understand it according to jewish these three and these are the history of our country sometimes

those principle come with a price i don't think it should come as price i think it has to do nothing with the palestinian issue all those places are talking about jerusalem as we know it and the locations are such it has no or really interaction and definitely in the few is the theme of the palestinians idea so seriously we would like to put political side for second that we look at the essence itself i'd see i don't see why should there be any major problems but once again jerusalem is essential for us and we would stand for it. so generally not most of the time i want to talk to these rallies about the palestinian issue they tell me that they palestinians do not want peace that israel is ready for concessions but palestinians aren't and you can't talk to them and then when i talk to the palestinians day say that exactly same thing about israel though you you are obviously

a very patchy arctic man who has served and served his country are you able to take a step back and say this from a distance how unbending both sides are i think i think they can. think that both the palestinians and israelis need. to give up. in the illusionary dreams of getting read on the other we are staying here they're staying here and eventually we have to find ways of living side by side peacefully they already got historical political suggestion by prime minister or by prime minister barak in both cases they rejected them and we faced wave of violence as a ring is a result of it we didn't give up on our security and our existence nor should we do

it in the future but i really hope it's on both sides we would find leaders this would understand that they need to sit with one another nobody's going. in for the over living side by side peacefully resolved is with securing its security and existence and i think that if people have serious enough ways we'll be found do you think it's wise to be so stern on the palestinian issue i tell you i'm asking because this is something that hits me personally me very closely you shoot at people at gaza border and then a man wearing a kippah is attacked in broad daylight in berlin and in france where i grew up and most of my childhood friends friends are friends jewish people and it's getting dangerous for the jews. does and it's so interrelated don't tell me it's not related does being tough on the palestinians in danger the jewish communities in

the europe. well unfortunately we might see a negative linkage between things that happens here and seeing that might happen on the way evil and to sin is in different places in the world just like the examples that you have given and once again. let's be honest enough to say what we're seeing in gaza those are unfortunate events instead of hamas supporting its people and taking its budget and been doing rebuilding them in education system works electricity were ever they use them as human shields in the form of the border trying to penetrate through damage to infrastructure over there this is something that obviously we cannot unfortunately just saying that the greeting is not enough we have to sometimes do things and those unfortunate events we continue to happen as long as hamas doesn't stop them on their side so do you think the current lineup of stayed steady or mediating the conflict working out well i mean the united

states is israel's biggest ally about as a mediator in my not me the bass says the palestinians don't trust the white house do you think a change of format might help move this issue along. the way it's an israeli palestinian challenge it should be in israel for this to me an issue was disappointed decides to give this support and i really think that for the benefit to the future. general thank you very much for this very candid take on the issues that we've discussed were talking to general benjamin the twentieth idea of chief of staff. view on the situation in syria and other pressing issues of the middle east that's

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